What do you do to resist drinking/doing drugs when you're by yourself and things are quiet? I know I can't keep drinking every night, it's already causing my health to decline and not to mention it's gotten me fat, and weed/drugs are for losers, but nothing else relaxes me and puts me at ease as much as having a drink and a toke.Everyone always says>Well you're just killing boredom! You need to find something to replace it with, get some more hobbies!But that misses the point. No one is doing hobbies every waking hour, You can't just be off having random adventures 24/7, you will eventually have to face a few quiet hours by yourself at the end of the day. That's when I always find myself pouring up, it's not the activity, it's the *feeling*. There are going to be times when you're alone. There are going to be times when you're bored. How do you not drink/get high during those times specifically?
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>>35087848yeah this board sux
>>35087854It's a slow board fagtron.And I struggle with this myself, so I don't have a lot of good advice for you, other than that you have to just have discipline, and be better. My girlfriend died from alcohol a little over four months ago, and half the time, I feel like I just want to go out the same way. But she wouldn't want that for me. So idk.
Don’t make it easy to access. If your liquor is within arms reach, you’re probably going to drink it. Even then, there is no “solution” other than self control. Either you drink or you don’t.>t. former binge drinker who drinks 2-3 times a month now
>Will be 2 years sober on NYEI think once you stack up enough drink free days it just would feel shitty to break the streak. Early on the boredom was filled with food and other drinks like soda and a few times 0.0% NA beer. Had to kick all that too because I started gaining weight. You can try exercise, also rotting alternately. Play a video game, watch stupid videos, listen to music, play guitar. Whatever it takes really. Do I wish I was drunk even right now? Yes. But I just can deal with it now and know i'm not gonna do that.>>35088135That is good too. Don't go to bars in the first few months. Don't walk by the beer aisle in the sttore.
>>35087705I mean you resist by not being addicted to drugs OP. We're usually doing something and if we're not, we're resting. I think you're exaggerating the amount of time being spent on literally nothing versus the time that your drinking occupies time spaces where you could be doing something else. Hobbies are not just things to fill dead air. Hobbies are activites you enjoy doing, so when you do them, you get that moreish feeling and time flies, so in a way, hobbies expand like a gas to fill the quiet times and in a way where you don't care about the time. So, when you talk about quiet times, some people are literally enjoying life to the point of the only quiet time being when they go to bed.
>>35087705Get a girlfriend man, thats it
>>35088278Oh come on, you know what I mean by "quiet time." Like that couple of hours after dinner but before bed when you're not tired. Yes people are usually doing *something* but on work nights you're not usually going out to a social or going camping or going to community theater rehearsal. Even say you did those hobbies, you'd have at least a little bit of time to knock around by yourself (unless you're a parent of young children). >Hobbies are activites you enjoy doing, so when you do them, you get that moreish feeling and time fliesBy that tack the thing I seem to enjoy doing is getting drunk and high and watching youtube videos and shitposting. Which is bad. What I'm trying to say is that nothing really gives me that "moreish" feeling anymore. Any hobby I try to pick up or even try to get back into just feels like a chore. The closest I've gotten to that feeling lately was getting back into fishing but drinking and fishing go hand in hand like peanut butter and jelly. For that matter there are a lot of hobbies you can do with a brew in your hands.It could be that I have fried dopamine receptors. Even when I'm sober like right now, I just default to shitposting and youtube or anime. I have like a whole shelf of books I could read instead, but don't, and I used to LOVE reading even into my 20s.
>>35088135>Even then, there is no “solution” other than self control. Either you drink or you don’t.So basically white knuckle every day I'm sober until it becomes habit? Sounds miserable. >Don’t make it easy to access. If your liquor is within arms reach, you’re probably going to drink it.I never keep it stocked, I try to only ever by what I'll drink that night, or maybe the next if it's the weekend. I can't really keep a home bar or a few brews for guests around because I will and do just drink whatever I have lol.>>35088209>You can try exercise, also rotting alternately. Play a video game, watch stupid videos, listen to music, play guitar. Whatever it takes really.My problem is that I've tried a lot of those things and it either feels like I'm forcing it and it's not enjoyable, or I end up doing the thing but also with a drink (and usually a joint) in my hands.Also ideally I'd like to cut my drinking back to like Friday/Sat nights and special occasions, but I also acknowledge that most drinkers can't go back to moderation and need to cut it out altogether, or at the very least do need a period of being totally dry before trying moderation.
>>35087705>>35087848Put down the glass
Should clarify that by "drugs" in my case specifically I mean weed. In my mid 20s I tried or did on and off stuff like coke, psychedelics, ecstasy, whip-its, even snorted what was supposedly H once, but weed is the only thing I've done regularly and continue to do alongside alcohol. And I started drinking and toking when I was around 19-20, was completely sober before that.Weed is probably less bad for you than alcohol but I still want to give it up for several reasons:>weed is a sin in the catholic church (don't care what you think of the church, it's my life)>hard to stick to a diet with munchies>causes me to hack and cough which aggravates my GERD>starting to fuck with my long term memory capacity and verbal intelligence>It truly makes you lazy and ok with boredom/not living life to the fullest potential
>>35088313>I'd like to cut my drinking back to like Friday/Sat nightsIt helped me in the beginning to mark days I did or didn't drink on the calendar (like a real paper calendar) Count any wins and streaks. Like if you can limit yourself to 1 or 2 drinks that's a win, if you can not drink 2 days in a row win. Eventually you can get better and better wins like a week with no drinking or a week only having 1-2 per night. Write down how many you had, and X out the box if you had none. Even if you can't quit it will take stock of how much drinking you are doing.
