Been seeing this quite often on social media. Are virgin women truly better than women who were drilled by other men?>bodycount of 1 or 2 doesn't matterIdk about that cuz one might as well have a body count of 5 or 10 and hide that fact by claiming that they'd only slept with one or two dudes in a "serious" relationship. Even in the case of a woman with sub 5 bodycounts above 0, it still seems that relationship with such a woman is going to be insanely volatile.I don't know much about this as I come from a rather conservative family and premarital sex is literally a big no-no.
>another sloppy seconds cuck threadSigh.
>>35039495>>another sloppy seconds cuck threadwhat?
>>35039490>Are virgin women truly better than women who were drilled by other men?No.What's happening here is that some people are good at relationships, and some people are shitty at relationships, and others are at various points in between. If someone is good at relationships, they will find the right partner quite early in life, get married, and stay married. By contrast, people who are bad at relationships tend to have their relationships fail over and over, and rack up a steadily increasing number of ex-girlfriends or ex-boyfriends. When someone like that gets married, the chances are that marriage will fail in precisely the same way that all their previous relationships did.So, someone having a very large number of ex partners is an indicator that they're bad at relationships and their next relationship will probably fail too, but this DOESN'T mean that getting together with a virgin improves your chances of staying together. When someone is a virgin there's no way to tell if they are someone who is good at relationships and is going to find the right person and settle down, or whether they are someone who is terrible at relationships and is going to acquire a long string of ex partners, but just hasn't started the process yet, and you're going to be the first of their exes.On top of that, most studies fail to correct for things like a person's religious beliefs. Someone who waits till marriage to have sex is probably religious, and if they're religious they're probably opposed to divorce. So the fact that virgin marriages are less likely to end in divorce is not actually an indication that the marriage is happy or stable, it's merely an indication that more people are trapped in unhappy marriages with no means of escape.The idea that having sex somehow damages your ability to pair bond is bullshit pseudoscience of the first order.
For most of human existence, pairbonding has been teenage boy meets teenage girl and they get together and married and that's it. Having access to infinite dicks and birth control is an entirely unique and completely at-odds-with-evolution development in human history, and the breakdown in relationships is the result. Women are forever stuck in the "I don't need babies, I can choose better" mode of thought, right up until they cannot get mates anymore, and men end up hating women and turning into turbo misogynists because they correctly view women as disloyal, as women no longer need them for resources or protection.Basically, social engineering has been a disaster for the human race.
>>35040147Women can easily opt for 6'6 sperm donors and they've enough money to be single mothers. Denmark is already seeing a massive rise in single moms who become moms with the help of highly vetted sperm donors.
>>35040147>Basically, social engineering has been a disaster for the human race.for the majority of males perhaps.
>>35040133>nocopeThe capacity to pair bond is degraded by having multiple partners. Past behavior is also indicative of future behavior. >bu bu women who don't whore around are probably unhappy!extreme cope, the opposite has been documented, but women are extremely vulnerable to social pressure and social media and modern society has told them that self-destructive behavior is good.
>>35039490To be fair, this graph confirms a little bit of a bias that your girl, when she didn't have that many partners, might want to leave you. But that can happen anywhere below two partners. So when women are asked how many partners did you have and they say two, they're not counting hundreds of dicks that they've sucked. They say too because those are the two relationships they CONSIDER to be real partners. And that's why the bias is here in this graph. Also, there is no age in this graph. It could be that the married women with zero partners are in their 20s, early 20s. And they haven't had a chance to have that many partners and divorce yet. In conclusion, I wouldn't go based off a graph. I would really go based on the specific woman that you meet with. Use your good judgment. You were given senses. Use them.
>>35040147I like paternity tests. They should become mandatory.50 years ago marrying a religious virgin guaranteed the kids are yours.
>>35040238>The capacity to pair bond is degraded by having multiple partners.There is literally no evidence WHATEVER to support that claim. Anyone who thinks there is doesn't understand Occam's Razor.
>>35040147>For most of human existence, pairbonding has been teenage boy meets teenage girl and they get together and married and that's it.That's an extremely questionable claim. Modern humans have been around for 300,000 years. It's likely that, for nearly all of that time, there was a single dominant Chad who had a harem of females, and none of the other males ever got a look-in. Marriage is a very recent invention on that kind of timescale.
>>35040621All evidence suggests that there was no single mating strategy, it varied by tribe.
>>35040605>I will ignore all evidence presented and shout DEBOOONKED NO EVIDENCE DEBOONKEDEven more cope. Being a whore is psychologically damaging, this is not news and does not surprise any real human beings.
>>35039490Does marriage really make sense in a world where half of them end in 5-8 years?No.What you need is a 5 year contract.You define the conditions before you sign it, and it works like any other legal contract.The "love you forever" crap is Disney, not the reality of human relations.I propose 3, 5 and 8 year contracts actual achievable relationship goals, with the 8 year one for having children.When the contract ends, you separate.
