>>34964070
I'm going to need more context because this sounds like a minor issue.

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>>34964075
>She broke her nose once because she was carrying something heavy and didn't want to ask anyone in the house (husband and 3 sons) for help.
>She has hurt herself by accident multiple times this way
>She has chronic back and neck pain from this
>She only eats sweets and vomits up any actual real food we get her to eat
>She smokes a fuck ton

Her entire personality is just self induced suffering in hopes of us being loyal to her and not stepping out of her wishes, this dumb fucking retard

>>34964070
Novel idea:
>"I fucking hate spending time with you"
Then just don't do it anymore. Find something else to fill your time. Explore other opportunities. Make a new friend. Go for a walk. Literally ANYTHING else.

>>34964096
I mean hurting yourself on accident seems pretty normal.
You can't really blame chronic back or neck pain since that is pretty normal for people that age.
And being a smoker has nothing to do with it.
Overall this seems more like her age causing her body to degrade rather than a self sacrificing personality.

You’re being an obnoxious asshole to your poor mother. Parents should start being able to hit their children again because it’s fucked that some niggers feel no shame in yelling at their mothers and get away with it.

>>34964680
from what op is describing it sounds like his mother is causing her own trouble so she can play the martyr about it.

>She broke her nose once because she was carrying something heavy and didn't want to ask anyone in the house (husband and 3 sons) for help.
>She has hurt herself by accident multiple times this way
>She has chronic back and neck pain from this
>Her entire personality is just self induced suffering in hopes of us being loyal to her and not stepping out of her wishes

that's called vulnerable narcissism and it comes across as a codependent methods of control if not enmeshment. it's a socially appropriate way for women, especially mothers, to gain attention and sympathy for themselves from their self-induced suffering and guilt everyone else about it. many different cultures claim the stereotype of the long-suffering overbearing mother as unique to theirs.

>"hey Anon, ... No, I don't want to eat the meat on my food. Will you please eat it for me?
>She only eats sweets and vomits up any actual real food we get her to eat
>She smokes a fuck ton

this sounds like a clear restrictive eating disorder, possibly bulimia or arfid. in any case it's disordered eating and smoking was often used by women to suppress appetite so they could lose weight.

op is coming across as an emotionally unregulated cunt for referring to her as a "dumb fucking retard" and "screaming" at her over this, but i understand the underlying frustration. this is a method of control and defending her as self-sacrificing and him as ungrateful over her own neuroses she is forcing everyone else to play along with is just playing into her trap. it's likely that he has tried to limit spending time with her. this is the type of person to sabotage any attempts at detachment because she fears being alone. she hates herself. her entire personality is centered around what she does for others and how little she can get by with, not who she is.

everyone here needs individual therapy.

>>34964070
Her parents didn't pay enough attention to her and she's convinced herself it makes her virtuous to continue being "ignored" in favor of others. Has anyone ever tried convincing her to go to therapy?

That's not self sacrifice that's Munchausen syndrome

>>34964070
How many mothers does it take to change a light bulb?

- No, don't bother. I'll just sit here in the dark

>>34964070
Your mother sounds like me though in my case i was figuratively raped to hell and back ever since i was born by everyone who could exploit, I'm pretty sure i have some kind of issue in my innards due to being kicked by an adult when i was a kid, i also got hit on the head alot so that might contribute.
Maybe your mom lived like that and is scared that you guys will be mad at her because that was her life experience
>what a fucking BITCH I HATE HER
You sound like you don't care about her so i don't see the problem on your end desu
>>34964096
>Sweets and smoking
I don't see how any of that is related desu.
But if you care about her just tell her your honest thoughts about her health and how you care, also learn to let her live her life, you can't live her life for her no matter how self destructive she is

>>34964096
None of the things you listed justify thinking she's a bad person or hating her.
>Her entire personality is just self induced suffering in hopes of us being loyal to her and not stepping out of her wishes, this dumb fucking retard
This might, if you gave me actual examples of her manipulation your family in ill will instead of the self-harming bs you listed.
Just keep in mind your parents won't be around forever. Don't act in a way you'll regret. With that said, you have bad parents, I don't blame you for not liking them (no one is indebted to truly bad and selfish parents imo), your posts make it sound like you're way more of an asshole than your mom though.

>>34970300
*if you have bad parents

The issue here is that we have no clue if OP is telling the truth, or his version of "truth". Option A is that she's indeed a narcissist. As another guy pointed out, that's a common manipulation technique. Option B is that the entire family is fucked and this pushed her to go nuts herself. When I was a kid I copied my father's behavior, so we both mistreated my mother.

>>34967514
>i was figuratively raped to hell and back ever since i was born by everyone who could exploit
Did you secretly like it? Do you get wet when you think about it? Do you have any specific memories you can tell me about that were particularly painful?

You love her and you're mad she's self-destructing. But instead of saying this like an adult, you lash out like a child because you're immature.