He will be 30 early next year.He hasn't had a full-time job ever afaik. He refuses to work - Says he can't because he has hypermobility Sits at home on the computer all day for the last 4 yearsDoesn't pay any rent - Is also 1000's in debt to credit cards and family, including me (Which I'll probably never get back)Doesn't clean up, help out, do chores or anythingOur mom is a single parent struggling to make ends meet (She is in her 60's and nearing retirement). Dad is out of the picture and lives in another state. I've told him about this situation countless times, he doesn't care and won't intervene.If my mom mentions any of this to him or tells him needs to get a job, do chores or move out, he screams in her face until she is physically sick and gives up. This can sometimes last weeks at a time.Mom is too kind (stupid) to kick him out because he has nowhere to go and would die on the streets otherwise. He is well aware of this and abuses it.He has no goals for the future, career plan or hopes to move out. He has made it clear his plan is to live off benefits and parasitize off our mom until she's dead.What the fuck can I do?
>>35018776This is really sad, dude. What country are you from? I know a ugy who was like this, his mum kicked him out and put him in a hostel when he was late 20s. It actually worked out best for everyone and he ended up living more independently, but here in UK we have hostels/council property, which Idk if you will have something similar. People on benefits often get first choid if you do.I know this is going to be hard to do, but I think the best thing would be for you and your mum to secretly work together to find somewhere that will take him and then spring it on him. Tell him that you will help him move etc. He's going to be a nasty prick about it anyway, but once he's there the situation will be better for everyone, even he might get some motivation.
>>35018776What's fucked up is you're sounding like the 2nd parent. Read your post back to yourself but pretend it's a dad or mom complaining about their lazy son. You have any idea how dysfunctional it is to parent your own sibling? Yes he is the major source of why it is happening but snap the fuck out of it yourself and leave the bastard to his fate. He will not learn a fucking thing the longer you henpeck and act like his parent you just enable him. Doesn't matter if your output is disciplinary or negative, you're still setting the tone that he is your dependent and you have to boss him around like he is a subservient kid. No with living leeches like this you let them starve. Hunger, pain and destitution will be the teachers that finally show him either he gets up and does something or he perishes.
>>35018807I'm in the US. We've talked about it before. She was going to give him a large sum of money so he could get his own place and pay rent for a few months until he gets on his feet. He refused because he just wants to live the life of a manchild forever. He's had countless ultimatum's over the years but nothing ever happens because she won't kick him out and she won't call the authorities on him to make him go either.>>35018812I wouldn't care but it's my home life. We both have to live with it and endure it because he won't leave or contribute. Things would be fine otherwise. He's driving my mom into an early grave but she's too afraid to do anything about it.
>>35018776I am dealing with the same situation. My brother is 25.
Better to be a Mad Dreamer than a NEET / Wagie.- 24 year old >>35018833>>35018776Tell them I said NEETIE needies like Wagie in a Cagie. Time to grow up and man the fuck up
NEETs = Ants mocked by God. To be stepped on. Runs away from the world. Half the population. Needs 4chan pedo culture and double chins Wagies = Slavery I don’t need to explain this Mad Dreamers = Hardest ending by far. 1 percent of the population. Gets what they want
The Mad Dreamer gets the last laugh
>>35018832>He's driving my mom into an early grave but she's too afraid to do anything about it.With no disrespect to your mom who I will in good faith assume she is a hard working and lovely woman, please stop framing her as a hapless victim in all of this. She is a grown woman who had almost three decades of child raising on him, and you too. Again you're talking about her as though she is your kid who you worry for. Parents parent the kids.. kids should never parent the fucking parent dude. Your mom had a tough time for sure but I'm gonna assume with no dad in the picture things went to shit. And in single mother situations this is one of the most common outcomes, the mothers enable one or more kids into total dependency via emotionally devouring behaviours. Which is entirely involuntary and not something she did on purpose. But when a woman loses a husband, they become very very needy emotionally and they will end up raising kids in a way where the kids don't leave. Because that means momma is alone. So they coddle they enable and what happens is a sibling becomes 'parentized' and acts as the stand in daddy.I bring this shit up because I was in your position. The drama will never end even if he leaves she will tear her hair out over shit he does (or doesn't do) in his new place of living. And you will hear about it and you get involved and your own life takes a backseat to play parent for this shit. What I did was I said fuck that and I left and I got married and had my own kids and my own life. Consider something similar because this shit will ruin you if you let it. Your brother's life is his problem, if he rots that's his choice.
>>35018832Does he get neetbux? Surely he could find a place with that. I know it's hard for her, but she's going to have to do it. The same situation with my mate needed a breaking point unfortunately. This is really shit though, dude. I do have one idea. she could say she was selling the house due to financial deifficults, problem X, etc, and then you and your mum move out to somewhere for a while like two months. Put it up on the market and he will be forced at that point to move out but won't really be able to scream at your mum, and also help himd find somewhere permenant. A couple months later, the money came through from somewhere/the problem fixed itself and then you guys move back in, maybe change that locks. At that point he's out of the place and is living somewhere else permenantly.
The Mad Dreamer = Achilles Wagies = Hector NEETs = Agamemnon
NEETS TIME TO MEET THE CRUEL REALITY AHAHAHAHAHhttps://youtu.be/Mwy7aZHRpno
A real man provides. He’s providing 4chan in real life instead of becoming his best version. Should have lurked moar. Epsteins and Moots delight
I recently lived with my mom for four weeks as a 32 year old with no car job home or gf. Now back on my own and still recovering. A man cannot gain any self-respect from a position of inferior dependency. It saps his energy and makes him loathe his life no matter how comfy it is. I worked on all kinds of projects for my mom, but I hated working because it was utterly fruitless. I could help out for months on end and have absolutely nothing to show for it. But being chickenshit I still submitted to her project demands up until the very last evening. Why? Because I had a fair bit of savings and had bought a flight overseas, so I knew that once I left I would be free to live as I please. Somebody who has no money, no life experience, no prospects, and no ability to handle the discomfort of roughing it out in the world as a brokie would feel completely trapped by circumstances and sapped of his natural powers. It is not natural for a man to live in submission to a woman; it fucking ruins a man's sense of self-worth.
Damn almost like spending 50 years of overcorrecting misandry as turned men off form doing anything. You're equal now, bitch. Pick yourself up by your bootstraps!
>>35019086>spending 50 years of overcorrecting misandryThis is such a retarded lie.
>>35019114Don't care. I have eyes, ears and common sense. I saw where this was going long before you were even conceived, and I was about 90% correct on everything that's happening.
>>35019056This guy gets it.OP is going to have to get FORCED into a difficult situation, that's how men get made after adulthood . And I guarantee you his mom drove his father off too.
It's times like these where a loving sibling is supposed to scare the shit out of his brother. So start now. Send him this:https://youtu.be/OJTbbQN-ATA?is=B-A4y6deWQ6LLgwt
