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I feel very conflicted about my brother right now. We come from a conservative family, and I am very conservative myself. My brother has been getting more and more left-wing. He has stopped going to church but still identifies as Christian, and occasionally tries to talk about politics around me. He doesn't know much and gets flustered. Well anyway, he texted me last night to gloat about democrats winning the election even though I already knew that was going to happen because republicans keep screwing up. Well anyway, we got to texting about it, and I finally brought up the topic of Charlie Kirk. The fact is that I have avoided mentioning Charlie Kirk around him for over a year now because I was afraid to know what he'd say. Well, it was your typical libtard "I'm against murder, but he wasn't a good person." And he knows that his views were very similar to mine.

Now, I already knew this was how he felt really, but now I have it all spelled out. And now I'm not sure what to do. This man, who I agreed with on most subjects, was killed, and my own brother can't say it's bad he was killed without adding that he was racist and he didn't care that kids died in school shootings. And since I share Charlie's views, I suppose that logically means he thinks the same of me. And now I'm not sure if I want to hang out with him anymore. I still love him, I'm not sitting here seething with hatred, but he literally said that half the country, the half I'm in, is "racist, terrible people", and I'm supposed to invite him back into my home to watch TV and play cards?

I don't think he hates me, but if there was a clone of me that's exactly like me that didn't happen to be his brother, I think he'd hate me. I just don't know how to feel. Help?
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Could try being a better person
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>>35066644
Just to add, it hurts because since our family moved across the country quite a few years ago now, I've never really been able to make friends. My coworkers aren't my age and they're not my kind of people. He's kind of the only friend I have. But when you hear your own brother basically saying "I'm not saying he deserved to die, but he was a horrible person because he was just like you," then it's like, I don't know. I don't feel comfortable with it. One thing this has shown me is that I really need some good friends to spend time with.
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>>35066644
Charlie Kirk chose to spend his entire life sowing hate and division, shilling for the Epstein class. No, your brother shouldn't be sorry he's dead.
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>>35066684
Okay so you're the kind of person I would not invite over to hang out and play Super Smash Bros. But he's my brother so there's a conundrum.
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>>35066644
Fuck Kirk. Conservatives are incompetent and it sounds like your brother wised up.
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>>35066691
The feeling is mutual, anon. MAGA and the American right have shown themselves to be complete sociopaths. There is no point in associating with monsters who lack empathy.
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>>35066705
Okay. You're not really giving me advice though so I'd like other people to chime in now.
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>>35066644
Hey, at least he didn't celebrate.
It still sucks that he has the very common leftist viewpoint of thinking the only way to disagree with him is by having character defects, but he's probably compartmentalizing a fair amount. While he's motivated to assume the worst in strangers, him personally knowing you--and that you're not whatever caricature of le evil conservative he has in mind--likely counts for something.

>>35066684
>my billionaire pedophiles are better than your billionaire pedophiles
Having a party preference =/= endorsing everything they do.
And disagreeing with modern leftist social stances in the most milquetoast manner imaginable, literally just Reagan-era social conservatism, is not "sowing hate and division" in any meaningful sense, and if that's all it takes to not give a shit about political murder, it only shows how stupid he was for trying to talk things out.
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>>35066716
>Bro both sides are equally bad, please ignore fucking over energy policy, starting pointless wars in the middle east, ONE SIDED pedophilia, blatant financial corruption of the current administration, diverting PPE away from blue states during covid, etc
Fuck you. You're in a cult and you can't see it. The DNC is a wider spread party with some corrupt members, unquestionably, but that is ONLY BECAUSE the fucking alternative is a cult that exists to enrich the Epstein class and hates black people. I am so sick of sometimes having to vote for Medicare candidates because the alternative is some religious fruitcake bought and paid for to tear down labor laws.
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>>35066716
>Hey, at least he didn't celebrate.
I guess that's true. He did say Charlie was racist and he didn't care to stop gun violence, and I told him that I agreed with everything I ever heard Charlie say about race and guns. I wanted him to know that as clearly as possible.
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>>35066738
There's been a hole in the world ever since Charlie died. You could fill that hole. You could say the things he said. You could travel around this great nation saying the things that people want to hear. I believe in you, bro.
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>>35066644
I’ve studied radical politics, and I find it overwhelmingly retarded that the American left views Charlie Kirk as the coming of the Antichrist when his views were predominantly moderate and didn’t stray far from mainstream Republican takes. Nevertheless, I think it wouldn’t hurt to talk to him about it and help him strengthen his religious commitment if you think he’s reached a point of definitive apostasy. If you truly want to help him see the flaw in his political rationale, try to talk to him calmly and thoroughly, but don’t blame yourself if you can’t get him to change his mind. This, however, shouldn’t stop you at all from spending time with him and continuing to support him no matter what. He's part of your family, so don't be an autist and help him get through whatever he's going through.

>>35066684
>>35066696
Kill yourself.
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>>35066746
>the American left views Charlie Kirk as the coming of the Antichrist
Find me someone who says this.
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>>35066746
I think that they are just trying to convince themselves that he was Hitler II to justify how happy they were to see a conservative get murdered.
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>>35066753
You are intellectually disabled and you should take a shotgun and blow your retarded brains out in the squalid room you terminally live in like the low-life retard that you are.
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>>35066736
You dolt, I literally just said that just because someone is on the "other side" from you in social values, it *doesn't* mean they disagree with you on everything (or that they are in lockstep with whatever caricature of The Right you have in mind). If you think anyone who disagrees with you necessarily loves gargling billionaire cock and masturbates to starving children, YOU are the cultist.
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>>35066766
>they don't kill you because you're a Nazi; they call you a Nazi so they can kill you
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>>35066746
>I think it wouldn’t hurt to talk to him about it and help him strengthen his religious commitment if you think he’s reached a point of definitive apostasy.
It's getting very close sadly.

>If you truly want to help him see the flaw in his political rationale, try to talk to him calmly and thoroughly, but don’t blame yourself if you can’t get him to change his mind.
I asked him tonight what specific gun control laws he thinks we should have that would prevent school shootings. He gave me the regular stuff, background checks, bans on certain kinds of guns. I told him that we already have these things and school shootings still happen. Then he said something about mental health but he didn't want to argue about it because "he's sure I wouldn't listen because of my ideology"

>This, however, shouldn’t stop you at all from spending time with him and continuing to support him no matter what. He's part of your family, so don't be an autist and help him get through whatever he's going through.
I guess you're right. He is family and always will be. I would never be close friends with someone who is the way he is now, but I guess the rules are different when it's your brother. I do think I need some friends who share my values though. I should work on that.
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>This man, who I agreed with on most subjects, was killed, and my own brother can't say it's bad he was killed without adding that he was racist
Why? Its like trying to stop someone mentioning that epstein or trump are pedo weirdos. They are. Or that Blippy has a poop video out there and now has kid content. Vince Macmahon likes BBC and Grey has liked many a toilets no matter how unfazed and past that she is.
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>>35066656
>>35066705
>>35066736

Hey niglet, kys
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>>35066644
as a left-wing democratic voter, I was appalled by the Charlie Kirk shooting, I don't think that was a good thing because it was quite literally senseless violence. It was against everything we stand for, including private citizen gun ownership, which we want abolished. While if he was "a bad person" that doesn't excuse murder, because many people hold far more extreme viewpoints, and they run in the government, such as Pete Hegseth, who quite literally ordered drone strikes on innocent civilians. Those people are pure evil, I wouldn't call Kirk evil, and what happened to him was tragic. It's not only cost his life, but the life of the gunman too, who will likely either be in bars forever or die to a firing squad.
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>>35066785
I have a transgender brother, and I know exactly what you're going through. Although I believe that transgender people suffer from a mental illness and need specialized care, he is still a flesh-and-blood human being who deserves all the respect and love he is entitled to, regardless of the fact that I completely disagree with the path he has chosen. You simply have to stay strong and hold on to your values from any outlook, even within your own family. That said, I do not rule out the possibility that we have a duty to combat the destructive ideologies that have taken root throughout the Western world and have tarnished every form of traditional identity, but we must show a certain degree of generosity and support toward those among us who are influenced by harmful views and lifestyles. There is no other way.

