what are the coolest shrimp in the hobby? I have some OE blue dream neos but I think I’m gonna set up another tank for something more interesting and keep it with only shrimps.

>>5120344
>What did you add/change to get the most vibrant plants?

I've been using the cheapest LEDs from amazons on all my tanks, it's been fine. swords, crypts, floaters, moss, anubias, and stem plants grow
tank is lit, looks good

i recently started a tank on my back porch to propagate some more stuff for resale, needed a new light... bought a 40W LED instead for like $55
hot damn the reds and read, floaters look better than ever
i'm probably gonna do some substrate on one side to test carpeting plants that won't grow at all in my other tanks
they don't die, they just don't carpet
lighting definitely seems worth spending more on

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Time for operation: fish out of water

This guy is sitting on the check in desk in the gym
I need to come up with a ruse to liberate it

I said "that's not really a suitable environment" and the reply I got was "that's why we got one of these, they can survive anywhere"

>>5120378
I’m using a hygger light from Amazon on my 10 gallon CO2 injected tank, just put the monte carlo in this week. You think it’s strong enough for it to carpet? I’m also supplying ferts and iron for the red plants.

>>5120394
>posting a confession and timestamped photograph
Not off to a great start...

>>5120395
hygger makes so many of every product man
if it's hygger A with extra red diodes, sure
if it's hygger B for $15 then probably not

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>>5120398
This one

>>5120400
In general, you can plug it into Claude. Put your water depth too. It will estimate the par and if it's high enough.

I have that light in 36". It's 1200 par right against it, 200 par at 6 inches air. Probably like 180 in semi-clear water. By 1 foot you'd be over 100 which is enough for carpeting with co2.

>>5120402
My light is right on the surface so I’m just going to assume it’s okay. Idk wtf Claude is

>>5120344
I want to setup a tank with floaters using a hang on back. Thinking of hanging unraveled pot scrubbers, or tied on moss to slow the flow. Will this kill the oxygenating effect of the waterfall? I read the waterfall is better than bubblers at oxegenation, but i think it came down to it creating more surface agitation.

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Can i grow rotala rotundifolia without a light if i place it in a sunny window? Any sunny window aquarium tips?

>>5120444
Can you grow it? Yes. Will it be red? Probably not.

>>5120394
Amazing.
If the water quality doesn't kill it, the rotting pothos will.

>>5120453
Not even in a southern facing window with full sun? I was kinda hyped to see the red.

>>5119914
>>5120112
>>5119905
>>5119901
>>5119810
Thanks again everyone. Extra steps I did were
>put water conditioner in the quarantine bucket
>drip (more like very weak piss stream) acclimated for about an hour
>added an air stone because last attempt, every one of them were hanging at the top of the tank

It’s been about 6 hours, by which last time one of the shrimp had died. This time they seem to be doing good. One of my cherry shrimp was riding an oto earlier but couldn’t get a picture in time

>>5120405
>>5120402
Googled claude, it pointed me to the twinstar 450s V so I bought one

>>5120433
They make baffles. Unfortunately none of the filters have an official baffle so you have to buy one off Amazon or Etsy and hope it fits.

>>5120433
just make a floating boom that separates the turbulent surface area from the calm part. you can 3DP it, use airline tubing, hollow plastic sections from the warhammer store, etc.

>>5120433
I have tried all the diy and 3d printable things, it was all mediocre
Ordered this product and it was beyond worth it
https://a.co/d/0dHxLsEg
Hob put out so much surface agitation though if the water drops at all, it'll go over most dividers to a degree
Switched to a canister and no regrets
I just gave up on hobs. The rings that go above sponge filters with a hole in the center for airline hose so it stays centered work great as well

>>5120486
Huzzah!

>>5120394
Take an empty water bottle with a large mouth and just swooce right in when nobody is looking.

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>have 10 gal planted tank
>1 betta, 5 cherry shrimp, 1 amano shrimp, 1 mystery snail
>have a group of 8 chili rasboras in QT for a little over 2 weeks now

How does one safely introduce fish tankmates to a betta? He leaves the shrimp alone and very early on has harassed the snail but now couldn't give a single shit about it. I worry it would be a different tune when it comes to seeing other fish.

Pic related, my fella

>add 8 golden amanos to betta tank
>don’t see them at all now
>1 dried up on my floor this morning
I know my betta didn’t kill them. I’d have seen the bodies by now and he’d be fat. Where the hell are the other 7? This tank hasn’t grown in so much that they should be outright invisible.

