Deep sea creatures are harmless. The only aspects of the ocean rational to be afraid of are: drowning/storms, sharks, and venomous jellyfish/conches/whatever, which are all shallow water concerns anyways.People piss their pants at images of ugly deep sea fish because they're ignorant and don't know they're almost all a foot or less in length; you could crush them with your bare hands. Take the infamous Bigfin squids for example: their body from mantle tip to arms is a foot or so in length. How could one possibly hurt you? Its tentacles are wire thin and its beak is probably less than an inch wide.The ONLY deep sea creature I could fathom being a rational concern is the Humboldt squid, but even then it has no confirmed kills and you could easily stab it to death with a dive knife if you have no other choice.
this reads like one of those>why the fuq are you scard of the ring girl or grey aliens bro just punt thempostsYeah no shit, we don't think bigfins are actually going to kill divers. Same as we don't think a spooky skeleton with no muscles is going to kill us. But it's still creepy even if we know from a material lense they are harmless.After all, why do you think phobia is in Thalassophobia to begin with?
>>5116435Magnapinna can't kill you, but it will rape you with its tentacles from a mile away. That's the fear OP.
>>5116435Humboldts hunt in packs and each one is the size of a medium dog. They've found bodies that have been partially eaten by them but couldn't determine if they were killed by them.To me that counts at least as half.Negligence or nefarious acts committed at sea is probably still going to be 99% what kills people in the ocean.
>>5116442>Humboldts hunt in packs and each one is the size of a medium dogYou're telling me we have had squid dogs the entire time and we HAVEN'T domesticated them yet?
>>5116451They only live a year or two. The moment they show weakness they probably get cannibalized. Probably don't have enough time to even train them the upside is you have so many generations of them you probably could get to a not aggressive variety in less time.
>>5116435>Deep sea creatures are harmlessonly the small onesthe big ones are huge and definitely not harmlessalso a phobia is inherently irrational
>>5116456it's sad that cephalopods have such short lifespans
>>5116435Thalassophobia isn't a fear of deep sea creatures, retard. It's a fear of deep bodies of water.
>>5116492>It's a fear of deep bodies of water...which is where the sea monsters live
Oh we're doing the reddit root word + word phobia equals clinical phobia. Agoraphobes break down at the thought of going outside. No one trembles at the thought of tube worms.
>>5116435>t. colossal squid
>>5116492Most self proclaimed thalassophobes justify it either with photos of spooky looking fish or "ooooOOOooOoo we've only explored x% of the ocean oooOoo imagine what could be down there"
>Fresh water sting rays just sit on the bottom of rivers being fat chuds>Largest sting ray in the world are freshies from AustraliaWhy can't there be giga huge ray-like animals down in the depths, vacuuming the ocean floor?
>>5116521Not enough food down there. It's true that we've only explored a small % of the depths, but we do some basic facts. There's just no food source which could sustain some massive beast of the depths. There's plenty of creepy stuff down there, it's just small.
>>5116530things like this look really creepy at first, but it's barely over an inch long so not exactly threatening.
>>5116531>>5116517IMHO the "unknown" angle is the real scary part. Not just "who knows what could be down there", but also just simply "I have no idea where the threat is located". Huge beasts like dinosaurs or dragons are scary because they are destructive, but they're also easy to spot and therefore possible to avoid. But in the ocean something could easily come up behind you or beneath you.As an example, imagine you're forced to cross some big outdoor space with a T-Rex in it. Compare that with having to negotiate a cluttered room which may contain one or more highly venomous snakes. They're both scary, but for totally different reasons.
>>5116435test
>>5116435I like the vampire squids
>>5116511some people do actually have that kind of reaction to deep water
as someone with thalassophobia none of these pictures are scary, you should be posting pictures of giant sea creatures, not fish with pointy teeth
>>5116521Here you go
>they ain't that big so they can't be that bad!
>>5116435This post was written by a deep one's mind slave's hands. Not today Cthulhu!
>>5116435Yeah phobias are retarded that's almost as if they were meant to describe an IRRATIONAL fear of something, you dumb nigger.
>>5116597>of giant sea creaturesDo you mean things like whales, walruses, and and large fish? Or are we talking fictional sea monsters?
