Why are you pretending to be a woman on 4chan when you should be off dying in a war somewhere, brother?

>>35026009
Unfortunately I am not pretending. It fucking sucks because I keep reading you all say women suck and don't want to commit and won't be loyal and all that but then I have literal obsessive tier love I'm trying to give to someone and can't find someone who is actually prepared to be loved that intensely. I wish I were lying. I've spent too much fucking time crying about not being able to give this love to someone.

I volunteer as tribute

>>35026017
>I've spent too much fucking time crying about not being able to give this love to someone.
Sounds like you need to try loving yourself first.

>>35026017
>Unfortunately I am not pretending.
Sure, pal.
>It fucking sucks because I keep reading you all say women suck
Actually, I’m a feminist.

>>35026029
Lol, I have tried finding a boyfriend on 4chan but it is really hard with the distance. And I don't like having to endlessly talk to people on discord to figure out which are worth knowing. It feels like a dating profile but without the benefit of seeing if I'm attracted to them first. And then there's the problem of people on 4chan being untrustworthy with photos, so I feel anxious about sending them. Eugh.

>>35026031
I do love myself, and part of loving myself is knowing that this obsessive love I contain is worth trying to find the right man to receive it. I have tried dampening my obsession to make men more comfortable and it just ends up painful for me because I feel like the deepest most wonderful part of myself is being stifled to make a guy comfortable rather than being allowed to love him at full volume.

>>35026035
I am not a feminist, but that's mostly because I am 100% behind a woman being supportive of her man. I don't want independence. I'm actively seeking to become dependent in the deepest form I can access while being a seperate human being. Lol

>>35025994
I had a gf like you. The problem was that she would start going insane whenever I left to take care of any business or even take a couple hours to hit the gym. That's what actually destroyed the relationship. If she didn't have that BPD impatience, or if ther was some feminine wisdom to resteain it, I could very well have dealt with the intensity and enjoyed it, and we could've had our happily ever after perhaps

>>35026051
I understand the need to live life outside of being with me. I get that there's stuff that needs to happen without me there. I am remarkably normal about distance if the person maintains a connection. An example is, I can go all day without hearing from them for the majority of the day as long as I get a good morning and a good night text. It's like mental confirmation that I'm still on their mind first thing in the morning and last thing before bed. All I need to know is that I'm a part of their life. And hopefully I can find some way to make their life better for me being in it. I dont have BPD or anything like that thankfully.

There are things that sound great on paper until you're actually there and you start seeing the downsides. Like, owning a Ferrari sounds fantastic on paper, until you realize how much it costs to maintain the car, plus in reality you're a brand ambassador so if you do something they don't like they'll cut you off from replacement parts which makes your car practically unusable.

When a guy agrees to "I want to be adored 24/7" it's more likely that the guy simply doesn't understand what it means until it happens, rather than he understands and accepts the deal. Having a 24/7 gf means 0 privacy, and dudes sometimes just wanna hang out alone.

My advice: try to somehow filter guys that truly understand what being adored 24/7 means and are willing to give up their privacy.

>>35026051
And by the way, I wasn't ever disloyal to her, I just literally needed to get various things done for both our sakes and she would interfere with it because of the bottomless pit in her being. She burnt down her own happiness and broke her heart over nothing.

>>35025994
Funny, with me it was the opposite, the 3 relationships I had didnt give two shits about me and I was the one in your position. Guess its a trauma response thing, instead of searching someone right we search someone to replicate the eay out caregivers treated us, since my caregivers were neglectful I search for that in a partner without noticing

>>35026057
Its true. There is no privacy when I love someone, I want to know everything. That doesn't mean I'm judging them though. My love is very tolerant. But it is a lot, and most people aren't prepared to bear their hearts to one another. I want to, very much so. And you're right they don't get what it means. I am always, always thinking of them. It doesn't stop. Adoring someone is my greatest pleasure. I don't exactly know how to filter men by if they're comfy with my knowing their exact placement of moles on their arm or spending a day filling a sketchbook with artwork that makes me think of them.

>>35026061
You're good. I'm sorry it didn't work out for both of your sakes.

>>35026065
Its true my parents were very lacking in giving me attention. But I don't want attention myself, I want to give attention. All of it that I have to give I want to give to one person.

I kind of wish I'd find a god-complex narcissist, because then at least they would not shame me for thinking they're the most magnificent man ever made. And I dont need them to match my affection. I just need someone to receive it without asking me to stop loving them as deeply as I do.

>>35026056
>"It's like mental confirmation that I'm still on their mind first thing in the morning and last thing before bed."

