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Advice for people who are struggling to take off with this:
If you believe you're fucked, keep getting rejected, all hope seems lost, etc. You may be trying but if your mindset is fucked then your attempts wont amount to much. If you tend to always see things as hopeless, never thinking you will make it, etc, you might need to change your mindset.
If you think it wont go well before you even try, how do you think it will go? A lot of people get stuck in this hypnosis where they believe they will never get dates or girls. Start noticing this trance you are putting yourself in and stop adding to it. You can change your mood a lot based on what you're imagining. Thinking to yourself "I can't feel good since I have no girl" and "no girl wants me because I'm a loser" is just an endless loop. Instead start imagining how things will work out. Start seeing things as going well. Start believing you are cool, that women already like you (they probably do but you have trouble accepting it), start imagining yourself actually being smooth. Essentially convince yourself that you will pull it off. You have to be constantly noticing when your focus starts shifting to hopelessness, and shift it back. When you can keep your focus on things working out well it will change things a lot faster. And if you think this is bullshit.. that thinking is the issue.

I want to break up with my FWB cause shes a disgusting whore who won't stop calling and texting me nonstop but I have no self control and keep coming back. What do I do?

>>35055858
I'm in the same boat. Except she's not a whore. And we are in a situation ship. And I don't want anybody to find out about this.

I think I need to delete my websites and social media accounts for a bit until this fire is set out.

The sex is absolutely fantastic though.

>>35055896
I'd be happy with a situationship. This one is fucking 5 other guys and tries to be best friends with me. I want it to end but how can I say no to free and easy pussy

I can talk to women easily, but I have to get over that anxiety. The thing is, I have met a couple of women through the years that I was able to hold a conversation with. And felt that they were being open and interested.

Example, talking to one for two hours, and like, when is the point where its acceptable to ask them out? I always have had this fear of it backfiring and getting a negative reaction. Yeah, im talking to her, and have been for a while, I just dont know when its appropriate or not.

>>35055912
In my younger years, id like to add, it wasnt too rare to be approached or talk to them. Mostly because I was in environments where socializing was part of it. Like bars.

>>35055905
She can barely speak English, and it's pretty embarrassing when we go out in public. When we went to this one restaurant, the waitress was asking her a question, and she literally just ignored the waitress talking to her. I was smirking because it was funny, but honestly, I feel like when people see us in public, they know exactly that I'm just some guy fucking an Asian woman.

Then there's my ex-girlfriend who I love dearly coming back into my life at this moment. After a month of being alone. I really don't like having to balance more than one woman. It's tiresome.

>>35055905
Does that whore ever have another man's sweat covering her body? If she's still clean, maybe it's okay, but yeah, that seems kind of gross.

>>35055926
>nd it's pretty embarrassing when we go out in public.
Are you able to turn it into like a distant FWB thing? I couldn't handle the time wasted going on dates with someone like this.
>Then there's my ex-girlfriend who I love dearly coming back into my life at this moment.
Why did you breakup?

>>35055928
Not long ago she had two first dates planned on the same day and fucked both guys in their backseat on the same day.

>>35055935
>turn it into like a distant FWB thing?
That's not a bad idea. I think it would take some wit and manipulation. It could be done. She's not the most intelligent woman. Or at least the language barrier presents a lot potential for exploitation.

>Why did you breakup?
This was another Asian woman and we got along. She could speak pretty good English, but I just felt like something was missing. I felt trapped in a corner and isolated due to her not coming up with things to talk about, or entertaining ideas very well. I don't know, things felt very one-dimensional, and I don't like that a lot, but at the same time, I feel so responsible for making sure she's safe and happy.. Like a daughter.

>>35055946
It's hard to imagine a beautiful woman doing that sort of thing. We all love sex and we would probably do the same thing if we were her, capable of it.

Maybe her parents divorced and she witnessed her mother and father dating other people so she doesn't really care.

>>35055965
>It's hard to imagine a beautiful woman doing that sort of thing.
She's extremely beautiful just weird
>We all love sex and we would probably do the same thing if we were her, capable of it.
I'd rather be looking for an actual serious relationship not spend my time fucking a bunch of diseased whores in an empty car park.
>Maybe her parents divorced and she witnessed her mother and father dating other people so she doesn't really care.
She's non-monogamous and tries to explain it to me like it's this deep philosophical thing about finding different types of connections with different type of people but then shes just fucking random gym bros she meets on hinge like just accept you're a whore don't make it something deeper

>>35055978
She might never be satisfied. I think that sexual satisfaction can't be reached. I wish it could. But even after fucking three times a day and tried for a fourth time because I'm still horny, like it just doesn't go away.

And then there's people who are closer to being asexual and just don't care about sex at all. It's a very strange way to live. Where do they get their thrill and their gumption from? Besides sex, there's coffee and maybe a dopamine hit from a good workout.

I just drove past my ex-fling on the highway. What are the odds kek

>>35055912
It's simpler than you're making it, but that's exceedingly common.

>when is the point where its acceptable to ask them out?
As soon as it's clear she's comfortable with you. That's it.

>I always have had this fear of it backfiring and getting a negative reaction
Do you have an actual idea of what "backfiring" or "negative reaction" means? What it would look like?
Because if you ask her out and she says no or tells you that she has a bf, etc. That is neither backfiring or a negative reaction. That's an answer to the question you asked.

The key is to respond to any and all rejection like it's no big deal. Because it's no big deal. Shrug it off, smile, maybe chat for a bit more, and then fuck off with a pleasant grin.

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How do I know if I'm in the friend zone or if she's interested when I've already been talking to a girl for a while?
I've been talking to this girl, asked her out somewhat early on, but she was just getting out of a bad relationship and needs time.

We've gotten closer and closer with deeper conversations but nothing explicitly romantic yet, she's making time for me and always seems extremely happy to see me but I'm worried I get framed as a good friend instead.

how to find women on instagram who'd be easy to slip into the DMs, do I need an actual "lived in" account for that? With pics?

>>35055414
I want a gf with big boobs so much it's unreal

>>35056141
>she was just getting out of a bad relationship and needs time.
This is sometimes an excuse and sometimes pure truth. It varies.

>How do I know if I'm in the friend zone or if she's interested when I've already been talking to a girl for a while?
This is very difficult to discern because signs vary on the preferences of the individual.

But the hallmark of being in the friendzone is if you're a confidant. If she's talking to you about her problems, that's a maybe. If she's talking to you about he ex or other men, that's a strong sign that you've been benched.

How long has it been since you asked her out? If it's been a while, there's a way to play it, essentially a sort of shit test for her. But it'd likely be the last attempt.

>>35056388
>This is sometimes an excuse and sometimes pure truth. It varies.
I'm like 95% sure it's the truth.
>If she's talking to you about he ex or other men, that's a strong sign that you've been benched.
She has talked about problems but never too deep, and only after weeks of knowing each other, and only after I opened up regarding stuff that she mirrored later.
She has never mentioned the boyfriend/ex at all until I asked her out, she went out of her way to NEVER disclose that which is why I asked her out, and never mentioned him after, the few times she has mentioned/talked about relationships is about her
>Having terrible luck with past relationships
>That a couple other men have been interested in her not long ago but also explicitly told me she paid them no mind and is not interested in them

>How long has it been since you asked her out?
About 3 weeks now.

>>35056388
>>35056398
Also, after I asked her and she told me about the breakup she was the one immediately initiating contact and finding ways for us to spend more time together.

>>35056141
>>35056402
>just getting out of a bad relationship and needs time
>initiating contact and finding ways for us to spend more time together
It sounds like she doesn't want to officially date yet, but she'd probably let you hit it if you tried

The most important thing when dating a woman is if you see her for who she is inside and what she stands for. That and be a decent human being who tries to do the honest thing.

Lust is being greedy towards a woman, but love is having experience with a woman. When you greed towards a woman that will always be lust, but the experiences tell something different.

Lust is submitting to carnal desires

Love is devoting yourself to her becoming while she does the same

Get it right, Chud

>>35056568
Yikes, I guess every man with a wife lies through his teeth when he shills his marriage/wife

marriage seems so suffocating. Is it?

What would you do with the extra money?

>>35056521
Maybe, but I don't really want to hit and run or have something casual with her.
I've grown to genuinely really like her

>>35056571
>Wow yikes I saw one man going through what is most likely a temporary rough patch in his marriage
>Guess every married couple are all liars huh

>>35056587
>anon said a few words
>that must mean his post detailed all his thoughts on the subject

>>35056587
You've obviously never seen how pissed off my dad is in a bad marriage.

>>35056141
100% friend zoned at this point, i feel like you might already know this? the correct course from this point forward is starting to move things towards a sexual direction. that means treating your conversations as if this is somebody you want to have sex with and stop having friend conversations. but since you already sort of accepted your friend zone after she turned you down it will be hard. to be honest if you start to sexualize things she may stop talking to you and i have a feeling you are afraid of that happening. but you should do it if its what you want, unless you truly just want to be her friend only.

>>35057080
>i feel like you might already know this?
The complete opposite, her behavior leads me to believe otherwise and whenever I make more direct bids she gets even closer.
For example, a week and half ago she was celebrating a work thing and was really hyped about it, got her a little gift to commemorate and she said multiple times how much it meant to her.

I'm asking to remove any doubt or chance that it might start to go that way.


I think I forgot to mention another key detail but she was the one trying to get close to me before I asked her out, she was the one that talked to me first, gave me her number, etc, and then kept escalating things after the "not yet" rejection
I think I just asked too early/too quickly and she wasn't ready at the time.

>>35057080
u guys are insanely retarded how can you give "advice" like this

When is OP going to change the title from "how to get women" to "how to get a gf" the title is so retarded.