Also, I believe that gun control laws will not put an end to mass shootings or mass casualty events in general. Murderers will use cars, knives, and bombs to carry out whatever illegal acts they set out to commit, regardless of the circumstances. China is a notable example in this regard. Banning civilians from carrying firearms will only allow criminals to obtain weapons on their own and commit crime without encountering any resistance—as we have seen was not the case in the recent mass shootings in Idaho and Oregon. Repealing the Second Amendment and any right to self-defense solely because of lone wolf mass shootings—which are not on the same level as gang crime—will not prevent us, as a culture, from continuing to produce psychopaths.

The problem is spiritual.
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>>35066715
I’m somebody else. Fix your heart or die.
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>>35067005
Man, if my brother trooned out, that would be the end. I can't stand to look at those people. You're stronger than me. I desperately need some likeminded friends who I can talk to and be myself with. I need to put myself out more. Maybe start going to a small group with people from my church or something.
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He's been turned into a self-hating, television programmed retard and will make an AI bot imitate you and "forgive" the immigrant or career criminal that would murder you.

Anyone who honestly thinks charlie kirk was a racist or parrots that stupid "he wanted kids to die" shit unquestioningly, is not a human capable of critical thinking. I never watched the guy til he got murdered and I did the basic human due diligence to actually look at what he said. Anybody unwilling to do that isn't a rational human.

You're gonna have to get used to the fact that society is being polarized deliberately and retards like your brother are going to support people who want to end your society violently. Prepare accordingly and don't trust him around children.
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>>35067241
It wasn't easy for me to accept the fact that my brother is transgender. When I found a trans pride flag hanging on one of the walls in his room, I felt a deep sense of revulsion and the urge to grab it and set it on fire (which I did shortly afterward). My father made me reconsider the stance I’d taken on the matter, and I simply began to set aside some of the aversion I felt at the time. It takes a bit of strength to face experiences like this, especially when you’ve been unconditionally anti-LGBT for much of your political upbringing and then discover that this depravity has crept into your own home. My brother hasn't resorted to self-mutilation yet, and I hope he never goes that far.

Yeah, I strongly recommend that you start building stronger social ties with the church you attend if you're looking for like-minded people. You could expand your social circle at your school; there might be a conservative club if you’re in college. Meeting other people at political events or spending time in conservative spaces on certain social media platforms and messaging apps would also help. Just do whatever it takes to put yourself out more often.
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>>35066644
Don't be racist and don't be apathetic to children dying in school shootings and you should be fine with your brother.
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>>35067423
Wrong site, brown tranny
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wow what a civilised thread. telling everyone to kill themselves who does not agree with your views isnt making your side look good.

anyway, to actually address op, i am in a similar situation where i am from a family that is politically left wing and my brother has been radicalizing himself over the past years and now identifies as a christian white supremacist. it was already hard spending time with him before, but now it is even worse, he gets constantly triggered and starts raving about all the minorities and politics he hates. it makes it really hard to spend time with him, i try to ignore his comments, but after a while i just cant stand it being constantly bombarded with the utter most retarded racist shit. i dont talk nearly that much about politics. i have my views and i have what i believe in, but i dont get constantly triggered and complain about minorities and for him it has become such a big part of his identify, and he always feels justified. it also gives him a sense of belonging and accomplishment. anyway, your best action is to avoid politics at all cost if you want to spend time with him. talking about politics will only lead to fights. that's something you both have to agree on. otherwise it will only lead to alienate your relationship further. you just have to accept who he is.
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>>35066644
>/pol/tard made politics his entire life and no longer understands how to interact with normal people, even his own family members, who don't share his extremist politics
You'd be doing your brother a favor by staying away from him. If you can't interact with people unless they're also extreme right wing "Christian" larpers then you might as well just give up on having any real world social contacts because people like you are an tiny minority.
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>>35066644
>own brother can't say it's bad he was killed without adding that he was racist
Charlie Kirk was a racist. Don't be bringing him up in front of anyone who doesn't like racists
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>>35067450
>>35067441

Die nigger
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>>35066679
>i've never been able to make friends, my brother is my only friend, and I think I need to stop talking to him because he voted for a democrat
You almost start to feel bad for these people until you remember what pieces of shit they are.

>>35067454
Thanks for illustrating my point, lil bro. You don't have any friends and even your own family doesn't like you and it's all because you let yourself become radicalized by internet racists. If you had any capacity for self-reflection you'd realize that you and your internet friends advocate for such bitter and hateful political ideologies because you're unhappy, lonely people. It's truly a shame that this is the way you've decided to cope with that fact.
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>>35067450
the systemic racism thing comes up a lot in discussions, with people on the right claiming that there is no such thing as systemic racism. some more news has a pretty interesting video on the topic where they explain the history of systemic racism and how it still affects people today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4ciwjHVHYg

i think a lot of the shortsightedness of racism also comes from not understanding the correlation between starting from a disadvantage in society, being poor, having supbar education and crime. a lot of what the justice system does, is disproportionally punishing poor people, thus forcing them into a life of crime. but racists completely ignore all of those things, and somehow come to the conclusion that it's related to someone's skin color. and then they vote for rich politicians, that go against their own interests, because they tell them that the biggest problem they have in their lives is other poor people, while at the same time making the rich even richer and the poor even poorer. the problem with democrats is, that they are barely left wing anyway.
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>>35067454
I'm white, and a serious Christian. I'm a lot like Charlie Kirk other than I'm very handsome. I have three loved ones that openly went on FB to say they were sad Kirk was dead, one a beloved family member, the other two are nice guys I knew from high school and college

I love them, so it was devastating to see that. I will never respect any of them as much as I used to
The family member, it troubles me every day that she posted that she likes Kirk and yea I understand where OP is coming from because I have to have a long talk with her about how horrible he is to a lot of people

Me as a serious Christian, I am mostly angry when people are grave/very serious heretics when it comes to God and the Bible. I don't think he should be punished for it by anyone but God tho
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>>35066736
Epstein was a democrat donor. Most of his friends were jews and democrats.
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>>35067450
None of these are controversial.
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>>35067483
> i, as a racist, don't find racism to be controversial
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>>35067471
You're a cuck, kill yourself.
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There is literally ZERO reason for whites not to hate niggers and browns. You are our enemy and I think every single one of you should be murdered.
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>>35067471
>Me as a serious Christian
To add to this: I love all Christian churches. From all the high liturgy to all the Walmart-style Non-denominational ones and all in between
With churches, it comes down to the pastor and whoever is giving the homilies & sermons each Sunday. Those are the leaders of the flock and:
remember only 4 of the 12 Apostles were significantly mentioned or considered part of Jesus' inner circle
>For most of the other original apostles—such as Andrew, Philip, Bartholomew, Thomas, Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, Thaddaeus/Judas son of James, and Simon the Zealot—the Bible records very little or nothing beyond their inclusion in the lists of the Twelve

Then you have Judas

For every 12 churches you go to, expect only 4 to have highly competent pastors and 1 to have a pure Judas

