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General for the discussion of rodent care with a focus on rats
3 year old edition
Pic rel is Burroughs taken in June who passed on Saturday at about 3 years old
>Rats need love
>Rats need companionship
>Rats need free roam time
>Other rodents welcome
Rat first aid: http://neratsociety.co.uk/articles/firstaid.shtml
Good and bad food: https://squeaksandnibbles.com/safe-foods-for-rats/
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>>5061960
Bless this thread.
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NY rats are getting crazy.
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Thank you for restarting the thread. I'm so happy with how many rat lovers there were in the last one.
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I work at a restaurant that has rat poison outside. They also sometimes spray some different kind of nasty poison into rat holes.

Right now there's a big rat living under the cardboard dumpster. I've been giving him croissants and a water dish.

Should I discretely place a zap trap inside the fence around the dumpsters to keep him from going through a slow and agonizing death? I don't know what to do. What do you think?
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>>5062314
>pic
that shit makes me so sad v_v
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>Rats need love
>Rats need companionship
>Rats need free roam time
hooman need that too *smooch*
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felt bad for 2 fishtank rat babies on craigslist, met up and got them to eventually integrate with my older men, couldn't get a look at the second one's genitals because it was nervous, then i get home and discover she's a girl. I'm thinking it's over
theyre both 4-8 weeks old by my guess and she's looking suspiciously round. hopefully somebody local who breeds is willing to trade me for a boy and won't feed her to snakes, don't know if a spay is possible that young and it would be expensive as shit if they could
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>>5062314
Can you try to lure him out and relocate him? If you've been placing food, maybe he's getting used to you
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>>5062617
I've heard that rodents relocated to an unfamiliar area usually don't last long.
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>>5062314
If they poison the rats and there are still rats, there's a good chance that those rats are immune to the poison. They are basically feeding them.
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>>5062314
Damn anon that pic. Without the text it's the usual edge lord stuff I move on by but damn!
In terms of dealing with wild rats >>>/diy/ has a stupid question thread perfect for this. However, an important tip left out is ensuring there are no sources of food for them, this is the best way to deal with to ensure they aren't around
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I am DIS-CHEESED at the lack of rodent posting.
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>>5063721
i don't wanna repost too much, even though these threads are slow and gritty
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you'd think rats would be the ultimate disease resistant lifeform but if the rats subreddit is anything to go by they're about as healthy as an inbred pug
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>>5063856
doesn't help that most pet rats are from feeder mills and have dogshit genetics
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>>5063839
>sneaky-plotting yes yes
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Local shelter got a bunch of rats... I've been thinking of getting some. If I go there I know I will immediately want to take them home.
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>>5063894
this rat is responsible for the gravitational orbit of the earth
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I've recently gained a desire to get pet rats, but I don't think that I could handle the short lifespans. I haven't had a dog in years because I couldn't handle that, and rats are so much shorter
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>>5064002
Unless they're a new litter you're taking on a shorter time with them and risk poor ownership / breeding but the shelter should be up front about that otherwise they risk getting them back. If they are from a bad owner etc but you are prepared to be more patient, go for it. I've had a few rescues and while they've taken more work, they have been worth it in the long run. Talk to the shelter and if you feel comfortable with it, enjoy and come here for advice when needed.
>>5064218
It's a hard one to get used to and did take me a while. Each death sucks but you learn to accept their timescale. I just had a guy pass a little before 3 years old (pic in OP) and while I miss him it was easier to see him go peacefully at a very old age
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pretty sure one of my boys has a zymbals gland tumor, it's in the right place and the mass is firm
a while ago he had a lump that disappeared overnight before i could schedule the vet so maybe it will be like that but probably not
he's barely even one and a half, i was really hoping he would make at least 2 and then die in his sleep or something so i wouldn't have to make the choice to euthanize
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>>5064218
it's really not for the faint of heart, i'd love to try but i'm also worried about burgeoning vet bills for these short-lived critters
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>>5064218
Yea same, I started looking around the internet to see if someone succeeded in breeding a long-lived line of rets but haven't found anything. We can have dogs smashed and slammed every which way, and scale-less ball pythons, but not rats that live for 5+ years. Sad.
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>>5064469
got home after work and he has bloody discharge in his ear canal and is walking like he's drunk. i hope there's an emergency vet open on sundays because i really don't want him to go through when it gets worse. it might be fucked up but I'm praying he goes in his sleep so he doesn't have to go through the pain and stress and i don't have to see him decline
this is my first photo of him i would smash my nuts with a brick over and over again to get him back to healthy
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>>5064617
>i would smash my nuts with a brick over and over again to get him back to healthy