>>35057126
not everyone wants a gf
some of us just want to bang sluts

>>35057133
Then change the title to "how to bang"

>>35057155
This is an inclusive community for both goals

>>35057094
Yeah there is such a thing as trying to move things too fast even when she shows interest, but we are talking about a woman you haven’t had sex with or even taken on a date yet. You are already buying her shit. And you are also asking if she likes you or not so you’re playing it way too safe (understandable if this is a coworker). If you like her you have to move things smoothly without seeming desperate. You talk about things moving closer but unless you are taking her out or having SEXUAL conversations I wouldn’t be so sure. Basically you need to make a move as in meeting her 1 on 1 instead of asking if she’s really interested or not, just make your move and stop wondering. Assume she is interested somewhat but that she won’t stay interested forever.

>>35057107
you didn’t post a response because you have no advice dumb fuck.

>>35056048
I saw the woman I made out with then got ghosted by in the line for immigration on the other side of the country, equally slim odds

>>35056398
>>35056402
3 weeks is neither:
A. long enough for her to really be ready to date if she wasn't before.
B. So long that it'd be weird for you to still be interested

Sounds like she's currently interested in you but, likely correctly, believes she's not ready to date.
Unfortunately, neither of you likely can guess when she'll be ready.
It's complicated.
When things are complicated, I find it best to put my cards completely on the table and let the truth guide the result. But again, I don't know if you even need to do anything yet. It's tough.

>>35056571
>Is it?
Nta
No. But life can be.

>>35057107
>>35057080
>treating your conversations as if this is somebody you want to have sex with
This part is actually really solid advice in general.

>>35057189
>You are already buying her shit. And you are also asking if she likes you or not so you’re playing it way too safe (understandable if this is a coworker).
Technically co-workers, but not in the long run, it's a short term thing where she will leave the company in a few months.
We're already meeting one on one, leaving together, talking every day, she's already been saying we should do x stuff together after she leaves and what not completely unprompted.
The gift was a non direct but still a signal, too direct might scare her off, no signal would say "he doesn't give a shit anymore"

I think she's almost there, but the friendzone danger is also there.
As for why I haven't been more direct;
1) I already asked her out not long ago, she knows how I feel, yet she keeps trying to get closer and closer despite knowing that
2) It hasn't been long enough where I don't look/feel almost predatory and desperate
3) From what I've gathered, not directly from her mouth, is that part of the problems she had was because the ex love bombed and was stringing her along, a more direct approach would risk opening that wound very quickly.


And that doesn't mean I haven't been somewhat direct and just happily became a friend, we've had multiple "quasi dates" of us walking and sitting together for long periods of time, my desire has only increased and the gift purpose was making that obvious, and like all those quasi dates and walks I suggested her, she eagerly accepted and loved it, they're just not explicitly and front loaded romantically yet because I don't want to push her into it.

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>girl at work flirts with me and then goes cold
>keep talking to her for weeks trying to figure out what went wrong stressing out about what to say and get nervous whenever I'm about to start talking
>give up and just treat her like a normal coworker

>talking to her suddenly feels effortless and she chats and banters back
ooooooooooooooh, this is what Dr. K. meant by it's good to be in the friendzone

I had a situation with a woman where I'm sure she's lying about not being interested because of all of the details leading up to her telling me she wants to be friends such as excitedly talking about when I meet her family, making gifts for my mom, comparing us to couples in movies we watched together, making out in my room and rubbing her around her crotch over her pants etc. She ended up redownloading a dating app and fucking a dude while leading me on in this time, but I believe she didn't want to date me out of fear of things not working out because of my living condition (going back to college and living with my parents while I do so in order to save money).

What might be my best course of action if I seriously can't get over her? It's been 3 months now and even when I'm talking to other women she's at the top of my mind.

Do I just straight up tell her that I think she was lying? What really is there to do here?

Even though I haven't gotten a girlfriend, I have been more and more lately able to not let people bragging about their sex life get to me. Knowing that many years down the line it all will just be memories. What matters more in life is experiencing life for yourself not forcing a memory for the sake of crowds and self-esteem, because in the end it will just be memories.

>>35056656
Zach, I haven’t been to these threads in few years. Are you still giving advice on dating while being single and depressed? Or do you have a relationship finally?

>>35057833
You let my edginess get to you too much. Go be yourself and get a hot girlfriend.

>>35057744
The best way to get over someone is to get under someone else.
Don't waste your time with women who want to play games and have some self respect.

>>35057949
Is there a way in which I can get her back, that being said? I haven't talked to her since then, but hypothetically speaking?

Not that I haven't talked to other women in the time.

>>35057955
I should note that we didn't date, but we spent nearly 3 months flirting and such, doing stuff together, spending every day talking. As much as she says she "can only see me as a friend", I think all of her actions up to that point said otherwise. Someone doesn't take 3 months to reach that sort of conclusion.

>>35056587
don't make it look like it's the other way. There's a reason half the marriages fail after 5 years. After 10 years it's almost 80%. Out of the remaining, most are probably just cruising by, meaning there is a very small percentage of actually stable, good marriages

>>35057744
>What might be my best course of action if I seriously can't get over her?
Move forward and stop thinking about her like she matters.

>Do I just straight up tell her that I think she was lying?
You want closure, finality, to really know.
You won't get it. That's not how life works. Move on.

>What really is there to do here?
Find a way to consider the matter resolved. Figure out something you can say to yourself "It doesn't matter because X." and believe it. Then keep reminding yourself of that.

The human brain consistently remembers and recalls things that are unfinished more than fully resolved things. So find a way think, feel, and believe that it is resolved without depending on her involvement at all.

>>35057955
>get her back
>hypothetically speaking?
>>35057961
>we didn't date
Nta
To get someone back, you have to had them.

It seems like one those situations where she was exploring the possibility of a casual sexual relationship with you and she got the sense that you were only interested in a relationship that she didn't want to be bothered with.
I've seen it a few times but I could be wrong.

>>35057977
>There's a reason half the marriages fail after 5 years.
You say that like there's one specific reason and you know the correct answer.

>>35058102
I think the issue is that it felt very different from the casual sexual relationships I've had with people. She told me to my face that she reciprocated my feelings at one point and dipped. She said she was afraid of losing me as a friend if it didn't work out and then afterwards added "I can only see you as a friend", which, from my experience, just doesn't add up.

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>buddy complains how he can't get a gf
>ask him how many women he tried to fuck last month (my count: 4. worked with 1, who turned out to have a bf. I guess I'm still single)
>he actually hasn't tried in years
every time
PSA: if you're waiting for signs of interest or any kind of move from women, you're gonna wait your whole life

>>35057744
> I'm sure she's lying about not being interested because of all of the details leading up to her telling me she wants to be friends

Didn’t read. Whether she’s lying or not is irrelevant. She turned you down and refusing to accept that will ensure no potential upgrades in the future. Move on.

>>35058211
you are a volcel if you arent lean and dont approach

>>35058748
You got to be careful about approaching.

>>35057411
Basically yes. In situations where you’re not getting laid the worst thing you can do is investigate/ask why not. You know where you stand so stand in it.

>>35058760
>You got to be careful about approaching
Not as much as I hear about on here.
If the woman can easily walk away, is idle, and you've got an ice breaker to say, I don't think there's anything to be careful about. After approaching, it's important to know when to smile and fuck off though.

They're women. Not crocodiles.

>>35058817
Wrong, they're bears.

Apparently what I learned from the tier list I made, a girl you have a crush on you can't go from buddy to friend then best friend. You have to literally jump from buddy to girlfriend and go from there. Which I'm like fucking shit, you mean I can't have this romantic life? And unfortunately that is true. I can't just say I want to be friends because that would be dishonest because my feelings want her, but okay then, it is what it is. It's painful you all, because I really do like her, and I'm stupid.

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I have gotten as good as I need to be with getting girls. My problem now is with relationships. You start off projecting invincibility and competence and being the type of chad who is unaffected by bullshit and effortlessly handles any adversity etcetera etcetera.

But the thing is nobody is actually transforming into chad. You are just lerning how to put yourself into that frame of mind when needed.

So when you have a gf she is going to see your mask slip and see you are a mortal man after all. But hopefully she loves you by then or something. I cant find the right way to act in a relationship. I have studied so much about game but when trying to apply the same type of logical and evolutionary psychology to relationships I get lost on how to do it. Pimps make it sound like its basically impossible. They just kind of accepted that bitches have a shelf life. Maybe thats the unfortunate truth. She is always going to become disillutioned in you and start to look at the relationship from a more transactional lense and leave you if you arent giving beta bux or serving her in other ways.

>>35059035
>So when you have a gf she is going to see your mask slip and see you are a mortal man after all. But hopefully she loves you by then or something.
Yep that is the truth of it. Though the guys that screw this up demand they be perfect all the time, the ones that don't understand that even though they work hard or try their best accept they are gonna make mistakes all the time and that is what makes them human. Look at it like how you would love your dog despite it walking into your living room with mud on its paws.

If she loves you she does not give up on you when the times are tough.

Anyone just try being direct? Approach, introduce yourself, get their name, ask for their number? How weird would this be to do in a social setting like a bar or walking around downtown?

I think im fucked. I’m 32. Had horrible luck dating. No relationships has lasted more than 6 months. My last relationship was pretty terrible and I threw in the towel. I’ve tried several times but it’s a whole bunch of logistics for coffee for little reciprocation. Haven’t really connected with people. I try to put myself out there regularly but again I feel like an alien. You sit across from someone and they’ve accomplished jack shit while you’ve done all these things with your life. I don’t know how to fix it besides to keep trying and be very cutthroat with my time. My last date was coffee and I thought it went well but I never got a text back indicating she had a good time or anything, so I stopped bothering. It wasn’t really the lost connection that disappointed me but the waste of time pissed me off. Here I’d like a relationship to actually build something but I don’t even think there’s enough time to properly date and vet someone and build a family. Also fuck the apps. I feel like my matches are purposely people I won’t connect with. Any advice?

