>>35031769
no

>>35031769
If you could manage to bail out in the first 3-6 months of lovebombing and fun sex before she sinks her claws in, then maybe. But overall if you're reduced to dating single mothers your SMV must be pretty low, or worse you took the redpill cope and waited way too long to look for a wife (because yes all the good ones do get taken shortly after college, sorry).
I M H O it's probably not worth it if you're not looking to become a stepdad and you're just looking for a hole to coom in. When I was dating more actively I'd only get as far as making plans with single moms, then realizing what I was doing and then cancelling. Dating in 2026 is already exhausting, why would I want to spend money and energy and put on the oofy doofy jester hat just to try to get some high mileage pussy only to be cockblocked by her kids before we get to bone. Also not to be superficial but some womens' pussies and bodies get really messed up after child birth. It's one thing if it's the mother of your own children and you have that bond of "oh this is how we made a little version of us," but to get some banged up pussy that shot out another guy's spawn, IDK.

>>35031802
Dude it’s either this or stay incel. It’s not really a choice atp

>>35031861
>stay incel
Eh it's not as bad as you'd think. It's a little lonely and boring but also quiet and peaceful, and you can do whatever you want when you want. You can even have sex whenever you want, as long as you've got cash for a hooker. And if you do somehow stumble into a actual hookup situation, you're completely available and your place is free.

You're dating her not marrying her

>>35031769
The first advice about girls/women I ever remember hearing from my parents was
>never ever ever ever EVER date a single mom
>No matter what she says about anything!
That was from both my mom and my dad. It was only later in life when I learned that some other people think this is okay and think it can possibly end well for the man.
I’ll go ahead and take my mom’s advice on this one, though. Never known a guy who dated a single mom and was proud of his “partner” for any reason at all.

>>35032039
the only reason ever to get with a single mom is if you're a single dad
otherwise you are getting with someone who will never ever treat you on the same level as their own children, while expecting you to treat their children as your own

>>35031769
Nah, bro
You gotta understand that being a single parent shows they are reckless ass fuck individuals, but unlike other reckless women in society the moms were too dumb to take birth control
I’ve never met a single mom who has her shit together and doesn’t have some major ass personality issues

You know she puts out

>>35031769
Depends if I love her. Im not giving permission to fuck around. Only answering in the case I do love her then a kid isnt a deal breaker and is an extension of her. Its a lot to accept but thats what love is. I think what makes me hesitant is dealing with the bio dad. Having the fucker floating around and dealing with the kid going there. If the bio dad is dead, I would say yes 100% to her. Again this is not permission and it became a Being with that turd and having a kid, losing so many experiences and years together with you. Thats not okay. It depends if we were together before the kid. It makes the circumstance of every decision to give to another much different to accept and i would need honesty and a reason. Then commitment and follow through. None of that other shit

Success stories only. I got a dozen male friends married to single moms. They all got children together after the fact, and still happily married. It takes a good man with a positive mentality. It wasn’t settling neither because their wives are gorgeous.

>>35032035
No. Single moms is a bigger commitment with intent to marry. Otherwise you are just manipulating her dragging her along with just enough transaction to use her hole until a better ones around. I detest this kind of person she does that to others.

You need to acknowledge that there is girls to experience first with, who keeps promises, who are kind, considerate, communicative, faithful, loyal, attractive, virgin etc who would give it all for what i provide. Id have to love her to accept a lot of shit, but id also exspect her to actively do better and correct whats wrong.

>>35031769
Of course. Just maintain clear boundaries and nope out of there if she wants you to start playing father to her child.

>>35031769
It’s worth it, and the child means nothing at all (as far as it not being yours) if she doesn’t talk to the babydad and if she’s actually loyal to you, and appreciates you. The only thing is, if you ever brake up, you’ll be braking up with her AND the child. And that’s gonna hurt a lot worse than it being just her.

>>35031769
Specifically the one in your pic is not worth it.
Post others so I can help you.