If your pastor likes Kirk he's either
1) retarded
2) a Judas
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>>35067493
>>35067497
>I've never been able to make friends; I don't understand why
yeah it's a real mystery
can't imagine why no one wants to be around such pleasant people
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>>35067500

You're not "serious" anything, you're a brainwashed clown.
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>>35067501

See? All browns and niggers donis argue and oppose us and try to take our space.
Whites who don't want to kill every single one of you are retarded and brainwashed.
You are literally a biological enemy.
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>>35067500
>yeah i guess jesus said to love your enemy or whatever but stop worrying about that and listen to my method for determining which pastors are evil
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>>35067497
why would whites hate those kind of people?
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>>35067507
Because they are an enemy and wherever they become a majority, life becomes inhospitable to whites.
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>>35067497
whites have more in common with those people than the politicians whose cock you suck so eagerly
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>>35067511
you are not answering the question, that they are an enemy i already got from your previous statement, you are not telling me why they are an enemy. what point are you trying to make other than you just hate people for some superficial reason?
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>>35067503
yeah whatever timmy
that shit's old, man
literally been listening to you loser sitting on this site talking about how you're gonna kill all the nonwhites for 10 years straight
you haven't done shit
you'll never do shit
you know why?

because you don't live in the real world, timmy
you live on the internet
you don't have any friends
the best you could ever do is one of those sad and pathetic mass shootings where you kill a couple old people before shooting yourself in the head

everyone's sick of your shit, timmy
even texas went blue
and you better lube up because we're just getting started and unlike you, we do shit in the real world
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>>35067512
I don't support mainstream cuck politicians

>>35067514
See>>35067511

>>35067515
I personally HAVE assaulted your people, but there needs to be mass violence not just separate brave dudes taking thinhs into their own hands.
Every time something happens, you immediately cry and play victim and run to law enforcement like a BEEEYATCH by the way.
Pajeets are the ultimate incel race by the way, you will be removed easier than anyone out there. You're soft.
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>>35067505
Love your enemy means being nice to those Judas pastors. I always am. You see I'm not naming names. I always keep them anonymous when talking about them except if someone brings up his name first as one that is clearly out of line with Christianity, then the cat is already out of the bag
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>>35067520
Christcucks are cancer, you're retarded.
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i am outtie, this thread is so stupid, it's just racists insulting people they disagree with instead of actually making any points. you are not doing your side any favors. and then you wonder why the democrats in the midterms when all the right has to offer is superficial culture war bullshit instead of actually caring about the lives of the people they claim to represent
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>>35067520
>loving your enemy means pretending to be nice to people you hate
it's wild how so few christians manage to correctly understand such a simple and straightforward verse
but the ego wants what the ego wants, doesn't it?
feels real good to judge other people while knowing you're more righteous than them
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>>35067522
Kys fag no one cares
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>>35067518
getting in a fist fight in middle school really isn't the same as kicking off the race war, timmy

>Pajeets are the ultimate incel race by the way, you will be removed easier than anyone out there.
india is the most populous country in the world
hey quick question can you name a country that isn't currently experiencing mass immigration by indians?
bzzt if you named a country you're wrong, there literally aren't any
indians have already infiltrated every nation on earth and you're never going to get rid of them

you know why?
because you don't live in the real world, timmy
you live on the internet
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>>35067520
Oh to add with that:
With nice guy I knew in college and nice guy I knew in high school that posted they were in support of Kirk? There are still my friends and I'll always hang with them or help them up but if they bring up Kirk that is going to make for a challenging situation it's not fun telling your friends that basically they are idiots like this brainwashed clown who thinks he isn't:
>>35067502
As for me I'm not going to bring it up with them because I rarely ever see theaw people anymore. But the family member, she's like a sister so we are going to have a long talk about God and the Bible. Your average Christian has a 3rd grade knowledge of the Bible which is how you got duped so easy
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>>35067528
All I see is pajeets being incels and crying about how we insult you every day. On here you can pretend all you want, IN REALITY you are brown clows thst no one respects or likes. Delusional faggots, softest weakest race ever
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>>35067529
Literally satanic.
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>>35067532
>All I see is pajeets being incels
that's cute but india had a little over 23 million births last year so clearly there's a good amount of fucking going on
you don't become the #1 most populous country without having lots of sex

>IN REALITY you are brown clows thst no one respects or likes.
no timmy, IN REALITY indians have taken over most of the most valuable american companies
microsoft ceo? indian
google ceo? indian
IBM ceo? indian

i could keep going but you get the point, right?
it's over for you
all you have left is this impotent online seething
and pretty soon we're gonna make that illegal too

demographics are destiny, timmy
even texas went blue
if you didn't throw out the nonwhites after 2 years of trump then you never will
it's only going to get worse for you from here out
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>>35067542
>CEOs SAAR!!!
>WHY DO I GET ZERO SEX EVER AND NO ONE RESPECTS ME, POLICE POLICE THIS IS HINDUPHOBIC!!

absolutely pathetic. Even your own ugly brown bitches have stopped reproducing with you.
I guarantee you personally are a pussy, a nerd and an incel. GUARANTEE it.
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>>35067534
With Christ vs Satan, yes, Charlie Kirk most definitely listened not just to the devil on his shoulder a lot over the angel on his other, but he took it next level Satanic. We have free will and again I don't think he should be punished for it. They have a Satan group that meets at a gamer place down my street and I don't wish them any harm. We have free will. We are free to reject Christ. But don't bring Kirk's name up around any educated Christian that actually knows the Bible. Watch, go ask your pastor: was Charlie Kirk on the side of God or Satan? Or ask, do you think Charlie Kirk was a good person? Or ask, did Charlie Kirk deliberately and gravely try to fool people regarding God and the Bible? Ask is Kirk going to Heaven or Hell? Be specific Make sure you ask one that went to a reputable seminary and got his doctorate in theology
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>>35067549
i'm not indian, timmy
so this little act you're putting on feels pretty awkward
i'm a bit embarrassed for you ngl

the objective fact is that indian immigrants are one of the most financially successful immigrant groups
you can cope however you want but that's reality
while you're sitting on 4chan being an edgy little boy
indians are running your companies
they're firing all the timmys
and they're importing more indians to take all those jobs
it's happening right now and not only are none of your politicians trying to stop it, most of them are encouraging it
even your fellow chuds like elon are in full support of more indian immigration

texas went blue, timmy
it's the end of an era
it's the end of your era
you will never see another republican president in your life
enjoy these last two years because it's never going to happen again
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>>35067552
And here is another thing I found out: every single time a jamboy like you started acting brave online and I told him to turn up somewhere and he agreed, I would turn up and there was no one there.
Every single one of you is a pussy.
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>>35067550
You are performing Satan's work
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>>35067554
yeah i'm sure that's happened a lot
i believe you, i really do

i wish i could be there when you realize that you missed your last chance to turn things around
you had two trump presidencies
you had control of all branches of government, multiple times
you could have done anything you wanted
you could have thrown out all the indians
you could have deported all the nonwhites

what did you do?
same thing you're doing now
sat in the basement
typed some edgy stuff on 4chan
daydreamed about taking your country back
never actually did anything

keep doing nothing, timmy
it's all you're good at
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>>35067556
Do you know what the Bible is? It's this book that was written by humans, divinely inspired enough to get the seal of approval to be in the Canon established by
• The Council of Rome in 382 AD, led by Pope Damasus, formally promulgated the scriptural canon.
• Regional councils at Hippo (393 AD) and Carthage (397 AD) subsequently affirmed the same 27-book New Testament list.
• The canon was later reaffirmed ecumenically at the Council of Florence (1442) and formally defined by the Council of Trent in 1546.