>>35059246
its fine but you can do a lot better by having a little bit of game. Just being straightforward like this means you will only ever get girls who are significantly worse looking than you are. And your rate of them giving you thier number will probably not be too high and the rate of those who do give out their number acdtually texting back is going to be low as fuck

but yeah I have done this before and got a number from a very cute chick. Then I found out she had a baby and lost interest.

>>35055801
lol nice cope

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How do I approach the tryhard jeeta in my college class? I'm 33 and she's 22. I'm already banging other girls but I want to bang her too. Should I park my car next to hers so we're nearby when we leave? She held the door for me once but a lot of times she's left right after class and I feel like she's noticed me trying to leave at the same time as her so I can talk to her. She doesn't have social media so I cant find out if she has a boyfriend. I want to fuck her, I've fucked an Indian girl before snd it was great because it was a hatefuck. I can already tell I'd have really intense sex with this girl because shes smarter than me and it really pisses me off. She also acts really professional and she's really cocky so it'd be even more rewarding to make her submit to my cock.

It's pathetic to ask out a girl who already turned you down before, right? There's this girl who's so hot, I lose my mind every time that I see her. Part of me wants to give it another go, especially since it's been a year since she rejected me.

>>35061029
Depends on how she rejected you and how she acted afterwards.
Did she say not interested, didn't see you that way, flattered but no and so on?
Accept it and move on.

She rejected you because of x thing that might or might not clear itself later and then never used that as a wall or tried to keep space at all?
There might be a chance

>>35061059
She said she wasn't ready to be in a relationship.

>>35061087
And how did she behaved afterwards and how long ago was that?
Was she a bit colder or put any distance at all?
Or did you feel you got immediately friend zoned?

>>35061095
She seemed a bit cold. Also, she seemed to make up not being ready for a relationship on the spot.
>Ask her if she wanted to go out sometime
>She said that she had exams
>I said that I obviously meant after she was done
>She said that she would think about it
>I said okay and asked for her phone number (so she could call and tell me her response)
>She said that she's not ready for a relationship
I truthfully don't know how she feels about me. Even though she seems a bit cold around me, I might just be paranoid. She did sign a form for me when I was collecting names, but I don't know if I should read into that at all.

>>35061118
Move on

>>35061118
You basically already asked her out 3 times and got 3 different no, each one more heavy handed and clearer than the last one.
A fourth ask would be her saying she's not interested in you or doesn't see you that way, she was trying to let you off easily.

>>35061122
>>35061145
Yeah, I know. She's almost a decade younger than me too, which probably played a role in her decision. I just lose my mind every time that I see her. Still, I won't push the matter if there's no way to make it happen.

>>35061157
Honestly not really, unless she's like 18 and you're 28 age really doesn't matter that much unless it's way bigger than that.

>>35061180
She was 19 and I was 27 lmao. She only recently turned 20 (I know her mom), so it was a young 19, too.

why don’t you do the same thing your father did and play the pathetic and lame card? It worked for him with your mother, and since the girls already have low self-esteem i don't see why not? girls tend to go out with people like their fathers so the soil is ready

>>35061184
I'm 31 now and If I was 18 again I'd be jealous of you stealing my 19 year old crush because I'd be a childishly inexperienced dork. Though I'm 31 and I learned not to care anymore. It has something to do with living a different life, having different character, and having different experiences which would be too impossible for me to begin with.

>>35061194
Dad had rizz

do single mothers dream about getting married/having a wedding again? is that a good card to play against them?

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>be 6'2" broad-shouldered guy with german farmer physique
>all women find me intimidating and when they have to talk to me they either freeze up when I make eye contact or they smile at me like this.
it is fucking impossible to tell when a women initiates flirting with me because I have gotten so desensitized to this type of body language

If I text a woman, 'I want to make you my wife,' and she sees the message but doesn't block me, does that mean she liked it?

>>35062038
....wait, she has eyes in that web?

Unsure about whether to ask a girl out. She works at a restaurant and we've talked before I sit down 4 times now. She's mentioned remembering me a few times and called me smart during a conversation. I'm not sure whether to ask her out. Somedays I'll be thinking about her and thinking I need to go straight there and ask her. Other times I feel like it's not worth it and I should do something else. My question is, how should one feel when asking someone out? Is me being uncertain a sign I shouldn't/ not really into her, or am I being a pussy? I've only had 1 gf outside of highschool so I don't really know.

>>35055414
That bitch is gross btw

>>35062447
Being uncertain is simply you coming into contact with the impassable gap of language. You can either take a risk or enjoy the possibility that one day it might "work" u have two options there is NO guarantees and that is never more obvious to me then in these situations.

>>35061118
Move on she said no in a nice way three times who cares though relationships of any kind is a lot of bullshit and time and drama whether it's perfect or not, its not as simple as "I'm ugly waaaaay" it's way deeper

>>35062573
Kinda sounds like a meta answer to me. This exists anytime our actions lead to something uncertain. I guess I'll ask and see what happens

>>35062573
Also, I like the way you put it.

>>35062656
So true, everything is language and language is imprecise so yes every action contains a surplus of possibility. That's the impassable gap of language u can never be sure of anything. Period. That's what I'm talking about and that's what lacan is talking about.

I'm currently a university student and I'm unsure about how I can meet more people. My first year or so I didn't really get any attention from women, but I've since lost weight and I'm now somewhat successful with girls. I don't have a huge number of friends and I don't really like going out to bars all that much. Are there other ways I've overlooked to meeting more people, or are the only options really nightlife and clubs/classes? How effective are dating apps for someone of average height and and maybe slightly above average (6-6.5) lookswise?

Can't tell if I'm dealing with an avoidant here, but this hot and cold stuff plays with my emotions too much

the girl i've been texting multiple times a day since september, had sex with 3 times has now left me on read for the first time ever
my turn is over huh

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>I just want a man that makes me feel seen and heard

Should I go to a bar to socialize even if the scene doesn't really appeal to me? Not even necessarily in a dating context, though open to the possibility. I don't drink much, but there's not much else to do around here other than hike with groups at times that I'm unavailable.

>>35062447
The fact of the matter is, you have to take a little bit of personal responsibility and initiative to get to know someone and figure out if you like them or not. If you've had 4 short brief conversations, that's almost nothing to reference from. You seem interested/curious enough to entertain a conversation, but liking someone is something different entirely. If you are curious, you could ask to hang out in a platonic sense and see where it goes from there. Nobody said anyone had to jump directly from strangers to dating, but that's just how I operate. >>35063308
If you're both confident in your boundaries and being made to feel anxious, then do you want to remain in a situation that is making you feel that way? If they're receptive to a conversation about it, and their actions back up their words, then you're probably okay. If not, they're probably not for you, or for anyone in my opinion.

>>35063528
Sometimes you crave socialization like you crave water when you're thirsty. Don't think about the goals as much. Go out and mingle if you want, don't put special meaning on it.

If I don't ask out that girl by Thursday, I WILL end myself

>>35063528
Bars are great places to meet

>>35063781
women but it’s basically the deep end. You will get rejected quite fast if you don’t know what you’re doing.

>>35063740 #
You'll find hot women like her all the time. Besides it just is a learning experience. Though, if you do have suicidal thoughts please get proper treatment for your problems.

>>35063740
Living is dependent on asking her out, not whether she accepts. Nothing wrong. Entirely dependent on (you)
Good luck.

>>35062447
>how should one feel when asking someone out?
Interested to excited.

>Is me being uncertain a sign I shouldn't/ not really into her, or am I being a pussy?
It's a sign that you want more security in her response than you have. It's fine to want things. But be aware when you're not likely to get them. You want assurance or confirmation. You won't get it.

My advice is to ask her out *after* you have eaten and you're leaving. That way if she's not interested, you can smile, fuck off, and act perfectly normal the next time you're in there.

>>35063179
>I didn't really get any attention from women
This phrasing always bothers me. You're not seeking women's attention. You're looking for a woman to earn your attention.

Unfortunately, I am too far removed from university dating. Generally z you just have to put yourself in positions to socialize.

>are the only options really nightlife and clubs/classes?
Pretty much my experience.

>>35063784
>You will get rejected quite fast if you don’t know what you’re doing.
This is true but I was still able to learn from it.

>>35059035
It's what you chose. You chose a mask. Pretending can only go so far.

>>35060807
If you really did fuck, you'd know what to do.

>>35061194
You felt smart typing that, right? NTA, but you have had no father figure and it shows. Get the fuck out of my nerd site.

>>35063884
The only socially acceptable spots are bars and nightlife spaces. I pick some that are more for my tastes. It makes it easier because I want a reason that isn't just women. I want to actually have a good time, too.

Has anyone here tried wingman ai? Is it worth it? Will it harvest my data and sell my tinder photos to ad agencies if I ask it for help?

>>35036740
I changed my mind
This would be need behaviour and off putting
I will keep seeing her and not come off needy anymore by asking to meet all the time
And go and meet new girls in the meantime to not be that dependent on her
Because the setup like it is is actually perfect

>>35063383
Idk mane
They always say women get attached as soon as sex happens
But it seems like this is not the case everytime yeah

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Help me with a reply. I'm asking for a picture of herself.

So I ended it with this girl I was dating over a year ago because I made false assumptions about her, I had trust issues and mainly for that reason I walked away because I thought she just wanted to use me

Much later I realised I massively fucked up, after talking to her I found out my assumptions where wrong and she was really into me and now I endlessly think about her and regret that I rejected and ghosted probably the one girl for me but she moved on and is with someone else. Despite dating other girls I still cannot ger over her and it fucks me up and kills my motivation to do anything because it feels like i fucked up my one chance i was given.

