Discuss the field of cryptozoology. No skinwalkers and wendigos allowed
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>>5121886Why does the cryptozoology subreddit hate Bigfoot so much
>>5121889kys
>>5121962Maybe because there's 0 compelling evidence for it and as soon as that new documentary gets ripped online it's going to eviscerate Bigfootfags and silence them forever
>>5121970Go back.
>>5121962If you think they hate bigfoot you should see what they think of dogman. I don't blame them tho, shit's retarded
>>5121990>no argument because she knows i'm rightLel
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>>5122000>shecome on dude there are no women here
>>5121998thats literally a normal wolf jumping, but with motion blurcryptid fags are fucking retarded
I think the Lusca could be real. Not absurd, but imagine a 20 foot predatory octopus that can fit anywhere its beak could, existing in the blue hole cave ecosystem and avoiding anoxic water by going to the blue holes to breathe. And if someone happens to be there, it just yanks them down and you never see them again. Yes that Bob Gymlan video convinced me but man, its really persuasive. I'm a lusca truther now.
>>5121970>>5121998It's just that there's a million "PGF IS A PROVEN HOAX" threads. It's like doing victory laps around the retarded kid but then also professing that some of those Bigfoot sightings were actually Giant Ground Sloths>If you think they hate bigfoot you should see what they think of dogmanAnyone who has a serious and genuine interest in Cryptozoology hates the Dogman community, even the Bigfoot guys who aren't super schizo don't want them muddying up what reputation they have
>>5122068>It's just that there's a million "PGF IS A PROVEN HOAX" threads.And it will actually be proven once that doc releases, if the initial seething and meltdowns caused by it are any indicator.
I now believe in Bigfoot due to David Paulides bigfoot DNA study. It is on YT and is highly worth a watch. His findings revealed human mother/unknown father.Then you have all of the Native American cultures with names for bigfoot and stories regarding them. Scott Carpenter (Into the 400) investigates a very compelling piece of property where he obtains long trackways due to a muddy flat where the bigfeet traverse to harvest mussels. Anyways, my point is that to discount bigfoot you have to assume that all of these cultures, both ancient and current day are lying. As well as discount all of the footprint evidence that is currently being collected.
>>5122037Dogman has to be my personal favorite "retarded" cryptid. I love the fact that they call it "dogman" because even they know it's retarded to say werewolves are real
>>5122040100% agree on this one. Isn't there physical evidence of it too? i have no idea why it isn't one of the most talked about cryptids since it is one of the more plausible
>>5122040>>5122201Another thing that makes it more believable in my opinion is that it wouldn't even be the biggest cephalopod alive right now. I am always more open to cryptids that don't claim to be the biggest and baddest of their family
>>5122152>you have to assume that all of these cultures, both ancient and current day are lying.you can say that about a ton of mythical creatures though. by this logic dragons are also real
>>5122152I've said it before in these threads but i 100% believe bigfoot is an extinct or borderline extinct species purely because of how many native american tales describe what is essentially normal ape behavior. However i have a hard time believing the people who claim they are absolutely everywhere and even more so believing all the paranormal bullshit around the topic
>>5122203I think bigfoot is a little different because:Number 1: As i said, a lot of those tales describe what is basically just a normal animalAnd number 2: The fossil record is chock-full of bipedal apesStill that is what i personally believe, i don't blame anyone for thinking it's all bullshit, specially because of the sheer amount of crazy people talking about interdimensional apes. Bigfootfags really did bring the bad rep upon themselves
>>5121969Kiss your soreass
>>5122201>Isn't there physical evidence of it too?There’s a carcass that people like Bob Gymlan have taken as pretty solid evidence of a giant unknown octopus species living in the area, but they don’t seem to consider the possibility that it could be from a Humboldt or giant squid. It looks like it has a lot of connective tissue so I’d lean more towards squid. Even if there is an unknown giant octopus I doubt it would be behind the blue hole disappearances. Giant octopus are very docile unlike squid and when they do attack something they don’t drag it into the deep at light speed
>>5122235why does the guy in blue jeans look photoshoped?
>>5122152>David PaulidesThe Lore Lodge has an immeasurable hatred for the guy despite them having a rep for hiding their sources behind a paywall and plagiarize
>>5122235>Giant octopus are very docileIsn't that irrelevant when we are talking about a possible new species?
