>Be me, 19m diagnosed Autist - possible ADHD>Go to psychiatrist for ADHD related issues>offered stimulants, tell her that I am anxious of taking stimulants and ask for Wellbutrin as a test trial>Take it at 7am>holy shit, sense of time is better, thoughts are less and more calm, energy is better, depressive, anxious symptoms - gone>fast forward, night>Insomnia.jpeg, can't sleep although it is 3am>Have to try sleep meds, try Trazodone 50mg that I was prescribed>Thighs, arms, hands, jaw muscles - begin shaking uncontrollably within a minute - akin to Myoclonus jerks>they continue for the next 10 minutes then stop>End up going to sleep, stop using Wellbutrin for two days>Try to go cold turkey and take Wellbutrin 150mg for 2 days without relying on sleep meds, can somehow force myself to sleep with music>Everything goes well until second day night>Night, try to go to sleep - feel as if I am sleeping but feel awake>Where I am partially asleep and not fully>Have a dream, while in this state - something about a girl and a baseball bat>She hits me with it>feel a light slap on my left cheek and wake up completely>wtf.png>Eventually fall asleep completely
>have another dream>I am in my bedroom looking at stuff on 4chan>only for something to feel off, bedroom begins to look like my old bedroom>behind monitor, I suddenly hear a weird whisper sound, as if someone is talking to someone>Feel weird, wake up>Go downstairs, everything is so orange, touch my arm, >Realize I am wearing a Hawaiian t-shirt and not my long pijamas>Downstairs, look at my kitchen and livingroom through the hallway>Everything is so orange, as if the sun were in the room>As I look, everything begins to slowly distort - as if it were turning>Walk forward, get to the house door, suddenly hear a bunch of whispers>As if a bunch of people are talking to me in a low voice at the same time>This goes on for 5-10 seconds>Wake up in a literal puddle of sweat, it was a fucking dream in a dream>Pinch myself, I am not dreaming anymore>Hear no voices, have no hallucinations>Spend the next couple of days not taking any meds>Continuously check if I am hearing or seeing things that aren't there>Sight is more distorted in the dark and the edge of periphery but everything seems normal>Whenever I listen to music I check to see if the sound I am hearing is in it>Like 90% of the time it is, or a very slight distortion of a sound that actually is here>Overtime as sleep is fixed I feel better
>Realize Wellbutrin is stimulant-lite and I am too scared to take Stimulants due to the potential psychotic effect - and the possibility of Schizophrenia>Realize that if I don't take stimulants, I may be dealing with executive dysfunction for the rest of my life>Know that I could be overreacting as I have in the past, suffered once from anaphylaxis and ended up losing lots of weight due to thinking that I can die if I try even the slightest of food - So before eating anything I tried the tiniest of crumbs and constantly tested myself for symptoms, got scratched once by a rabbit and ended up spending the whole week thinking that I was going to die from rabies, was bit by a dog and had the same feeling, another time I had stomach pain and thought I was going to die from stomach cancer, or the time where I had throat pain and I thought I may have throat cancer, or the other time where I saw a melanoma type thing on my back and spent the next two weeks thinking I will die from skin cancer, or the time where I felt weird in my jaw and felt that I may have jaw cancer>Feel stupid as it all looks like fearmongeringWhat do I do?
stims are kino and the only thing keeping me from a seppuku rn, might as well try it. theyll start you off on the lowest dose of whatever
Just out the pills on a pizza like toppings And eat them all delicious like
Wellbutrin doesn't work that fast placebo fuck.
Trazodone takes 30 minutes to kick in retard. Therapeutic doses of psychostimulants aren't linked to schizophrenia in the slightest. You might be confusing them with recreational stimulants causing acute psychosis in massive doses in some cases or psychostimulants excasterbating symptoms in existing cases of schizophrenia. God damn retard or underage? Idk...Most tolerable one is focalin or azstarys but insurance will start you on methylphenidate ir or concerta probs
Wellbutrin was a rough ride for me, Adderall is literally "the magic pill that fixed me." Just because one was a bit weird doesn't mean they all will be.
I was on Wellbutrin for a bit, and 150 mg of trazodone for sleep that didn't really do anything. Wellbutrin gave me high blood pressure. The thing about all these weird drugs is that even if they're the same type they could effect you differently. And stop quitting meds cold turkey. You're being dumb and anxious and overly resistant.
>>35072270Ask for a short-acting drug that has worn off by the time you go to bed.
>>35072287So, a few things: ADHDers tend to have low risk awareness, whereas yours seem quite high, more in line with OCD. If you are determined to take medication but are worried about psychosis I would recommend Modafinil. It works on histamines, not norepinephrine, so there is no confusing buzz, just a powerful sense of awakeness. They have a long half-life though so take in the morning with food
>>35074715Half Life
>>35074715>I would recommend Modafinil. It works on histamines, not norepinephrineDid you mean Dopamine? Modafinil is weak dopamine reuptake inhibitor.
