I'm supposed to believe nobody ever dug up a large dinosaur bone and displayed it? People thought giants existed forever, so finding a bone you assume to be from a giant would be an amazing discovery and holy artifact. None? Nobody ever found one until 1699?>check Wikipedia>pre scientific study>someone wrote about a big bone in China 1700 years ago, but it was not a dinosaur boneSomething people would be looking for forever and would be seen as a religious artifact was never ever mentioned by anyone, except a chinaman 1700 years ago and a guy in 1699? Seems like a giant scam to me. Plus the vast majority of display pieces are fake. The actual fossils look like worn rocks, and the rest is extrapolated by "scientists." They even make reproductions where the bones are half cast in plaster, so it looks like real bones they found in a rock. What an insane way to mislead audiences. Making shit up and lying to the public is not science.
>I'm supposed to believe nobody ever dug up a large dinosaur bone and displayed it? People thought giants existed forever, so finding a bone you assume to be from a giant would be an amazing discovery and holy artifact. None? Nobody ever found one until 1699?No one has claimed this, in fact we have TONS of evidence showing thats untrue
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>>5145151>look how real this is>here's a plaster cast>conjecture with no sourcesUnconvincing argument
>>5145157not your best bait, is it?you should have gone with "raptor toe claws, what were they FOR?"haven't had that thread in a while
>>5145159>instead of disproving you by providing evidence, I will call it baitIf you start with the assumption you are right its easy to win debates. Any refutation on why they were never discussed until basically 1850?
>>5145161what if you threw a debate and nobody showed up?you'd just be winning all day, huh?
>>5145165You are refusing to provide any evidence or explanation to why dinosaurs were not discovered discussed before 1699? Just whining like a woman? I accept your concession.Next in line please!
>>5145154>that namewhy are we like this
>>5145144People were not exceedingly curious about useless knowledge. They were far too busy not dying to give a shit about dead giant lizard bones. Besides, everyone already knew about leviathan and behemoth from the stories told by some caveman that saw some giant bones once.
>>5145214the funny part to me is some scientists had to go to court and argue that "Scrotum humanum" wasn't intended as a serious name so we wouldn't have a dinosaur named Scrotum and Dinosauria in general named Scrotes or something similar
The joke being that "Scrotum Humanum" is the oldest dinosaur name on record, and predates Owen's naming of the Dinosauria by 166 years.
>>5145275for comparison, Scrotum Humanum was almost as far before the naming of dinosaurs as the naming of dinosaurs was before now.When dinosaurs were named dinosaurs 184 years ago, Scrotum was already 166 years olddinosaurs were named 184 years ago, the first dinosaur was named Scrotum 350 years ago
>>5145214because>heh, penisits thats simple
>>5145144The whole genre of >OMG X DIDNT EXIST BEFORE 1700 THEY LYIN TO USconspiracy theories is the dumbest pop-history addled GED retards not understanding the modern era or the enlightenment or industrialization and are trying to reinvent science from first principles.Pre modern people weren't digging in the ground as much, and when they did find fossils it disn't surprise them because every culture had some mythological conception of dragons or giants or something, so people mostly just went about their day or ground up the fossil to gain its power.People have really only known about animals in a biological sense for the past couple of hundred years. Nobody knew that storks migrated or that insects didn't spontaneously generate inside of carcasses until very recently. So when industrial Europe started digging up dinosaur fossils, they only identified them as dinosaurs because there were people systematizing existing animals and comparing their bones against the ones being dug up, and even then they had no idea how old they were or why there weren't any animals like them around today, so they still used the bible as a reference point.
>>5145239They saw bones but never picked one up? For thousands of years? Thats the point. If they think the bones are holy they would take it and show it off.>>5145283>uhhh its 400 years old not 200Ignoring the massive gap on purpose?>>5145340>youre dumbThen you have an explanation?>people DID find bones>but they destroyed them on purpose and never wrote about itThats always happens in history. We have records of bread sales and vendor conflicts in cuneiform, but not those big bones everyone kept digging up! Still waiting for an explanation.
>>5145340>i found these holy bones>I'm going to destroy them in secret and not brag about itLol
>>5145349>find the holy bones of a god, which can give you their powers if you ground them up and snort them>do you>A: tell the whole village about it so they come to burn down your house and skin you and hang you before taking it for themselves>B: ground them up and snort them in secret
>>5145371Anon we are talking about historical fact, not making things up that confirms your own beliefs. If people found holy artifacts there would certainly be records of it. There isn't until the 1600s, and they weren't widespread until the mid 1800s. You aren't explaining the gap other than "everyone who found one destroyed it, ate it, and told none."
