I knew these creatures were demonic. A recent study assessed the hypothesis that killer whales (Orcinus orca) are preying on their own species. Researchers found two examples of severed killer whale fins bearing telltale marks of killer whale bites, both on Russia’s Pacific coast off Bering Island. Discovered just over a mile apart, the fins were from a juvenile killer whale and an adult female or juvenile male, respectively. The spacing and size of the fresh bite scars pointed to an act of killer whale predation. An obvious question is whether the bite marks were evidence of a fight rather than premeditated murder. But, “if it was just aggression, they wouldn’t bother to tear off the fin,” reasoned study author and whale biologist Olga Filatova in a press release. When killer whales hunt, they tend to go for the richer body parts like organs, leaving fins and other low-energy parts behind. So, the detached fins suggested an act of predation—a fin torn off to access the soft body parts.https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/mms.70142
>>5119010>if it was just aggression, they wouldn’t bother to tear off the finthat does make sense thoughtwhat a bullshit article
>>5119023did you read the rest of the paragraph? orcas tear off the fin during predation to access the softer body parts for consumption. That's how they hunt sharks, porpoises, other cetaceans, etc.
>>5119026>That's how they hunt sharks, porpoises, other cetaceans, etcIt isn’t though. Large sharks have their abdominal cavity split open so the liver can be removed, while large cetaceans like minke whales have their tongues/lower jaw eaten. In both cases the rest of the body is discarded with fins intact. Smaller prey like porpoises are consumed entirely. If this was the result of cannibalism then the removal of dorsal fins is new behaviour
>>5119050You think this is the result of aggressive play rather than predation?...
>>5119054this is what Megalodon did to orca ancestors back in the day
>>5119054You say that as if orcas don’t regularly pummel other animals to death and rip them to shreds during play. Also I didn’t say that it wasn’t predation, just that if it is then it’s completely different behaviour to what we see when they hunt sharks, porpoises, etc
>>5119080If it was predation, then it was cannibalism
>>5119010>demonicYou mean basedCannibalism is the thinking whale’s sport
>>5119010Brothers and sisters are natural enemiesLike sperm whales and orcasOr humpbacks and orcasOr minke whales and orcasOr orcas and other orcasDamn orcas, they ruin the ocean!
>>5119121do you also practice cannibalism?
>>5119054why does it need to be just aggressive play, I bet there are situations where orcas just straight up murder each other for other reasons than eating the opponent. and tearing off fins seem like a great way to incapacitate another orca
>>5119134that makes them sound even worse
>>5119010There's nothing wrong with cannibalism.
>>5119103I didn’t say that it wouldn’t be cannibalism if it was predation retard. Learn some reading comprehension
>>5119126Are you also a whale?
>>5119221yes, my name is Randy Fine
>>5119228So what’s stopping you?
>>5119010what an evil fish
Of course it's the ruskie orcas...
>>5119142I don't see how that makes them different from any other animal, especially humans. btw I'm not basing this on anything but I bet humans aversion to cannibalism is mostly a cultural thing, I bet grugg didn't give a shit about chomping on another human, or at least ones that didn't belong to his own tribe
>>5119297It gives you prion disease
>>5119297>I bet grugg didn't give a shit about chomping on another human, or at least ones that didn't belong to his own tribeNeanderthals for one apparently preferred not to: there are a few examples of cannibalized remains, but they're rare and sloppily butchered (indicating far less experience at dressing the carcass than that of other animals), so it's unlikely to have been common and more probably only done in dire conditions where no other food was available, potentially on those who had already perished (not unlike what happened with the Donner party or Franklin expedition)
>>5119297humans probably taste awful
>>5119297>jews drink human blood from the child’s penis during bris>Africans practice voodoo and eat their enemies / rival tribesmenOutside of that I don’t think humans are cannibals at all, unless you’re climbing some uncharted mountain and get caught in an avalanche and have to eat your dead comrade to survive.
>>5119297>bro they’re just like humansWe have to maintain nation scale societies or be killed/enslaved by people who doOrca are atomized tribes of 80 IQ aquatic retards that our rich scientists like to jerk off to and may as well be any other fishWhatever is natural or apparently logically the same between humans and orcas, morally, isn’t. What is acceptable or advantageous behavior for an orca is not and will never be conducive to human life. >>5119314That aside, habitual cannibals tend to be conquered or killed by other humans and only survive in isolation because humans dont want to be eaten, and prion diseases are a bitch.