How can I move on from this? Please send help anon, I thought time and other dates might heal it but it doesn’t

I Dont even know where she lives now, I have the idea of somehow finding her and convincing her to give me another chance as she chose me before

Maybe I need a shrink or something idk
Now my life is so miserable and I regret my dumb choice everday
I’ve basically told her that already but she seems happy in her current relationship

>>35064659
>How can I move on from this?
The same way you move on with all fuck ups in life: Learn your lesson and acively try to do it better next time. The neat part is, now you have emotional leverage, otherwise it would be hard to have a meaningful learning experience. Also, you realized you're fucked up in the head, so unless you fix that shit first, then "next time" will be just as bad, no matter what you tell yourself or try to learn from it.

Also don't @ me if you seriously think of getting her back or want to get her back. Move the fuck on

>>35064632
what era is this? how did you get the number of a girl without seeing her?

>>35064632
I'm Just asking the girl to send me a picture of herself I've already seen her. But she likes all this hoopla and shit testing

>>35062447
>talked before I sit down 4 times
>mentioned remembering me
>called me smart
She obviously doesn't dislike you and you can already talk to her so it's not awkward like approaching her the first time, so quit being a bitch and just ask her already

>>35064632
Wait, so this girl asked for a pic of you but wont send you one? That's very bratty and you really gotta say something to knock that attitude off of her, if you even want to continue dealing with someone like that
>>35064796
>But she likes all this hoopla and shit testing
Ok, at least you've identified that it's a shit test and you can't comply with that nonsense

I met a girl and we had a first date last saturday. I think our date was mid: there was nothing bad about it but on a second thought, I think I acted too much "like a friend" and I think I didn't make her feel anything. At the end of our date, we agreed that we sould visit a museum next time.

On monday I've sent her a message suggesting that we should go to that museum next saturday. She replied like 48h after saying "I already have plans for this weekend, so I don't want to take on too much... Let's do it another time!"
I'm torn between suggesting a new date, go back to her next month to suggest another time, or just give up (but I don't want to...)

>>35064908
>another time!
And what time is that anon??? That time is never since she didn't actually offer a different time. Your best/only move is to leave her on read and hope she has a change of feelings sometime in the future

>>35064458
>>35063383
People vary.
My best friend has an avoidant ex who literally used sex as breadcrumbing. Sex was easier for her. Cuddling in bed the day after was too intimate so she went cold.

>>35064659
>it feels like i fucked up my one chance i was given.
This is the bullshit belief that you need to shake.
If you keep yourself open to it, life will surprise you You have countless opportunities. Keep moving forward.

>>35064920
yeah probably
Another friend thinks it's not completely over bc otherwise she would have replied differently (in her message she also responded to a joke I made), or she could have specifically say no and not another time, or she could simply not answer

>>35063909
fucking retard my post already contains what you said

>>35064796
>But she likes all this hoopla and shit testing
>>35064850
>at least you've identified that it's a shit test and you can't comply with that nonsense
Unless there's a trend of "No, do this, no this, nah, do this" then that just looks like playful banter and you both seem incredibly fragile. Not every bit of friction is a shit test. Nor is every shit test inexcusable.

You're acting like immediate compliance is always more fun.

>That's very bratty
There's a reason why "bratting" is a common activity in BDSM.

>>35064908
>Let's do it another time!
The exclamation mark suggests that she *might* not be full of shit.

>>35064920
>Your best/only move is to leave her on read and hope she has a change of feelings sometime in the future
How is that a "move"? It's literally nothing.

>>35065002
I would recommend suggesting something a week or so after the previous suggestion. If she balks, flakes, or cancels on that, *then* you ask her to let you know when a good time would be and continue to engage with her but put exactly zero effort or mental energy into her until she initiates.

Sometimes people actually have conflicts and aren't bullshitting. But if a girl flakes or turns down twice you cut bait and stop putting any effort into it. What you don't do is ignore her like a pissy little bitch whose feelings are hurt.
It takes five seconds to reply to a text.

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a girl at work was shyly dropping hints at me and then got flirty after I started talking to her. She went cold and shy again after finding out how old I am (I look youthful for my age).
5 weeks later she's getting chatty with me and starting conversations all the time in a platonic, friendly tone. we talk about personal work stuff and after 4 days we already got an inside joke that makes her smile to herself when we make eye contact after something specific happens.

is it normal for a women to want to start a friendship with you after losing romantic interest?

>>35065049
this is all chasing, which is only slightly better than simping

How do you resurrect your sex life in a (10+ year) relationship after you both fixating on other priorities for too long? Both willing, but I'm not sure how to start. Feel like I don't know how to get her in the mood. I am horny often but not always enthused about the idea of sex with her, yet when we do have sex it's normally very good

I've let her lead too much also and need to step up, but I feel very awkward and don't know how to get her excited. So strange desu because if I went on a first date with someone else for sure it'd be easy to get them in the mood, so I guess it's familiarity and awkwardness? I need help

>>35065109
>this is all chasing
No, it's not. Asking a woman out is not really "chasing". If you think a bus is the bus you're waiting for and walk up to check with the driver to confirm, that's not the same thing as chasing after a bus.

I'm curious though, what kind of interaction with women would you not consider to be "chasing" and therefore unacceptable?

>>35065168
>Feel like I don't know how to get her in the mood.
That's the mistake. When things are fresh and new, you get in the mood and decide to have sex. When life has long since started getting in the way, you have to decide to have sex and the start and you get in the mood.

I recommend picking a time and start by just making out and exploring playfully and enjoying each other. Start it slow and rev each other up.

Yeah, return to third date behavior.

Where do people even meet? Im a late bloomer due to auto immune issues, now I need to inject myself somewhere but it's hard.

I need socio sexual development before I continue my studies.

>>35065245
Appreciate it. I feel like that will work sometimes and not other times - the latter may be when she needs more warming up, but how do I do that?

>>35065264
You know that "late bloomer" is just the modern way to say "retarded", right? Retarded comes from the latin "retardare", which means "to make slow" or "delay".

To be honest, people don't care about excuses/reasons why you're retarded. Could be second-hand smoke, lack of Omega 3s during pregnancy, late pregnancy, etc. The reality is you've missed some VERY important developmental milestones. And once they're missed, it's over. You can't get them back, because you were supposed to go through them at a given age while your brain was still developing and making new connections.

It's not something you can really do now. Even if you took some magic pill that doubled your intelligence or whatever, you wouldn't be able to catch up in that area.

Sorry.

>>35065082
>is it normal for a women to want to start a friendship with you after losing romantic interest?
Very. Personally I'd never be friends with a woman in this case but you do you anon.

>>35065082
Reading tone to determine romantic interest... you know you have to ask her out, right?

>>35065240
>Asking a woman out is not really "chasing"
Sure asking once isn't, but he already asked her out and she replied with a classic girl rejection that sounds good at first but is actually a generic excuse and a vague commitment so she can keep her options open. Notice how she didn't give details of what her plans are (I wonder why that is if they are both real and don't involve other men), or specifics of when she could meet again. It sounds like OP got put in the "boring, low priority/value" category after their first boring date and almost anything he does will look weak and further decrease her interest.

>It takes five seconds to reply to a text
And yet it took her a full two days

>>35065002
>it's not completely over bc otherwise she would have replied differently
Did she respond with any questions or say anything to elicit a response from you? If not I stand by my answer of no reply. The only other option I see is if there's the chance she thinks you're very physically attractive but boring you could try just asking her to come over and fuck, it would overrider her "boring" assessment even if unsuccessful

>>35055801
Thank you anon, I needed to read this. It is 100% true. Seen a big difference in my results based on how positively I am thinking. Recently have been very negative or neutral. Realized yesterday I need to do mental positivity exercises again like affirming, visualizing or being grateful. They sound gay as fuck but they actually make a difference for me in my thinking and results. How far you think you'll get is how far you will end up going in reality. Don't sleep on this anon's advice.

>>35065330
Late bloomer means that a health issue bottlenecked your development so that now you have to catch up before doing other stuff. Retarded can mean low I.Q. as well, not delay due to accident or health issues.

>>35065330
>And once they're missed, it's over. You can't get them back, because you were supposed to go through them at a given age while your brain was still developing and making new connections.

You can just lie about age

>>35065636
you can until you cant lol

Ugh, just got "looking back I don't think we're compatible"
Is it at all possible to get a long term sexual relationship without it being a committed relationship without being a 10/10 chad?
I basically only pull mids and all of them want to date me. Maybe I just have to take the approach pill.

>>35055801
No mindset for your face and height. Also can't cure autism.

>>35065330
Nta
Yeah.
I was socially retarded. That's literally the term I use to describe it. From 3rd grade to 10th grade I intentionally ignored all social rules and didn't learn them because they're arbitrary and stupid and I was already an outcast anyway so I didn't care. Then I realized I wanted a gf and being funny wasn't enough. So I learned. It took half a decade.

Missing all kinds of "milestones" doesn't fucking matter. You can't go back and do certain things but life is full of cool shit if don't roll over and give up.
Stop trying to get others to give up so you can feel better about yourself.

>>35065264
>Im a late bloomer
>now I need to inject myself somewhere but it's hard.
That's literally why I went to dorm at a university where I could have bought a car and driven to.

I wonder let's say a woman went out on vacations. We got drunk. We basically went to the beach twice. The woman got inside the beach. At last i tried to make a move on her. She wasn't touchy touchy. But later she was touching me. She said too many locals tried to kiss her. I was speaking to her woman only travel to fuck. She responded with lol fuck off. She had a bf. So i am sure she liked me. But her shields were high and i didn't want to rape her or something. Anyways i randomly wrote a message of i didn't feel love in a long time. She read that shit and only until i deleted the message she came out from her room. We kept talking. I received a message from the bf don't stalk or write to her. I told him i didn't care but that she was loyal to him. Anyways all around was there something smart in all of this. Any improvements.