I was just given a 20 gallon fish tank. realistically how soon can I have it set up with a species or two of plant and some beginner friendly fish?

>>5120611
Today. Not gonna rehash the basics but
>tank
>substrate
>heater or chiller
>filter
>light
>fish
>plants
>API freshwater master test kit
>aquarium siphon
>bucket
>fish
>plants
>fish food
Tank needs to establish a nitrogen cycle so you’ll need to use the test kit to check parameters daily and likely do daily water changes for the next 4-6 weeks until it’s done cycling and you can let it just take care of itself, excluding regular maintenance.

>>5120582
I read that they will attack newcomers. Maybe put him in his own tank for awhile, introduce the new fish in the main tank, then put the betta back in. They tend to not fight pre-existing fish.

>>5120613
Nice. I had it in my head that plants needed some time to establish themselves before fish could be introduced. I'm doing proper research now

>>5120619
No they’ll just melt and look like shit before they bounce back and acclimate to your tank. Aquariums are a game of patience. Every stunning tank you’ve ever seen is easily a year old and fully matured.

>>5120582
the chili Rasbora should be too fast for him to attack, why I put them with my pea puffers
They eventually give up and accept the presence

Starting up a Moina culture to consistently feed my new wild-caught pygmy sunfish. I've been giving them newly hatched baby brine shrimp in the meantime.

What color substrate goes best with a shrimp-only tank? Looking for something that will make their colors pop.

Probably gonna go with typical red, though I might go with blue if my LFS has them for cheap.

>>5120630
Black. You’ll get darker/deeper colors from black or dark substrate. They’ll lighten up and get almost clear eventually on a light substrate. This applies for almost all fish for some reason, regardless of if they’re top water or bottom dwellers, groupers or shrimps.

>>5120633
Also paint the back black, does wonders for aesthetics

>>5120633
You don't think black'll look edgy?
Actually, I'm looking at other people's tanks and the black does look nice.
But those people are good at aquascaping and I'm shit at it.

Alright, but the next question is sand or gravel?

>>5120637
I have one of those sticky-back thingies.

>>5120639
>edgy
Nigga are you retarded? Where have you ever been in nature that has white sand besides a nice beach? It’s not edgy at all, it’s the standard.

>>5120639
>sand or gravel?
Depends entirely on what you’re putting in the tank both plant and fish wise. Bottom feeders want sand so they don’t scratch themselves up, most of the cool plants want a softer substrate as well. But if you can get away with gravel it’s easier to clean and stem plants really like it.

>>5120652
>Nigga are you retarded?
Yes. Incredibly.
>Where have you ever been in nature that has white sand besides a nice beach?
Italy and the Caribbean.
Where have you been with black beaches?

I meant it as a joke, in any case.

>>5120653
>Depends entirely on what you’re putting in the tank both plant and fish wise.
Probably just neocaridinia, Java moss, and maybe Anubias.

>>5120657
If that’s all you’re putting in, do gravel. Just be warned that those are 3 very basic things and as fine as it sounds right now you’re going to end up adding more. I started with a 10 gallon shrimp breeder a couple months ago, meant to keep it as basic as possible so I could easily count and catch them. Now it’s a flame moss jungle with hardscape, an entire layer of floaters, and tiger lotus growing out the ass. This is a hobby of always wanting more, unfortunately. Genuinely don’t understand the people that get colored gravel with plastic decor and just let it ride for the fish’s entire life, takes all the fun and magic out of the hobby.

>CO2 injection
>drop checker was slow to get green but eventually got there
>green for a couple days and now it’s turning yellow
I’m confused. It comes on an hour before the lights and turns off an hour before the lights do. I’m around 1.5-2 seconds per bubble. What do I adjust? I have crushed coral in the HOB so the pH is stable too.

>>5120659
>started with a 10 gallon shrimp breeder
I'm doing a 5g so I'm not too worried about feature creep.

>Genuinely don’t understand the people that get colored gravel with plastic decor and just let it ride for the fish’s entire life
That's the parent "my kid wants a pet but I can't be assesd"-special.
It serves a very important role.