There is an Old Testament & New Testament. It's not an easy book to understand, it's huge

But let me show you how to get started learning about God...
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>>35067562
1) read the Gospels
It's four books
Matthew Mark Luke came from the same tree. Start with Mark, the shortest and most mission-bent. Do that seriously. Use Lectio Divina methods to set a very sacred mood where you are very aware of God, use Ignatius' contemplative prayer methods such as imagine yourself in the actual scene in the Gospel subchapter you are reading

Really get into it. Take this serious. Not like all the other books you couldn't get into that you all confused and ignorant

Really take the Gospel seriously. Start with Mark, then...
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>>35067558
Seethe all you want, brown jamboy
Literally not even once did you turn up. Pussy.
An entire race of pussy brown nerd incels
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>>35067567
>>35067562

You advance Satan, why would anyone listen to you
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>>35067567
then do Luke/Matthew. There are the most similar, both are the two that record the Great Homily.

The Sermon on the Mount/Plain
That's basically the Gospel / New Testament equivalent to when God gave the 10 commandments to Moses in the Old Testament/Jewbook/Hebrew Bible

So pay special attention to memorizing that. You know how Jews want to put their 10 Commandments in school? If you do that then you have to put up the Sermon on the Mount/plain for us Christians. Read those two together. Memorize them
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>>35067569
You're the person Jesus tells "get behind me Satan"
Go read the Gospel like I'm explaining how to do. It's not long. Just 4 books. None are super long. Mark is very short
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>>35067576
Then do the most poetic and beautiful Gospel John. Then look up the 100 best books for explaining the Gospel to you that you think God thinks are best for you . Read all 100. Very seriously
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>>35067579
Of course I've read the Gospel. Unfortunately, inverting Satanists like you can read and speak on it (falsely) also
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>>35067584
Charlie Kirk showed us that. As for you: alright what's the temple in Jerusalem? What's that all about ? Do you even know? It's in the Gospels.
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>>35067589
>Charlie Kirk showed us that

As a Christian I struggled with Charlie Kirk’s divisive opinions
>https://www.premierchristianity.com/opinion/as-a-christian-i-struggled-with-charlie-kirks-divisive-opinions/20121.article

A Christian’s Reflection on Charlie Kirk
>https://spectrummagazine.org/views/the-weight-of-words-a-christians-reflection-on-charlie-kirk/
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>>35067590
Do Charlie Kirk’s beliefs align with the Bible?


I like how that one ends with: A quote that I like to live by is, “You cannot treat people like garbage and worship God at the same time.”
https://viewpointsonline.org/2025/10/how-has-charlie-kirk-influenced-students-and-communities-part-2/
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>>35067591

The gospel of MAGA in their own words about Charlie Kirk
>https://baptistnews.com/article/the-gospel-of-maga-in-their-own-words-about-charlie-kirk/

>The disciples of TPUSA are preaching a false gospel and, in doing so, have declared war on Christians and anyone else who does not support their worldview of domination. We are in disagreement about the very nature of God, Christ and what it means to be a Christian witness.

>We desperately need the theologians and faithful of our day to publicly and fearlessly wade into these theological waters to combat the heresies of the gospel of MAGA.
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>>35067601
>>35067591
>>35067590
>>35067589

>Satanic schizorambling
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>>35067603
Satan, I know it's you. I love making you suffer with my words so I'm just as guilty as one of Charlie's Kirk's sins. Get behind me Satan!

God, I'm sorry for making this man consumed by Satan, that has reached close to 100% union with Satan, suffer.
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>>35067608
You're literally demon-possessed, read what you've just written.
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>>35067612
Anyway, let's pretend you want to center your life on Christ

Start with:
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>>35067626
We'd have to pretend you're not a Satanist to take any of your posts seriously.
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>>35066644
Jesus was a revolutionary leftist preaching unconditional empathy and love.
He was still smart enough to kick the merchants out of the temple. He knew what happens when you let the merchants in control.
Your brother understands Jesus better than you do.
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>>35067637
there is several passages in the bible criticizing the rich. the bible is also often used to justify homophobia when in reality that is mostly down to a interpretation of the translation of the bible that is not as clear as bigots would like to believe. but hey, whatever makes them feel justified in hating on others. that's par for the course for the right wing anyway, just fear and hate.
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>>35067662
Oh wow, now you're using your Bible to justify pederasty, nice.
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>>35067670
forgot link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality

i doubt you understand the words being written, it's not about facts for you people anyway, it's about what you want to believe, but facts don't care about your feelings
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>>35067678
Yeeeah Wikipedia, nice source. Got anything from Reddit maybe?
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>>35067680
thanks for proving my point haha
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>>35066644
I know very little about Kirk or his politics, so let's stick with you and your brother. If you have "never really been able to make friends" and dismiss others as "not my kind of people," and if you call him "left-wing" just because he's a Democrat, and if you are prepared to reject him just because he doesn't share your politics, then it is YOU who are radicalized without even realizing it.
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>>35067704
You have no point.
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>>35066644
> Pope Leo XIV has argued that the rise of extremist right-wing groups globally relies on "destruction, division, and hatred" rather than the Gospel values of compassion, dignity, and the common good.

this guy has studied for his whole life in order to acquire a theological background you can't even begin to fathom
he has prayed for tens of thousands of hours
he has preached live to millions of people, online to billions
he has debated with the most powerful men on earth
a billion and a half people believe his parole is the word of Ggd and can not be mistaken

I'll trust him on Jesus-related matters over some dumbass republicans
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>>35067463
He felt the need to talk about what a terrible person this murder victim was because he had opinions that are similar to mine, that he knows are similar to mine. If I were murdered, would he be able to say he's sad about it without including an asterisk. I guess probably, but only because we happen to be brothers.

Also it's very telling to me that he would NEVER say similar things about someone who died supporting abortion or sodomy or the chemical castration of children, despite claiming to be a Christian. It's only "racism" that repulses him so.
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>>35067710
It's hard for me to make friends because I'm quiet and keep to myself naturally, and I no longer have ways to hang out with peers like I did as a teen. I am the only person in my age group in the office and my coworkers don't have anything in common with me anyway for the most part. They're mostly republicans too so politics isn't why I'm not friends with them.
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>>35067497
This. They hate us and want us dead.
Get an indian even slightly miffed and he will gloat about the very replacement he says is a conspiracy.
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>>35067824
>trust le experts
>here's a media quote be a celebrity, see!
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>>35067850
They will say "but you have replaced the Natives, so you have to be okay with being replaced".
Yeah nah bitch, I will murder you and your brown family before I allow you to do the same to me.
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>>35066679
Go hard at him. His positions aren't grounded in reality. The first thing you need to buttfuck him on epistemologically is the notion that racism is even a real concept at all. It's not. Every other race engages in open bigotry, often towards whites especially, however whites get fucking nuked for reciprocating often by other captured/brainwashed whites. That's by design, that's an intentional subversion of white values.

Conservative positions have logical consistency but that's a double-edged sword. Conservatives often fall into the leftoid trap of "deboonking" the lefts retarded opinions instead of actually attacking the left. Leftoids like your brother aren't interested in truth. Press them and they will vomit out every retarded take rattling around their brain that day. All they want to do is drown your position in libel and to shame you. In their minds if they call you racists, rapists, evil, nazis, etc. They have grounds to immediately begin finger wagging at you while spawning justifications to call for you to be harmed while you retardedly deboonk all the rhetorical vomit they just smeared you with.