>>35065561
>It sounds like OP got put in the "boring, low priority/value" category
There's a difference between it seeming like a girl is disinterested and a girl being disinterested.
It's generally a good idea to doubt your own ability to read the minds of others, anon.

>And yet it took her a full two days
That's a fair point and a legitimate concern but dating is hard enough without cutting off someone without giving them a second chance.

Again, how is doing literally nothing the better move?

Is it worth it move to nyc purely for the female aspect? Got a job offer recently.

>>35064968
>Cuddling in bed the day after was too intimate
you know this is the part that was a red flag to me with this girl
she would not make time after sex to cuddle or anything
yet, she would text daily her life updates what her coworkers were doing, her pet pictures etc

but after sex she would hurry home
or rush things

I am in my early 20s but make really fucking good money for my age (>100k out of college). Do I share or hide this fact with women I'm trying to date? I know financial stability is something women value when looking for a relationship but I also want to avoid shallow women who only want me for that quality and nothing else.

>>35066592
don't say it but live it
for example i make more money than most people my age as well
how do I display it?
my apartment is in a nice area of town
i choose restaurants near me that I like
i don't care about spending some money on nice things

Girls just always get impressed by displays of wealth rather than stating it
And subtly / tastefully displaying it

A nice mirror in your room, a nice jacket, a nice dress shirt, is worth way more than stating it outright
also your attitude, make it a no big deal type of thing, this is just who you are is also key

>>35066406
>There's a difference between it seeming like a girl is disinterested and a girl being disinterested
From the categories of High, Medium, or Low interest where is she? I think it's safe to rule out High interest based on:
1. her not reaching out to him first to let him know she had a good time so he knows to ask for a second date before making other plans
2. her extra long response time without apology
3. not prioritizing OP over other current vague "plans"
Points against her being at least Medium interest are:
1. she didn't even try to offer an actual different time that works for her
2. I'm assuming no kiss or more meaningful physical contact on the first date
3. Op himself saying the date was mid and unexciting for her
And that just leaves Low interest

>It's generally a good idea to doubt your own ability to read the minds of others
But we aren't reading her mind, just her words and actions

>without cutting off someone without giving them a second chance
She has the chance to pick up her phone and text OP anytime she likes, I never said to block her

>how is doing literally nothing the better move?
It at least doesn't signal any desperation and that you aren't valuing her more than she values you. If there's enough interest there the silence will eat her until she picks up the phone, if not then no loss. Under different circumstances where more of a connection had already been established like multiple dates or something physical then waiting a bit and asking again would be more reasonable, but I feel from experience that if OP tries to force this he's about to get ghosted or at best a very awkward and resentful second date

>>35066629
>And that just leaves Low interest
Ah. The important thing is that you found a way to feel certain that you can read the minds of others.

>But we aren't reading her mind, just her words and actions
There's a difference between what words and actions of a person seem to you to mean about their mindset and what their mindset actually is.
It's entirely possible to guess someone's mindset. It is. But you're talking with certainty.
The fact is that you don't know. Anon doesn't know. And actually trying is the only way to find out.
Doing literally nothing is almost never the best method to understand a situation.

>It at least doesn't signal any desperation
All-or-Nothing thinking is a cognitive distortion. Just because a person does literally anything, that doesn't necessarily signal desperation.

And what, precisely, is the danger of being perceived as desperate by her in this scenario? Either she's worth his time and would be happy to date him and therefore his interest wouldn't be sent as desperation, or she isn't worth his time and her perception of him is meaningless.

>If there's enough interest there the silence will eat her until she picks up the phone
That's an interesting assumption you've arrived at. How did you come by it?

>if OP tries to force this he's about to get ghosted or at best a very awkward and resentful second date
Nobody is suggesting "forcing" anything. Either she'll dodge and flake or actually go on a date. The guy expressing continued interest could even be seen as a shit test in this light.
And, in your experience, how exactly would he "force" her into a resentful second date? That's not a thing I've seen outside of farcical fiction.

The more you post, the more it sounds like biased theory crafting rather than real world experience with other human beings.

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>>35057769
cope

I met a woman and had amazing powerful sex with her last weekend. Coomed three times in under 12 hours, which included sleeping.

her ass was beautiful, and she didn't have sex in years so she was incredibly tight too.

I held the back of her head with one hand, and her waist with the other and looked her in the eyes as she professed her love for me within 5 hours of meeting her irl

When I'm painfully dying a painful death, I'm gonna recall memories and smi-ACK

ps this only happens 2-3 times a year. I only get a couple dates a year.

>>35057222
That is extraordinary. Did you guys say hi, make eye contact or anything?

>>35066592
Don't be a retard by spending it excessively, invest early and you'll be in an absolutely fantastic shape in a decade or two.

how can I leverage a friendship with a zoomette to find women my own age?

Today's the day to ask the girl out.

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>try to date other girls to move on from girl who ghosted me brutally
>every date just reminds me how great she was and how much I wish I was talking to her instead
>end up thinking about and missing her more

>>35063909
>If you really did fuck, you'd know what to do.
No, Because I did that from a dating app. I've never approached a girl IRL. Idk how to do it. If I need to talk to her a few times, or just wait til the final class or penultimate class and ask her out for coffee after a little bit of chatting.

>>35066872
Why did you have to cope telling me that. Is your relationship going fine?

>>35066872
Or maybe should I remind you that there are people far more successful in dating than you that don't go to low levels of arrogance or belittling those who fail at romance. My grandparents had an extremely successful relationship and not once in their life did they tell me that I was a beta virgin cuck incel like someone like you. You need to get a life you fucking sex addict.

I bet to you even further you have moments of regret when you pull this grandiose game on a woman, have sex, and then have to live with the fact she walked out on you and that you are in fact a very very lonely man with no friends or could even get a girlfriend. But yeah anon getting sex is great like it would be with jacking off. Though trying to succeed in life for the people who matter not people on the internet is better which your arrogant hipster mind wouldn't get.

>>35068013
>tell me that I was a beta virgin cuck incel like someone like you
where is this from?

I said cope and explained how amazing sex is

yikes

>>35068013
Your grandparents should have shamed you. They should have done so after shaming your parents for having a shit relationship

There’s this one chick who I keep seeing recently at a Resteraunt I go to and has a habit of giving me some free stuff and laughs and giggles at a lot I say, she’s very high energy I think.
Anyways, today she sneakily gave me her business card and it turns out that she works as a Masseuse, I’m not sure if this is an invitation of sorts (albeit paid but I am not complaining) or if she’s desperate for a male client.
If it matters I’d say I’m an average at best. white guy and she’s black and quite hot. I just have no idea what’s this really about because I am autistic and inexperienced with any of this.

It is important to know that despite how painful a woman's life is, they are trying their best.

>>35068235
Okay, I don't know your history itt or anything but you need to be set straight on a few damn things.

>It is important to know that despite how painful a woman's life is, they are trying their best.
What the actual FUCK are you on about?

You're reminding me of the time a white girl said to me "Don't you think black people are *beautiful*?" I didn't know what to say because, no, they're fucking people. SOME are beautiful. SOME are ugly as shit. Both inside and out.

Not every woman is trying her best! SOME women are trying their best no matter how painful their life is. SOME women have relatively painless lives and are lazy as shit.

>>35068200
It's almost entirely certain that she is just trying to get business for one job while at another. It's not impossible that she's also interested in you, but far from certain.

>>35057769
>I have been more and more lately able to not let people bragging about their sex life get to me.
This is respectable. Comparison is the theft of joy. No matter how good someone has it, someone else has it better. Enjoy your life and strive to make your life better. Ignore bragging assholes.

>Knowing that many years down the line it all will just be memories. What matters more in life is experiencing life for yourself not forcing a memory for the sake of crowds and self-esteem, because in the end it will just be memories.
This really does sound like either you're trying to cope or express sour grapes by suggesting that the bragging means they're forcing a memory for the sake of crowds or self esteem. When it just them being a dick.

Of course, it could also just mean that you're saying that you, or an anon hearing the bragging, shouldn't force a memory. And that is actually good advice. Getting sex or a gf to achieve some sort of status or whatever is entirely empty and it would feel that way.

>>35066872
>Coomed three times in under 12 hours, which included sleeping.
Cool story bro. I once climaxed in a girl about twelve times within 20 hours including four hours of dancing at a concert and several hours of sleep. Not even exaggerating.

>>35064920
Just always give the girl plausible deniability and let her save face. It prevents unecssary awkwardness and if u are genuine about it that's the number one way to potentially spark her interest again because you aren't going to say some weird shit like "you didn't respect my time" which is what incels do when they think that showing that they "respect themselves and my time is valuable" is going to be like some big maneuver when in reality you just come off as a psychopath

>>35068200
crazy idea here: call her and ask her out on a date

>dating app inbox empty
>feel inbox empty
>0 adds from my /soc/ post
>0 adds from my fetlife post
>0 adds from my reddit post
>ghosted by women after a few messages

What are some activities I can do to take my mind off my failures?

I'm thinking of making personal ads to find girls on sites similar to craiglist. My thought proccess is boomer moms will see it and offer their autistic daughters. Good idea?

>>35066629
>>35066729
>>35068316

Thank you for your insights.

For some context:
we didn't kiss, I didn't want to try because I didn't feel like we were close enough. I had some physical contact but just hands.

Also she's an apprentice in my field, so by chance we might end up working together in the future (though I don't believe that'll happen at all, since we're in different fields), and maybe she just wants to stay on good terms because of that.

