>taking roids to escape inceldom as a 24 khhvCan someone please convince me why I shouldn’t do this? I don’t want to waste my youth and been lifting a year natty
>>34948554You will end up looking worse. Shit will age you and bloat you. Also females don't like the whole bodybuilder look they prefer the 1999 era Brad Pitt look.
You should just get on a dating app and talk to girls.
>>34948554Go on /fit/ and see of getting ripped helped any of them escaping inceldom. It didn't, none. And roids are fucking awful for your body. You'll still be a khhv at 25, but you will also have a bunch of new health problems
>>34948554Only if you're after a bf. Women don't like roidpigs.
>>34948554not like its their fault but all of these replies are just misinformed, roids will never make you look worse if you manage side effects properly and are aware of how the gear you are taking is going to affect your body, aging is a given for androgenics, not really an "issue" worth caring about for most people, most causes of gear related bloat will be caused from higher levels of estrogen and is very simple to manage, take an AI or just use boldenone, roids do not just turn you into a world class bodybuilder, you will achieve whatever physique you want a lot easier and become capable of achieving physiques not naturally attainable, roids are not "fucking awful" for your body, like everything in life there are risks and benefits and much more manageable doses and gear to be on, there is a world of difference in someone running a gram of tren and someone sticking to bio identical hormones such as testosterone and growth hormoneTLDR; natty cope, taking roids at a young age and doing it properly is one of the best ways to improve your chances of having a better life
>>34948554>Can someone please convince me why I shouldn’t do this?1) Women absolutely *hate* roided bodies. The roids will not help you get laid. 2) They will fuck up your health, shrink your balls, make you infertile, and eventually make you drop dead from an enlarged heart. 3) In the meantime you'll end up in prison with roid rage.From your perspective, I think (1) is the important one: it simply won't achieve what you think it will.
>>34948667Op hereI know it sounds dumb but I’ve seen a few people on fit post completely different life’s when hopping on, I’m kind of short so my natty peak really isn’t that impressive
>>34948554You should. The long term physiological damage of roiding is nothing compared to the long term psychological damage of being an incel. Trade your body for your mind.
>>34948554no gym for your face broit is all about face and heightroids can change neither (unless you are super fat and use them to drop weight and reveal good bonestructure underneath)
>>34948554>been lifting a year nattygood, keep at itstart cardio if you don't already do (general well being)and something that will make you carry yourself better (sports that increase proprioception: martial arts, gymnastics, climbing, dance, tennis, etc). this will improve your posture and confidence way more than fucking roids
>>34948554>Can someone please convince me why I shouldn’t do this?Because it won't work. You'll still be a khhv, only bigger and now with health problems. You won't have addressed whatever underlying causes made you an incel to begin with (and I can just about promise it isn't because you didn't have enough muscle mass). And if by some miracle you get a girl, there's a non-zero chance your dick won't work in the cruelest irony of all.>I don’t want to waste my youthToo late from the sounds of it.>and been lifting a year nattyOh wow. A whole year. Do you think that's a long time or something? Plus you probably have no idea what you're doing. What's your routine/programming like? Do you lift with any intensity whatsoever? How about your diet?>>34948628Bingo. /fit/ is one of the incel captials of 4chan, even worse than here lol.>>34948667>taking roids at a young age and doing it properly is one of the best ways to improve your chances of having a better lifeNow this is cope. Also do you really think OP has any idea what you're talking about and is the type to manage his sides correctly?
>>34948554Roidtranny physique is disgusting to everyone except to gymcells.
>lifting a year I bet you probably aren't even trying. Jeopardizing your health simply because you're too lazy to put in the work is pathetic honestly. All my mates that got on looked great for six months, then returned to just how they looked before. I bet you'll be just like then.
A year is fucking nothing Also >>34949051
>>34948554Because it won't work lol. That's not super impressive to women.
>>34948554You're not gonna be lean and muscular, you'll just get bloated
>>34948554Gym genuinely does nothing for your dating life outside of maybe giving you confidence.If you're so fat that it'd help, just diet.Plenty of gymcell friends, one took roids, still a sperg, still fosters shit habits that keep him from finding anyone, but now he's angrier and harder to get along with.Take roids if you have male dysphoria maybe but don't think it'll help with dating.
>Women hate ultra shredded roid monkey builds and prefer a more athletic/lean look Based women.