What do you guys think about cabin in the woods? personally i used to like his videos until he made one saying werewolves are real. Then he started making paranormal bigfoot videos and i lost all interest
>>5122243Sounds like a guy who doesn't believe in any of this shit and is just trying to make a buck off schizos
>>5122242The idea of a giant super aggressive octopus that likes to eat large vertebrates evolving in a cave with no large vertebrates seems pretty unlikely
>>5122241>The Lore Lodge has an immeasurable hatred for the guyI wonder why? His DNA video/study that I mentioned seemed to be set up well. BTW, I agree with other posters that anyone talking about supernatural sasquatch stuff loses me instantly. BTW, I mentioned "Scott" Carpenter earlier. It is actually Shane Carpenter and he made a documentary called Into the 400 about a private piece of 400 acre property he has had access to for years now. Basic story is that the owner was cutting down trees and started having some negative sightings of bigfoot. Shane came in and told him to stop logging property and started investigating. The muddy area has allowed him to consistently cast footprints, identify individuals and track their growth. What is interesting is that juvenile bigfoot footprints look essentially human until they age and spread out. Which mirrors what happens in Tarahumara Indians (the ones that run marathons in huaraches). Here he is talking about the 400 if anyone is interested. I really like this guy. Picrel is Shane with some casts. Check the size range. He said the juvies tend to hang with the female of the group and that he often casts them at the same time.https://youtu.be/zRQ3fEfNju0?t=997
>>5122249>I wonder why?They made a whole video about how David lied or misconstrued the events of some of the missing person cases he discussedDoes Shane have any sort of video evidence of these bigfoots or is it all just casts of their feet
>>5122251Oh, thank you.Shane had some thermal footage in his documentary, but it was kinda underwhelming. They have been teasing a new documentary which was supposed to have already been released. The most impressive thing he has posted was a trackway with ~100 prints in a line IIRC. I will look for it. Here is the thermal footage.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izhqq6lZZDc
>>5122251>Does Shane have any sort of video evidence of these bigfoots or is it all just casts of their feetJust found the video of the trackway. 1:09:33 if it does not link correctly.https://youtu.be/G-dVSJKRuZE?t=4172
>>5122256Side view of a track obtained in mud
>>5122246Touché. I was talking more about the animal being docile or aggressive in general
>>5122238He's the real cryptid
Anyone remember this? shit was hilarious
>>5121970the documentary about the same film that was apparently debunked hundreds of times but that nobody can actually dissuade people from believing because of how compelling it is? That one?
>>5122280>>5121970yeah what was with that?I kept seeing people go "patterson film CONFIRMED HOAX!! they found NEW FOOTAGE! REHERSAL FOOTAGE! JUST YOU WAIT!!"and I'm still waiting
this cryptid was recorded on the ice at a hockey game
>>5122332Apparently a bunch of people close to Patterson and Gimlin were saying it was faked and a bunch of Bigfoot believers who saw the Documentary agreed it was fakeBut I'd also want to see this footage first. I heard they're having trouble finding a Publisher or whatever but being the one's who supposedly proved without a shadow of a doubt that they debunked the Patterson-Gimlin film I'd think they'd just post it on youtube or something
>>5122370Me going up the stairs when no one is home.
>>5122388kek
>>5122382That does make me suspicious. Kind of sounds like they don't care about the truth and just want money
>>5122280>>5122332>>5122382>>5122455I kind of suspect they've just fake it with ai and are trying to keep the charade up long enough to get money before it gets proven fake, hence why they would need a publisher.
>>5122577It is indeed curious that apparently this footage has existed all along but coincidentally is only released after ai technology is able to produce convincing results
>>5122579Mind you, i don't even entirely agree that the PG film is 100% legit, i think everything about it looks real EXCEPT for the flat soles, that is something i have no way of explaining. But this whole new footage thing has been handled very strangely
>>5122332Can't wait to see all the cope from people who said no human in an ape suit could walk like that
>>5121889This why I study them
>>5122733I never got that point because i can walk like that and i know a bunch of people who also can
>>5122733>>5122747the only people who say this haven't actually looked at the biomechanics of the walk cycle, it's inhuman due to proportions and gait. Yeah, I can swing my arms when I walk too... that's not the point, stupid.
Isn't it fucked up that the kraken turned out to be 100% real and now we have specimens and video fo living individuals?