>>5116522>>5116527>>5116529>>5116589All better than your average Brit
>>5116690walruses aren't scary, big fish aren't really scary except for maybe the biggest basking sharks and whale sharks. Stuff big enough to easily swallow you whole is scary.big whales are scary, with their alien vastness. The incomprehensible deepness and overwhelming size of the ocean is scary, and whales embody that. Fictional sea monsters are also scary.
>>5116531shits cool as fuck, the only people find arthropods creepy are faggots
>>5116748I find whale sharks cute but these are kind of horrifying. I assume they are harmless but seeing that gaping maw headed towards me out of the blue would make me shit a brick.
>>5116517Yeah, actual thallasaphobia is being on the second story of a large building a half mile away from the shore, looking towards the ocean, and having a panic attack because there's so much fucking water and it looks like it's towering above you. Floating docks? Absolutely not. Piers? Forget about it. Getting on a boat? You can go fuck yourself. An olympic sized swimming pool? Hard pass. I don't even like crossing bridges over small rivers. It fucking sucks and it has gotten worse as I've gotten older.
>>5116922you just have hydrophobia, did you get bit by a bat or something
>>5116435local sea monster not so tough after getting mogged by human hand!
All these monsters are small and not threatening.
>>5116612>The name "cookiecutter shark" refers to its feeding method of gouging round plugs, as if cut out with a cookie cutter, out of larger animals. Marks made by cookiecutter sharks have been found on a wide variety of marine mammals and fishes, and on submarines, undersea cables, and human bodies.>This species has been known to travel in schools.
>>5116435Thalasophobia isn't a fear of fish. The only retard here is you
>>5116748it's perfectly comprehensibledo you get scared when you turn the lights off in the the basement too?
>>5116599Oi Rey
>>5116435never heard people actually being afraid of getting eaten or attacked by these things they are just scary looking because of their weird proportions and alien apperance. there also would neer bee a scenario where you would be able to interact with them face to face because of the water pressure
>>5116435I dive near monterey and tomales bay and I'm always piss scared of encountering a great white. It's why I stay near shore and you'll never catch me near the open ocean. Fucckkk thatI'm not scared of the bigger sharks like the sevengill they might fuck my arm up but I will probably leave alive. They're more interested in fish. Great whites however will bite your arm off just to taste. I have to stop reading these threads or they're going to put me off my hobby
>>5116995Pretty much all deep diving mammals are recorded having cookiecutter scars.It's like a guaranteed layer of freak piranhas live below us, ready to bake whatever's dropping.
>>5116435>OP doesn’t know what thalassophobia is: the thread
>>5116517Brother just swim in the open ocean ask yourself whats down there and see if you keep your cool
>>5116435Whatever you say, anglerfish
>>5116460We need to breed long lived cephalopods for science.
>>5116435Based deep sea killer OP
>>5116435What about the giant and colossal squids? Giant squids are known to be aggressive, even when they are dying in shallow water. We don't know how an healthy individual of these squids would react if you swam next to it but i wouldn't want to try, they are surely not gentle giants.
>>5116460hello fellow fish, don't you think squids should run this place?
>>5116435I can see it with Humboldt SquidsEven a single one is 1.8-2m long and can crush diver's chainmail, but they swim in big flocksYou'd feel like a really small morsel among these things
>>5116522>He linked the fire
>>5122712has never ever left a witness*
Do i have thalassophobia? I would never be able to jump into deep water alone.
>>5116435>Deep sea creatures are harmless.>>5116451Squids were documented to capture and drag divers. If a Giant Squid wanted to fight a Sperm Whale, which is near peer it's size, it will. That's just food at that point.
>>5126506They're not remotely peers on the low end a sperm whale weights 80,000 lbs on the high end weights 1000 lbs. That would be like you fighting a ferret or a hedgehog. Volume/length is not so power as a survival strategy when you're not much denser than water.
>>5128605squid tentacles typed this
>>5129742squidward tortellini
>>5116591this thing is so fucking cool
phobias are retarded by definition your are illiterate
>>5116522Rows of cigarette stubs
>>5116511>AgoraphobesACKTUALLY, agoraphobia is an intense fear of situations where escape might be difficult or help unavailable if something occurs.Its not about going outside or a fear of outside spaces. Imagine you have a health condition where you might urgently need to use the bathroom at any moment, so you'd feel very uncomfortable in a situation where you can't just leave to use the bathroom (being in a car for example). That's an example of actual agoraphobia.