>>35040621> It's likely that, for nearly all of that time, there was a single dominant ChadActually no.There was a genetic bottleneck about 7000 years ago, as the Proto indo European males who were 175cm tall on average, out competed the Neolithic Anatolian Farmer males (who were on average 163cm tall) whenever they interacted. This btw is where all our stories of elves, dwarves and "little people" come from.But other than that, no.
>>35039490>How true is this?As the other anon pointed out, if you coerce a woman who is neurologically hardwired for hoedom to get married as a virgin, you'll get what you expect. The reason why there are so many hoes is because genes associated with harlotry & infidelity were selected by both men & women and those who cheat never got culled from the genepool nor were their children castrated. Since majority of societies never punished cheating women to death, hoe genes will always continue to survive & endure. The modern whore crisis is a demographic crisis more than anything. Non hoes got steadily replaced by hoes over the course of 5000-10000 years. Spineless men & cowardly women who allow & tolerate cheating men and women to spread their genes are more to be blamed desu.However, older virgin women(23-28 age range), are the ones you should be looking to wife up asap as these women demonstrated restraint & lifelong monogamy tendencies.
>>35039490your family is right. listen to your family, and be grateful you weren't raised by sluts and cucks.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FgxacX72snA&ra=m
>>35039490Your mom was a whore who never revealed her true past, in all likelihood. There have been numerous works of art over the past 800 years that had warned us all about female nature and you've to be retarded as hell to not see it. pic rel.>>35041904this
>>35040133This tracks My mom married her second body, divorced him, also divorced her 3rd, decided not to marry the 4th but he's gone too now
>another incel meme graph threadSigh.
>>35039490Vitgi9nity is not the issue. Promiscuity is. A woman who slept with 1 or 2 men, each in the context of a loving, hoped-to-be-permanent relationship is more to be valued than one with an intact hymen who gave use of her hands, mouth and ass to anyone who came by.
>>35042857You know as much as I do that virginity means KHHV type virginity and not the kind of crap you might be thinking
>>35042857You people post such stupid goddamn shit it's exhausting
>>35039490All women are whores anon, including your own foremothers.
>>35040133If that were true you wouldn't see the bump at 2 partners followed by a dip.
>>35040133>this nonsense againHow many times do I have to explain your retarded cope to you before you stop regurgitating it?>some people are good at relationships1. Which is arguing that those who wait until marriage are therefore the "best at relationships". They're the ones who are most likely to marry their first and stay married. I know you object to this, but (2) it takes two to have a relationship. If it were solely a question of individual dispositions, you wouldn't see such a stark dropoff from 1 to 2 partners (their first sexual partner working out being random chance, according to you, since you refuse to accept that sexual restraint is a logical thing to do), yet we do. Nor would you see a pattern where there's relatively little added damage once you have more than one partner. That's not being "good at relationships". That's being exclusive. Being 'good at relationships' is necessary, yes, but not sufficient as an explanation.>When someone is a virgin there's no way to tell if they are someone who is good at relationshipsYes, there is. It's called being in a relationship with them. Which doesn't need to involve sex--and given the data, it shouldn't.>most studies fail to correct for things like a person's religious beliefs.No, they don't. You just refuse to acknowledge them and go right back to posting walls of incoherent cope.>So the fact that virgin marriages are less likely to end in divorce is not actually an indication that the marriage is happy or stableExcept the studies which explicitly control for religion show that those who wait BOTH divorce less and have happier marriages. If your rationalization were true, that these people are miserable but just refuse to divorce, that shows an even *stronger* beneficial effect than you're arguing against, since the happy couples would have to outweigh not only the baseline but also the supposed cohort of miserable ones who don't remove themselves from the dataset by divorcing.
>>35042857>Promiscuity is.All promiscuity stems from the decoupling of sex from commitment. Whether she's (or he, for that matter, but thread is specifically about women) done it once or a thousand times is academic. It's intrinsically wrong.>A woman who slept with 1 or 2 men, each in the context of a loving, hoped-to-be-permanent relationshipThis is by far the most damaging step, because she has already conceded the most important standard the first time she did it. If anything, this woman is far more in need of condemnation than the turbowhore who spends her 200th consecutive day in a truck stop bathroom. Why? Because the turbowhore is imperceptibly different with each subsequent instance of her behavior. The marginal decline is basically zero.But a woman who convinces herself that it's okay to whore herself out to some guy because he's charismatic and just really wants to 'test the waters' before he commits? That's a complete paradigm shift--there is no going back from thinking that sex is okay without commitment.Any society which aims to prevent promiscuity will be better served preventing the latter kind of acts. The former may be worse in isolation, but society declines far more with the latter.
>>35044661She's experiencing motivated reasoning.
so 2 sexual partners is normal but a third one automatically makes her a whore?i can't comprehend incel math
>>35044731anyone with a bodycount above one, is unmarried or does not have a lifelong committed relationship; is indeed a whore, mein kunt.
>>35044731That's data from the CDC
