anyone here with stories how they got out of it?what did you do?
yeah I burned out hard and now I never leave my home
I got laid off after 5 years and now I live with my parents at 33 going to community college off my $80,000 in savings to avoid getting another job.
>>35072538Five year plan:>Community college in spring>Maritime academy for 4 years>Join an officer's union and sail 5-6 months out of the year, freedom the other 6-7 months
>>35074580>>35072972>>35074571You didn't get out of the cage, so why did you post? Fucking retard losers.
Saved up & became a NEET (these are probably the best years of my life). I will have to make some changes eventually though.
>>35074593See >>35074592
>>35074592>You didn't get out of the cageI don't work. Explain how I am still in the cage.
>>35075039Which anon are you?
>>35075043The one that fucked your mom
>>35075043 >>35072972My home is not a cage I promise
>>35075140I fucked yours first tho>>35075142It depends, are you able to just remain in your house forever doing nothing or not ?
>>35075155I could retire now but it wouldn't be pretty
>>35075508Why the fuck not, you stupid mother fucker
I'd have to live in an area with those people
>>35072538I own my own buisness and am on a 3 year plan to buy a house.>1.Got let go.I worked a pretty cushy pharmaceutical job as a CAD designer in a rural area. The company went under and the let me go a few weeks before hand on good terms.>2.Couldn't find a new job.Since I was a teenager at the time it was impossible to find another job locally that fit the experience and pay. Rather than taking the hit and degrading my wages, I kept looking.>3.Decide to buy a working companyMassive mistake, bought a lemon and had no idea what I was doing for the first 4 years. Was stolen from, lied to and threatened until I lost everything. >4.Use said experiences to build another company.Did the opposite of what I did in the past. Learned my lesson and studied the community. I designed my entire plan from scratch. Worked a 1000 times better.>5. Researched property law and probate court for another 3 years.Now I know my shit about property I've decided to invest and beat every other real estate agency in town and prices. The only thing that's fixed is time. I'll buy my house up front in full and claim the deed after 3 years due to a loophole in my county's property law.
>>35075534>3.Decide to buy a working companykek what did they tell you was the reason they were selling?
>>35075536They said they "Wanted to retire" and that "they would be willing to teach me everything." After that they would "introduce me to all of their clients."What they actually meant was they would continue to sell to "their friends" teach me absolutely nothing and then blast me on the official company social media stating it was a hostile takeover and to not trust anything I said after getting paid and skipping town with the money. I was 18 at the time, even then I told my parents (who were the ones behind the deal) that it was overvalued after looking up the total inventory cost and coming up with 1/4th the value. They had told me and my folks the client base more than made up for that fact. We never hired a buisness evaluator. I was extremely stupid and agreed to it because of the allure of becoming financially free.4 years later and I couldn't even sell the material without a loss, even though I could do things no one else in my state could. The market I had gone into had completely collapsed due to outsourcing and inflation.
>>35075558>Why not sue?My family was told, both by the prior owner and a (looking back on it stupid) legal friend. Both stated they would drag it out until all of the money was spent on legal fees and more.After that fiasco a lot of hard lessons were learned and I was back to square 1. I found a good market niche and undervalued my services by 1/4th. Everyone now uses my company because I am faster, cheaper, and provide a better service than the other guys ever could. I was able to build a good reputation with the clients I had served over the years and built up a substantial company myself. I hate the loss but it help develop my skills much further than if I hadn't been backstabbed like that. I was far too naive and soft, even still I refuse to be pessimistic and a grouch like the other up and coming bosses I teach for free. Perhaps I'm still an idiot, but if you keep yourself from making the same mistakes then you'll always get better.
>>35074592There is no way out without working a really high paying job, with the exception of being born into wealth or literally winning a huge lottery. Suck my cock if you can't handle that, retard. The best option for the average Joe is a high earning job where you work close to half the year. That's as close as we get.
>>35075582You sound REALLY upset that you never figured out how to get out the cagie, loser
>>35075582>The best option for the average Joe is a high earning job where you work close to half the year.i feel like euros have it best, don't they get entire months off? i wish i could live there
>>35075582Business owner poster here. I would say the keys to never working again are:>PropertyYou need to ensure your expenses are as close to zero as possible. That means owning your land, not having to worry about gas or medical bills etc.>MoneyYou need a large amount of appreciating capital if you want to beat inflation. If your running on a fixed income than your going to be pinching pennies even if you already have a retirement account. You need sources of revenue to keep yourself funded far into the future.>TimeAll of this is worthless if you can no longer use it. So start investing young and make mistakes. That way you can build a firm foundation for the future.At the end of the day, you have to ask if you actually want to stop working entirely, or if you just want more time to do the things you like. I work with a lot of retiree's and a majority of them have no idea what to do when the retire. They literally rot and just fall into escapism until they can no longer stand walk or even breathe. The longer lasting folks always have a hobby or even a job to fall back on. They will fight you if you want to take any of that from them. I know a CPA that's 103. They told me its way to fun for them to stop and if they ever said, "I want to retire" it's because they were ready to die.When I hire my team, I look for people that like the work rather than just the pay. I think it's unfair to put you into a place where you hate the job and work and find it boring. If you want to do something you actually enjoy, the quality of your work is going to be far better than if you were forced into a cage.