I'm pretty sure you have a bottomless void too.
Look, the way I see it, what you want is something that exists outside of mundane life, it's a fever dream for two. I hate mundane reality too, maybe more than you do, and want the intense ideal things outside of it. But you can't bog me down with petty frequent demands that prevent me from setting this escape up for us.
We're basically junkies, and you have to allow me to score our next fix, or else we will just burn through a brief honeymoon and then land hard on the very mundane, limited reality that we despise.

Do you understand what I mean? This is like an IQ test for feminine wisdom

>>35026073
I think you might think I want the guy equally obsessed with me. I don't. I literally just want to know that I matter to him, and that he understands that I am devoting my heart to him. That's as simple as good morning and good night in my world. I don't demand anything, really. I just want my love accepted, welcomed even. I am extremely low maintenance. I just want the guy to know that just because I can stand it doesn't mean I'm doing what I'd like to be doing when we get on with ordinary life. That when we are back together I will feel joy and relief and want to give him tremendous affection. But I can stand distance. I would wait years for the right person. I literally have been waiting years for them.

>>35025994
I'm scared of a woman's love because it always seems to come with intense caveats that make it so if I do anything slightly wrong she will turn that "love" into hate. You sound like my dream woman but I just fear there's a catch and a woman like you will become my greatest enemy for a random reason I can't possibly prepare for.

>>35026086
I will tell you my love is likely more rare than whatever you have experienced in that I have never stopped loving any one of the men I have been with. I still remember everything about them. I still want them to be happy. Not a single one is my enemy, and even those who abused (both emotionally and physically) my love by taking advantage of my loyalty and devotion I still cannot hate.

But that is something that isn't necessarily a plus. I mean. My girlfriends dont like that I've taken so much abuse.

>>35026086
You ain't wrong lmao

>>35026079
Ok but you parted with your four previous guys because they weren't doing SOMETHING in response to your obsession. So you do expect SOMETHING, even if it isn't a mirror reflection of what you give. I don't buy that it's a mere "good morning" either, because all 4 previous guys probably acknowledged you on that level.

You say you're undermining and low-maintenance, but I bet this is for from the truth, it's just that your demands are probably not stereotypical.

>>35026100
undemanding and low-maintenance*

>>35026096
>I will tell you my love is likely more rare than whatever you have experienced
Likely is. In truth, I also find it impossible to truly hate anyone because I see all souls, human and animal, as connected to a divine source and that there is some good in everyone. I just am scared, really, really scared.

I honestly am a pretty submissive person and wouldn't mind a woman controlling the relationship. The problem is I know that lack of direciton makes women go insane, so I'm trying to cultivate an artistic dream of my own. I can't recommend you cultivate a dream of your own because you're a woman and I imagine that's difficult, but you need to find a man who has a dream of his own and respects you enough to make you play a vital role in it.

>>35026100
Okay I'll help ya out.
First guy I left because I could tell he was tired of me. He wouldnt kiss me anymore, he wouldnt discuss the future, he wouldn't text me anymore.

Second guy I met online, he LOVED my obsession, until we got together IRL and he was uncomfortable with how much I wanted to look at him, to touch him, to have sex with him. He told me he just can't keep up. He wanted to stop feeling bad that I was so into him and he was unable to reciprocate.

Third guy was my first bf (I'm doing these out of order) and he was so shy he wouldnt hold my hand, or even stand near me. He killed my obsession before it could start because he gave me so little affection in the first place.

Last bf had two businesses and told me he felt terrible for not having time enough for me and encouraged me to find a boyfriend alongside him. I didn't want to be shared.

>>35026106
Thats exactly it. I want to support a mans dream. And I can't lie that I need direction. I hate being "independent".

>>35026125
Just go to the balkans, every other guy here is suitable for you and you can torment each other with passion and endless drama to your heart's content. (not Albania unless you want to feel like an actual hostage/trafficked, though)

>>35026017
>It fucking sucks because I keep reading you all say women suck and don't want to commit and won't be loyal and all that but then I have literal obsessive tier love I'm trying to give to someone and can't find someone who is actually prepared to be loved that intensely.
But you're not loyal, are you? Not remotely. You've dumped four men.

>>35026125
>First guy you left
Makes sense, but did you ever talk to him directly about it?
>Online dude
Sounds like an unusual situation so can't make out of it.
>First bf
Men are really shy and scared of telling their feelings. You have to talk to them about their goals and current plans instead.
>Last bf
Literal cuck with no sense of self worth. Good on you.

>>35026131
Ok but will you actually support it, or derail it to get more affection/energy for yourself?