>>5122748It is an articulated suit from the 70s, worn over foam padding and diapers, with featureless rubber soles visible on videoAll gait analysis tells you is that the joints in the suit did not line up with the wearers body and made movement difficult and unnatural. This is actually a common feature in ape suits because well aligned limb proportions look human instead of monke. You should have also noticed it has totally flat, monocolor rubber soles on its feet
This thing is 100% real and no amount of "it was actually this other fish that doesn't fit the description at all" cope from skeptics will make me think otherwise
I like the idea of Giant Undiscovered Marsupials living on the island of New Guinea
>>5122835pige
Are Ground Sloths becoming the new meme? It seems like they're becoming the go-to for supposed Bigfoot sightings and some other cryptids
>>5122911So it seems. And a pretty weird one since when people say ground sloth they are usually talking about the elephant-sized ones that very obviously would not live in the amazon
>>5123010Personally I think the Ground Sloth theory only works if you assume it's a memory thing past down from generation to generation and people living in the area just assuming the animals would still be there
>>5122911Ground sloths are only plausible in the Amazon and only the small/medium-sized species
>>5121886Jackalopes
>>5123191real. how else do you explain this??checkmate liberals
>>5123191>>5123197This thing is real btw
>>5122206>The fossil record is chock-full of bipedal apesNot in the Americas
>>5122801>muh soleshttps://archived.moe/an/thread/5101511/#q5103172you sound insanely schizophrenic. It's an articulated suit? Using DIAPERS? And look at the fucking resolution of the video! It doesn't have high enough res to actually SEE any details on feet. God, the least you could do is talk about how he published a bigfoot book before the film released. That's verifiable and proves he would have a monetary incentive to make a hoax. But this "muh soles" crap has always been an awful, stupid argument.
Somebody explain to me why bigfoots emit minovsky particles
>>5123549>minovsky particlesmarge?
>>5121886>>5122152lloyd pye correctly identified them as the hominids (now hominin). homo erectus, neanderthals and the like.we have tonnes and tonnes of fossil evidence for them, it's just that admitting it means admitting the so-called "human ancestors" aren't extinct which completely fucks up the evolution story. so obviously that cannot be admitted to.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5qJYwfAju8an unbiased reconstruction of neanderthals just so happens to look exactly like sasquatch.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZbmywzGAVs
>>5122911a surviving ground sloth in the amazon is oretty credible. there have been a lot of reports collected by david oren, who first dismissed it, but then was convinced by the amount of matching descriptions. the traditional description of the mapinguari includes one eye and a mouth on its belly, while hunters talking about seeing one reported features that fit a mylodontid ground sloth. if they hadn't seen a real animal, they should be more likely to resort talking about the mythological description. there seems to be a lot less reports in the last couple decades though, so it seems likely they are rapidly declining in numbers. so we might lose them before they can be verified.
>>5123540Its a suit worn over padding. The joints of the suit do not align with the wearers. You can not perform legit gait analysis on a monkey costume. Monkey costumes commonly have the waist below the wearers real waist and the knees and ankles poorly aligned with the wearers to create the illusion of inhuman proportions and movement. Notice they never show the fingers moving. The hands are stiff. Why? To create the illusion of longer arms, ape suits often use dummy gloves with limited/no motion. Congratulations on analyzing a blurry video of an ape suit and discovering that monkey costumes do not cling to the human body!
>>5123626Neanderthals aren’t human ancestors. They're a splinter race that barely survives as 3% max of our DNA. We did not evolve from neanderthals. Very inbred humans however, express more stereotypical neanderthal traits. > admitting the so-called "human ancestors" aren't extinct which completely fucks up the evolution story>if birds evolved from lizards why are there still lizardsThere are real criticisms of fully natural human evolution. We developed traits like multipyramidal kidneys, blubber, a massive brain, and insane levels of skull vascularization so fast relative to species that definitely arose naturally, it implies gene editing or domestication imposed upon naturally evolved hominids. But there still being monkeys is not such a criticism. There are still isolated humans that are non-negligibly similar to homo erectus.
>>5123698>You can not perform legit gait analysis on a monkey costume.you can, and it would show the joints, which is what you were discussing before. Be consistent. The rest of your post is the trite "yeah but it COULD be faked so it HAS to be." Apply that to the moon landing, apply that to 9/11, apply that to your speeding ticket you got, you'll be laughed at. Don't be daft, consider the information in front of you impartially.