>>35031769
>single mom at 20
Just contemplate the situation.
You're dating a woman that conceived a child out of wedlock, never manged to keep the father around (assuming she even knows who the father is), has no plans for the future other than YOLO, and now brag about that on an app that promote casual hooking up culture.

>>35032152
I also know dozens of men who married gorgeous single moms. It works out every single time, really.

>>35031769
Approach with caution at the very least. Sometimes it's a red flag for the single mum, sometimes it's a red flag for the dad. You are always going to be filling the spot of the absent father though, if you're okay with that then good on you, you're offering a kid a dad that would otherwise be absent. But you'll never have any rights in terms of parenting, you get given the responsibility but none of the rights, which sucks.

>>35031769
Problem is that all there are nowadays are single moms. You must be really lucky to get something different.

Personally if the dad is out of the picture completely (as in dead lol) I wouldn't object as long as the spawn isn't too young.

>>35032061
My mom can be a pretty highly
manipulative lady and that has absolutely cause problems before but the flip side of that coin is that she went way out of her way to warn me about and explain manipulation tactics that could/would eventually be used “against” me. It was sometimes hilarious too. I was an hour or two away from my first date and my mom asked if I needed any condoms, which is weird and insanely awkward but I guess parents were hit hard with the “give everyone condoms all the time” thing from the 90s. So I replied telling her it’s fine because the girl was Catholic and she should chill out
>CATHOLIC?? Yeah you definitely need condoms.
I did not have sex with that girl but I guess my mom really believed in me kek

>>35031861
sure there is, maybe not in your country though.

If you look decent - but lack money - go where your purchasing power is stronger and date.
If you look ugly but money would make you dateable somewhere else - move there.

If you are dateable in your country - go date.

Simple as.

I dont see the problem. Unless you are puer aeternus who needs mommy and daddy around all the time.

Pack and leave while you are still young and healthy, fuck and enjoy life.

Work wise do whatever you can. If you are USAn you guys have visas for most of the world and are either feared or respected in most places. (yes, still).

Go and play it smart.

>>35031769

Dont do it.

Even if her husband died on her, which is unfortunate, you will never be a a dad to HER kids. And every disciplining action will be seen as attack on HIS memory.

And if she is otherwise single mom - she shows poor frontal lobe game.
Poor big image thinking.
Poor planning.
Impulsive tendencies.
Lack of thinking in general.

Why make someone like that your partner?

VALUE SELF MORE.
EVEN if you are a fat wreck of a man, you are still a man, its still harder for you than for an ugly woman.

Have pride and demand more. Demand unto infinity.

>>35033586
dont ever be realistic

realistic dudes kill themselves after fucking a fat slob because they hypnotized themselves into thinking its okay.


THe uglier u are the more you should demand. Approach every woman with "pussy now". Demand, do not be realistic, be assertive (no raping like some fugee retard) but be demanding and be NOT realistic. Do not gauge yourself by your canthal tilts and other BS, but simply assume your worthiness because you breathe and can get it up.
Demend unto infinity forever and never stop demanding. And when you get the 10/10, demand she suxks your dick every morning and clean your smegma.


No other way exists.

>>35031769
>I keep getting matches with single moms but i dont want to be a step dad, ever.
Go fuck yourself you piece of shit. I don't get ANY matches EVER. Fuck off.

Single moms are hard. You’re not going to be a high priority. Things are going to go slower and if she wants to go fast she just needs a place to stay so beware.

I married a single mom but I was also a single dad. Childless men have more issues with this situation imo. “Hey let’s take the kids to the Chuck E Cheese” becomes a viable date option but bringing a random dude without kids around to hang out there is fucking weird by comparison. Then there’s the relationship with the ex that’s weird.

OPs picrel is a 20 year old single mom so I’d avoid that shit. Especially since she’s clearly fucking stupid for putting her kid in her profile pic without at least blurring his face.