>>35026132
No I dont like drama. My dream would be to have enough money to not need anything and spend the night in my mans arms.

And NGL I much prefer white men.

>>35026135
See >>35026125

>>35026131
You should make it a priority to understand and know a man's dream before committing all your love to them, because men express themselves through ideals and goals.

I can tell you myself I feel an intense amount of loneliness because nobody else cares about my dream because I'm surrounded by people who don't value art in general. Talking about my feelings and feeling cared for by a woman helps, but the only thing that provides long-term fulfillment is if I found a woman, or even just a friend, that would help me with it, because that's the reason why I want to live instead of rolling into a ball and die.

>>35026140
>And NGL I much prefer white men.
I have news for you about the balkans...also please tell me you're a white woman yourself and not some self-hating brown woman.

>>35026140
SOUTH SLAVS ARE WHITE!!!1

>>35026136
I did. He said "all couples fall out of love. My parents dont love each other anymore". I disagreed with falling out of love being inevitable.

That third listed guy was my first bf in high school, I wasn't really in the position to know what to say to make things better at that point.

>>35026137
My energy comes from my man being fulfilled and happy. Outside of art and creating I dont really need "energy".

>>35026143
Thats true. With the online boyfriend he had no goals so it was hard for me to find a way to be supportive of his nothing in particular outside of being a pro gamer. Which, I did support as a literal support to him in game haha.

>>35026148
Yes I am white.

>>35026150
Suuuuure hahha

>>35026153
>"all couples fall out of love. My parents dont love each other anymore". I disagreed with falling out of love being inevitable.
I agree with both of you in a sense. True love never truly fades, but true love also feels absolutely miserable a lot of the time because the things you have to do if you actually care for someone is painful. It feels like you conflate loving someone with feeling good, and that's a big issue if so.
>>35026159
>hats true. With the online boyfriend he had no goals so it was hard for me to find a way to be supportive of his nothing in particular outside of being a pro gamer.
You know what to do then. Talk to a man about his goals and aspirations in life, then ask how you could help if you're interested. That's a true way into a man's heart.

>>35026140
I'm a brown man so I'm absolutely fucked out of genuine love. Love and self-sacrifice seem somewhat common virtues for white people but almost non-existent everywhere else. It really sucks.

>>35026171
No, I have endured a lot of abuse from one of the aforementioned boyfriends. I felt truly terrible very often. I still loved him, and I still do love him and want the best for him. But no, I don't conflate it with feeling good. Loving someone feels genuinely painful for me in some cases. I still wouldnt give it up.

About the goals thing, I have been trying, two of those bfs were before we were truly adults. The third was goalless. The fourth wouldn't let me help (and was the cuck). So, yet to find a man to truly support.

>>35026177
I am truly sorry for you

>>35026184
You should know what to look for in a man now, wish you the best of luck because a woman like you deserves to be with a man who has a dream and treats you with importance since it seems like you're being honest.

>>35026187
But where do I find him? I have literal thousands of likes on dating apps but all those men seem scared of my devotion. IRL I'm not sure where to go to find someone who wants this.

>>35026194
Find the shy but happy autistic dude in a sports club or something. Martial arts is a good place in general to find guys with conviction. Outside of that I don't really know since I'm just describing where you'd find me.

>>35026201
I do like autists because they're generally more honest. How do I join a martial arts thing without participating in it because I don't really like being grappled or being touched unless welcomed.

>>35026204
A lot of dojos do 2 week trials in. Try to gauge which ones are more serious and which ones are more casual because the former are more likely to find single dudes with goals to chase.
> I don't really like being grappled or being touched unless welcomed.
Talk to the teacher in advance about how you want to spar with other females. Most of them segregate by default anyways.

>>35026207
Alright, I'll give it a try, I don't have very much money so i hope I can find a guy in two weeks lol

>>35026212
Martial arts are the one thing I don't regret spending money on, and dedication means that it will take a while. Anyways getting into martial arts was the best decision I ever made and it let me cope with the fact that I'll probably be a man without love for the rest of my life if nothing else.

>>35026219
I hope you find someone. I know how much it sucks to feel like its hopeless

>>35025994
So you have not had true love. True love has what you describe. Best of luck finding it

>>35026302
I wish. I'm trying to find it. I don't really know where he is.

>>35026330
I just put my faith in god that it will work out.

>>35026233
I appreciate it. I'm currently at the bargaining stage, I hope if I have to reach the acceptance stage it will be a painless one since it's looking extremely bleak and the economic situation is only going to make finding someone who loves me very difficult. I don't think I've genuinely found a woman whose interest I've been able to hold for more than 5 minutes.

