Let's have a thread about it. >SMOLDERING HELLSCAPE BE VERY AFRAID EDITION
>>5137445Would this cease to be a problem if the Sahara was replaced with an ocean?
>>5137462yes
>>5137462just lay a seawater pipeline coming from the other side of the planet to the sahara.
Medbros won, this time atlanticfags are deep frying while we're just getting cooked as usual t. boiling frog
>>5137445Would this cease to be a problem if Earth was spinning retrograde?
>>5137466I mean, maybe?
The worse is yet to come.
>>5137445>Weather is natureFeels like a bit of a slippery slope. Eventually most /sci/ content could end up here by virtue of being about "nature."
>>5137445bet they're regretting not getting air conditioning lol
>>5137488It was not needed not a while ago.
>44,7The metric faggotry is bad enough but the comma is just retarded.
>>5137506>0 - water freezes>100 - water boilsThis enrages and confuses some.
This is incomprehensible forbidden black magic to an entire continent
>>5137515Window units are for poor people and Mayans. And the average Europoor is poorer than a Mississippian. I'm loving the hear and rain in New England. Literal paradise now.
>>5137515And then moment this stops working you will fucking kill yourself.
>>5137527Or just go down to walmart or lowes and buy another one.
There's less fog knocking about than when I was a lad why is that, is it the jews?
>>5137533>is it the jews?Yes, and also trannies. It's incredible how much power these groups have
Permaculture would take care of all this.
>>5137531Do you have solar panels? Because it's the grid that died.
we are going to live to see the anthrogene extinction event
>>5137550It's not a thing that happens over night. Permian–Triassic extinction event occurred over 50k years.We will live through the collapse of human civilization as we know it, though.
>>5137487i know nothing about weather except when freak weather events happen and i enjoy people talking about it, would be cool if weather autists had a place on this board so i can lurk
>>5137519You must love the ticks too?
>>5137515Where does this come from?I just moved to Spain and every single flat in this suburb has AC.I kind of like it - like having a Nest without the spyware. Turn it on in the room I want colder and let the rest of the house do its thing.
too warm help
>>5137722Sorry house is already locked, no help is comingGood time to be a neet
>>5137725>NEET but no AC
>>5137712people in europe die of heat stroke, in 2024, 60000 people died because of heat
>>5137553All I see is a gypsy replacing a white person
>>5137744That is not really an answer as to where the idea of a lack of ability to get AC comes from.I lived in Germany for two years back in the 90s and every house could be temp controlled in the summer.Granted when I was visiting in France and Austria it was during colder months so I didnt notice, but now living in Spain I see AC over.So I dont understand where this "Europe is afraid of or angry at AC" comes from, rather than "Europe is poor and prefers to write off the deaths instead of pay for it."Good way to keep that socialist healthcare cost down if all your elderly are passing in their sweaty sleep.
>>5137746>too stupid to read the text to get the context of the imageaverage racist incel IQ at work
>>5137513>Hey how hot is outside today>About a quarter of the way from the temperature water freezes at to the temperature water boils at>Gee thanks!
>>5137727Freeze some water bottles.
>Going into work and the Sri Lankans, Ghanaians, Gambians, Filipinos, Thais and Tunisians are faring worse than the native Brits.
>>5137748it does when you have 10 of thousands of people die of heat stroke, also most people assume europe is richer than the usa when its not
been around 18-22C here in the north all week
>>5137860Sir it's barely June. Patience.
>>5137877please dont tell me its gonna get hotter, this is already unbearable
>>5137488oh the irony
>>5137829In what sensible way would you define 0 and 100 degrees? I think water is a reasonable reference point
>>5137954>I think water is a reasonable reference pointIt is, the problem is that sharts were inculcated from an early age that their way is the best in the world and everyone else's is inferior. It's why there's so many on the Internet whose brains get broken at learning there's other ways of doing things. They short circuit, their error handling state takes over and they start screeching "NOPE WE'RE THE BEST USA USA USA". They're not going this as a shitpost, they're doing that because again they've been told they're the best all their lives. All the while worshiping billionaire pedophiles, continuing to fall behind European countries in academic benchmarks, and slowly suffocating their middle class.