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>>35031769
>don't want to be a step dad
>single moms

>>35033625
>OPs picrel is a 20 year old single mom so I’d avoid that shit.
Fuck you, man, I would hit that so hard, I'd fucking make her a new mother again. She's fine as fuck.
>Especially since she’s clearly fucking stupid
I don't fucking give a shit. Bitch is fine as fuck.

>>35033640
Okay we’re talking about busting nuts now which is a different conversation. They still put out just at way lower rates than average and there’s a good chance she’s looking to snag a step daddy. There are plenty of hot college aged girls down to smash that are considerably less effort than one already carrying baggage.

Also she’s a fucking 6 bro. She can probably hit a 7 if she dresses up nice but tits look mid and if she’s breast feeding still expect those nips to be like leather. Very typical white girl ass. Not worth the effort imo.

>>35033653
>Very typical white girl ass. Not worth the effort imo.
I'm black so she's an 11 for me and totally worth the effort.
Plus I'm 40. Fuck, I'd marry the bitch right now, Idgaf.

>>35033659
Fair enough. Sure you don’t want a fatter white woman though?

>>35033668
lol that's a funny stereotype I never really resonated with

The dating apps threw you a bone. That should clue you in to the value of the bone. Come on man, you can do better. Try off the apps.

>>35033671
Fair. I’m just saying I’ve been down the “got pregnant in high school single mom” road before and they’re usually pretty dumb, immature, crazy, and flaky. Coin toss if she’s a regular drug user or not.

>>35033637
Do you not understand what it means to consider something?
>OP: I don't want to be a stepfather but I want to know If it could be worth it to date a single mom.
>(YOU): Why would you want to date a single mom if you hate being a stepfather.
How are you this fucking retarded?

>>35033571
Is your mom hot

>>35033679
I get what you're saying, I totally do. But, bro, I'm a 40 year old black incel. I'm not getting any younger and I don't have any options. If the girl in OP's pic showed up at my door, she would automatically become my wife. I don't care what issues she has. I don't even care if she's the next Lindsay Clancy. It's done... she's my wife.

>>35033715
lol she’s an old lady now. Back in the day she’d probably have been considered average. Maybe a little above. The big thing is that she’s really, really fucking funny. She’d make me laugh so hard I wasn’t nervous anymore if I was worried about something coming up.

>>35033729
Based mom

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>>35033792
Is this an Obsession reference?

>>35031769
It's not bad if the kid is old enough to take care of themselves. But a younger woman with a kid that's like younger than 10 and needs to constantly be taken care of is a deal breaker.

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>>35031769
no

I know a woman who's a single mom (TWICE), as in she had a kid with a guy, he left, he came back later, she had another kid with him, he left again. She is now a bitter feminist who publically mocks men in dating apps who try to meet up with her, all why posting thirst traps and getting mad when the wrong men give her attention

>>35031894
What happens when youre 50 and all your friends are long gone taking care of their own familes and your parents/siblings are dead?

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Just go to any midwest town and this is all you see

>>35033833
What app is this?

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The biggest insult is that she 100% would have never dated you if she didn't have a kid.

>>35031769
Hooking up with one with adult children isn't as bad as annoying ass little kids. I saw one lady for over a year that had like a 20 year old daughter. Never had a serious full relationship with a single mom though I hooked up once or twice with at least two others besides her. Most of the time those type of women have no spare time anyhow.

>>35033858
lol I actually have this image saved from months ago

>>35033816
gross those panties are hiked up to hide an overhanging gut, it's probably a fully bifurcated gunt even.

>>35033897
Those are panties...?

>>35033833
>Fat
>Bad tats
>Nose piercings
>Actively trying to look slutty in a filtered pic
>1-2 kids
>Entry level wagie job
>Definitely lives with parents
>Proudly announces she has 100% custody implying the dad is either a total deadbeat, in jail, abusive, dead, or doesn’t even know about the kid which really speaks to her taste in men
These are all throwbacks. Let them throw it back. Use protection. Then throw them back in the lake. Remember bros. You are chasing a wall hanger.