Her full message:
"Hi Anon, I hope you're doing well.
I definitely won't be in the big kitchen this week because I'm swamped at work, haha, (she replies to a joke I made)
and besides, I already have plans for this weekend and don't want to take on too much... Let's do it another time!"

After giving it some thought, I think I'll suggest a new date next month. That'll give her time to reach out to me if she wants to; otherwise, it will let me make sure she doesn't want to continue.

>>35064908
Ask her out again next time you want to do something specific and think it would be cool to bring her along. Just be like, "oh I know you said you were busy but I'm going to do XYZ. Wanna come with?"

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>>35068474
skateboarding
> it goes fast and you need to focus.
> you can do it whenever you want, wherever you want.
> it's dangerous and a thrill for when you feel like beating yourself up.
> you can constantly improve at it.
> you look great.

>>35068578
Alameo, it's almost five o'clock. That's when everybody is outside walking around. Go, cold approach. Five to six the cold approach hour.

>>35064772
>>35064980
God bless you anons, thanks and will work to apply this

I don't know if the person that told me to cold approach will see this, but I applied myself and apparently:
>most will ignore you and move away
>if she's with her friend(s), they will burst into laughter
>sometimes they look at you confused trying to understand your mumbling and then politely turn you down once they get the idea
So fuck you.

>>35068279
My philosophy is just a little bit abstract. I'm not trying to be obtuse.

>>35068593
>I think I'll suggest a new date next month
Early in the month. Mid to late December can be a madhouse of scheduling.

>>35068748
kek Cold approaching is a meme. Why would a woman want to go out with a complete stranger when she chooses the bear every time?

>>35068748
Nta, but I am an experienced cold approacher
>>most will ignore you and move away
This has not been my experience outside of a few bitches.

>>if she's with her friend(s), they will burst into laughter
Well, the usual idea is to approach a girl who's idle and strike up a casual chat. It's rare to find a girl in a group that's idle as they're actively hanging out with their friends. It's easier to charm one than an entire group.

>>sometimes they look at you confused trying to understand your mumbling and then politely turn you down once they get the idea
Why are you mumbling? Did you start off trying to approve women to get a date without first getting good at chatting with strangers? That's a bit like trying to learn how to play basketball by try to sink a basket from half court.
You need to work on your fundamentals.

>>35069259
>Cold approaching is a meme. Why would a woman want to go out with a complete stranger when she chooses the bear every time?
The idea is to display that you're better than a bear. That said, I technically only ever got one date from cold approaching and it was an anomaly where I ended up chatting with her three separate times.

But nothing beats cold approaching for practice with chatting with women.

can anyone explain the feast and famine phenomenon? i am extremely bad at women but once every 2 or 3 years i meet one who is pretty cool and totally blow it. the weird thing is i always meet several more slightly less cool women around the same time. dont get anywhere with them either, but then its absolutely nothing for 2 or 3 years. is it my hair or something?

>>35063568
That sounds like a good way to think about it. Makes things calmer. I like her enough looks wise but don't know her.
>>35063871
Yeah, u right. I guess that's why I've been going every now and then and having tiny conversations like this to get a feel for things. I've considered asking her after, but my timing would have to be pretty good or I'll have to wait around awkwardly. I was planning on asking at the beginning, and if i get rejected just crack a joke about having to leave out the backdoor or something. Doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
>>35064850
I pussied out but we talked about what we're doing for school. She goes to community college. For reference, I'm 26, just finished fighting for zog and have been using my GI bill gibbs at uni. She looks 22-24 to me, but now I'm worried she's like 18 or 19. Am I tripping? I don't think she has a car bc I've seen her get dropped off.

>>35068748
this is true and there's a reason why
basically you are doing one of of the following:
>Not introducing yourself or revealing who you are
>asking too many questions
>talking to the girl before even being in her line of sight
>not moving things forward (by asking to go to cafe, asking for her number, etc)
>moving things forward too quickly
>going to the same spots repeatedly
>talking too quietly
>being too formulaic with what you say so it doesn't feel natural

these are all the things that can be fixed while cold approaching
so really it is a skill game
every approach im sure you can fix somethings

How do I get a woman as a 5'2 23yo kissless virgin ?

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Why the actual fuck would a woman never disclose that she has a bf when talking with a man man that she KNOWS is interested?
Not in casual conversation, not when talking about relationships, not when talking about how she spends her free time, what she does on weekends, what she does on her birthday, etc.

>>35070915
doesnt really matter why. shes no good and you need to move on.

>>35071223
I am, but its just bewildering how fucking evil some people can be
Yet she acts like the sweest thing in person, holy shit fuck women

>>35070915
>Why the actual fuck would a woman never disclose that she has a bf when talking with a man man that she KNOWS is interested?
Because she's still available if you're the right man

>>35071365
I think a lot of them actually believe men are interested in just talking to them. thats not really evil, only stupid.
>>35071471
monkeybranching is evil. im not interested in disloyal whores who are afraid to be single for even 15 minutes

>>35071471
Actually worse than that, she was the one making excuses for us to talk and seeking me out.

>>35070915
>>35071501
>>35071508
Is her boyfriend in your social circle? If you can contact him, let him know.

>>35071718
Nope, I have no idea who he is.
This woman basically spent a month and half chasing me while never disclosing the boyfriend in literally like 30+ possible perfect chances to do so, I only learned he exists because her FRIEND talked to me and was worried about her behavior.

I'm truly sickened, really makes you not want to talk to any foids.

>>35070915
>>35071365
>>35071508
It's entirely possible that she just withheld the information because she wanted the feeling of being pursued but never had any intention of following through. A woman can lead a guy on for attention and then act like she was completely innocent without being a disloyal whore, just a manipulative twat.

>>35071825
>I only learned he exists because her FRIEND talked to me and was worried about her behavior.
>I'm truly sickened, really makes you not want to talk to any foids.
If her friend was female this is genuinely negativity bias at work: One woman being honorable completely ignored to focus on the other.

>>35071836
I wasn't even giving her too much attention until the last week or two.
>>35071845
It was her female friend but I don't know really her, she introduced me to a couple friends and this girl was there, a week later I happened to see her again and she pulled me aside to tell me she was worried about her behavior.


And I appreciate it, but fuck am I supposed to do about it other than going scorched earth on this manipulative whore?

>>35071856
>I appreciate it, but fuck am I supposed to do about it other than going scorched earth on this manipulative whore?
...just not date her? I don't see the point in doing anything. I mean, she kinda lead you on. No big deal. Move on.

My point was that when a woman is honorable enough to report her friend's misdeeds to you, your take away shouldn't be that you don't want to talk to any foids.

What's the advice for a man in his mid 20s who doesn't have his own place, a car, and works in retail. Besides the obvious of course because he knows it already.

>>35071967
>...just not date her? I don't see the point in doing anything. I mean, she kinda lead you on. No big deal. Move on.
I misunderstood the post, but yeah.
Problem is this has happened twice this year and makes me really scared of trying anything with other women.

>>35071993
Learn to accept yourself as human. My car broke down so now I have to get rides. What sets you apart from other men is how you take responsibility not throw all hands up and give up or act like you are the shit.

Dealt with a bad break recently. Think I'm over relationships for now so what would be the best strat for getting fwbs? Last time I had fwbs was in college and it was too convenient compared to living on my own in a big city now. Height is mid by app standards (5'10), I'm about a month or two away from 12% body fat, and I improved my clothing and grooming enough to get some compliments a few times a month in public.

Will probably go to a few events around the city and focus on connecting on ig again but I need like an autistic checklist or flowchart or something

>>35072082
This whole acceptance thing sounds more like a cope. At least you have a license. I'm 26 with no license.

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>>35055414
TITS

>>35064632
ok with the thumbs up is the way to go if you dont just want to leave her on read.

>>35064908
if your first date was saturday (and it seems like you fucked it up, hope to god you tried to sleep with her but it sounds like you didnt) then why are you texting her the following Monday? Way to soon. bad game all around.

>>35065082
just assume if a woman is talking to you she wants to sleep with you, and ask her out.

>>35065911
do you kids not know the concept of plate spinning anymore?
>is it at all possible to get a long term sexual relationship without it being a committed relationship without being a 10/10 chad?
yes, but not for an unlimited amount of time. If you want that you need to spin plates, because plates break (date multiple women)

a woman I met on on fetlife is interested in meeting up, she doesnt have any pics of her face just her body. so far we've only talked about sexual stuff and we both seem into it. whats the right away to approach this?
Do I ask her for a face pic?
Do I suggest a voice/video call?
Do I meet up with her at a bar/restaurant first to see if we vibe in person?

>>35072377
>then why are you texting her the following Monday? Way to soon.
Nta
Nah.
Text calmly and deliberately when you want to. None of this rules and games bullshit. If you're measured and in control of yourself, you project dominant confidence. Obeying arbitrary bullshit for no reason other than fear of looking bad is itself a bad look.

Texting like an excited lovesick puppy is worse though.

>>35072395
>you need to spin plates, because plates break (date multiple women)
Nta but I had assumed that with online dating being what it is, every guy was doing this (or trying to do this).

My friend said he keeps meeting girls that expect guys to only ever be *talking* to one girl at a time, which is insanely delusional.
I was messaging 8 girls a day and getting a few responses a week.

>>35072410
>Do I ask her for a face pic?
This only seems classy if you do it after you agree to meet up. If you're meeting up, you need to know what she looks like. If you ask before making the plans, it has the connotation of "lemme see if you're pretty enough". Which is valid but hardly endearing.

>Do I suggest a voice/video call?
Seems perfectly reasonable. You have to protect yourself from catfishing which, if you think about it, is a compliment to her whether or not she sees it that way.