>>5137959You depend on us to pretend to be prosperous (while paying inherently terrorist desert cultists to replace you instead of using your extensive welfare state for your own flesh and blood) and when this is brought up you claim collective responsibility for the dutch tech industryMeanwhile we are already terrorist desert cultists. So I guess we get to replace you next? Maybe once you’re 100% muslim we can bomb you and continue earth’s proud history of western desert cult warfare and china standing in a corner doing nothing
This is what you guys get for making fun of Texans for not being able to deal with the February 2021 freeze. (Damn you ERCOT)
>>5137832>freeze bottle of water in 2026>it bursts because (((they))) made the plastic as thin as possible """for the environment"""
>>5137980autism
>>5137959>brains get broken at learning there's other ways of doing things. They short circuit, their error handling state takes over and they start screechingyou mean like you're doing right now?
Imagine being cooked before you even reach the kitchen.
>>5137964>incoherent corn syrup-induced shart rambling about shit no one said>>5138061>you mean like you're doing right now?I didn't say anything about Fahrenheit or any other American system. Weird projection.
>>5137954Pretty cold and pretty hot
>>5138096thats subjective
>>5137954The main change - aside from just getting used to a specific range of numbers - is that Farenheit has smaller increments, so using it in the general range of temps offers more distinction.Going from 75 degrees to 80 gives more nuance than going from 24 to 26.
>>5137954its not, its just as arbitrary
>>5138331Thats right. But, meh.If you really need it that specific, you can say 24,7.>>5138335What do you mean? Thats literally the opposite of arbitrary
>>5138335Are you retarded? The melting/freezing point of water especially is obviously very relevant when talking about the weather.
>>5138339>>5138336it arbitrary because its still relative to specific conditions of atmosphere, its not a universal constant like an actual element, like 1 second is the half life of cesium 133 or kelvin measurements, water only boils at 100C at 1 atmosphere, which is the problem with metric system, its claims to be not arbitrary as imperial when its just as, it just uses different reference medium(and a shittier numeral system)
>>5138344you know what, thats actually fair criticism. I thought you were just trolling.But according to your concerns, Fahrenheit has even more levels of being arbitrary. Celsius is less arbitrary. At least Celsius is based on the Kelvin skala
>>5138489kelvin is based on celsius, but i can accept that because its based on the fact that zero is zero, you cant have negative heatalso i dont care about degrees of arbitrariness, it either is or isnt and metric is arbitrary
>tfw I've spent multiple summers in south georgia and texas with air conditioning Absolutely zero sympathy from me eurofriends. If you've got a house try putting a box fan in an upstairs window blowing OUT, and a box fan on a downstairs window (north facing if possible) blowing IN. Its not going to keep you from sweating, but it will get some better airflow with cooler air being pulled inside while pushing out the hottest air. If it isn't too humid you can get a big shallow pan, fill it with a bunch of ice, cover it in salt, and let a fan blow across it pointed at you. You'd be surprised at how effective your DIY swamp cooler can be in a pinch. Also remember that the closer the temperature in the shade gets to your body temp, fans stop cooling you down, and it becomes a convection oven. Freeze some wetted towels and put those around your neck. After that, you just get some clear liquor and ice, and keep drinking until you don't feel the heat anymore.
>>5138508>you cant have negative heatYou can actually. I'm sure you can find a youtube video on it that can give you the net net better than I can. Its one of those things that will twist your brain a little until you look at it again and see the logic in it.