>>5120664
Nah, plenty of grown ass adults that run tanks like that themselves. Although I do assume it’s cause their parent probably did the same for them when they were younger and they just never learned better.
>starting with a 5 gallon
My first tank ever was a 5 gallon. Within 6 months it became one of the highest tech tanks I’ve ever run. I’m telling you, there’s no escaping it unless you truly just don’t give a fuck about the hobby that much. Not trying to put you off or anything, just make sure you look at lots of inspiration before you start making purchases and doing things to the tank that you can’t undo without severely disturbing the fauna. If you’re in this thread there’s a decent chance you’re more than just a casual enjoyer, leave yourself some options.

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>>5120639
>You don't think black'll look edgy?
no it looks great, makes everything pop and hides equipment and hoses (i'll switch these to black airline hoses at some point)
>But those people are good at aquascaping and I'm shit at it.
this is a tiny piece of driftwood, an anubias with it's roots jammed under the wood, and some anachris weighted down by plant weights(i started with just four 6" stems a month ago, just chop em in half and put the new bunch of 4 on a new weight, in perpetuity)
it's a divided 10 G, so this is a 5G space
>I have one of those sticky-back thingies.
you can try it but paint looks much better. i just did 3 coats of acrylic with a little roller on this tank yesterday

>>5120663
that's normal, plants put out co2 when lights are out and use it during the day
so you're accumulating at night and using it all up during the day
sounds like you have a perfect balance at the moment for not using a timer. wouldn't change a thing

>>5120666
they probably just don't know. i wasn't aware plants were a thing till I took over my dad's tank in my 30s and was doing research. he had always just done pet store special
really the problem is the pet stores not having any tanks demonstrating established plants. just shitty looking pots out of scape and maybe some anubias on rock on their gravel or a little piece of floating hornwort
if you aren't exposed to it you don't know

>>5120672
If the plants were using all of it, wouldn’t the drop checker be green instead of yellow? Yellow implies too much. And the CO2 is on a timer, unless you meant a bubble timer. Which, admittedly, I didn’t know exists.

>>5120673
my bad, i misremembered the color path; i'll reavaluate. (not an ai i swear)
so I also misread, thought you were saying it was yellow in morning and green at night
anyway.
well if it's yellow you're accumulating co2 faster than it's getting used. your timer settings are good.
i'd dial it back to get it out of yellow, even if you drop out of green. then address the following:
your plants are missing some other factor to not be utilizing the co2, maybe too little nutrients or light, maybe not enough o2 at night
what size tank?

>>5120674
It’s a 10 gallon breeder, heavily planted but only somewhat recently. Plants are growing but probably haven’t fully acclimated and taken root yet. I have a bullshit hygger light on there now but just ordered a twinstar 450s V >>5120494
Tank has been established running for months, I dose ACO fertilizer and iron.

>>5120675
>ordered a twinstar 450s V >>5120494
lmao I thought that was a joke mocking the guy telling you to use claude
alright well you're SET on lights
well you gotta give the plants time to acclimate. just dial it back to green. 2 drops is a lot in my opinion for a 10G. I was doing 2 drops on my low tech 75G, which everyone said was going to do nothing but I certainly saw noticable impact.
dial it back and be patient, once they settle in they'll pop off
it'll be really obvious the week they're ready for more

>>5120677
Nope I was dead serious. I’m not really into AI in fact I hate it. Never used Claude before but it seemed significantly more reliable than chat GPT and did all the math around my specific tank specs, PAR rating, wattage, color, etc. in a logical way so I decided to trust it. Even helped me find one in stock because they’re so hard to find right now in the US. I personally haven’t taken the time to get into lighting autism, so I trusted it. Certainly a more educated purchase than I would make on my own.

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couple months ago i got some endlers at the fish auction because they were freakin adorable
i. did. not. know. that they crossbreed with guppies, realized within a week and moved them to community tank away from guppies

apparently those fucks impregnated all my females and I didn't realize until this past week when all the juvenilles started showing color
so uh strain obliterated, new hybrid strain...
they look pretty cool though ngl

>>5120699
There’s like 40 fish in that video which one is the new strain?

>>5120666
>If you’re in this thread there’s a decent chance you’re more than just a casual enjoyer, leave yourself some options.
I'm lazy. The higher the tech, the more maintenance.
General tank maintenance I'm willing to do. Not trying to get myself involved in something crazy.

>>5120672
>this is a tiny piece of driftwood,
I was gonna get cholla wood.
>it's a divided 10 G, so this is a 5G space
What's on the other side?