>>35074715I have diagnosed Autism, OCD Predominantly obsessional thoughts or ruminations disorder, Moderate recurrent depressive disorder, and was given Disturbance of activity and attention disorder instead of ADHD, as ADHD isn't fully certainAlthough I don't have ADHD diagnosed, a psychologist gave me 9/9 9/9 for ADHD inattentive type in childhood and adult, based on a DSM-5 test. Everything points to ADHD, except not being able to satisfy category E - which as to whether it can be explained by other conditions. I was also told that in Autism stimulating drugs can make one more paranoid.Psychiatrist doesn't care and only cares about treating the symptoms, she only needed strong proof for ADHD so that she doesn't deal with any consequences from the government.>ModafinilThe thing is I think my problem is more oriented towards dopamine, although I have huge energy issues too>>35074002Went to sleep within 30-60 minutes, reaction was within a minute of takingI'm 19 :(>>35073996>>35074114>>35074139I was only on Wellbutrin 150mg XL for one day, two days off, then two days - and then off completely. That doesn't really cause much issuesThanks for the tough love anons, my OCD makes me obsessed over this >>35074669From what I know every psychostimulant fucks your sleep, even short acting ones can cause insomniaI'm partially wondering as to whether I should call my psychiatrist and ask to start stimulants under supervision, got offered that before for other medications
>>35074860>From what I know every psychostimulant fucks your sleep, even short acting ones can cause insomniaWhat you know is completely wrong. Ritalin, for example, has an elimination half-life of 2-3 hours. That means, if you take 5mg at 3pm, by the time you go to bed at midnight, there will only be about 0.4mg left in your system. That isn't enough to notice.
>>35074860It's actually common for psychostimulants to improve sleep if you actually have adhd and dose and time them appropriately. I don't care how much money you have. It's very important that you pay out of the ass and eat ramen for the correct diagnosis as it informs treatment. See a leading expert on ADHD and have them get the differential right. There's an entire hierarchy of things that need to be treated before adhd including OCD.
>>35074992Well I guess I was wrong, thanks for the rectification anon>>35075391Money isn't a problem, my psychiatrist was ready to give me Vyvanse or Concerta based on the information (my first and main psychologist that also has ADHD (and takes Vyvanse) kept telling me that my issues can also be explained by Autism, so I went to another which claimed after many tests that I fit the ADHD profile) - she just said I would have to wait a month or so due to restrictions. Her idea was to just try it and see what happens. She offered me to try Trintellix as an addition as she takes Concerta and Trintellix herself for depression and ADHD, she said it shouldn't have sexual side effects. I chose Wellbutrin because I wanted to kill 3 birds - anxiety, depression and ADHD-esque symptoms (kinda hoping it is all depression) - with one stone. And was worried about what ADHD meds could do to my heart and blood pressure (I had to do an EKG as a prerequisite for stimulants and everything came out fine, had my blood pressure checked and that is fine too). I acknowledge that I may be worrying too much, and taking everything too seriously. As compared to other people I have never smoked, used alcohol, or taken any illegal drugs. And I am generally quite healthy from a diet standpoint. I also just worry as to whether I may get addicted to stimulants, because I find myself to get addicted to things very easily - I'm a junkie for dopamine and adrenaline.>OCDMy issues in regards to OCD aren't generally that much of an issue, it is mainly just specific to particular things such as being obsessed over whether doing X will fuck me over, because when I was younger I used to do so many reckless things that would fuck me up badly that led me to develop such a way of thinking. Or where I obsess over trying to get myself to have control over myself so that I don't lose things or completely forget shit like deadlines. Depression and ruminations are just trauma and feeling like a useless fuck.
>>35074860I sleep better on days I take Adderall because I was able to do things and feel better about myself. Don't take it super late in the day, medicine has half life as the other anon explained.
>>35075532Find a psychiatrist who actually answers emails and is willing to set up phone calls or write this down and explain it even if it's embarrassing. These specific questions are impossible for us to answer espeically about you specific presentation and heart and bp
>>35075595vyvanse puts my fucking ass to sleep i sleep 12-14 hours a day with 40mg vyvanse in the morningdont know where this wakefulness stim meme ever came from
>>35075848I talked to her via message, I explained everything and she thinks everything is fine from a physiological standpoint given the circumstances. Told me to try Quietiapine 12.5mg or melatonin supplements for sleep.I was just scared of continuing taking Wellbutrin, or trying stimulants is all.Getting called a retard by anons has helped a lot and I think I'm more mentally prepared to try stimulants soonThank you frens>t.retard
>>35075894Thanks for listening and being open to what we said, I hope you can find something that works for you. I don't want to promise the world, but for people who find their exact right medication, it's life changing.
>>35076126Thank you fren, I hope you have a great day