>>35072538I got some bonus money from a bunch of brain tumors and bought BTC and turned that into rental houses and hired someone to deal with it then put the money in the market.>>35072972This is what success looks like. Did you find anything good on TV?
>>35076394I'm currently watching a guy fold t-shirts on Youtube
>>35072538My plan is to create creative assets that pay me money passively, like books or 3d models or whatever
>>35075534How much guidance did you get from your parents?Were you reading and studying business in highschool on your own?Business people and their work has always been a black hole to me. It's strange to think their meetings and paperwork results in generating revenue.When I provide others help or services, I am very self-critical. It would be overwhelming to get real customers in any business dealings and not worry about their satisfaction. As if everything I can do can be done easily by everyone else.>>35072538>>35075582>There is no way out without working a really high paying jobThis is likely the easiest and most common path. Or at least it's the path I've been on my whole life.>get stem degree>get good at specific skill (writing software with certain stack)>sell expertise for a salary>invest in etfs and make tremendous gainsI don't know how viable this is for the bright-eyed anymore, it seems like all the water gates have been closed, and only a trickle can permeate into the stream nowI'm not totally out of the wage cage, but I could neet for a decade, and that makes me feel free enough, for now
>>35075621I think what he's saying in reasonable if you ignore the the slander.Most people don't have business sense, and being cattle attending a university program that doesn't require trailblazing is extremely common.You can interpret it as an admittance to being wet behind the ears. Whatever. But without good parents, a mentor, or some other guide - person or blog, school programs alternatives like creating a business don't coalescecc >>35075582
>>35078417>My plan>or whatever
>>35079147I meant it more as a "not limited to" type of thing, YOU FUCKING PESSIMIST, I'M WORKING ON THE ASSETS AS WE SPEAK
>>35079200The assets already exist and nobody wants them, unless they've asked for them, and even then, unless they're begging for them.
>>35074580>>35074592He gets let out of the cage when he isn’t on the high seas?
>>35079218>The assets already existUhh no they don't, what makes you think that? I haven't made them yet lol>nobody wants them, unless they've asked for them, and even then, unless they're begging for them.People buy all kinds of things on impulse, do you feel better now ?
>>35075624i'm italian and all i get is 4 weeks of paid vacations, 2 around christmas and two in august.taking days off is possible but frowned upon
>>35079230Exactly. Half the year, I'm free.
>>35079244You're a fraud
>>35075582>There is no way out without working a really high paying jobthats out of question for me. to get some qualification means time and money and by the moment i am finished i might aswell have to readjust on the market because there is no need, too old and the salary might be that of a beginner anyways. i have to find another solution. hence why its good to get all kinds of answers
>>35079248Do you not believe that this exists, or that I am capable of achieving it? Half the year off is better than nearly every other industry. You live on the ship for a few months working seven days a week, then you're completely free for the same amount of time. Then you go back on. That's the lifestyle.
>>35079234Okay, to apologize for my assholery I will impulse buy whatever great works your produce with claude
>>35079240That's 4x more vacation than an American typically gets.
>>35079292Yeah, but it would be SO MUCH BETTER if you were free ALL of the time.
>>35079312I never said anything about Claude... But it could help me with making a game !!!
>>35079399Then we circle back to spending many, many years building a business or portfolio of real estate/investments etc, winning the lottery, or being born rich. My way just requires you to show up for enough classes to get an unlimited tonnage license.
>>35079354Americans only get 1 week worth of vacation? I thought it was the land of the free !>>35079412I mean, as long as you enjoy it...
>>35079419Federally, Americans are not guaranteed ANY paid vacation leave. American culture is also one of extremely common forced overtime, whether that means coming in early, staying late, both, or even working weekends. 1-2 weeks vacation is the norm outside of unions. Texas also recently repealed the right for water breaks as needed.
>>35072538I've gone to the psychiatrist and say the truth and now I have neetbux.
>>35079426>Americans are not guaranteed ANY paid vacation leaveHoly cringe.. Burger-bros, not like this...
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>>35075534>>35075558something doesn't add up hereso you worked a>cushy pharmaceutical job as a CAD designer in a rural areathen were let go, then you turned 18, then your parents bought you a company?
>>35082620Stop noticing things
>>35072538I live in a garage. Its cheap.
>>35083167Do you live close to the equator? How do you take a shower? And how do you cook? Do you have any photos you're willing to share, that sounds interesting
if you did not got out of the rat race, did you made a borderline stupid decision that brought you some satisfaction, so that you did not care anymore about your debts and work?