>>5120702
>the higher the tech the more maintenance
Not really, unless you’re doing a walstad setup and literally don’t intend to do anything but top it off. less effective tech is going to lead to chasing down algae, more water changes, higher likelihood of crashes, things like heaters exploding in the water, and so on. Not to say you need all of the highest tech or most expensive gear by any means. I’m also not even saying just for tech. Plants, fish, substrate, lighting, filter type, etc.
I’m not gonna keep lecturing cause I truly do not care what you do. But if you go with gravel and then 3 months from now decide you want an HC cuba carpet you’re gonna be pissed that you chose gravel and spent $40 on a budget light when you could have just sprung for the $80 light and saved yourself the money. If that doesn’t make sense then it’s really not going to until you have a tank and find out for yourself.

>>5120707
No, no. I'm gonna spring for a good lights; I want good, happy plants.
And I'm gonna do water changes, and trim the plants, etc.

I know I don't want a carpeting plants. That requires too much up keep.

>>5120639
Black backgrounds are the standard for pro freshwater tanks. Everyone does it. Get coarse grade(as opposed to fine, or medium) silica quartz sand. It will allow all the waterflow of the Walstead method, while keeping the soil capped. Also make a soil tank lmao.

>>5120590
Okay so I found them, at least the handful that I can see. They’re hanging in the back corner by the filter low in a spot mostly inaccessible by the betta. I’m assuming he either scared the shit out of them or they’re acclimating still. I culled a yellow neo out of my shrimp tank into this tank a couple hours ago. It’s way smaller so if he wanted to eat it he could have, but it pretty quickly made its way into that same corner with the amanos. As far as I could see the betta didn’t even pay the neo any mind. My parameters are good though, so the Amano I found this morning was either suicidal or definitely got spooked by the betta and jumped. I’m running a sponge and HOB in this tank, if it was parameter related they would also be hanging on the sponge intake for the HOB, so it seems more like hiding to me.

Any insight on this? What are the odds they’re just acclimating to the new tank vs terrorized by my betta? The Amanos are too large for him to eat, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he wanted to just kill them for fun.

>>5120709
>pro freshwater tanks.
Any brand suggestions?

>>5120720
For the tank itself? UNS or ADA. If you’re a portage you can get tanks cheap as shit from petco during their 50% sale. The sale lasts either 1 week a month or 1 full month, but every other month. I forget exactly. But good chance the sale is running right now.

>>5120722
>portage
poorfag

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>>5120701
the luminescent bluey ones like endlers

>>5120702
>What's on the other side?
the kind of shrimp you don't want on a black background lol
small driftwood, hornwort, javamoss
i think it looks great
both sides running on a 12$ amazon light
i'll invest in better lights forever in the future though, but these work for sure. i've got a 6$ micro led on another 3g shrimp tank with just anubias and it's plenty

>>5120720
75G mainland at petco is $120 during their sale, which is all the time pretty much. trying to by used tanks is miserable, they're all in shit condition
i resold two i bought used that I was told were in good condition. filled em up, OH LOOK AT THOSE AWESOME SCRATCHES
resold same price with disclaimer regarding scratches
fucking reptile keepers don't give a shit lmao

I'm so excited to get my tank going. It's funny, my brother and I get to the pet store to buy dog stuff and I say something like "I want a fishtank but don't want to spend too much" and he says "dude, I have one in the back of my car I've been trying to get rid of for weeks". We get home and sure enough there is a nice 20 gal tank already in my driveway.
I've been doing some research and so far my basic bitch plan is
>dark substrate
>a simple piece of driftwood and a rock or two
>a couple plants like java fern and anubius
>school fish like cherry barb
>cool wormy dudes like loach
>maybe an african dwarf frog or something else neat as I get the tank cycled
It will depend on what my favorite pet store has of course but that's along the lines of what I want.

>>5120742
look to see if you have a local fish grorup the does monthly meetings/auctions
but hell yeha

>recommended 8 hours maximum of light to avoid algae
But what if I wanna look at it?

>>5120767
Low tech tanks often use weak lights for longer periods. You can also use the meme rest period where you turn off the light in the middle of the day for a few hours so you can have it on earlier in the morning and later at night. People thought this did stuff like disrupted algae growth and let CO2 replenish but I think that's all disputed now, but at least it shouldn't cause problems. I just gave up and have mine on 12pm-8pm so I can look at it after work.

>>5120783
My tank is high tech

>>5120538
It’s two days later and everyone’s still alive! The cherry shrimp are all hanging out at the bottom too, so it doesn’t look like they’re in oxygen distress

>>5120767
real men just fill their tank with bladder snails