>>35026357
I'm just getting older and I want to give him a family and I'm worried I should just settle before I get too old. It isn't the same when you're a man, you can just... Find a younger woman.

>>35026375
Yes I agree on the economic situation. It's fairly bleak for me as well. It doesn't help that all my passions involve giving away things freely. I have a hard time making money because I prefer to share for free.

>>35026376
As long are you aren't nearing your 40s there is still hope. Gen Z and millennials just decided to age really late on average and I don't know the exact science as to why.
>>35026387
Fortunately for you, unless your goal is to be a sugar momma, you don't have to provide for anyone so you don't really need the money. As long as you can afford your apartment and some side activities you'll be able to manage fine.

>>35026140
>NGL I much prefer white men.
It's fucking over

>>35026514
I'm white myself and I don't want babies that don't look similar to me. Seeing white women with babies that are brown is depressing to me.

>>35026411
I just turned 30 and I feel shitty being in the same group as those women who claim to be too good for men and don't ever want to settle down. I just put too much effort into an abusive relationship for a decade when I should have given up long ago. And desu I would love to be a sugar momma if I had the money, then my man would never have to go to work and could focus on his interests instead.

>>35026563
If you don't consider Greeks white than you definitely don't consider Iranians white. I get where you're coming from, though. Make your ancestors proud and all of that.

>>35026563
>I just put too much effort into an abusive relationship for a decade when I should have given up long ago.
I don't blame you. You will probably be met with sympathy towards the right man. Seriously, acknowledging that you're 30 and that you're on a time limit, while not having the guy have to be a constant perfectionist will be a breath of fresh air.

>>35026614
The good news is that for the right man I would be down to have babies almost right away. Like within a year. I'm just nervous because I wasted so much of my youth on an abuser and I didn't find out how bad he was until a year in. Then I still gave nine more because I love him and I am very devoted. I kept thinking he would change. I still wish he would. He's destroying his own life by refusing to ever be happy. He would make fun of me for being able to get over things quickly, and not dwelling on pain, and being able to smile again the same day as something bad happening. It's like he constantly wanted me to be depressed like him. And both of us being in a pit of depression does nothing good for anyone. I did try it, too. I joined him in depression for 8 years. Only recently in the last year and a half did I decide I'm done with that.

>>35026648
That's a pitfall I'm glad I never had to deal with. It takes a year, at most, to decide whether people are compatible. If you want me to be honest, if you aren't sure if the person even wants to get married by 3 months the relationship just isn't going to work out.

>>35026376
I could but I need true love.

>>35026411
Nah, as long as you are white, attractive, have money then age is only a plus. Im 35 and my age has def been an attractor trait for zoomers.

>>35026648
>wasted so much of my youth on an abuser and I didn't find out how bad he was until a year in.
Should of left then and devoted yourself to your true love. You didnt understand your true love will give you more euphoric physical and mental pleasure than that narc masking loser ever could

>then I still gave nine more because I love him and I am very devoted. I kept thinking he would change
Big mistake. Now your true love wants to exerience firsts and will not choose you because you gave them to some masking larper.

>>35026670
Unfortunately being lied to and decieved makes time lost and given to the wrong person. Once she figures out the lies or cheating then she needs to block completely and course correct

>>35025994
>ctrl + f "yandere"
Let's pretend this isn't a creative writing exercise, there is an entire archetype for this and an army of men who would be happy to have you if you can find one (and you should learn how to cyberstalk if you want the title, lol).

>>35026670
Absolutely. Three months seems fair.

>>35026708
I should have but I truly loved him and I don't give up on people I love even when they give up on themselves. I should have. But I didn't.

And I hope my true love is still out there. And can forgive me for giving my time to someone who abused me. Its hard, being a female and feeling this way when in love. I can't easily tell what can be fixed by just loving harder. carrying more.

>>35026712
No one has cheated on me thankfully. That would be terrible. I literally am down for sex 24/7. There is no purpose to cheating except perhaps to hurt me directly.

>>35026722
Where do I find yandere, I find the thought attractive for sure. But I don't know where they exist. So far I've only seen them in fiction. Where are they?

>>35026740
>Where do I find yandere, I find the thought attractive for sure. But I don't know where they exist. So far I've only seen them in fiction. Where are they?
If you have seen them in fiction you would know that you are the one being the yandere.
Are you a bot?