>>5123699>blubberI like the theory that humans were more semi-aquatic at one point, that Sea Ape theory
>>5123714>moon landingfake and gay, space programs are straight tax theft>9/11fake planes, inside job to instigate forever wars>bigfootreal as can be, simple as
>>5123714you wouldnt see any real joints. you would see the suits joints engaging in restrained, awkward motion with flat rubber soles and immobile hands and wrists. which is what you do see. you also see patterson and gimlin consequently making moolah off guided bigfoot hunts, books, and interviews. it’s over for you when the pgf rehearsal footage gets its full release lol
>>5121962They hate all cryptids thereThe only ones they tolerate are the animals that actually existed at one point like living thylacines
>>5122245tbf schizos are a very profitable audienceLook at Alex Jones, nigga made big bank off of paranoid idiots
>>5123773It's probably a hard course correction because of things like the cryptid wikia including aliens, ghosts and mythological creatures into the category
>>5123773all the most popular cryptids (Bigfoot, Nessie, Chupacabra, Mothman) are retarded. The only plausible ones are undiscovered animals in the poorly explored regions of places like New Guinea and the Congo.
>>5121886Why is this “sasquatch” just an anthropomorphic gorilla?
>>5122024It's the animal lovers’ board. Most animal lovers are women.
>>5123699>or domesticationthere are theories about self-domestication.
>>5121886Squonk?
>>5123919What about squonk?
>>5121886Orang Pendek and Mapinguari are the only plausible cryptids along with recently "extinct" animals being rediscovered like thylacines in New Guinea
>>5124147I could see Orang Pendek being another species of the pongo genus.
>>5124161there are almost certainly more primates to be discovered in that part of the world
>>5123749>you wouldnt see any real joints. you would see the suits jointsdidn't read the rest because this type of disingenuous nonsense is why you fags are somehow the least reasonable people in every bigfoot thread.
>>5123699At some point it's going to be accepted that Neanderthals were pretty much a subspecies of Homo sapiens rather than a separate species like Homo erectus
>>5124161>>5124232I also like the interpretation of Orang Pendek being a larger, more ground-dweling species of gibbon since gibbons are already bipedal
>>5123626>brings up the super predator neanderthal thingCome on dude
>>5122203>by this logic dragons are also realThey are.
>>5124457That's how Bad Dragon is able to model their dildos
>>5124457proof?
>>5124544Don't listen to the people that fell for the chemtrail psyop
>>5124732is this trying to imply chemtrails are real or not real
>>5121886What was the Waitoreke of New Zealand? Any chance it was a basal mammal like the monotremes/marsupials of Australia/New Guinea that gradually went extinct upon human arrival?
>>5124785https://australian.museum/learn/animals/mammals/water-rat/could have easily been a small population of these drift over and then go extinct
She's still out there
>>5121962>>5123773No, they dont. It doesnt mean people hate them if they dont believe them being real
>>5124944No they do hate dogman tho i don't blame them. People going to podcasts to talk about how they totally saw a werewolf for real is one of the most laughable things i have seen in a while
>>5125039I have yet to see a Dogman believer give a halfway convincing reason why a species of canine would give up their evolutionary traits and start walking up right and develop humanoid thumbs
>>5125106They usually go the interdimensional paranormal route which says it all
>>5125106to play devils advocate, they could be manmade horrors beyond our comprehension, made in some CIA black sites and either escaped or being tested in the field
>>5125147how is that playing devil's advocate?? that's just a ludicrous as le inter-dimensional demons
>>5125147You're not going to convince normal people that a series of Dogman sightings came about because of a bunch of Glowies experimented on some canines and they all escaped into the woods
>>5125147This type of mentality is why cryptozoology is a joke
>>5122243He started using ai to make the pictures in his videos move which looks laughably bad
>>5125388you mean the easiest, least-effort, most casual well-poisoning literally anybody could conceive of and then accomplish?>I think the sky is blue>Yeah well I think it's made of prickly-polkadot antimatter that will melt your eyes and the government made it all up>dumb fucking sky-believers, this is why it's such a jokethis is how you sound
>>5125763I think you are retarded
>>5121886Are there any Youtube channels which take a critical but open-minded approach to cryptids besides Dr. Polaris?
>>5125806we spent the last decade being told>you fucking chuds there's NO international child sex trafficking ring with all the world's millionaires and billionaires and that's just a conspiracy theoryand every single time it was brought up with the legitimacy it had, people spout>yeah like muh 9/11>yeah the moon landing was faked too>yeah and the earth is flat>yeah and dinosaurs weren't realand the discussion would halt, because when you talk about something, the >>5125763>easiest, least-effort, most casual well-poisoning literally anybody could conceive of and then accomplishis saying>yes, and [unbelievable babble]If someone is saying>well it's possible for a cryptid to existand someone else follows up with>YEAH AND IT'S A SHAPESHIFTING DEMON FROM AGARTHA THAT SPOKE TO ME IN 89 USING TELEPATHIC WAVES AND HE LOVES WEED AND SAYS IT SHOULD BE LEGALIZEDthen it's well poisoning, and you shouldn't let the latter color your opinion on the former. If you DO, then you're a retard falling for a blatant trick. Dumbass.