I'm sorry you have to go through this, anon. I know the feeling.
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>>5061960
RIP OP's Ratto
F
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>>5064617
Red/Brown discharge can be porphyrin, not great but usually a sign of infection
At that age, surgery is likely an option too but listen to the vet
I hope you're goes well for you anon, best of luck to you and ratbro
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>>5065300
confirmed ZGT, he is no longer with us. i recently got new babies so i will be staying occupied but i still miss him
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>>5065763
A very handsome lad. It will always never be enough time. My condolences, anon.
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>>5065763
>the rat cycle continues
They will always live on in your heart and you will look back mostly with happiness
I'm really struggling to find a good breeder in my area at the moment and might be down to one soon! I've a 3 year old losing weight and very much slowing down, the other is a rescue and on vet advice is isolated due to a skin condition and mobility issues
I know I'm going to have a big empty cage looking at me soon
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>>5067028
what a weird looking banana
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>>5067038
It's not a banana, it's.. it's.. it's a potato, you swine!
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I WILL SNIF YOU, HOOMAN, UNTIL YOUR SCENT IS UNDERSTOOD
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>>5067028
>rats can have their own bodyweight in banana as a treat-snack :)
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I’d very much like to breed rodents for my future pet snake and lizard I don’t want to go full sadistic is there any type of rat or mouse that as a tendency to be assholes to there own like a type of rat other rats would hate
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>>5067238
urge to stroke ratto is rising
>tfw no ratto to stroke
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>>5067266
I'm not so sure a fully-grown anaconda would do well in NYC
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>>5067266
Not really, I'd suggest politicians but I think they might poison the poor snake
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>>5067263
A rat suspiciously shaped like a banana typed this post
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>>5061960
Have they bred rats that live as long as dogs yet?

Friggin love the the little dudes, but I'm a fuckin weirdo and it takes me a while to actually bond with things. I don't want to get something only to just start getting attached and have it croak on me, y'know?
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>>5068336
Not really, Gambian pouched rats live up to 5 years and are similarly friendly & social like fancy rats
There are lab rats bred to live up to 5 years but you need to be a registered lab to get them. Further proof these scientist cunts aren't here to make our lives better. Trust the science? When they trust me with a 5 year rat!
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>>5068696
I suppose they're afraid of super rats escaping into the wild and taking over the earth with their lengthier lifespans. I, for one, would welcome our rat overlords.
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>>5068696
Kiked once again
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>>5064218
these guys and jumping spiders have roughly the same lifespans, and they're so goddamn smart. what a cruel world
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>>5068696
>similarly friendly & social like fancy rats

They're not, though; that's the problem with them. Gambos are a lot more independent and aloof than fancy rats, they're closer to raccoons or cats than anything.
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>>5068944
I've had betta fishes that outlived some of my rats. It's enough to drive a man to drink.
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>>5067503
I miss stroking my boys
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whats the longest a rat can be pregnant for?
ive had a rat for almost 3.5 weeks and i have a suspicion shes pregnant but its not obvious and its been way too long
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>>5070191
>About 23 days or just under 3.5 weeks
If she's not pregnant and has abdominal swelling, get them to a vet
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Went to see some rats for adoption today. The two I was most interested in came from the same home but the staff said they had to be separated now because they started fighting. Seemed unusual to me. They were both sleeping so I didn't get to actually see them.
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>>5070779
In my experience they grow out of it unless they've got underlying issues e.g. one of my guys has over active sebaceous glands and gets easily irritated by other rats and it's alone on vet advice.
Any bite marks etc on them?
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>>5071774
I couldn't tell. They were both hidden and sleeping. These girls I think were about a year old. I think it could just be the stress of being in a shitty cage in a shelter but I am kinda wary of adopting fighting rats as a first time owner.
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>>5072219
Different anon, but I suggest getting baby rats. Unironically, craigslist has some people selling baby rats sometimes and I'd say consider that for your options. I've gotten mine from Craigslist, Petco, and Feeder and had the best experience with the craigslist since they were loved from the start.