>Do I meet up with her at a bar/restaurant first to see if we vibe in person?
Meeting for drinks or something light first is definitely a good idea. Kind of like a two person munch.

I just matched with a girl who's really attractive and is my type. She doesn't have much on her profile, but she has this 2 truths and a lie prompt.
I basically said hi, and then that the two truths sound like they could be a story I'd like to listen to. Is this too basic? I'm on the spectrum, if that matters.

>>35055414
How much money should I spend on a date?

>>35073568
Hard to answer without knowing where you live or what financial situation you're in, but ideally something mid-range for a first date and beyond that if its a second or third date.
Basically don't take your date to Five Guys or Buffalo Wild Wings on a first date, but also don't go to a place where it's $50 per plate.

>>35073385
Yeah, ask about it. Could be a decent conversation starter, and then let the conversation flow from there.

Dating apps are hard to get to know people on, so you really gotta make do with what's on their profile. You're doing good and hopefully she responds positively.

Going to a cosplay party that got posted here a while ago. Any tips on escalation bros? I can spend the whole night chatting with a girl, flirting, get her contacts or whatever, but I keep struggling with passing that line into sexual territory.

>>35073634
Because youre scared to touch them. You still have too much respect for them. You have to invade their personal space, but slowly. If they don't reject a hand on their shoulder, a hand on their thigh, a playful push or even a "smell my cologne does it come off like I'm an old man?" And she willingly sticks her nose into your chest, then you're good to turn up the dial and eventually go for a kiss. You are still waiting for "permission" to start acting sexual and you cope by thinking being a gentleman and getting her number and waiting 3 days instead of being that guy making out with a hot slut in the smoking section of the bar. Again, this is only after you've established attraction. This could look really cringey and I'm sure some fucking loser who gets no pussy is going to want to critique my advice like I'm a creeper but like I give a shit. I have fucked way too many women to be wrong. The thing about getting her number and then waiting is that the iron gets cold and you need to strike while it's hot. If she likes you, guaranteed at worst she'll ask you to slow it down or say like let's at least finish our drinks first and then we'll talk. Even then, after you get through that gate it opens up the real risk... Going for a kiss or grabbing her ass slightly, getting her to sit on your lap or start making "I wanna fuck faces" and THEN you start picking up bitches and fucking them the same night.

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>>35065082
she just told me she has a boyfriend lol

peeing on a random hot girl's leg has worked 5 out of 5 times for me so far. I always do it at the same place, on this old main street type strip with restaurants & cafes.

>>35073696
All of this sounds similar to getting things going in a private setting, like fucking a friend. I'm good at that, but something about the club/bar setting has me nervous. I've done the back or arm touching but never gone for anything more. I'll lock in tonight. Thanks for the tips.

>>35073705
My condolences. Ay bro, as the saying goes: "suffering builds character".

Approaching 30, never had a real gf.
Been on Tinder on and off past ten years, never any real luck until last year when I lowered my standards and started being pushy (at least that's how I feel). Made a fuck buddy relationship with a chubby borderline girl until she stood me up repeatedly and I couldn't be bothered with her anymore and blocked her number.
I kept my standards low and met with women I knew I wasn't interested in long term, found another one who let me fuck her 30 minutes after meeting me at her place. She felt compelled to tell me about her body count afterwards which was obviously high. We met a couple of times over a few weeks until she suddenly found someone else worthy a real relationship and didn't want to see me any more.
A few months pass again and on my desperate hunt I end up in an apartment stenched with cat shit and trash on every surface fucking some fatty after getting her McDonald's. Just to get some.
My point is no woman takes me seriously. I want to make a real relationship. I want to go on an actual date. I did manage to do that once, with a very nice, respectable girl. She responded "it was nice meeting you" to my "I hope to see you again" and that was that. I don't know what I am doing wrong that is so repellant. I'm starting to think I am just that undesirable. I have plenty male friends, I'm not great socially but I'm not autistic. I just don't get it.

>>35073906
You're not undesirable if you can get women. Just not the women you want

>>35073913
>You're not poor if you can earn pennies, just not the dollars you want.

They would have fucked anyone. And they did, I was just in line.
And that is kind of my point, I don't get them. Repeatedly I see the same pattern, no matter how the status of these women, no one wants to keep me around. But the desperate ones let me fuck them first. The girls i want just end up friend zoning me to oblivion. I'm just trying to figure out why that is and I don't know how. Am I too ugly? Boring? Broke? Awkward? How do I figure out what I am missing?

>>35073939
What about fucking your butt with a dildo? Get good at it, have fun with it, drink wine. Then once you're comfortable start buttfucking yourself on Tinder, etc and you'll get girls - multiple within the first week

>>35073947
Are you seriously butthurt over the fact I fucked some white trash fatty in her cat shit apartment and you feel you are incapable of the same?

>>35073939
Boring. The answer to these questions is always boring. Women are children and need to be constantly entertained.

>>35073939
What about yourself do you think is great and worth respecting?

>>35073939
"Personality" is extremely subtle. You are not telling enough about yourself for us to make heads or tails about it. I'm guessing you're some combination of ye olde bitter, needy, cruel, low iq etc. typical off-putters.

>>35073939
in order to be a good romantic partner you need to be living a good life and you want to share a slice of what you enjoy with someone else. What are these women getting by being with you?

>have a friend/coworker that recently came out of a relationship
>had suggested hanging out but found out she had a "friend/hookup" at the time
>still very friendly, she rarely mentions the guy, maintains she's a single woman
>i recently dated someone, that ended
>before it ended, friend had told me she realized what I was asking about us hanging out, told me there was nothing to be sorry for by asking her, and said her head wasn't in the right place
>since this girl I dated has ended, friend has been hugging me a lot, has told me we need to grab food when we're off, and finding reasons to spend time around me
>hugs are long, cheek to cheek touching, always initiated by her
>has suggested I come and eat with her for thanksgiving
>the guy isn't going to be there

I don't want to ruin a friendship, and I took the previous time I asked to hang as a rejection. I do really like her though.

>>35071993

Work on getting promotions in retail, get a car, go from there. Know plenty of people without places that have girlfriends. Economy is different, lots of people are sharing housing. It's not a big deal for someone of that age.

>>35072243

I don't do FWBs anymore but older women were easy and to the point. Tinder sucks, Facebook dating has some potential, getting out places like bars is old fashioned but works. I can't do the IG shit.

>>35072410

You could see if she uses her profile name on other websites. Or just go for it. For Fetlife, she's trusting you to be you as much as you're trusting her to be her. Guaranteed she wants to have sex, so sounds like you want to as well. Don't worry about her face; focus on getting a hotel room lol. The worst I ever had on fetlife was a woman telling me she was married only after we did it two different times, but they were separated.

>>35073568

Last girl I dated I think I spent too much (we're talking 50-75 per date) and I think this was part of the reason she quit talking to me. Weird, yes, but she wasn't used to it. So the type of woman you're going with is important to determine pricing.

FWIW, my child's mother and I, our first date was at IHOP. We needed something casual on a weekend before work. I've also used Longhorn, independent places, and once a Zaxbys just because we got done so late that nothing else was open. If she likes you she's not going to give a crap.

The right woman does not give up on you. She has to literally be your queen no matter what. If she stands by you for only shits and giggles it ain't worth it. A real woman who loves you would open up she loves. She would go out of her way. She would make it obvious. Most of all she would not be afraid.

>>35074270
Sounds like a woman with bigger balls than all the guys itt

Always ask on your first date if she knows who FDR is. Will save you a lot of trouble

>>35073906
Any good girl you would actually want to date would not be on the dating apps. It's not a you problem

>>35073906
>She responded "it was nice meeting you" to my "I hope to see you again" and that was that
That sounds more ambiguous than actually negative to me? I guess I would have asked for a second date just to be sure

>>35073939
>Am I too ugly? Boring? Broke? Awkward? How do I figure out what I am missing?
Desperate for one since you have such low self respect to fuck fat crazy bitches with bad hygiene. I don't believe stats are everything like some incels, but lets see yours so we know what your working with? Job, height, weight, bf%, location?

>>35074219
>told me there was nothing to be sorry for by asking her, and said her head wasn't in the right place
This and everything that follows seems like her trying to be closer, which is not the same thing as taking back the rejection.
It's the kind of thing where I would just mention in conversation that I sometimes completely miss women's hints and I feel like I need a woman to be overly direct or spell it out explicitly sometimes, maybe sharing a funny story about it. After that, I would take no explicit response as a response.

>>35074219
>I took the previous time I asked to hang as a rejection
ok? but it certainly seems like it was just situational and she's available now, trying to get close to you, and even asking you out? just accept her invitation and see where things go

>>35074797
>Hello ma'am, I have autism and need you to be the man in the relationship, would you like to date a special little boy?

>>35074490
don't reply to ZachGPT

if a woman threatens to report you to police for harassment does that mean shes playing hard to get or she genuinely wants you to stop messaging her?

>>35074866
post screenshots

>>35072377
Of course not—I didn't try to sleep with her; it just wasn't the right moment at all. The conversations revolved too much around “trivial” topics, she didn’t show enough signs of interest, and there was too little physical contact. Plus, it was the first time we’d met. I preferred to take my time rather than rush things, risk her rejecting me, and have it all end.
Obviously, I would have tried harder if the opportunity had presented itself.

Honestly, I don’t see what’s wrong with texting her two days after the date.

>>35074944
the messages are not in english and i dont want to get doxxed

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>>35074866
Well Shirley, unless getting threatened to be reported to the police is behavior you're looking for in a partner, it doesn't matter, move on.

>>35074840
>need you to be the man in the relationship, would you like to date a special little boy?
Pretty much every woman has experience with a guy being ridiculously clueless. You can make fun but a guy pointing out that he lacks understanding is better than letting the woman guess and make assumptions while he, with his lack of understanding and experience, tries to be clever.