>>35033920
fraid so brutha.
Like some giant ass black granny panties hiked up over her fat stomach.

I went for Asian single mom for a short bit. Just trying to get pussy. Coffee date then dinner date then a walk date. Finally on the walk we made out a bit. Then I got the HR breakup text. I absolutely mogged her husband btw and have fucked hotter girls since. I invited myself over a few times saying we could still have fun as friends. Then after her third refusal I deleted the app cause I was already banging another girl irl

>>35031769
They're single for a reason.

>>35033986
>Then I got the HR breakup text.
kek

>>35033979
Ewwwwww

lmao no
Not even because I’m against being involved in someone else’s life
I’m just pro-making women suffer, including their children.

>>35034132
>including their children
I like you

>>35031769
>Shagged-Yes
Date-No
Marry-Hell Nooo

>>35031861
>>35033489
If your dating options pool is reduced to mostly single mothers, the problem is that you probably live in Painkiller Pills, Rhode Island or Meth, Idaho.
In the US at least, all the attractive young single women are in the big coastal cities doing their girlboss thing. Are they obnoxious feminists? Yes. Do they have ridiculously high standards because they work with finance trust fund Chad all day? Also yes. But they're at least childless, still young, and look better than the average dumpy townie girls dragging along mulattoes that you're currently considering.

Hood moms can be as much of a diva as any other woman. They will always be a challenge.

>>35034255
I hate divas

>>35031802
>first 3-6 months of lovebombing and fun sex
NTA but I don't think I want sex with a single mother.
>>35031861
There are plenty of easy women, how do you think she got pregnant in the first place?

>>35034565
You ain't gonna have much of a choice if you want a hot girlfriend. It's either gonna be a diva who is gonna be implicit or explicit. The ones that love you see your human side, but the ones that don't see you as trash.

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>>35033897
>>35033920
whats a bifurcated gunt

>>35033819
You say that as if there isn't a coin flip's chance that I'll meet the same fate even if I meet a woman and start a family, only it will be worse because then I'll lose half my shit, half my income, and have the emotional pain of children who are estranged from me and the mother of those children choking on strange dick.

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>>35035032
It's pic related, when the gut over the cunt gets fat but instead of a nice round tummy the fat starts sagging on each side of the abdominal midline, hence becoming "bifurcated." Usually caused by extreme weight fluctuation like getting fat after a pregancy, and insufficient strength in the abdominal muscles/connective tissue to keep the tummy round and taut.

>>35031769
All relationships are a matter of how invested your own feelings are. So any answer I provide is assuming you are not yet lettings yourself catch feelings.
Answer is no. As a numbers game, the answer is just no unless she's a bit out of your league otherwise and ready and willing to have one of yours.
Otherwise, let single dads date single moms.

>>35033833
as someone who lives in the midwest i can 100% confirm this to be true with the addition of torta single moms also being added to the mix

i am a 38 year old that will never fuck and probably take my head schmoove off soon ama

>>35035503
How you feel about turning 40 soon?

>>35035510
Gay.

>>35033833
>>35035503
Perhaps consult my advice, posted earlier and yet ignored by all because you are stupid people >>35034217

>>35035510
my birthday is in 2 weeks, whats another 52
pretty shitty but could be worse

>>35035520
i will never make enough money to live in a big city unless i had like 5 other roommates living in a 1br apt

>>35035529
>i will never make enough money to live in a big city unless i had like 5 other roommates living in a 1br apt
You can get the benefits of city living including the women without actually living in the city. Or you can just make more money, but if you want to resign yourself to being a lower class male then expect to need to settle for even lower class women like your local fat single moms.