Having had a few generations of rats, I prefer getting them as young as possible as time flies and a year old couple of girls could be closer to death than you would hope for as a first time owner.
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>>5072419
>getting them as young as possible as time flies and a year old couple of girls could be closer to death than you would hope for
This is a very good point, it's worth considering them as rescues and you don't start with rescues
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>>5064469
one of my boys just turned 2 and last week he suddenly had a lump the size of my thumb on his left side. Picked him up today and found a second lump the size of a marble on his right side that wasn't there 2 days ago. Fucking sucks :(
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>>5074481
>2 years like clock work
Get them to a vet, it might just be for palliative care but Burroughs in my OP was 1yr 10 months when he had 3 quick growing lumps out, they did come back but he lived about 8 more months. It sounds like they are growing quick so, act soon. Be prepared to get them some treats and you spend good quality time together
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burroughs is a nice name 4 a rat, i salute him op
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I keep hearing about all kinds of different successful longevity experiments for rats, but did they ever try to combine them all? I keep searching papers and articles, and keep finding nothing. Anyone have any idea?
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did you know that there are mice living inside your walls right now?
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>>5075125
But i don’t own a cat. There’s nothing to attract mice. I do monthly urine checks and have baited live catch stations all over and there are 0 rodents
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>>5075125
first world countries build their walls out of concrete so no
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Why did God not give them thumbs? Was he afraid they would be too powerful?
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>>5075857
If primates didn't exist, I think either rats or raccoons would be the animals most likely to evolve into a human-like society.
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>>5061960
Will female rats get upset or depressed if I take their babies away without them seeing me do it?
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is my new rat pregnant or just chunky?
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>>5075857
>>5075864
It's not just the thumbs, human communication is far more advanced than any other species. Nothing we have observed in animals even comes close. I don't know if rats have the potential for communication as sophisticated and deep as ours
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>>5077109
fr fr no cap
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>>5076478
Rats have naturally round bellies, that's just her normal anatomy
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You will live in ze ratcage
You will run on ze mouse wheel
You will be picked up for no reason and kissed repeatedly
You will own no cheese, and you will be boggling
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>>5076478
can't tell just yet
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>be last night
>get woken up by one of my rats screaming
>literally shrieking in agony
>stumble out of bed and run to their cage
>screaming immediately stops
>both rats are calmly sitting in their hammock
Why the fuck would this happen? Don't tell me I dreamt it, I definitely heard the screaming when I was awake.
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>>5076312
I think you need to research breeding a bit too pin that down and/or wait for someone with good breeding experience
>>5077109
https://youtu.be/25LYVxTUZhM
More than you might think but not really enough
>>5077482
I was thinking something like this when feeding my guy mealworms
Anyone got any experience with an underweight rat? He's not foraging but will eat what I hand him, we'be got him on a fatty diet as he's just skin and bone. He's got a lot of issues already and I'm wondering if he never really learnt to dig through his food bowl or if his mobility issues give him problems while eating as he can't balance on his back legs
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Never had a pet rat but I think they're cute as fuck. It makes me sad how short lived they are, don't think I could handle the pain of getting one and having to say goodbye so soon.
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>>5077576
Time for rat CCTV
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>>5077992
I dont want to breed on a mass scale, I just want some successor rats when mine get old but Im thinking of just feeding the excess ones to a snake or turtle
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>>5077576
They're doing the rat version of those tiktok retards screaming HELP HELP ME in public
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>>5077576
Sorry, that was me, stubbed my toe
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>>5078389
>feeding the excess
Or look for people to adopt via market place etc.?
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I love Popcorn so goddamned much
I tried to play with him this morning took him out on the couch and he scared the fuck out of my dog and then jumped off and ran behind the couch and tried to run in the laundry room. His favorite thing is to escape and go to like 5 places: behind the kitchen hutch, behind the fridge (TERRIBLE! NAUGHTY), the bedroom closet or under/on the bed. He has climbed into bed with me like 5 times I wake up and suddenly he's just there. I weigh down the lid but he pushes it off he is a Hulk
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>>5079483
That's crazy, I didn't know they could be so full of wanderlust.
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>>5079483
What an adorable ball of fluff!
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>>5078001
You can have a rat dynasty. Rat children carrying legacy of their parents
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>>5079818
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>>5061960
Reminder to cuddle your buddies this weekend
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>>5062314
Can you link to the comic this is from?
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>>5062624
bullshit, rats are survivors
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>>5081763
Cute! Loveley! Is that el ratto or la mousé?
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>>5082113
el amigo
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>>5082113
he's a ratto
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why do you chew on my wires? wires are made of copper and rubber, they are not tasty, they provide no nutritional value
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>>5082253
they just want a nibble of the ol' spicy noodle
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>>5079759
Thank you
He is so pissy tonight I changed his cage but don't have new sand for him but kept the sand bath in there. He keeps running into the empty sand bath and "popcorning" in nothing especially because I played with him (he always liked to bathe to get the human scent off him afterwards). My son craves the sand but has none I feel soooo bad I'm getting it tomorrow



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