I trooned out a few years ago but I'm only on estrogen, I haven't worn womens clothing in that time though I used to do it when I was younger but I can't even fit my feet into womens shoes now lmaoanyways I saw a few pics of trans women and they were with women or FTMs and it was just so obvious who was trans and who wasn't. ik that if you troon after puberty it basically depends on luck and I don't think I got lucky, I'm way too tall and I don't want to stand out in crowds or anythingrn I am just coping with estrogen and I want to get facial feminization surgery in the next few years but I don't think I can just undergo social transition, I don't want to embarrass myself. I just think that once I get it nothing will change apart from feeling a little less shit about myself but let's me honest, my bones are pretty masculine now so there's no hope of looking like an average womanat the same time I feel like there's nothing I can do apart from this, if I attempted to do anything more I would fail. I would also like to have a more feminine voice and just keep doing what I do right now (live online never mentioning my gender) and maybe larp as a trap or something loooooool. I know it's so 2014 coded but yeah I can't see myself doing anything elseat the same time though I know that won't be enough, but won't people know I'm a troon if I will end up looking vaguely feminine and with a more feminine voice? is there a way to like maximize bodily femininity without people thinking you're a troon? maybe just like some weird effeminate gay guy, I think that would be bettersorry that this sounds like rambling, I was feeling sad today and I was thinking about this stuff. I don't really want to kill myself but I don't know how to do away with the constant sadness
>>35046265>I trooned outwaw! tits reveal when
I know it's not what you want to hear but you need to seek Jesus my brother. You are loved. Wish you the best
>>35046345Why can't christians ever be honest
>>35046265None of that garbage will ever change what you are, you've been sold a lie by degenerate freaks, rich people that want to ruin society and a pharmaceutical industry that sees people victimized like you as perpetual customers. You were lied to, betrayed by everyone who enabled this bullshit, and the only solution is to stop immediately and learn to cope with REALITY.
>>35046801>degeneratebuzzword>ruin societybuzzwords>learn to cope with REALITYimplying what OP is talking about isn't coping alreadyYou have no solid basis for anything you say, you are just talking about your likes and dislikes.
>>35046265I don't know what it's like for a MTF but as an ex-FTM who almost took hormones I accepted that I would never be a male but I could present as male as I want. I never interacted with the trans community much and always knew that it was impossible to be a real man or be seen as one so I never got my feet off the ground. I had to face my dysphoria stemming from sexual abuse and feeling like being female made me come to terms with my body more (not to say I'm perfectly fine with my body, I still don't like all of my female features but I don't feel the crushing agony any more). I realised I could just be myself and not hold myself to any standard of feminity, I could be as masculine or as feminine as I liked and my sex is just a physical characteristic that will unavoidably affect parts of my life and perception shouldn't have to define me. Can you pinpoint what makes you dysphoric? Is it disliking your male traits, liking female ones, wanting to be seen as cute like a woman is? If it's like that, I think just presenting in a feminine matter would be the best path. Easier said than done because it's a lot more taboo to be an effeminate man than the reverse so it's not a easy fix. I think if you find why you feel dysphoric (it's challenging but doable) you can work from there and see what needs to be done. But personally I will never think deluding yourself like that is good except in extreme cases and if you want to be a woman for fetish reasons then I have no sympathy for you.
>>35046923Taking estrogen isn't coping, trooning out isn't coping, it's running into traffic. You don't tell a schizo their delusions are real to help them, you fuckwit. >no solid basisLiterally everything I said is based on historical or financial fact. Pharmaceutical companies push this nonsense, not because it is real, but because it makes them a lot of money and once you start getting surgeries you are fucked for life and a permanent customer.
>>35047044What the fuck is "real" to you? You are also a "customer for life" if you buy new glasses every two year or so. Why is that a criteria for is "real" or not? And why are you the arbiter of what is or isn't coping? How are you even helping OP by telling them "your feelings don't matter"? Are you even aware you're contradicting yourself if you aren't also telling them to kill themselves if that's the case? Probably not since again you misinterpreted the term "solid basis" as me demanding you to appeal to some "reality" when in fact it was about logical coherence. But clearly, that is not your strong point. Also the schizo comparison doesn't apply since those delusions can cause them to physically attack others.
>>35046801One encouraging takeaway is that there’s always a Luigi Mangione to rid the world of evil business tycoons. :D>>35046923Kill yourself.
>>35047080You first, nigger.
>>35046265What makes you want to be a woman? Could you list some reasons? I might be able to relate and offer something.
you're retarded and realizing it
>>35046265Only way to "cope" with it is to realise and come to terms with how retarded and pointless it is. You have to stop caring about stupid shit, let go and move on with your life. Try to find logic to your dysphoria in your brain, just keep asking yourself why to every rationalisation you come up with until you get to the point where you can't come up with any new answers, then you will be free
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>>35046923>You have no solid basis for anything you sayYou have a Y chromosome in every cell in your body. You will never be a woman socially, medically, technically, even in passing. You are multidimensionally and forever a MAN. Sex drives our very existence and has existed for billions of years. How much more solid do you want to get? Saying you can change your gender is pure delusion, it's fantasy, it can't happen. It's a mental illness and you need treatment to stop it, not encourage it, same as if you wanted to get surgeries to cut your hands off or gouge your eyes out.
My advice may be bad because I've never understood the transgender movement at all on the grounds of me not personally feeling that way whatsoever about the circumstances of my birth being wrong.When I see trans people either online or in-person, a lot of their actions and activities seem to be around the basis of that identity. I understand that this is done because traditionally, transsexuals aren't just allowed to exist in communities with no problems so when they find a place that they are accepted, it's seen as an affirming measure as well as a way to self-express. This is why there's so much trans stuff in gaming and tech, well that and I believe neurodivergence also drives a lot of trans decision making.To me however that's an incredible amount of effort and time wasted on becoming a label for the purpose of validating your identity to yourself. You should instead focus on the fact that maybe you don't apply to a label, so why should you force your body to? All you are doing is longing for operations and medication from big pharma as >>35046801 said and I just think you need to address why you actually feel sad by having a thought exercise of "what would I do if modern medicine didn't exist?".The rebuttal of course is "well, isn't me not getting HRT and surgery also just me falling line with a label" but once again my point of view is that all you are doing is letting your body do what it does naturally and that maybe you disconnect the hormones in your body from your experience in this world and how you perceive yourself. Men have an incredibly hard time mentally in these times in first-world countries and I also think a lot of cope that is spawned from this is what you are thinking now.