Instead you press them and accuse them the same way they do you. Accuse them of being pedos, call them commie fag worshippers, tell them they're the party of allowing gays to adopt and rape young boys, call them Jewish bio weapons and good goys. Tell them they're the useful idiots of the revolution. Call them anti-white racists and race-traitors. Call for them to be put in camps so their malign asses can be bulldozed into mass graves.

The best part is most of the shit you throw at them is actually true. The left IS the faction of pro-pedophilia, they are the faction of moral degeneracy and hypocrisy. They can't handle their own strategy of shit flinging. Eventualy they attempt to address the accusations like conservatives do, but they have no epistemology or principles so they flounder. That's the time to engage with debate and humiliate them.
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>>35067861
The goal isnt to win the debate. The goal is to humiliate them into looking so irredeemably stupid they begin to resent the ideology that lead them to that outcome. At the end of the day most leftists are sheep. If a more popular political ideology came along that allowed them to LARP like "the heckin wholesome good guys" and signal their virtues to their peers they would immediately glom onto it. Even if it was National Socialism. They're lowborns. They don't understand politics like rational people who use it as a means of collectively addressing societal problems. Leftys are literal chimps using politics as a means of signaling their position on the tree of their social hierarchies. It's like a retarded currency to them.
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>>35067861
>They can't handle their own strategy of shit flinging.
While I don't really care for the rest of your text wall, this one is actually something I came to realize: BLM and IOTBW are the same logical fallacy, where any criticism of the movement can be dismissed by "oh, so you don't think [slogan]?", placing the critic on an immediate defensive. Leftists adore this tactic, but when IOTBW turned it against them, they threw down.
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>>35067889

i can tell by the way you write that you think you are really smart, but you lack a thourough understanding of what left wing ideologies actually are and it shows. there are several things you are saying that are misunderstanding of how things are, ironically you are describing features of the right wing that you claim are inherent to left wing politics haha. it's also quite telling for a group of people claiming that they are "rational", there is so much hate and insults present coming from people like you itt. to be right wing, is to be absurd.
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>>35066644
I would say your brother has lost his connection to reality and has fallen deeply into political division slop. Try calling the family together to address this from a purly family take and not a political one. Reach out to your brother and ask him is something has happen that pushed him into this extremist online political shit.
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>>35067915
>n-no u!
Wow, nice argument faggot
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>>35067956
I have sometimes noticed him change his personality in minor ways when around other people for approval. Usually from women I guess. Like he'd just make comments that don't sound like him at all. I'm pretty sure he's fully okay with trannies at this point but doesn't feel ready to say it to us yet. He also works with a Christian themed theatre group, despite as I say not going to church himself, which really shouldn't be allowed. Maybe he's just drifted off, and if he started going to church again he could get back on track. What I do know is that he has far more negative feelings towards conservative Christians than he does for transgender communists.
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damn that guy had a punchable face on top of being a douchebag
got what he deserved honestly
thanks for cheering me up OP, I should think about what happened to him more often
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>>35068019
That's how I feel about that bootlipped nigger george fentaloyd, still cracks me up how he was slowly choked to death, 10/10
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>>35067994
>He also works with a Christian themed theatre group
DING DING DING
He more than likely is being drawn into theater fag circles and is adopting their worldview in order to find community with them. Again, I would talk to him from a purly apolitical concerned brother take. Reach out to him and let him know your family cares for him. If he disagrees on some economic factors thats whatever, but for him to ebrace insane far left antifa stuff is a sign of him joining a cult.
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politics is fake bros
every second spent thinking about it is a gerbil wheel
public figures dont represent anyone
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>>35066644
It is not reasonable to yourself or your brother to assume that you and Charlie Kirk are one and the same because of your shared sociopolitical views. Charlie Kirk operated a business with conservative values as a toolkit to inflame and disturb educational settings, and embolden conservative youth by convincing them of their oppression and opposition. He was willingly perpetuating and propagating the culture war used to prevent the people of the US from uniting to actually solve any of our problems. For a Christian and a successful businessman, he should have both recognized that he was "living by the sword", and remembered the consequences thereof. Your brother loves you. I would recommend sitting with him and having a discussion based on the assessment of damages suffered by you both in this culture war, and then collaborate on identifying what is true. Genuinely. Identify what social issues you're disagreeing about, take note of what you both believe about it and why, then identify the backing arguments about them and see where shared ground is.
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>>35068035
>He more than likely is being drawn into theater fag circles and is adopting their worldview in order to find community with them.
I actually don't think that's correct. I think his liberal views primarily come from Reddit and discord, and wanting to fit in with the groupthink there. He's been on Reddit since he was a kid. I actually think he's hiding just how liberal he is because the parents of the kids he works with would be horrified if they knew. He did unironically call me a straight white man yesterday.
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>>35068058
>He was willingly perpetuating and propagating the culture war used to prevent the people of the US from uniting to actually solve any of our problems.
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>>35068064
Please point to where I promoted one culture over the other. I did mention the US specifically because I am American by birth, and have no knowledge of how things are for people in other countries.
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Based
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>>35066684
>Charlie Kirk chose to spend his entire life sowing hate and division
That's what you're doing right now, with hypocrisy added on top.
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>>35067423
>I have never actually tried listening to what he said but will parrot the lies that television said justify murdering him
You are going to find out that he was preaching kindness and those of us that witnessed goblins like you are no longer willing to be so kind one day, parasite.
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>>35067450
>AI slop
You aren't a person
>>35067500
>Charlie kirk was Judas
You are Judas.
>>35067542
And it took less than 3 posts for this lying, white-hating cretin to reveal himself.
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I just want to say the texts he sent me the other night would make our mom cry if she saw them.
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>>35066644
Imagine if your whole family was like that
Thats my life
I think they might try to kill me if they knew I voted for Trump
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>>35070086
I can't imagine dude, I'm sorry. I'm glad my parents are such awesome people. One time my mom shared a post on Facebook about the reason why Christians should vote for Trump, and my brother hopped into her comments to explain that she was wrong. And I mean he wasn't blasting her exactly, prefaced it with "I love you, but" but I thought that was just so disrespectful. Like why do you need to jump in on your own mom's little Facebook post to publicly disagree with her? One time my parents told me that he said to them that he "forgives them" for voting for Trump, and that made me so mad I was about ready to cut him off right there.
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>>35066644
stupid people shouldn't get interested in politics, but if they didn't then the system would probably break down somehow. the system is stupid.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rvTedFpb67w&ra=m
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>>35066644
don't depend too much on your brother, try to excercise your independence a bit more but still be kind to him, don't argue too much if you guys aren't argumentative types. Are you both saved?
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>>35070055
so he trusts you and thinks he can share more with you than with your mom, don't betray this trust, don't make an issue out of nothing. We've all said or believed stupid political things before. Noone gets them all right.
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>>35070983
He still identifies as Christian, but like I said, he doesn't attend church. There was recently a situation where my mom was having a disagreement with her mom's church, just kind of a misunderstanding/miscommunication/disagreement kind of thing. My brother chimed in with "How very Christian. There's no love like Christian hate. This is why the church is dying." I wanted to tell him that this isn't reddit and you can't get upvotes in real life. Every time I make a comment about trannies, he implies that I'm wrong to care. He definitely hates conservative Christians a lot more than the people who promote abortion and trans children.