As a diver the scariest things in the sea are by far water currents and small fish who can leave you crippled. I have never found the deep sea scary by itself and im very fascinated by it but the thought of going down this empty stretch of nothing on a tiny submarine being unsure if it's gonna be reliable or just break up on me suddenly is fucked up. Im aware that realistically there's not gonna be a big leviathan or dead angels down there and it's mostly tiny fish I can hold between my hands so the enviroment and the sea itself is a far scarier prospect than what lurks in it. Im sure anyone who has worked on a ship with hyper hazardous waters can see where im coming from. Fish are all your friends though
>>5131132Looks like that sand pit thing from start wars. Scarred me for a couple years as a kid in the 80s.
>>5116435I thought this was a naked dude raping a deep sea creature based on the thumbnail.
>>5116769Based as hell
>>5125697Combination of gigantism and nutrients deprived environment. They literally can't calorically afford to not grasp whatever is in their tentacles reach.Regarding so called "deep sea gigantism" where the fuck did that conclusion came from? Almost all obligate bathypelagic fish are from small to tiny and the only prominent "examples" are the colossal squid, giant squid and "giant" isopod, THREE species under the mesopelagic zone just happened to be gigantic and suddenly we make it a teleonomic trend when there's tens if not hundreds of larger species on the euphotic.
>>5132838>They literally can't calorically afford to not grasp whatever is in their tentacles reach.This is part of why deep sea gigantism is a thing. Larger bodies means they have more space to store the little nutrients they have and larger animals typically have lower metabolic rates than smaller ones. Also not having to deal with as many predators is a nice feature. I have also heard that larger bodies can preserve their body temperature better thhan smaller ones so cold enviroments, which is where most examples of this phenomena are found, arent as big of a deal for them>THREE speciesThere's plenty of large crustaceans like spider crabs, overly enlarged shrimp and so on in the deep that are far larger than their shallower counterparts. It's just that deep sea gigantism is about as much of an online meme as the megalodon still being alive so people immediatly associate it with unrealistically large leviathans instead of moderatly oversized shrimps and big jellyfish
>>5133022Lion's manes are not even truly "deep sea" they are borderline euphotic higher mesopelagics.
>>5116435The fear isn't the weird fish, it is the enormous vastness of the ocean. I think this River Monsters video does a good job capturing that fear when Jeremy Wade is in the middle of the ocean by a buoy: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pfzrD4akqxQ&pp=ygUVamVyZW15IHdhZGUgKyBvYXJmaXNo
>>5116440is there any recommended reading material about this? I'm very interested.
>>5116435>Swim in deep water>Can barely see a couple of centimeters into the water>at any moment something can grab me and pull me down.
>>5134023A phobia need not be rational.
>>5116435its just fear of the dark with a dash of ocean seasoning its not that deep (badum ts)
>>5133612It's gives off a strong sense of being lost and potentially endangered
>>5116435i think the fear is extended to the ocean as a whole, not just the creatures that inhabit it- but the creatures we know inhabit it are also just a small piece- the potential creatures we dont know exist carry more weight, but that requires the mental capacity to delve into the unknown, to simulate hypothetical situations, so i can understand where you lack the ability to appreciate thalassophobia - the currents that remind us how little dominion we have over out planet, the big question mark of potential monsters lurking below, the known creatures - who yes, on a logical level arent so scary, but when combined with all the other factors i would say thalassophobia is not retarded, but not being able to understand it may elude to mental deficiencieshow would you feel if you didnt eat brekfast this morning?
>>5134948>if any of them were dangerous to humans, we'd know by now. this is retarded. That's like saying you'd know by now if a venomous snake was in your yard. No, you wouldn't, retard, not until you notice it. You never know if it's there until you see it. This is very basic known knowns vs known unknowns vs unknown unknowns.
>>5117420kek
>>5116435unaustralian
>>5134983i think the guy you're replying to maybe still hasnt understood the classic game of peekaboo