>>5119347The mexican dish posole, pic rel, used to be made with human meat. The Spanish conquistadors made the natives switch to using pork. It was said that the taste of the posole did not change.
>>5119385Forgot pic
>>5119385>>5119386forgot about the Mayans
>>5119303>>5119359I thought prion disease only is a thing if you eat the brain
>>5119414Yep, specifically from someone that already has it
>>5119010sick fucks, same for everyone defending this behavior
>>5119010They attack our yachts, and now this?
>>5119347Victorians were really into eating mummies. And of course the medieval practice of eating the part of the body you had an illment on.
>>5119632>Victorians were really into eating mummies.Proof?
>>5119633To correct the other anon, Europeans (not Victorians, but earlier) ate a lot of mummies as a "medicinal" practice. So many that it nearly depleted the world's supply of mummies, I believe. This happened for multiple centuries.Here's the "proof" you wanted but this was easy to google:https://explorersweb.com/why-rich-europeans-ate-up-all-the-egyptian-mummies/https://theconversation.com/why-did-people-start-eating-egyptian-mummies-the-weird-and-wild-ways-mummy-fever-swept-through-europe-177551https://www.jstor.org/stable/2540910?seq=1https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/mummy-eating-medical-cannibalism-gory-historyhttps://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-gruesome-history-of-eating-corpses-as-medicine-82360284/
>>5119639Yeah this didn’t happen and if it somehow did it was jews. Just like the “white” slaver ships.
>>5119680I mean if you wanna see it that way, that's fine, but it doesn't really add anything useful to the conversation.
>>5119680>what an american education does to a mf
>>5119639damn, Europeans are nasty. You'll never see a Chinese or Korean person doing that.
>>5119010dayummm they really are just like us, I'm black btw
>>5119639lol what a bunch of retards
>>5119962I'm too autistic to pick up on sarcasm so I'll throw in that the Chinese loved to eat one another throughout history and wrote about it a lot, and North Korea had a famine in the 1990s that supposedly had everyone and his grandma munching on orphans.
>>5119962>he hasn’t seen the chinese human butchers
>>5119743That’s the exact opposite of what American education teaches tho.
>>5120266Rather that's what a lack of education in America does. >>5119680 is most likely from the South where they view education as a librul conspiracy and thus have the worst reading/writing/math scores in the country. Funny thing is that that poster probably voted for that orange pedophile that's the biggest Jew enabler on the planet.
>>5120285The slave ships actually were owned by jews. Also, kamala literally promised war with iran (and open borders) and was supportive of all the covid bullshit so imagine, for a second, believing america is a democracy. You do not get to choose. Your vote does not count. They can add or remove millions of votes at will. Non citizens vote. People vote multiple times. Dead people vote. Votes appear and vanish as needed. You do not live in a democracy. You have no power. You have no rights. Your rulers system is decentralized and utilizes hidden leadership. They are immune to political violence. You have no friends, no one is on your side, and no one is coming to save you. You lost. You are a serf. When you accept this politics will make sense and you’ll stop being a bitch about redteam blueteam. You are a serf. All of you are purposefully oppressed. De-educated. De-industrialized. Replaced with labor scabs, so they can be replaced by labor scabs. You only exist to provide a moral justification for the financialized debt economy. Otherwise you’re a waste of air. If you ever produced something it would promptly be turned into corn farming or a useless tech company providing nothing of practical value except for surveillance and taxable rent and debt. Deal with it.
>>5120288>The slave ships actually were owned by jews.Proofs????
>>5120288>The slave ships actually were owned by jewswhat I don't get about this one, even if every single slave ship was owned by jews and every slaver was a jew and the entire slavetrade was a jewish business, it doesn't make the act of buying and keeping these slaves any better
>>5120310most slave owners in the south were jewish as welland across the ocean the ottomans traded in white slaves instead of just black onesthe chinese were and still are prolific slaversindia did and still does have slaveryand little are you ever told, a shitton of whites came to the US as indentured servants (slavery) and irish immigrants were forced into the military to earn citizenship (also slavery)a slave that might be freed later is still a slaveits slavery all arounddont let anyone guilt your race or deride another over slavery. every abrahamic religion allows slavery. every pagan society had slaves. the entire world ran on slavery up until they found a way to pretend slaves were technically free (its just remote slavery with nicer quarters, but if you quit for too long you are blacklisted for life and will starve and die)
>>5120310Don't try and make sense of incel logic. They literally got it from a /pol/troon infographic. I know exactly the one. I've never seen any credible source and we won't see one ITT
>>5120326>White people did not invent slavery and weren’t the sole people to blame for slavery. Every ethnic and religious group did the same thing. We should let the past be the past instead of trying to use historical tragedy to justify racial hatred. >INCEL NONSENSE! WHITE MEN ARE THE PROBLEM!With leftists like this running around trump is guaranteed a third and fourth term solely because no one on the blue team is willing to put freaks like you in their place. Thank you for supporting ULTRA MAGA!If you mald at this post don will bomb tehran again
>>5120328See what I mean? 2 posts I've brought up talking about a source and the incel still can't provide one.