>>35026747
I know the term I dont deliberately search for it, I just know that it means obsessive love, idk if it means giver or receiver or whatever. I'm not into anime I just know of it. If I were a bot I'd have known the definition better

>>35026740
Depends how committed you are and what you do to make up for your mistakes

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>>35025994
I despise women like you
>Over bearing
>Zero chill, if you don't subject your victim to 24/7 coddling your life is over
>Immature as a teenager even though 30
>"Let me worship you M'sir"
>Simps fall for it subtly indicating interest and availability like desperate losers
>1 month with this wench and you'll empathize with previous abuser bf
You should kys, you're a fucking psycho, just shut up and learn how to adult retard. I bet you were diddled as a kid hence why you feel the need to obsessively love vomit on a potential partner because it reminds you of your fathers diddling warm embrace. I hope you see this and gain some introspection and reflect on this insufferable insistence, go for a long psych ward admission where you fucking belong

>>35027493
Women are incapable of being adults and maturing without men, she actually has the right approach. You just hate women for existing, and I don't even blame you, but the path she's doing is the only way she'll actually evolve as long as she's sincere.

>>35025994
>spending my life trying to make theirs better.
>look at them constantly, tell them ten times a day how much I love them, spend as much time with them as possible, have sex as much as they can stand to

None of this shit makes their life better. Unless they have self esteem issues or something.

>I'd love every part of them if they'd share it, including their fears and deepest regrets.

So you'd love the parts of them that diddled kids or abused animals or murdered innocents xD

Loving means doing stuff for others that actually helps their lives but all ur doing is being burdensome. If you actually know everything about someone else you should know what's actually good for them instead of trying to force larp some hollow fairytale that serves no purpose in their lives other than gratifying ur egotistical wish to live some Disney fantasy instead of reality. What do you actually do for them in their lives other than smothering them with inane hollow unwanted praise

>>35027505
>she actually has the right approach
If this were true, the bitch wouldn't have 4failures
>Women are incapable of being adults and maturing without men
Yeah. Her father.
She's already been failed long before sexual maturity

>>35026868
I am extremely committed. My mistakes come from being so committed to the wrong person.

>>35027493
I don't literally mean worship. But mentally yes I do want to give a guy everything I possibly can offer emotionally. I was not abused as a child, I was just neglected much like most of you. I'm sorry your brain goes right to dark corners man. I hope you get help.

>>35027505
I actually agree that women need men to evolve and I'm trying to get to the point where I have found the right person who I can support and be the partner of.

>>35027536
I am a fun person to be around. People like me quite a bit. I just am not really a people person, I'm a one-person person. And no, I have limits, I would not forgive pedophiles or murderers. Once again youre going to the darkest reaches of your mind. And I do whatever helps. Whatever needs done, if it makes them happy for me to do it, I do it. I don't care what it is. I'm smart enough to be useful in many respects.

>>35027562
Two of those men were my high school boyfriends. One was my decade long partner. One was my five months boyfriend after my decade long attempt to help my abuser from the depression path he insisted to put himself on. I still wish I could help him but there's only so much of my life I can afford to give if I want someone who can actually love me. Not just despise themselves.

And I agree that my father failed. He was a doormat, and let women walk all over him. I looked up to him a lot and he failed me in every possible way because he spent his life chasing money and my whore stepmother rather than caring about his family.

>>35027576
You sound like a female mirror of me which makes me believe that you do possess a level of self awareness and desire to improve internally as well. I'm surprised you're coming from this from a lack of a father figure, rather than maternal. I heard of a woman similar to you and the reason why she developed those maternal instincts was because her mother cheated on her father and she was forced to take care of him.

>>35027593
My mother was an excellent mother who probably also sought "true love" and died waiting for it. My dad exists he just is a negative in my life, what little of it he exists in still. My maternal instincts come from wanting to give every ounce of love I have to someone.

>I'm a girl, and since I was a kid, I've experienced love as an obsession. I want to know everything about the person, look at them constantly, tell them ten times a day how much I love them, spend as much time with them as possible, have sex as much as they can stand to, and generally worship them. Not putting them above God, but spending my life trying to make theirs better. Thinking of them from morning to night. Making my entire existence about them.
It’s not that men don’t like this inherently BUT 9/10 times a woman is like this, she’s a BPDemon. So men are a bit afraid to say the least

>>35027565
Look in the mirror intently and reevaluate your life and further decisions
>I hope you get help
Nice retort, says the girl too emotionally unstable to pursue an actual relationship, totally not some fetish you emulate of projectile love bombing to reassure yourself you are wanted and needed, regardless if you can't take the hint from your exes and the entirety of the male population, except the perusing simps who acknowledge your insanity without realizing having your me time and not an infant like a kangaroo in its mother's pouch much like a tampon baking in a womans vag, come to understand it's good and more healthy of a relationship as that rather than the dependency fantasy you illustrated with this thread