>>35035535
Nta, what are you trying to say, that someone can just live an hour away from the suburbs and commute to work every day and still reap the benefits of living there? We both know that's not how it will work.
You need to have a job practically set up in/around the city to even consider moving there without living in some section 8 apartments/with others.
>Or you can just make more money
I can't tell if you're trying to be genuine with your advice and I want to believe you are since you're trying to refer people to it multiple times but when you tell people "just make more money" it's hard to take you earnestly.

>>35031861
>either this or stay incel

Go watch Dear Zachary to reconsider this mindset.

>>35031769
It's entertaining as fuck. Depending on the reason for single motherhood, divorce after 30. She's got a career and her kid(s). You're just there to remind her what being wanted is like and not to join in parenting.

Younger moms are usually due to bad choices. they'll toss the kid off to grandma to babysit and grandma is telling her to reel in a man, you have a good window though. The power play is to meet grandma and grandpa, shake hands, small talk, be put together. Even when you bail, they see it as her fault and you have an easy opening to always get some more before "she messes it up again"

>>35035548
>someone can just live an hour away from the suburbs and commute to work every day and still reap the benefits of living there? We both know that's not how it will work.
It requires work but it's very doable. I have two brother that live on Long Island and work in NYC. They commute three hours total every day and they still have no trouble taking women back to their place from the city.
>when you tell people "just make more money" it's hard to take you earnestly
I mean, I'm sorry if this offends your NEET or minimum wage sensibilities, but if you're not making the sort of money that would let you live somewhat comfortably in a city suburb then why the fuck are you trying to date anyway? ESPECIALLY a single mother who is going to expect you to spend money on her spawn eventually.

Feel free to criticize my advice but I'd first suggest you critically examine how much of your criticism is you just being too lazy or defeatist to want to improve your life situation.

>>35035462
That is nasty as fuck

>>35035614
>That is nasty as fuck
I know, right?
Sadly that's what like 70% or 80% of y'all are gonna end up with at some point down the line.

>>35035032
what the hell are those scars under her ribcage

>>35035641
Her "tiger stripes"
Which is to say her stretch marks from her bastard pregnancies and eating like a pig even after they were over.

>>35035648
>Her "tiger stripes"
lol... lmao even

Dating? You're suppose to be leading them on to fuck them and ghost once she starts catching on you will never commit. Also never fuck at your place in case you get a stalker psycho one. 18-25 yr old single moms want affection and attention. Talk all that nonsense and get them to open their holes for you asap.

>>35031769
Just make her another baby and abandon her

>>35037375
lol that's cruel and morally reprehensible

>>35031769
My only gf was a single mother and no it’s not worth it. She gave me sass even just over suggesting where to put her daughter’s pc tower after having the nerve to ask me to move her bedroom furniture around. She will constantly berate you over her kids. She’s not over her ex.

Only if she satisfies the following conditions:
1. The kids are white
2. The father of the kids is dead, and died while married i.e. she is a widow
3. She is willing to have additional kids with you

Then and only then do you proceed, however this filters of 99% of single moms who are irresponsible whores

>>35037611
>The kids are white
lol racist motherfucker

>>35037682
Did you accidentally click on here from reddit, faggot?

>>35033833
It's all you see because it's hoes on hookup apps. The birthrate is dropping like a stone, there are definitely plenty of women without kids. Doesn't mean they aren't also awful, but you find fish in a fish market, if you look for gold in a fish market you're retarded.

>>35037447
How so? From a biological point of view it makes complete sense. She has proven that she can keep the first baby alive on her own.

>>35039324
Most of the people posting here seem to have done that

>>35033586
>Even if her husband died on her, which is unfortunate, you will never be a a dad to HER kids. And every disciplining action will be seen as attack on HIS memory.
Nah, you can absolutely be a dad.
It makes a huge difference why they are single, and also if they are genuinely looking for a father & husband or just a boyfriend.
t. did it and no worries

>>35031861
>>35031894
>>35031802
>>35035552
>>35034217


you forgot another option: going after young zoommettes

Not raising another (probably black) man's kids, thats all it comes down to.

>>35040328
lol kill yourself racist motherfucker