>>35088347>In my mid 20s I tried or did on and off stuff like coke, psychedelics, ecstasy, whip-its, even snorted what was supposedly H onceI think that messed you up more than any weed or booze you do now
>>35089181>The drugs you've done at most a half dozen times five or ten years ago messed you up more than the things you're presently so addicted to that you can't even sleep unless you're drunk or highI think you're a moron
>>35089096I actually have tried doing this, but the problem is I always end up running into a period where I end up drinking every day for like a week or two straight, and just stop marking anything during those times. I can try to be more consistent though. Right now I'm going to try to make it through today and tomorrow without a drink. Wish me luck because I did not sleep well AT ALL last night while sober so I'm cranky and have a sleep deprivation headache, which often drive me to relapse.
>>35087705I need to smoke and drink so bad, they are like the only things keeping me from ruminating all day and getting nothing done.
>>35087848Shouldn't have picked that pic then idiot.
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>>35089821>I need to smoke and drink so bad, they are like the only things keeping me from ruminating all day and getting nothing done.This isn't the way you want to operate. Yeah it can be fun to smoke a little joint-a-roo and crack open a few beers while working, it can make some of the dull repetitive shit more tolerable and distracts your mind, but it catches up with you. I'm finding more and more that if I try to lock in and actually focus on the work, I'm less swayed to drink or smoke because I get invested in wanting to see it done properly and without being distracted or getting sleepy.
>>35087705you need a reason to be sober. for me when of the starting points was i would get drunk and watch a whole season of anime of a weekend and then forget 90% of it, whats the point in that? if you have any hobbies that you do need to be sober for like drawing, reading, even playing video games well. exercise is one of the best ways to replace drug addiction, its a visceral feel good feeling and alcohol will hinder your progress making want to quit drinking. also when you are drunk or high while you sleep, the sleep doesnt count, and it will make you delirious, so any task where you value mental acuity means at least being sober while sleeping
>>35087705My endless rage to kill all JewsThat's literally my only reason In order to kill Jews I must be peak physical
>>35090266>for me when of the starting points was i would get drunk and watch a whole season of anime of a weekend and then forget 90% of it, whats the point in that?I love getting drunk and watching anime on the weekends, but I have no trouble remembering anything from when I'm intoxicated. I've only had true blackout memory loss while drinking like once or twice. >also when you are drunk or high while you sleep, the sleep doesnt count, and it will make you delirious, so any task where you value mental acuity means at least being sober while sleepingI've heard everything about how it interferes with REM sleep and all that bullshit, but bro I'm at the point where I CAN'T SLEEP AT ALL if I'm not drunk. I'm fiending right now not because I'm physically craving it, but because I'm dog tired and my head and eyes hurt after all day. A few years ago I took a shot at sobriety after a breakup and had the same problem and it persisted for WEEKS, and it really never even went away my sleep is just atrocious unless I'm literally sedated.
>>35091028This was good motivation for a while but eventually you turn 35 and have to face the fact that you are not going to lead an army into Jerusalem, and no matter how much you whitepill and hopemaxx that things are just going to get worse in your lifetime.
>>35087705Almost 4 years dry now, last time I drank I rolled and broke my ankle so that's what made me stop drinking without going to AA or anything.What keeps my sober is knowing that I am saving money, not gaining weight, not saying/doing dumb shit that I later end up regretting and not injuring myself and ending up in the hospital again.I also play more video games and watch streams, I also read up more hobbies and interests and even trying them out. Seeing a therapist has also helped me.Good luck and hope I helped.
>>35088315Kys
>>35091182I can relate
>>35088299>Oh come on, you know what I mean by "quiet time." Like that couple of hours after dinner but before bed when you're not tired.Here are some things that I might do during this time: >journaling>reading>art>knitting>movie>video games>cleaning bedroom (like tidying)>phone calls to others>scrolling social medias>planning for tomorrow>longer bedtime routine like shaving or bathIt's often a mix of these and also some days overlap with social events so although the majority are these, sometimes it's not even a part of the day i.e. out hanging out or hooking up and I get dinner after. My dinnertime is usually only an hour or two before bed anyway, if not after my earlier bedtime. >By that tack the thing I seem to enjoy doing is getting drunk and high and watching youtube videos and shitposting. Which is bad.Yeah it's bad but extremely common. I said this because it's often the case in addiction that you have nothing going on, there's a darth of meaning, connection, life going on. >but drinking and fishing go hand in hand like peanut butter and jelly. and everything is a nail if you're hammer. >For that matter there are a lot of hobbies you can do with a brew in your hands.exactly. >It could be that I have fried dopamine receptors. Even if that is the case you can still recover them. It sounds like you know that you need to quit. As for the difficulty of doing stuff, yeah it sucks but the only way you get through that is by doing it and then over time it gets easier. Before absolutely anything though, you gotta give up the booze imo. Whatever you enjoy about the drugs you can get from your own body in sobriety but if you continue with the drugs it just gets harder and harder to access those feelings and the drugs ruin both spirit and health.
>>35090170The nicotine helps me dissociating and working, the alcohol puts me to sleep.