>>35027604
That's good. The maternal instincts are necessary in a woman and don't ever be shamed out of it. You do need to understand that mother's can absolutely choke the life out of their son and you need to be okay with your boyfriend having to do things without you.
>>35027611
I'm scared of this too. I met a woman for a small amount of time, one day she came to me while my dad was in the hospital and profess her love to me only for her to completely ghost me like a week later. Insane behavior that makes me skeptical of any woman who is too controlling. I can only guess it's because I disagreed with feminism or something but she was too disingenuous to even tell me what made her distrust me.

>>35027604
Neither of them sound like good role models. Reading what you wrote so far I'm going to ask how much of it is you blindly repeating how you were raised.

>>35027565
That's a lot of vagueries. Muh I'm fun to be around doesn't really help others in their goals. It sounds like you want someone to need you for whatever reason. You want someone who isn't self sufficient so they require you and are codependent on you. You want to be someone else's everything. You dress it up as you want someone else to be your everything, but it's actually the reverse. Anyway you keep saying you're smart but that's what someone who needs to convince everyone they're smart says... Maybe you aren't. What do you do to help your partners' lives? How are you useful to them?

>>35025994
You and me both sister. I've always had this romantic idea of love and marriage, and always told myself I'd never want to end up in the kind of marriages and relationships around me where they're are clearly unions of convenience. I'm starting to come to the realisation that maybe the chance of two people both happening to be passionately in love with eachother at the same time is maybe near 0. Maybe life is just about finding someone who fancies you and then settling with them.

Maybe I'll just never marry or have love after all. I think the only other option is to find a niave young girl of legal age and raise her myseld to be an approxamation of the kind of wife I want.

>>35027536
>Disney fantasy instead of reality.
Nah you are just a narc who relies on lies and masking to fake emotions and will never understand true love.

>>35025994
>I'm attractive, affectionate, sexually eager
No real woman would ever describe herself in those terms.

>>35025994
>I've experienced love as an obsession. I want to know everything about the person, look at them constantly, tell them ten times a day how much I love them, spend as much time with them as possible, have sex as much as they can stand to, and generally worship them.
Now, I'm not being unkind (well, I am, but I'm not being gratuitously unkind): do you understand that this is incredibly selfish and self-centred?

>>35025994
Jeez this type of bitch makes me run away too. Thinking about it, I think its because in the past I had a girlfriend who started off as really caring for me and near obsessive about everything I do, up to the point where she 180'd and went super cold. She was one of them avoidant women and would change from 0 to 100 very fast.

>>35027936
And you are just a presumptuous buffoon who makes baseless accusations towards other people xD quit projecting, I'm sorry someone lied to you in the past and you got played and now everybody is an evil narc who fakes emotions and cannot "understand" muh ~true love~ because you were gullible

>>35028054
Look at you same fagging trying to convince her that you are correct because you cant exhibit actual love because of your ineptitudes plus you are naturally incompatible with her and your gaslighting stopped working once she realized what a worthless person you are compared to true love.

>>35028059
Look at you actually same fagging trying to hide your same fagging holy shit can't make this up xD

Also what are you schizo-babbling on about, what am I trying to convince who? What gaslighting? Who's she? Holy kek

OP? I'm not the white knight in shining armour trying to "true love" my way into OP's vagina

Oh wait the tripfag is the same... Is that an attempt to hide samefag or not? Lel

>>35028077
>>35028079
I signed with a trip code. Never hid anything

You on the othet hand,Look at you projecting. You are desperate and pathetic.

>>35027612
Like I said, I did have a decade long relationship. It was an actual relationship. My exes did not want to leave me. I don't think it's wrong to want to be dependent on a man.

>>35027625
I understand the need to do things without me. I enjoy supporting a man even if its nothing to do with me.

>>35027631
My trying to please my abuser is definitely part of how I was raised (though my parents were not abusive, I still tried my best to please them). But I'm trying not to let myself be mistreated anymore.

>>35027685
It helps people with feeling relaxed. I dont ask for much. I help with whatever I'm asked to do or whatever is needed to be done. I absolutely want someone self sufficient. A man who cannot take care of himself is not someone I want. I'm saying I'm smart because its information, not because I'm trying to convince anyone.

>>35027896
I dont really need my guy to be passionately in love with me, I just want him to accept the affection I would like to give him. And I think finding a young girl and training her to be what you'd like is actually a very viable path.