>>5138344>water only boils at 100C at 1 atmosphereWhich is how celsius is defined. 0 is the freezing point of water at exactly 1 atmosphere. So its very specific and exact and not arbitrary at all
>>5138529you cant go below absolute zero, absolute zero the absence of atomic movement, literally the whole basis of kelvin
>>5138558thats still arbitrary, because the state of the medium is still relative to its local conditions, and whatever that is is you preference, that is by definition arbitrary. it is no less arbitrary, that whatever mediums they used for the imperial system, because water freezes at 32C and 212F
>>5138559>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperatureyou can
>>5137954>In what sensible way would you define 0 and 100 degrees? I think water is a reasonable reference pointWhy do you need a "sensible" way to define the 0 and 100 points? It's entirely irrelevant to actually using it. It doesn't matter if a metre is based on the king's foot or one millionth of the equator or anything else, there's no point other than satisfying the autistic desires of a select few. The only reason metric is better than old measurements is ease of conversion but this is irrelevant for temperature, there's no actual tangible benefit to celsius over fahrenheit.
>>5137445Still going strong. Today Im just going to sit in a lake and drink cold beer all day.
>>5137515Why do so many people think that? There is air conditioning everywhere here
>>5138564thats not below zero, thats just talking about heat transferring in a closed system>A substance with a negative temperature is not colder than absolute zero, but rather it is hotter than infinite temperature>Since there is no upper bound on the momentum of an atom, there is no upper bound to the number of energy states available when more energy is added, and therefore no way to get to a negative temperature.
>>5138601Its still negative. It is expressed that way and used like this mathematically.
>>5138564I didn't understand that page at all.
>>5137445>SMOLDERING HELLSCAPE BE VERY AFRAID EDITIONas in this is just propped up by the media to fear monger? the temperatures are actually breaking records and it's going to suck if it keeps going like this
>>5138611but thats not below zero, its just saying that heat is going down
>>5138617Negative is indeed below zero
>>5138619except it literally tells you in the page you listed that it is not below zero, it is in fact the opposite, its entirely above zero
>>5138620Yes anon, it is "hotter" than regular temperatures. Its about reversed energy states. I am not saying, that it is colder than zero. These are still negative values that are mathematically below zero
>>5138621are you retarded? because i very clearly stated that you cant below zero in kelvin which is literally the point of kelvin
>>5138621It obviously isn't, the negative is a notational convenience, this system isn't the typical real numbers we are used to, where x + -x = 0, and there isn't an additive identity in the typical sense. Congrats on being dictionary example of midwit, just smart enough to learn and repeat a complicated idea, not enough to actually understand it. Try again after you understand basic group theory.
>>5138075>inhumane farming conditions with no ventilation and no room to move around in order to maximize profit per square meter causes animals to die once it gets too hotWOW HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW
>>5138647You are a mental gymnastics olympic gold medal winner. I am not going to entertain your retarded notion of a negative value not being below zero. The whole point of "negative temperatures" is that that the energy states are reversed. So in any calculation about this the temperature is negativ
>>5137445> 45° is not so hot, should be green on the map
>>5138741saar
LMAOing at toasty europoors
>>5137712>Where does this come from?From you assholes making fun of us having central heating/cooling for like 20 years. It wouldn't really be a shock to learn that you were lying just to try and dunk on America because you're spiteful eurotrash. It would fit the trend of being disappointing however.
>>5138741They are literally ordered positive less than negative in that way in the article that *YOU* posted.>The temperature scale from cold to hot runs +0K,…, +300K,…,+∞K, −∞K,…, −300K,…, −0K.>Note that if a system at −300K is brought into thermal contact with an identical system at 300K, the final equilibrium temperature is not 0K, but is ±∞K.Negatives are only "less than" positives on the usual real line because Total Ordering imposed on it that makes it so, but not this one. I don't know how much more clearly this can be stated, and I don't have enough crayons and construction paper to explain Lattice Theory to someone of your cognitive ability.
>>5137462I am friends with an African man called Muntu who currently works as a potwash but he intends to take over Africa (he'll take over one country, he hasn't decided which one yet, but possibly Ghana, and then he'll conquer the rest with his armies and rule the entire continent) and then he will begin a massive project to turn the Sahara desert into an ocean. He says this will improve Africa and Europe. He has many plans for Africa that me and him have discussed in detail while smoking weed.
>>5138789Agent Muntu? We were buddies in my CIA days
>>5138774saar
DING DONG THE HEAT IS DEAD
>>5138774You need to work on your reading comprehension and general reading skills
>>5138841saar
>>5137553>We will live through the collapse of human civilization as we know it, though.Yeah, it will get ugly.