>>35074951
>Of course not—I didn't try to sleep with her; it just wasn't the right moment at all.
I think I understand the general idea that was going for:

Some advice for guy who kept failing as a supportive guy and wanted to act like the jerks he saw getting laid:

NO.
Those guys are acting the way they act.
You would be acting like how you perceive those guys act to the best of your ability to act like someone who you are not, in a specific manner, while simultaneously trying to get to know a girl and respond with natural attraction.
Do you see the difference?

Putting on an act and pretending to be someone else is a bad idea.
The problem, I guess, is the supportiveness. Withhold your supportive nature until she is hooked. Don't tell her about you being supportive of other womeneither. (Being supportive of weaker beings that aren't her peers is actually a really good thing)
If she sees you will support anyone, she isn't special. If a person doesn't need to work for the reward (your support) it *feels* less valuable. That's a human nature thing and partly why hazing is done. You want her to feel like *she* can get your attention and support, if she puts in a little effort.

You want to fuck her.
That isn't a question. You may be perfectly willing to match her enthusiasm and pace but you are always pushing the edge for a little more because you want to fuck her.
You can be polite, kind, and gentle, but as you politely sit next to her as she tells you about her family you want to fuck her.
You always want to fuck her.
When you kiss her, you want to keep on kissing her. You want to fuck her at the end of the first date. You want to fuck her at the *beginning* of the first date.
You don't try to, because you respect her. But you push for it.
You push closer. You touch her. You inch closer to her mouth. You can't fuck her right then, but you want to fuck her.

Waiting until she greenlights you to show her how much you desire her is backwards.
Hungry men get fed.

>>35075244
>Pretty much every woman has experience with a guy being ridiculously clueless
Sure, all guys miss some clues sometimes, and it's fine to tell her you're a bit retarded or inexperienced or whatever and hope she's less subtle in the future, I just think it can give some girls the ick to expect them to lead and be direct more than they're comfortable with, like I'm pretty sure the girl in this situation already thinks she's being direct and obvious.

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>>35075397
>I just think it can give some girls the ick to expect them to lead and be direct more than they're comfortable with
That's fair. And solution is to be more confident, capable, and dominant in other areas and aspects.

>I'm pretty sure the girl in this situation already thinks she's being direct and obvious.
EVERY girl thinks she's being direct and obvious.

>>35074219
eh i guess she was just fucking with me. i sent her a response yesterday about plans and its been nearly 24 hours and she hasnt responded. i need to stop getting my hopes up

>>35075519
just chill nigga

>>35074866
You are based regardless

I currently live with my parents. I have a well paying job and a car and all that stuff but my parents offered to let me stay at home for at least a year to save money especially with the current economy. (im in my early 20s btw.) The problem is I feel like this has made dating more difficult for a couple reasons -

1. There's the stigma around living with your parents even if you're financially independent.
2. My parents, despite knowing I am an adult, tend to be nosy people and trying to go on dates and invite a girl over and stuff feels like it would go very poorly.

Should I just put off dating and focus on myself until I move out in like 6-10 months? How should I approach this situation?

>>35075250
I get what you mean, thanks for the advice, I'll keep that in mind for the next girl

However, what I'm thinking about right now is still that girl

>>35075763
>Should I just put off dating and focus on myself until I move out in like 6-10 months? How should I approach this situation?
I put off dating while I was bankrupt and I regret it. It's not an ideal situation. Things might get awkward. It might go poorly.
Yes.
Try it anyway and live life.

>>35075814
>what I'm thinking about right now is still that girl
I still don't think she's a lost cause. I would say the outlook is not good, not that it's over.

But man, think about more than one girl at a time.

>>35075585
whats the point of a weekend hang out if shes going to ghost me all weekend?

>>35075763
having a concrete future plan and a valid reason to live at home makes women go from being disgusted with you to politely declining you with genuine empathy.

sorry bro

Would the majority of women break up with a guy if they found out he was in a psych ward at 13, 20, and relatively recently? My family just pushes me to go to a psych ward whenever I am depressed or having a panic attack. I learned to control panic attacks, but am depressed as I just realized my psych ward history makes me undateable. It was normalized by my family and I just saw them as like vacations to chill out, but I'll never go again.

>>35076697
Not necessarily break up but it'd definitely be a red flag and might prevent them from dating you initially.

It's like if you dated a girl, has sex with her, found out she was a hooker, broke up with her, and now you've had sex with a hooker. It has a reasonable explanation but the girl needs to already be invested enough to hear you out.

>>35076697
No dude women think they can literally fix a man with their love and attention. I just personally wouldn't bring it up on the first date.

>>35070886
get fit (low bf and at least 1yr of weight training), wear 3 inch insoles with boots
and charisma max - be extraverted and outgoing
works for me

note: you won't get pretty girls

Reminder that there is nothing stopping you from using ChatGPT to make top tier dating profile photos using your face to add to your tinder profile, and you don't need to hire a photographer or learn how to take good photos of yourself anymore

>>35071501
>I think a lot of them actually believe men are interested in just talking to them. thats not really evil, only stupid
They believe other men are interested in them as people and not romantically only.

You can ask them if they have a bf. Not play women games of guessing based on context clues

>>35077272
I have a photographer for my photos. Human is still superior today.
Still using ai photos for privacy

>>35076697
>if they found out
why would they find out?

>>35077285
>Still using ai photos for privacy
what does that even mean?

>>35070886
Do not listen to this guy:>>35077250
He's full of shit and only talking the way he does because girls latch on to him easy. Thing is though if he was on this site he wouldn't have issues keeping women. Stop having rose colored glasses about people's sex lives. It's like having money, some people are dirt poor while others are filthy rich. Next time you encounter someone who brags about their sex life to you, ignore them, and especially ignore them if they start insulting your sexuality. Here is a catch though if they get off on you being a cuck to their life, they're kinda gay.

>>35074854
I think this anon has a crush on me.

>>35077278
one does not simply ask a woman if she has a bf. lunatic

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>>35077278
>They believe other men are interested in them as people and not romantically only.
>You can ask them if they have a bf. Not play women games of guessing based on context clues


I thought it was basically guaranteed that a woman would mention a bf at some point when talking to a man?
Like in what universe does a woman with a good, happy relationship avoids mentioning her partner when talking to another man for months?

>>35077809
>one does not simply ask a woman if she has a bf
Why not? I don't usually personally because I don't really care what their situation is and let her actions speak for themselves, but I think it's fine to ask if you feel you need to know, girls certainly ask if you have a gf if they're interested

>>35077891
You shouldn't ask a woman if she has a man. That puts her in the driver seat of a confirmed shut down. Letting her tell you on her own gives you a bit more wiggle room cause you can combat it or downplay it. You can't really do that if you're the one bringing it up.

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>>35055414
Womens. If you are not thick like this, you are not attractive to real men. Stop trying to lose weight and start gaining weight. I need something I can grab. I need boobs, butt, long hair. This why I’m not gay. Because men don’t have boobs or a vagina. The skinnier you are, the more manly you are. Guys don’t want that. Gain weight, be girly and don’t ever in life grow armpit hair unless you want guys to hate you. Bodily hair on women repels men.

>>35077717
>Thing is though if he was on this site he wouldn't have issues keeping women
correct
issues getting with women who i find very attractive
but girls who find me attractive because i'm fit and charismatic tend to be uglier than i would like

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The game is over, as I am fond of saying.

The women won. They are in control of the eugenics program and the multi-trillion-dollar pussy reward system — a highly symbolic fertility ritual. But they are in control of much more than the reproductive apparatus. They control not only the men and government of the United States of America but through the power of pussy and the susceptibility of men and government officials, fiat currency manipulation by the Witches of Fiat Currency at the Federal Reserve System, a large army of simps and "backers" (this is a technically incorrect use of the term) who are fighting to maintain control of the Frankenstein monster they created called Onlyfans (in a war I fear we are going to lose), and even the Republican form of government they created which inevitably—and I would argue by design—fosters centralized female matrilineal control and assures only a handful of "pre-selected" men must be sacralized to control an entire country, they control the entire world.

Question to Chads ITT: Do you ever actually suffer in your day to day life, or is everything smooth sailing?

Asking here since this is the Chad central on 4channel dot org.

>>35077893
>That puts her in the driver seat of a confirmed shut down.
Golly gee, that sounds downright terrifying.

>Letting her tell you on her own gives you a bit more wiggle room cause you can combat it or downplay it. You can't really do that if you're the one bringing it up.
It sounds like you're suggesting that not trying to fuck a girl with a bf makes you a lunatic. Or that not trying to fuck a girl who is lying to you about having a bf is lunacy.

This is kind of the mindset of a guy who thinks he has to trick, convince, or compel a girl into liking him enough to get past her defenses. Instead of, you know, actually being likeable.

>>35077811
>Like in what universe does a woman with a good, happy relationship avoids mentioning her partner when talking to another man for months?
Technically not mutually exclusive with a girl who flirts for attention but very unlikely.
I have seen this happen though. She was just private and shy about her personal life. But she was also incredibly G rated and friendly, not flirty at all. Hugged everyone.

For the most part, you're right.

>>35078208
Everyone's pain is as real to them as your pain is to you.

That's one of the things I figured out long ago.

>6 months ago
>met the best woman
>beautiful, intelligent, spoke english, interesting
>many beautiful moments together
>but she's 7 years older than me
>I want children
>she's indifferent and her biological clock is running out
>this gives me great doubt
>she senses this and demands more affection
>sense contempt and take that as a red flag
>I call it off
>2 weeks ago I texted her something and she told me she is happy in amother relationship
>dream of her tonight
>gasping for air