>>35027949
I'm not avoidant and I don't go cold either. I just want my man to be happy.

>>35028114
Sure. And you are just some triggered schizo. More ad hominem with no logical connection. Sit down.

>>35028172
It's useless information. How are you smart? How are you useful? You've said you're these things but you haven't shown them or backed them with any examples. It sounds like you don't really have any values other than "I'm an okay presence to be around". You have no ambition. Don't you want a family or something with your man? So work on achieving that. Build something. Quit spending every minute of every day jerking off to how amazeballs your partner is and instead do something that helps their goals or your futures

>>35028284
My dude, I don't need to define my skillset to you. I have intense passion for my interests outside of a man. I literally am building multiple projects.

>>35025994
When I was single for a VERY long time, I would bemoan how all I wanted was a girl like that, but every woman I meet is superficial and can't show actual affection. And I obviously didn't work on improving myself because I lurk on image boards, duh.
Then by some miracle I got a girlfriend like you, and I feel awful. I am stressed constantly, I feel so inadequate and unworthy of her love. I'm too broken and not mentally well enough to appreciate this girl. I've expressed this to her, she says she still loves me and will be patient, but it still gnaws at me. But I don't want to break up with her because I don't think I'll ever find someone who looks at me the way she does.

I'd be willing to bet some or all your bfs felt like this, where they like the adoration, but lacked the self-confidence to accept it. Men as a whole are not in a good headspace right now. Shocker, I know.
Best I can say is be patient, slow down a little bit, help him work through his issues. Because that is what she is doing for me.

>>35028689
Hit the gym (or some type of serious physical activity) and develop some sort of goal. Make her a part of it. You've been given God's greatest gift possible and the only thing you can do is not to leave her but to not squander the ultimate chance you have to become the man you always wanted to be.

>>35025994
I mean shit you sound perfect. I've had experience with obsessive women so I know what I'm signing myself up for. If you're still around add my disc and we can see if there's a match.

Bant221

>>35028731
Thank you for those kind words. I know I'm lucky, but feeling love after so long without it feels foreign.
I have been starting to get more physically active, because she is fairly active herself.
Goals on the other hand? This is something I've always struggled with, and is a big part of my mental hang ups. And she knows too.

>>35028785
I've been down because of a mid-life crisis of my own and being lonely, but I do quite a bit of volunteering work to make my life feel more purposeful short term, with an art project based on my life experiences + positive philosophical views to give myself a mental goal. I fantasize every day about a woman willing to help me on the latter, so maybe develop that side of yourself seriously.

>>35028689
losers like you don't deserve gfs lol
hope she realizes it and leaves you for a far better man.

>>35028394
So vague again holy shit

You write paragraphs and paragraphs and say very little in them

Alright congrats you have "intense passion" for "interests" and are building "multiple projects" and I'm sure that's why they
>ask me to stop staring, stop wanting so much time together, stop complimenting and praising them. They tell me to focus on work or hobbies instead

>>35028689
I feel very much that this is the case as none of them seemed particularly eager to break up. But the one decade long relationship I had was me giving him as much time as I reasonably could to try and work through the issues he has and he just never did. He even went so far as to say he knows he could do anything to me and I'd take it. Like that isn't at all what kind of feeling I'd like my devotion to evoke. I still hated to leave though because my love isn't something I can just turn off. I still see that he could be a good man. He's just trapped in his mind. I hope you can make it out and deserve that love.

>>35028990
I'm trying not to give out too much personal identifying information. You already have my sex age and ethnicity as well as my history of boyfriends and my personal writing style. I am a memorable person, and some of my friends are 4chan types, and I'd rather not expose my innermost desires to people who I do not want to receive that part of me.

>>35027945
Oh yeah just noticed I missed this. I agree that, because my pleasure comes from making my man happy and admiring him and thinking he's handsome and incredible and a literal gift from God to me that I am being selfish and self-centered in that I love the feeling of loving someone so much I seek it as my life's goal to achieve. So, yes. It does center my self.

>>35025994
Me and my gf have had the puppy dog love for ten plus years because when you have something in totality attraction fades. I know how to keep things fresh she should never totally have you. There is always a surplus of meaning. Vagueness is what keeps a relationship alive vagueness flirting and continuing to date she should always know ur capable of getting another bitch that's why u need to stay looking good af the tension being unresolved is how u keep that shit gojng

>>35028981
lmao you think telling me what I already tell myself in my darkest moments is supposed to hurt my feelings?
>>35029230
My biggest worry is what happened to you, where I can't fix my shit and she stays by me for too long. She is thinking short term about the comfort and safety I provide her now, while I'm looking big picture, and don't know if I can keep that going for her.
I hope I can figure things out too. And I hope you find that someone who fits what you are looking for.