>>5138850this is a retarded prediction,you know what happens when water gets warmer, it evaporates and the water just doesnt leave the planet, it has to go somewhere and thats right back on everything, the planet being warmer doesnt make it drier, it makes it wetter. if you want a desert, build solar panels and wind turbines
>>5137829As someone made primarily out of liquid water that evolved at roughly the lower 1/4 temperature region where water remains a liquid, this is good to know
>>5138854>the planet being warmer doesnt make it drier, it makes it wetterIn the timescale of thousands of years, yes, but that's irrelevant. In the timescale of our lives and those of the next hundred generations it will be a drier planet.
>>5138935>retard thinks global weather patterns reach stasis immediately
is it finally over?
>>5138935You are a midwit
>>5137553The Permian-Triassic extinction was only as bad as it was because of the arrangement of the continents. You know how the coldest city in the world is in in Yakutia Siberia, but it gets to like 30 celsius in the summer? When the whole Earth's landmasses are mashed into a supercontinent the climate becomes super continental too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene%E2%80%93Eocene_thermal_maximumhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12728184/Even if we somehow achieved the CO2 concentrations of that time period, it would probably look much more like the PETM in which vegetation died back as climate zones shifted for a couple hundred thousand years (but never became a hellish desert, just enough to stop expected amounts of carbon drawdown by vegetation) and you would be able to grow palm trees in Newfoundland for a while. Human land use and exploitation is probably a bigger threat to most animals at risk of extinction than climate change is.
>>5138854>>5138850>when water gets warmer, it evaporates and the water just doesnt leave the planet, it has to go somewhere and thats right back on everythingThat would account for the rising sea levels, as stated on the map.
>>5139031thats not how that works, that only applies to melting glacial formations, sea levels arent going to rise because it starts raining more, theyre going to stay the same
>>5139038>sea levels arent going to rise because it starts raining more, theyre going to stay the sameAh yes, of course.
>>5139039where do you think the rain is coming from, you dumb retard
>>5139038>sea levels arent going to rise because it starts raining moreof course it does you moron. I guess you have some childlike understanding of the water cycle. You must think it is perfect and every single drop that rains will end up in the ocean and evaporate again
>>5139047saar
>>5139047Where do you think that the water that evaporates to form rainclouds comes from you chocolatey dark black simian?
>>5139055What makes you assume the amount of evaporation and rain is always constant? You clearly know absolute shit about this topic.
>>5138933>In the timescale of our lives and those of the next hundred generations it will be a drier planetwhy?
>next heat wave is already forecast starting next weekI have heat fatigue
>>5138950No, apparently it was just a little break
>>5138789Is your friend aware that the Sahara desert is nowhere near ghana ?
>Tornado in Germany>Germans: Haha look at that funny looking sky penis *raises smartphone and films it*They really don't know how to deal with the new climate phenomenons coming for them I guess
>>5139580the wars killed all the smart lineages of people
>>5139580Climate change must be something if eastern dragons are being found in Europe.
>>5139580I mean that barely even is a tornado. It was extremely weak compared to the average US tornado. Just look how calm the wind is in the video
>>5138789>and then he will begin a massive project to turn the Sahara desert into an ocean. He says this will improve Africa and Europe.I mean, it'd drown most muslims in Africa and therefore reduce net muslim migration to Europe by half or so.So he's right, but it doesn't have much to do with the climate.
>>5139580
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>>5140128>it's a "broooo it's totally the sun humans dindunuffin to earth's climate broooo" thread
>>5138850unless somebody figures out a room-temperature superconductor that's cheap enough to use for powerlines, the whole concept of massive solar farms on the equator powering the upper latitudes isn't going to be viable due to transmission losses; if it was, europe would have already funded solar farms in the sahara
TURN IT OFF
>>5139580to be fair there are dedicated groups of americans who go out of their way to get as close as possible to tornadoes and point a camera at them
>>5142577Ostensibly storm chasers are doing it for meteorological research.