I will never understand why you retards ask these questions on /adv/ and not on /fit/.They are the same people as you, just with more experience in these fields. Half of /fraud/ is or was in the same situation as you. Ask them.
>>34952958>I will never understand why you retards ask these questions on /adv/ and not on /fit/.In fairness, there is a lot of crossposting between /adv/ and /fit/. My answer isn't going to be any different depending on which board OP asks me. I'll call him a retard there, and I'll call him a retard here.
>>34953027>I'll call him a retard there, and I'll call him a retard here.Based.
>replying to yourself Kek
Ask /fraud/ dumbass
>>34952958>ask /fraud/Bold of you to assume he'd get an answer there. They'll just tell him to fuck off and read something else.All they ever do is recycle meme characters from 2015
>>34948606Don't do this it will just discourage you. Every fucking time I try this I'm completely burned out for 6 months to two years and my life has gone by and wasted. Just sit around for years there's no fucking point to anything.
I'm in the gay community and there is a lot of unmentioned roid use. I can't speak to what a woman will find attractive, but I can say that roids tends to require a very, very dedicated level of knowledge and discipline to do correctly without damaging your health. I have noticed that roids speed up the process but also seem to speed up facial aging--guys who go on them jump from looking young to 5-10 years older in just a year or two. Personally I worked out really hard for 2 years and didn't think the results were worth the effort (not worth the increased attention coming from people not interested in serious relationships). But I also cared 0% about strength so idk, maybe it will improve your confidence or some shit. Just made it worse to lift through my depression/burnout, desu.
>>34948554You don't really need roids to lift and look good. Just be lean as hell and you'll look ripped even within just 4 or so months of lifting.
>>34948554All of the people here saying that women don't like "roided bodies" are absolutely full of shit. Now it might just be younger women but I've been around enough muscular people to know that anyone huffing the "women don't like muscles" cope is delusional and I've gotten plenty of compliments from women myself because I've been working out for years. Pretty much any Hollywood actor known for being in shape is roiding these daysIf you want actual reasons not to>accelerates balding/hair loss if you're inclined to it>can cause increase in acne, again if you're inclined to it>can get expensive if you want to take more than just tren + test, but even that will set you back a few hundred euro/dollars for a 12 week cycle>destroys your body's natural test levels, you'll shrink whenever you're off cycle>you can get comfortably big enough for the majority of normalfags with just a few years in the gym>still a lot of stigma, will have to hide your steroid use from any gfs you end up gettingUltimately it's up to you, but I wouldn't treat it as a "getting out of khv jail free" card. If you're genuinely just trying to date, you'd get far more use out of trying to socialise with women and date than you will by just roidmaxxing and hitting the gym 4-5 times a week
>>34948554Inceldom is downstream of mental illness. I know this sounds like a meme, but mentally stable and well-adjusted uggos can get laid.
>>34948741nah yea the downsides are basically that, emotional instability, probably going to age you like shit potential health risksbut if you are very muscular the upside is literally just:girls will like you morewhich is a crazy trade off if you think about itlose like 25-50% of your life for sex
>>34958375>All of the people here saying that women don't like "roided bodies" are absolutely full of shitYes and no. I actually lift (I'm >>34949008and >>34953027 ) and yeah I always cringe when I read these posts about how "women don't like muscles". That's cope and they know it. Women love muscles (on a guy that's actually cool and good looking mind you, but we'll get to that). But they don't love the kind of muscles that you actually NEED roids for. Women didn't swoon over Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler. Actors, yeah sure. Brad Pitt in Troy, the Marvel guys, etc, but these are not physiques that you should NEED (key word) roids to achieve. Those guys definitely used them, because they were on a tight filming schedule and there were millions of dollars at stake and they probably didn't know what they were doing. None of that applies to OP and all these other gymcels except the last one.Even Zyzz in OP pic (not right before the end, when he suddenly got twice that size) is achievable on paper if1. you have a good genetic base2. you're patient3. you actually work hard at itClearly none of that applies to OP, granted, but does that mean roids are suddenly ok for him to use to close the gap? Of course not.>you'd get far more use out of trying to socialise with women and date than you will by just roidmaxxing and hitting the gym 4-5 times a weekThis I agree 100% with and what it really all comes down to anyway. OP is worrying about the wrong things.