I do not need all the worries.
I love her and will do what is needed for us.
I put her first.
Our love

>>35029994
Typed my trip wrong. This is me

>>35025994
The reality is that you're just not normal. I don't say that to sound cruel but it's true. Most people LOVE the sound of the kind of love that you have to give but in all honesty most people can't keep up with that kind of intensity for long. They burn out. They don't dislike it or love you any less but they get tired and drained. Unfortunately, that's your reality. You're condemned to being the light that shines so bright it burns up all those who come to admire you.

Give it time though. You'll mellow out and you'll meet someone with the patience and fortitude to handle that level of intensity.

>>35030019
Your negative narrative and assumptions do not define us.

The only correct thing you said is leveling out to equal reciprocation

That is what happens with my moon and I when we are home with each other again.

>>35025994
Meh, it's ok if you're a woman. If you're a man who thinks this way then you're totally fucked because women are hardwired to think that it's creepy.

>>35030066
I am a man who thinks like this. I was even told growing up that I have the eyes of my mother specifically. How screwed am I?

>>35030088
When you start dating you will have some bad experiences. You will learn the hard way not to show that much love to women.

>>35030098
I already have. I'm holding out hope that there is a woman that is actually romantic herself. They aren't appearing and I just feel like romance is a desire that men have and not women.

>>35030116
It's a fantasy. I don't think it exists. Because women are hypergamous and want a man who's better than them. But a man who is obsessed is felt to be below them, a simp, a cuck.

>>35030145
I mostly just want true equality where we both value the other the most but that seems like an even greater illusion.

>>35030145
Demoralization campaign. Buzz off

>>35030157
That's true love. Though equality is more of a balance of each their own to the other. Some high, some low, but complete in each other.

>You're perfect for me
>I'm so lucky

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>>35030161
That's all I can think about. Some days she wears the pants and others I do, and those days determine when the other one has been drained. What a fantasy I yearn for.

>>35030175
It's love. She's not perfect but she's perfect for me. I'm not perfect but I'm perfect for her.

>>35030199
I imagine I'm still alive in this world because I have yet to experience true love. I know that love takes effort and commitment but I need to find a woman who is even willing to try and that's extremely difficult.

>>35030214
It's actually not difficult. In my case she just needs to live our truth. She will feel how effortless life is with me when what is done is in love.

OP obviously has BPD

>>35030239
I'll keep being available and be physically active. Pray a woman approaches me because they sure get pissed when I approach them.

>>35030284
I get approached all the time, so I'm blessed that way. It's more about true love and lust, not just empty lust. I'm hypersexual and have an insane libido so it's tough to be good

>>35030308
Either because I'm brown, I'm autistic, or I'm both and that's why women don't approach me because I'm physically above average and have non-threatening eyes.
>I'm hypersexual and have an insane libido so it's tough to be good
Same. I decided to get into charity work and be overly charismatic because that's the only way I can release all this pent up energy without just constantly gooning.

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>>35025994
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>>35027896
https://youtu.be/vPu9NAjSxDI

Men have declared spiritual jihad on women and it shows as they slowly begin to lose it. This is it anons, the real gender war has begun, not the fake one with countless pronouns that is being shilled everywhere in the media, but the real war between man and woman.
Women are about to learn a harsh lesson.

Don't talk to women, don't help them, don't ask them out, don't have dating apps, don't interact with them. If a woman approaches you be nice and respectful but do not flirt or overtly joke, treat them as an equal man and then leave after the reason for the conversation is over. If a girl comes up to you and flirts kindly turn her down, if she asks you out suddenly say no thank you, don't make up a reason she only has agency because of some external reason not because she likes you. Be vague when talking about your life or weekend plans, anything you do or do with them like hooking up will be picked apart and analyzed by her and her online friends. You are a traitor and not helping anyone if you fall for their tricks.
If men can't display a modicum of power over society, this world and women, then I guess they don't hold much power at all.

>>35029230
None of this is PII but if you don't want your 4chan friends to find out this thread is you then whatever

>>35030116
Youre literally in my thread where I am yearning for romance lol we exist just apparently can't find each other.

>>35030019
I'm 30 and still not mellowed out. Rip

>>35029973
You'll get your shit together dude. You actually want to. My abusive bf didn't want to be any different.

>>35030254
No I don't

>>35025994
BPD detected