I think I actually do okay when it comes to getting to know a woman or even dating. The issue I have is even getting the chance or opportunity to even try. I don't consider myself a severe sperg but I know when I could be making someone uncomfortable and I respect boundaries etc. Like going from the step of not knowing a woman to knowing a woman is impossible for me UNLESS something sets it up. So if we happen to share mutual friends and such(which is uncommon for me). What can I do otherwise? Without having some supporting way of meeting women, I feel helpless. Online dating feels useless to me because women are inundated with messages. So even if I send good ones, she may never see it. What are my other options though? How do you secure even being given a chance?
>>35083782Life after college seems hopeless. No way to easily build relationships with women. I'm trying t figure this out too.
>>35084692I wish there was a place to go that wasn't a bar or something. I also wish male and female hobbies weren't so separate. Meeting a woman that is into video games for example but also isn't exceptionally weird is near impossible. OR even worse, a woman who is into games but only because dudes give her tons of attention on them. I like to think my hobbies aren't completely male dominated but the reality is that they mostly are. And just showing up in womens hobbies always seems performative and weird if you are a guy. Like if I go to a cooking class or a pilates class or something.
>>35083782>>35084692>>35087022swallow your pride and ask your mother for help. you need help from inside the network after you miss all the natural opportunites of youth.
>>35087223Both of my parents are deceased.
>>35087239sister/in-law?doesnt really matter who just need someone on the inside who cares enough to try. also you have to be a gracious normie about it and not be too picky
>>35083782yeah nowadays most gen z men only ask a woman out once it's "safe" and he's known her for some time in a non-dating context, for example as part of the same friend group. this is also why men always get crushes on their friend's gfs if she even semi-regularly hangs out with the boys and why the gfs friends start finding the bf attractive, familiarity breeds attraction.i would simply suggest finding someone at work or through your social circle. make more friends and expand your social circle -> get invited to places with women they know and who don't have their guard up -> become familiar with a girl. the answer is simply expanding your social circle, it is infinitely easier than talking to random women you don't know and has better chances of success.
>>35087022>Meeting a woman that is into video games for exampleLmao. A woman into video-games is an asian chick who plays valorant and e-whores. Not someone you can talk to about metroidbrainias and 4x games. Just look for a normie woman and keep the video games private. A girlfriend doesn't & shouldn't need to share your interests, just match your disposition. Cooking classes don't belong to women either, that's fucking retarded