>>5120336Repeat after me:White people did not invent slavery and weren’t the sole people to blame for slavery. Every ethnic and religious group did the same thing. We should let the past be the past instead of trying to use historical tragedy to justify racial hatred
Libs: ownedTrump: electedAmerica: great againIsrael: safeIran: bombedPalestine: imaginaryAnimal cruelty: federal crimeOur bacon: savedWolves: shotBears: blastedCougars: cappedFish: bout yea bigLeaves: rakedLawn: mowedNature: doing ok after a brief recovery periodYep, it’s freedom time. USA USA USA USA
>>51203373 posts. You'd think he'd provide one already just to shut me up but lolnope
>>5120351what about the orcas?
>>5119054>aggressive playNobody said it was play you colossal retard
>>5119010Well they're not called sparer whales...
>>5119054This could be taken as evidence of orcas engaging in warfare to eradicate a competing pod. We already know chimps do it and orcas have similar mental capacity.
>>5119103No it wouldn’t be cannibalism because resident and Bigg’s killer whales are different species. That’s like saying a coyote eating a pomeranian is cannibalism
>>5120698no, they aren't. at most they're subspecies but even that's not officially recognized.
>>5120698it's more like a Kodiak bear preying on a Grizzly bear...
>>5120818They were upgraded to full species status, OP’s article even references it>>5121148More like a grizzly preying on a black bear
>>5121156>They were upgraded to full species status, OP’s article even references itNo, they weren't. Some biologists want them separated into different species or subspecies, but others have rejected it and there's no official recognition yet.
>>5121158>No, they weren'tThey werehttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2892092/>there's no official recognition yetA new species is “recognised” when enough people agree on it, most agree that they deserve full species status. There is no scientific monolith that officially recognises all new species. Even if there were, the genetic evidence is pretty solid. The fact they don’t interbreed despite overlapping in range should have been a pretty obvious indicator
>>5121178This paper is over 15 years old and there's still only one recognized orca species, so clearly not enough people agree with their arguments
It’s just socioeconomic factors chud
>>5121183>This paper is over 15 years oldHe’s correct. A paper was also published in 2024 confirming that they’re different species
>>5121360It didn't "confirm" shit. Society for Marine Mammalogy still only recognizes one species of orca.
>>5121375The paper literally confirms that they’re morphologically, genetically and behaviourally distinct. The society for marine mammalogy doesn’t officially determine taxonomic recognition for every described species either. That sort of thing doesn’t exist. Also the only reason that they don’t recognise it yet is because they only got a 2/3 vote to name them as new species when they needed a unanimous vote, so even then the majority believe they’re distinct species
>>5121378If it were officially recognized, some sperg would've updated Wikipedia by now to reflect that, but Wikipedia only lists on orca species.
>>5121379As I said there is no single authority that officially recognises new species. Also whether or not they do doesn’t change the fact that they are observably different. Come back in 10 years and see if it’s the same>wikipedialollmao
>>5121379Do you think the genetic divergence between the two species only poofs into existence once they’re recognised by a random institution?
Orcacels ITT absolutely seething
>>5121786>>5121392If you think Wikipedia inaccurately reflects the current scientific consensus, you can update it right now.
>>5119010Doesn't surprise me. They commit infanticide too.
>>5119962You were angling for this weren’t you?
>>5122534I did not know about this
>>5119026>orcas tear off the fin during predation to access the softer body parts for consumption.I don't get where the "scientists" behind this study got this, it is famously well known that Orcas have really weird food preferences, with the lips, tongue and genitals being their favorite, none of which requires to rip the fins to gain access to. And if orcas were cannibals, we'd likely have some direct reports of it. Not that its impossible, just, seems like a leap.
>>5123141>And if orcas were cannibals, we'd likely have some direct reports of it.Not true at all. It's very hard to get direct observations of this kind of stuff. Orca infanticide wasn't observed until fairly recently.