So, I guess he could just be very very confused and could find his way back, but he seems pretty lost to me. But he's in that weird space where I'd hate to say that to him. But he needs to pick a lane. Right now I think he's trying to serve two masters.
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>>35068143
NTA but
>he was preaching kindness
You are horribly disingenuous and callous, and that may explain why you his words to be "preaching kindness". You even claim to look up to a man preaching kindness while threatening others, without seeing the irony.
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>>35066644
You may think that the left detsts young white men, but upon closer examinations, Kirks view on men were far more vile and insidious.
According to Kirk, the life of a man should be
>toil and suffer and know no pleasure so his wife can be flush with handbags and have a well filled purse for her girls nights out
>soar his bosses profits while not sparing himself
>remain married no matter what ( putting the cuck in cuckservative)
>happily volunteer for whatever meatgrinder his betters choose to expend him in
>go into debt suervitude for life so he can "own" some dilapitated boomers shack and prop up the boomers pension

Basically, the ideal conservative male is a whipped slave that knows to cast his eyes down and never speak unless it is to say "yes dear" or "yes sir". Its arguable far worse than whatever idea the left has. This is not only based on direct qoutes by Kirk but backed up by his lifestyle: His handler/godl digging trophy wife proceeded to literally dance on his grave and sloppily suck the first black buck to enter her field of view after he died. Now shes grifting away , as she has all the money without having to tolerate the attached cuck. Do you want to end like Kirk?Ridiculed forgotten and cucked, taken seriously not even by his own supporters.
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>can't make friends
>sees Kirk as a victim and self-inserts as him to feed his own victim complex
>cries about abortion and rainbow flags unprompted
>"racism"
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>>35072320
Yeah, no shit.
Both the left and cuckservatives are our enemy.
First day here?
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>>35072320
The left has the perfect idea for a white male: We can stay at home playing vidya while the women are out making money for Goldbergstein and pays taxes. All women are my mommy gfs :D
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>>35072277
Oh, no I'm not a fan of his. I only looked into him after seeing all the quotes and doing what real people do, which is looking up the context to see what he actually said.

Kirk is the moderate, conciliatory option that just wanted to restore a healthy functional society and would gladly have welcomed other well-meaning people into it. He was murdered for his tolerance. I don't share his views. I fucking hate all of you parasites and want you gone. I know your nature better, that hate-filled leftists want any society that isn't ruled by their ideology burned to the ground and raped to death, and hate it more the more successful it is. I knew before his murder that you faggots wouldn't take the options to deescelate, but it still disgusts me, the path you fucking mongols are setting us on.

For all the "REEEE HITLER HITLER HITLER" of the last decade directed at everyone, you faggots really have no fucking idea how hitler came to power, what his ideology was, etc. Kirk wasn't hitler. Trump isn't hitler. Continually escalating into mass histrionics, burnings and murders because people just want to restore the country to health and function, rejecting people like that, and pushing psychotic bullshit like troonerism, mass migration and the constant racial hatred identity politics you've been pushing? That's how you end up CREATING a hitler. Hitler was left wing, at that. As much of an authoritarian monster as he was, he came to power entirely by the popularity generated when his faction started fighting against yours in the streets when the right wing types wouldn't.

I don't like hitler or his ideology. But I actually know history, and I can see you blind retards recreating the same fucking conditions that are going to end in mass graves, and you're probably fine with that, because you faggots have been telling us that WE have to die for decades. I grew up around severe leftists. I know exactly what you're like.
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>>35073944
Hitler was excellent but ultimately too humane and soulful. The next in will need to be psychologically a lot colder.
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>>35074301
>Hitler was excellent
Hitler was a delusional megalomaniac leftist who pushed leftist government structure and policy using nationalism as a veneer and only came to power because the other leftists he pushed back against were even worse. I wasn't defending him in that post, you tool. All of you simps for totalitarian government are overgrown children who prove that democracy is a bad joke, inflicted upon the sensible people in society that just want to have peace and a healthy society by the horde of verminous rabble that don't.
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>>35075525
You're retarded.
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>>35066644
His friend Candace Owens is black tho.
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>>35076224
You, hitler-humper, are only better than the retarded troonist leftists, your government framework would still be hostile to freedom and sanity. It would be less self-destructive, but it would still make every man into a cog in a machine and end in the same kind of nightmare that every commie authoritarian bullshit state ends in.
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>>35076396
Nope
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>>35066644
Sorry OP but WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS THREAD EVEN? when did this site become infested with Reddit fags???
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>>35073944
>that just wanted to restore a healthy functional society
You mean, a society taht functioned exactly as according to his beliefs.
>would gladly have welcomed other well-meaning people into it.
You mean anyone willing to submit to his beliefs and the hierachy they represent.
>He was murdered for his tolerance
He was murdered for thinking aloud about no longer supporting israel. An example had to be made.
>he came to power entirely by the popularity generated when his faction started fighting against yours in the streets when the right wing types wouldn't.
Your historical illiteracy is embarassing. Americans really should learn to shut up.
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>>35066644
Kirk lowkirkiuenley said that some gun deaths were worth it to protect the second amendment. I think the second amendment is needed but to actually put both of them on a scale seemed pretty dickish.
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>>35066644
>demonize and harass mentally ill trannies for easy clicks and gay culture war to distract the masses so they can’t participate in the class war
>get got by them or Israel
>greedy whore wife torpedos your legacy and wants to fuck Justdance Vance
I feel bad for him, I’m sure he would have wanted to have Horst weissels legacy if he had to bite it but the boobs around him screwed it up.
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>>35079219
*very I’m the main character energy. Like your deaths are worth it, but not mine of course. If anyone of us got shot we wouldn’t even be a statistic for Charlie.
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>>35066644
>kirk shitposts about Pelosi’s husband’s attacker being a gay skitzo nudist who attempted to murder his lover
>no nooo you must feel bad about my heckin wholesome community college dropout getting necked by pissrael
Kirk’s soul will be stuck in memes for the rest of eternity.
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>>35067478
His esquimo brother was Donald John Trump tho
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>>35079318
Libtards aren't beating the "pretending not to understand things" allegations
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>>35079395
>year after he was brutally murdered
>blue tsunami
Israel killed Temu Horst weissel too soon I guess
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>>35079395
Are you saying you’re exactly like Charlie and would say inflammatory shit about your political opponents on your public profile? Otherwise why would your brother hate you. He probably gives you the benefit of the doubt for being an easily influenced friendless spaz with your (((drumpf))) worship. What if your lib brother was attacked and killed by some crazy conservative bottom feeder-maybe he thinks Charlie would have celebrated or been indifferent to someone with different political views.
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>>35079529
If only there was some way to know what came after the "..." in that sentence
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>>35079543
>YOURE LEAVING OUT THE CONTEXT
reading everything Charlie ever said rarely paints him in a better light. Inb4 it was a joke retard, so are Charlie memes. He was a highly memed individual even before he died. I wish Charlie was alive right now continuing to regurgitate garbage for you dipshits. Maybe he would have had a come to Jesus moment and stopped grifting the goyslop chugging conservatives with more bullshit to reinforce their skewed vision of the world.
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>>35079594
Literally no one in the world responded to the Sandy Hook mass shooting by shrugging their shoulders. Leftists can't defend their positions so they just make things up.
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>>35079622
>same song and dance for every mass shooting
That’s what thots and prayers means you stupid mother fucker. We got NRA/gun manufacturer funded politicians who are absolutely vehemently against even discussing gun reform or even studying it after a shooting and their platitudes about addressing mental health are absolutely empty. They might as well be shrugging their shoulders.
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>>35079653
The NRA is a cucked and compromised organization that doesn't actually stand for the second amendment. The fact that you're using such a moderate group as your boogeyman shows how utterly clueless you are.

