How does luck factor into evolution
>>5131162Evolution is just a theory
>>5131162Your mortal mind could never comprehend the profoundities of luck path.
>>5131162If your home environment is erased by pyroclastic flow because of a series of volcano eruptions, then no matter what type of incredible beast you are, your species is over.
>>5131162It takes serious luck like distant hybridization+back crossing, viral gene transfer, and repeated major non-fatal genetic abnormalities to generate orphan genes and drive macro-evolution. Hence it works fastest on short lived, fecund lifeforms. But some species literally can not evolve naturally and were the result of tampering by another species. Like humans, who “evolved” the kidneys of an aquatic mammal (for no reason) and an entirely new bone structure, novel brain that is both larger and more complex, and novel skin for the entire genus in record time, somehow became biologically compatible with pigs, struggle to recognize themselves as apes, and notoriously have stories from the dawn of their species describing themselves as the creations of a group of larger, smarter beings that resemble humans but came from the sky. If we naturally evolved it would take as long as it did for theropods to become birds.
>>5131162Imagine how unlucky the species who didn't make it must have been.
>>5131162>be antelope>be born with all the best genes possible for your species>just happen to be found by a hyena 30 seconds laterGet naturally selected idiot
>>5131162some humans might think you're cute and then grind up 100s of millions of farm animals a year to propagate your species
>>5131162stochasticity is indeed considered,yesin Ecology at least
>>5131264your stochasticity is ergodic
>>513116295+% of all the animal and plant species that have ever lived have no living relatives today. So it's really all luck.
>>5131310>95+% of all the animal and plant species that have ever lived have no living relatives todayall life is relatedso you have what we call an ass-number there and you're too stupid to realize it
>>5131162if you're very unlucky your species evolves until you're sentient, if you're more fortunate you just float around for 500 million years
Evolution is a lie
>>5131215Unless you live in lava
It's like THE main thing bro, the genes don't know they're mutating.>one chance at consciousness >born a fucking human
i feel like 80% of humanities problems is we had bad luck and some caveman shitter passed on the bald gene just right before it managed to manifest and make him unfuckable
>>5131162Good luck is when a random mutation improves the individual. Bad luck is when the mutations make the individual worse or when an improved individual dies before being able to reproduce.If you define luck this way it's pretty central to evolution.
>>5131661This. /Thread
>>5131315Are you being obtuse on purpose?
>>5131245low IQ post
>>5131245High IQ post. Most life evolved naturally. Humans clearly did not. And there is ZERO evidence they did. Transitional forms have a hard cutoff between them and us. They would, however, have made good stock for creating modern humans. The sumerian creation “myth” and accounts of the abzu were only lightly fictionalized through the ignorance and mental simplicity of the people at the time.
>>5132299>abzu*apkallu
>>5131162Evolution and luck are basically the same thing. You're alive because of the genetic luck your ancestors had.If you're like me though, you won't even be lucky enough to pass on your genes.
>>5132821>>5131661>>5131681Yeah, but when I made this thread I was going more along the lines of these anons >>5131250 and >>5131215 where your genes have nothing to do with it, where you would have been successful except for literally one thingLike I was reading about an invasive lizard that showed up somewhere in a europe shopping market and they were doing fine until the landscapers removed some plants and stray cats got them, and then they went extinct. They would have been fine if that didn't happen, or if they showed up a couple years earlier to build up their population more.Or rafting across the continents like monkeys and reptiles did from africa to south america. so many stars had to align for that to happen i kinda dont even buy it
>>5133715>I was reading about an invasive lizard that showed up somewhere in a europe shopping market and they were doing fine until the landscapers removed some plants and stray cats got them, and then they went extinct. They would have been fine if that didn't happen, or if they showed up a couple years earlier to build up their population more.Which lizard?
>>5133715you may be mistaking the scale of the two things you're describing, luck and evolution.Lucky or unlucky are used to refer to occurrences, it has an implied value judgement that something good or bad happened.Evolution is a process that encompasses innumerable such occurrences over a large amount of time. It doesn't suggest a judgement, just a explanatory mechanism.The anecdotes about the lizard and rafting animals are something you could say is lucky or not, but evolution has nothing to do with it.