>>5123162>It's very hard to get direct observations of this kind of stuff.Orcas have followed and interacted with whalers for centuries now, its not an animal we have very little observation of. Obviously, it could be the kind of behavior that for some reason they never display in front of humans, but in that case we might find remains inside an orca (although, as I write this, orcas were never hunted widely, and if this is not a common occurence then the odds of one dying with remains inside and be found may be very low). It just seems like a weird leap from finding a ripped fin. And also, why would that explains remaining in a pod, over all the advantages of pack hunting and living? There's at least half a dozen other explanations to this, with the simplest being that orcas can also have mental issues and display violent sociopathic tendencies, and that this is the work of a single psycho whale out for blood.
>>5123214>Orcas have followed and interacted with whalers for centuries now, its not an animal we have very little observation ofYou do realize no one gave a shit about orcas until the 1950s, right? Most fishermen thought of them as a pest. They weren't thought of as particularly intelligent or interesting until they were held in captivity starting in the 1950s and studied more up close.
>>5123232We have reports of Orca pods cooperating with whalers in hunts as early as the 1860s. "They eat their own kind" isn't an observation that requires a highly developed scientific mind, some Nascau 2500 years ago could have witnessed it. > As pestmaybe for a Norwegian.
>>5123238Have any 19th century whalers written about your life? No? I suppose you do not exist then
>>5121891>scientific consensusYou mean the scientific consensus that they are different species? There is not a single paper that argues for subspecies status like the society for marine mammalogy currently lists them as, all the literature argues for full species status
>>5123238then how come orca infanticide wasn't directly observed until recently? it's not all that different and perhaps an even more clear-cut case of intraspecific aggression
>>5122534Decisive Tangy victory
>>5119385>It was said that the taste of the posole did not change.
>>5121846If you don't like orcas you're a non >>5120296>proofsNta but If jewgle doesn't show you any results use another search engine. I have read the documents and some of the ship owenrs' bios, and it checks out. There is that famous book too, but I would adivise you to actually read the primary sources. jews were heavily involved in the trans-Atlantic slave trade from the very beginning. Spanish and Portuguese jews (also known as conversos or marranos) handled the South. Curaçao was one of their main HQs. Dutch and English jews handled the North, that's what the other anon is referring to. I don't know much about French jews or their involvement so I can't speak about it.
>>5120359>kvetching>too stupid to actually do reasearch>expects to be spoonfed>acts passive aggressive >kvetching againIt's almost too easy with you 'people'
>>5119639>That Futurama bit was realLel
>>5120285The poor scores in the south are almost entirely a demographics issue, I'd imagine you'd see similar or worse trends in Washington DC (despite being the "jewel" of the "North")
>>5123849You're defending cannibals?
>>5124133Are you White or brown?That is what matters
>>5119010Not surprised. It is a fish, after all.
>>5123850>STILL can't provide a source almost a half month laterKekarooni!
>>5124417>still groveling >oy vey do my research goyI regret to inform (you) that by Nuremberg laws racial Aryans are not allowed to work for j*ws
>>5124570>>oy vey do my research goyKek you made the argument, not me. It's your job to back up your incel claims. But I know you can't. Anyway, this has gone on long enough. Concession accepted.
>>5124718You can cohencede all you want moshi, doesn't make what I said any less true
>>5124757...yes it does.A complete lack of source means you are pulling shit out of your ass.
>>5124788>still kvetching Just yandex it or something I gave enough hints
>>5124757You made a claim and one simple question anally raped and gaped you for all eternity. MANY such cases when arguing with incels like yourself. Reply to me again to confirm I am correct in this assessment.
>>5125199>another oneAgain, I don't work for hooknosesReply to this post to confirm the talmud is denounced as fake and gay
>>5124806You cant support your point because it is wrong.
>>5125316The more (you) kvetch, the more convinced I am I'm rightI have also read the documents, so there's that too
>>5125317The more you show complete inability to cite anything, the more the world sees that you are lying.
>>5125320>the world is reading this threadOy vey let me put on my nice Sunday suit before posting>you're lyingI'm not, but I also don't work for j*ws. You 'people' seem to be very thick and need to be told several times apparently
>>5125323>blah blah pointless seething>no citationYou cant back up what you said because what you said was a lie. And everyone can see it.
>>5125325>everyoneOy gevalt that's another logical fallacy my low verbal iq jude Did you take your tay-sachs meds today?
>>5121379You may in fact actually be a retard, my friend