>>5125884I agree we shouldn't 100% trust everything the government tell us but fucking werewolves is where i draw the line
>>5125884Wait a minute i just realized we fucking agree on it. People saying shit like >>5125147 does indeed poison the well. You seem to be under the impression i don't believe in any cryptid because i think dogman is retarded which is not true at all.
>>5126170must have been miscommunication between the posts >>5125388 and >>5125763 then, no worries.
Bigfoot isn't real but the yeti is
>>5121886is Washington's eagle still out there? was it ever?
>>5127222I don't know i never heard about this one
Dogman is real and im tired of pretending it isnt
>>5127251Henry Audubon (the famous 19th century American nationalist) claims to have documented a giant brown fish eating eagle in the upper Mississippi drainage and Kentucky River valley. He claimed it had a 10’2” (3.1m) wingspan, and said it was a cliff nearer instead of a tree nearer, like the Bald Eagle. No one has been able to substantiate his claims, though he published plenty of observations about living Washington’s Eagles and claimed to have collected and measured several specimens.For perspective, the largest documented Golden Eagle had a 2.55m (8’5”) wingspan, so the Washington’s eagle would be a true giant.
>nearerNester, shit fuck
>>5127926Man i love this type of cryptids, i find them more interesting than supposed mythological creatures with super powers.My completely amateur opinion is that this thing was absolutely real but may be extinct by now. The size was probably exaggerated but even if it wasn't that is a completely plausible size.
>>5121889FPBP
Two ape cryptids i think are 100% very recently extinct animals are the 7 foot tall red gorillas and 6 foot tall orangutans
>>5128576The 6 foot tall orangutan is called "Mias pappan" and supposedly had black hair instead of orange. The interesting thing here is that it comes from back when SEA was first being explored and was described alongside the orangutans we have today
>>5121886
In regards to cryptid footage, anybody got that video of the monkey in the park? It's filmed at a distance, some vaguely ape-like figure bouncing through the orange glow of a sodium street light, and then there's a splice to a separate video of some chained up gate violently shaking.
Want to know one cryptid I don't want to see? Rocky Mountain Locusts.
>>5128628kek
>>5128717Why not?
>>5128730>Sightings often placed their swarms in numbers far larger than any other locust species, with one famous sighting in 1875 estimated at 198,000 square miles (510,000 km2) in size (greater than the area of California), weighing 27.5 million tons and consisting of some 12.5 trillion insects, the greatest concentration of animals ever recorded.And apparently just a mere 30 years later, they went extinct for reasons no-one's really sure of.
>>5128731Damn
>>5128708nvm found it
>>5128900Can you post it?
>>5128915Part 1 and Part 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNlfiq9MR9APart 3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQemgTDzz-QIt had been years since I've seen these, and I got some details wrong, but these are the videos in question. Part 3 is probably my favourite, Part 2 is obviously human vocalizations, and Part 1 just looks like a crackhead.
>>5128730It's unlikely they'll ever swarm again but if they truly didn't go extinct and there's a pocket just anywhere the results will be biblical if they ever return.>>5128731The going theory seems to be that farmers were destroying their eggs.
>>5128916Yeah i dismiss any sound recordings that don't sound like the sierra sounds. These kind of reminds me of the laughable sasquatch ontario recordings that are just a guy burping out words. I think the same guy who did the voices admitted it and made one burping out "i am... not... real..." kek
>>5128986I just like the visual of the pale ape-like thing crawling under the street light from a distance - it's spooky. I've been looking for these videos for a while, and the only thing I could remember, was that it took place in a 'park', and what the footage looked like, but searching shit like 'monkey cryptid park video' wasn't turning up anything in traditional search engines. Desperate, I unironically had to ask fucking Grok by dropping the above descriptions, and it was able to direct me towards a TWO HOUR LONG FUCKING FACEBOOK video full of 'creepy tiktok' clips, and I was able to find what I was looking for, by scanning through that. From those clips, I had the proper keywords, and I was able to find the standalone footage on Google/Youtube, easily enough by searching them>in the end, I had both videos liked already......
>>5128988It does look cool