Leftists will also use every mass shooting to call for more gun control, but never explain how the reforms they want would've actually prevented the shooting. They want background checks, but the shooters typically could've passed them. A lot of the time the gun is stolen anyway. They want to ban "assault weapons" when the shooting was done with a normal handgun that no democrat in congress actually wants to ban.
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>>35066644
I think you need to make some distinctions and re-examine things; don’t let one incident lead you to paint everything else with the same brush. You should be able to discern what to keep and what to discard. I’m not saying you’re overthinking, but at the very least, you should recognize that in any situation, you always have options even if they’re just minimal ones.
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>>35079664
It’s a blanket statement about gun organizations that would oppose politicians if they deviated from the party standard. And what are the solutions to prevent school shootings in the only nation where this happens all the time? These politicians have no real answer or plan and don’t actually care about the lives that are lost. You guys aren’t a serious people.
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>>35079750
>They would oppose politicians if the politicians ran on taking their freedoms away
Groundbreaking insight.
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>>35079763
>freedom
I feel so free with Stephen miller’s masked goons roaming the streets.
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>>35079799
You actually aren't allowed to illegally enter a country and live there
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>>35079903
>t. probably hyperventilated in rage during jade helm
The president wants them to be so much more than immigration enforcement. He openly admired China’s brutality during Tiananmen Square. He wishes he could brutalize protestors like third world nations can. He definitely would like to slaughter them for hurting his fucking feefees if he could get away with it. Also it shouldn’t be normalized to have the Guard in a constant deployment in the nation’s capital.
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>>35066644
Buy my hot sauce!
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>>35080124
>literally making things up to mock a widow
Absolutely deranged
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>>35080139
>goes on tv because Dave chapelle betrayed you and oh yeah I cry whenever I see Charlie’s $9 hot sauce
She fucked JD. Calling it.
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>>35080165
That clip you're referring to is from last year, and she's not talking about Charlie's hot sauce that he made with his friend. She's talking about the brands of hot sauce he always enjoyed eating, and that seeing those remind her of him and make her sad.

It should be shocking how shamelessly leftists will lie to slander innocent people, but at this point I'm accustomed to how evil leftists are.
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>>35080192
>mental gymnastics galore
Candace Owens called this grifting bitch out day one. Oh she was crying about a different favorite hot sauce not the one he put effort into making with his friend. You people are laughably retarded. Buy a bottle you dumb bitch.
https://kirkshotsauce.com/
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>>35080240
Even that website name is sussy af
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>>35080240
She clearly wasn't talking about that one, and you would know that if you actually watched the clip instead of running with the deranged lie you've been told about it.
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>>35080240
>kirk shot sauce
She was too busy crying in her wads of cash to notice.
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>>35080269
You gullible fool. She did not break down and cry when she saw a bottle of fucking hot sauce.
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>>35080304
If you weren't completely autistic, you would know that it's common for people to be set off by minor things like that while grieving. I remember Patton Oswalt saying after his wife died he was sitting there waiting for his phone to update, and it hit him that his wife's phone would never update again and he started crying. Yes, it is a relatively normal thing that a wife would get emotional when she sees something that reminds her of her husband who is no longer there.
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>>35080304
*”what hits me the hardest, is seeing his hot sauce” not remembering what a loving partner or father he was. Marketing plain and simple.
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>>35080330
Are you going to buy the hot sauce or not? Charlie poured his heart and soul into it to honor his grandfather. Now pay up.
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>>35080441
I don't like hot sauce, and that's not even what she was talking about anyway, which you know by now but are pretending not to know, in true leftist fashion.
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>>35080446
>9 dollars is too much to honor his hero
Put it on your shelf you dolt. Enter your contact info in.
https://kirkshotsauce.com/checkouts/cn/hWNIvnHbdvVJI7MWLO2gGjWk/en-us?_r=AQABO2efCZcGdb9_VcT80JpXJLvtrc-8V0R97gaXm9XmFbDxx52j
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>>35080446
>what she was lying about
ftfy
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>>35080510
Well gee if Candace Owens says it
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>>35080515
>charlie’s death his his friend harder than his wife and her tight hot pants
lmao
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>>35079157
>He was murdered for thinking aloud about no longer supporting israel
Retarded
>Your historical illiteracy
Projection, from a retard. I actually know what happened in Weimar Germany, you clearly don't.
>>35079653
>gun reform
No matter how much you dress it up, say it's about the children or other emotional excuses that government uses to powergrab, it will always boil down to "should government (and criminals) have the monopoly on force" and the answer is always no. Fuck off, grabbler. We all know what comes next after a leftist government disarms the populace, and it's mass murder.
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>>35080623
>didn’t provide any other solution to school shootings
Conservatives are the ultimate shruggers for dead kids. Welp I guess we’re going to have to live with more school shootings then. I’d be perfectly willing to jump through more hoops to get a gun if it meant a criminal would have a harder
time getting one. It would be virtually impossible to disarm the American people and there’s absolutely no point in trying.
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>>35066644
Erika is smart. She knows a bunch of no life commentators will do her viral marketing for her. It’s time to turn 1 Charlie Kirk’s hot sauce selling grocery store into 1 million Charlie Kirk’s hot sauce selling grocery stores.
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>>35080682
How was she smart enough to know that a year after she said that on tv, the clip would resurface and people would make up a lie that she was talking about a Charlie Kirk branded hot sauce instead of the actual context which is she was seeing the kind he liked in stores and it made her sad because she misses him
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>>35066644
You want to know why people are memeing him to death a year later? the highest levels of government tried to turn him into their Horst Weissel. They tried to act like he was a saint, this generation’s Martin Luther King. You’d have people jump down your throat when you said you didn’t like what he said. You people jumped the shark, when most everyone was willing to give him their condolences and legit feel bad that 2 kids lost their daddy and Erika lost her husband.
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>>35080718
>I'm just saying I disagreed with some of his opinions, why are you so mad?
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Just chill out. Agree to disagree and move on. Politics are important of course, but they shouldn't interfere with our friendships. If anything I think it's one thing (I hope) we can all agree on is that all this division isn't making anything better and that we should still respect and listen to eachother even if we have different views. Charlie Kirk was a public figure who thrived on controversy and who went out of his way to antagonise and humiliate opponents (most of those being unprepared, easy targets), people are bound to have very strong opinions on a figure like that no matter what side he's on.
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>>35080723
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/r1rWZY5zeZs
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>>35080721
Where am I in that picture? Yeah that’s right I’m not in that picture bro.
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>>35080711
They finally took the bait.
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>>35080736
Stupid bitch eating crackers
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>>35080735
>Well what about this thing that's nowhere near as bad?
Leftists are incapable of being honest.
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>>35080747
>Charlie himself joked about it
Karma is a bitch. Conservatives also pretended that the guy who killed that congress woman, her husband, and their dog was a leftist. You guys are a disingenuous people.
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Imagine making another human such an idol, that you become a caricature of him...
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>>35080764
You probably already know this and are intentionally lying, but Charlie made a tongue in cheek comment that someone should bail out the attacker to ask him what was going on, because it was a weird situation, and this was immediately after leftists had been rallying to bail out violent criminals who destroyed cities. And obviously the man didn't actually die, or I'm sure he wouldn't have sarcastically called the person who would hypothetically bail out the attacker to ask what happened a patriot.

Again, there's no point in explaining it. You're a leftist, which means you're fundamentally evil, and you don't mind lying in order to get what you want.
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>>35080797
You niggers will always make excuses for your idols.
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>>35080718
Yeah, no. Ghouls were cheering minute one. You're a disingenuous, lying faggot and your bullshit rapidly woke a lot of people up to the fact that leftism isn't compatible with civilized society.
>>35080723
Lmao. No, that both sides shit has long gone completely out the window. "I think you should be killed and your children castrated" vs "children shouldn't be castrated and I don't hate white people" isn't the kind of disagreement you can spin as possible to coexist. You must either stop being genocidal racist fuckwits, leave my country, or face the music when you cause a fucking war because you won't stop trying to burn everything down. Fuck you.
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>>35081574
>when you cause a fucking war because you won't stop trying to burn everything down. Fuck you.
The president already did this you dumb bitch
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>>35081574
>conservatives lie and mock citizens getting executed by the government
You have no friends and won’t even buy a poor grifting widow’s hot sauce. See you next kirkaversary.
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I enjoy Kirk jokes etc but I genuinely forgot how leftists genuinely hate him and anyone else who doesn't exactly agree with them on everything.
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>>35082092
It’s just good fun. He was a smug dweeb who didn’t deserve to die. If the shoe was on the other foot you know Charlie would have had a good laugh. Pubs were threatening civil war over it and now it was proven to be toothless. They couldn’t even bother manufacturing more shit to tie Tyler to leftism instead of Groypers.
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>>35082127
For some it is just fun but there is a very vocal part of the left who feels entirely justified in killing anyone who is in the way.
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>>35082149
How was Charlie in the way? He’s a more likable Ben Shapiro but the people who fell for his clickbait were stupid anyways. Nick Fuentes actually hated him. Part of being a college student is having loving Christians accost you with dead baby pictures or tell you that you are going to hell. I don’t hate these people, they’re just annoying. Charlie was at least civil when he debates people at campuses and his podcast was just ragebait for clicks when he would say something inflammatory.
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>>35082164
It's the way they see it. If someone vocally opposes them they are bad and in the way of the leftist utopia. They believe the ends justify the means, so they have no problem with murder.
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>>35082178
The pendulum swings to the other side. The US is designed to move slowly and resist change. I think most people aren’t expecting much and of course they are not content with being crushed by corporations but having someone assassinated means things could get a lot worse and something might actually happen. The genuine left are an extreme minority and most accept living in a neoliberal/neocon hell because that’s all they’ve ever known. There is no benefit to assassinating people, Trump’s “assassination” probably tipped him over for the presidency and energized his base, the President tried to use Kirk’s assassination to get a blank check to exert more power over the country. I’m not convinced Tyler was a leftist.
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>>35082215
>I’m not convinced Tyler was a leftist.
It's completely irrelevant. It could've been some grand conspiracy and Tyler was just a patsy. Maybe it was the lizard people that did it!? What is relevant is that there is a part of the left who want to see people who oppose or even just disagree with them dead. You can see them in this thread.
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>>35066644
Give him his own medicine. Leftists are fundamentally weak people and crack under the slightest pressure. Tell him he’s a monster for being a leftist. Tell him about all the murders and oppression leftist governments have done (towards their own people). Tell him he’s insecure, bring up the data about how mental illness runs rampant among leftists, how they’re essentially defective and he’d heal his mind if he started thinking differently. Leftists only exist because rightists are too “decent” to use their own tactics against them. Use his own tactics against him.
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>>35082227
>this googly eyed pajeet was too busy fucking his hot gf to plant credible evidence or properly control the narrative
You could say the same thing about the right that they want to see people they disagree with dead or maimed and say it wasn’t that bad. They then justify themselves that their violence is ordained to bring forth a more Godly society. I don’t believe Jesus would want people to commit violence in his name. He probably wouldn’t want leftists to troll conservatives with Kirk memes but it is fun. I don’t think American soifed leftists would have the balls to assassinate their political opponents. Why should I take responsibility for something I had nothing to do with and don’t support.
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>>35082249
>make OP look like a bigger reactionary retard than he already is and ruin one of the few positive relationships he has and his very own brother at that
Good idea
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>>35082264
Dude it's just the way it is. The left have these loud crazies that they like to pretend don't exist. The left would be far more effective if they confronted these types instead of engaging in willful ignorance. It's very off putting to normies.
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>>35082249
>Tell him he’s insecure, bring up the data about how mental illness runs rampant among leftists
I know he started taking psych meds not too long ago. Believe me, I'm well aware that there's a link between leftism and mental illness, and in fact, leftism in its extreme forms is basically indistinguishable from mental illness. I'd hate to use that against him because that obviously is a personal attack, although he did basically say I'm racist and I don't care if kids get shot in school.
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>>35082298
He is on a high horse of false moral superiority like leftists always are, and is also being very personal in his attacks towards you, and no one is challenging his delusions. Even if it is a personal attack, he’s made plenty of those himself. I think it’s much better to point that metaphorical mirror to his face and show him who he really is behind his arrogance. It’s MUCH better than silently cutting off contact with your brother, or engaging with his delusions.
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>>35082297
I’d say both sides have their crazies. But there’s more crazy people on the right who are willing to do violence. Trump got thousands of people do go to D.C. to with the purpose to forcibly overturn the election. Fuentes was furious when Trump admitted once that he actually knew he lost, all this disruption all of the insurrectionists in prison over a lie and Trump’s wounded ego. To be fair to Trump I would also have a wounded ego if I lost to sleepy joe. There’s several reasons conservatives have mock hog tied Joe Bidens on their trucks and leftists don’t have Trump tied up there on their vehicles. 1. craziness factor pubs got them beat, 2. They don’t want their car keyed or their tires slashed (Conservatives would probably shoot someone keying their truck, libs don’t have the balls to and would call the cops), 3. Cops would probably pull them over and try to punish them.
>>35082358
Your brother could say the same thing about you. You’re still crying aboit someone who died over a year ago.
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>>35082391
I haven’t mentioned a single word about Charlie Kirk, I’ve just made responses to the OP. You have the IQ and reading comprehension of a leftist.
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>>35082391
>there’s more crazy people on the right who are willing to do violence.
>only cites muh January 6th
I actually can't believe people are still obsessed with that
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>>35082164
They didn't hate him because he was wrong, they didn't hate him for extremism because he wasn't, which is why they had to cherry pick such blatantly false statements when you actually look at the context. They hated him because he was effective. He was polite, well spoken and entirely through discussion won people over.

They don't care about morality or ethical concerns. They only care about power. You can be a heinous piece of vermin and they'll cheer you and lie to push their agenda, see George Floyd. You can just want to discuss issues rationally and they'll want you dead for disproving their political ideology, which to them is a matter of religion.
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>>35082391
> there’s more crazy people on the right who are willing to do violence. Trump got thousands of people do go to D.C.

You are either the biggest brainwashed faggot on the planet or such a disingenuous, through your teeth liar that you should kill yourself RIGHT now. For that protest, two people died and both were protesters. The most armed demographic in the country protested what they saw as the irrevocable violation of their government and not a shot was fired by them. "the right is more violent" meanwhile the left actually commits all the violence, and the leftist riots destroyed billions of dollars of property and killed lots of people that SAME FUCKING YEAR you LYING RETARD.

The right is not more violent on any metric. The right has the vast majority of gun owners and combat vets, the reason the feds keep trying to push the narrative that the right is violent is because they want an excuse to suppress them because the right is FAR more CAPABLE when it comes to violence than you degenerate faggots that burn your own cities. Because when the right is finally pushed to violence it will be far more dangerous to the elite than the leftists' mostly undirected and self destructive bullshit.

January 6th had two protesters get killed by police, and one police officer had a stroke the next day and the media tried to claim he was murdered for years despite his family and the actual facts saying otherwise. The floyd riots were disastrous and leftists tried a pathetic little revolution in washington, seized a couple blocks for weeks and in that time caused a BUNCH of deaths. You're a rotten, two-faced lying faggot and you should look in a mirror and consider suicide.
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