>>5145406You know there were dragon bone markets all over the world right? A huge swath of the fossil record was destroyed. Mingled with random humans and mammals and sold as charms and dick powder. All the way back to 350BC. No one kept good records because it was irrelevant superstition then>of course leviathan existed its here in tje bible>put those fucking things back its probably demonic
>>5145347>They saw bones but never picked one up?you've clearly never seen dinosaur bones in real life.they usually don't look like bones when they're exposed at the surface. They typically break into thousands of pieces. Generally you can't pick them up and even if you did, nobody would know what that weird shaped rock is anyways.Your understanding of fossils is child-like and retarded
>>5145144Some Chinese fucker deffo dug one up and grounded it into medicine at least 4000 years ago
>>5145422Native american tribes all had names for fossil bones, but OP doesn't want to discuss facts.he just wants to "debate" and "argument" and prance around like he won some great contest when all he really did was stubbornly stick to his retardation
>>5145144You clearly didn't check Wikipedia.
>>5145273That's before the Linnaean cut off anyway.
>>5145144what do you think dragons are? people found fossils and thought they must be dragons
This is a medieval bat. Despite living around bats the monk that drew it didn't know what they looked like, they were just fluttering things in the night and he was fine with it. That's been the case throughout history. We find weird bones, go "huh, weird bones" and move on. Maybe we assume they belonged to a monster but without future luxuries and eccentrics there really isn't much reason to cause a fuss.
>>5145410>we don't have evidence for superstitious things but do have mesopotamian baking recordsLol>>5145419>youre a child like retardCool, still doesnt explain why nobody for thousands of years ever wrote about them. I'll accept your concession.>>5145422Didnt write about it though?>>5145428Try using fact based arguments and historical evidence instead of crying I'm a dummy for accepting things with zero evidence.
>>5145579>people's most holy religious books talk about giants>people would be incentivized to keep the bones as proof their preferred religious book is real, and as a holy artifact>nope>ignore them and don't tell anyone>for 1 thousand plus years until a guy in the 1600s and mid 1800s
*I'm a dummy for not accepting things with zero evidence.
>>5145625>dont tell me why im stupid also do my research for me while i babble about the same stupid shit that makes sense in my headYou could have just googled this but you probably think everything besides answers in genesis is da jooz because you’re a fucking retard
>>5145637>You could have just googled thisI did, and found zero evidence from before the 1600s. Going to prove me wrong or keep using circular reasoning while calling me dumb? Otherwise I will continue believing this is a hoax that was made for profit.
>>5145625>>people's most holy religious books talk about giants>>people would be incentivized to keep the bones as proof their preferred religious book is real, and as a holy artifactYou have some misunderstandings about history. For most of Europe's Christian history there was only one holy book and there was no argument about it. They'd have no reason to keep bones as proof because there was nothing to prove; their beliefs were a matter of faith and even if they wanted to convert a pagan they'd have no use because the pagans also believed in giants. They did find remains though and assumed they were from dragons and other monsters. Pic rel is the bones from the Dragon of Wawel hanging from Wawel Cathedral in Poland as an example. Before that we have records of people in antiquity finding shit.>emperor constantine traveled to antioch to see the bones of a satyr preserved in salt >procopius goes to benevento in italy to see the calydonian boar's giant tusks >pliny writes about a consul that kept the bones of an unknown sea monster >emperor augustus used ancient artifacts as decorations in one of his villas, including the bones of monstersThe only thing that's changed is our reach and that we're studying them as actual animals instead of monsters. If someone found something strange 1000 years ago there was nobody he could call to take a look. There weren't people traveling the world recording bones, no museums to donate to or any incentive to do anything with them. The best he could do is shrug and ask a priest who'd tell him something about dragons.
>anons are STILL feeding this retardYikes
>>5145665So we DO have dinosaur bones from ancient times? Can I see them? Any explanation on why we have mesopotamian bread sales records but nothing on mythical beast/dragon bones? Doesnt that seem more important than bread sales?>>5145666You already conceded when you couldn't provide evidence, and could only use ad hominem. Bye!
>>5145665Thats a whale bone BTW. Not a dinosaur bone. Funny how dragon bones are not dinosaur bones, but a common creature everyone has written about forever.
>>5145671How would we have dino bones from 2000 years ago? That's an insane amount of goal post moving. The best we have is writings.
>>5145665>>5145671Holy relics have always been a huge scam. The bones of a saint, the heart of a martyr, the holy grail, the shroud of Turin, blah blah blah they were all scams to fleece semi-poor or middle-class zealots. The entirety of the Renaissance and Enlightenment and Protestant Reformation and Industrial Revolution was based off one group of aristocracy wanting to end the Catholic monopoly on scams, so they invented their own religion, Science.>https://chemtrails.substack.com/p/snake-oil-and-the-rise-of-the-dinosaurs
>>5145677Okay, everything is a scam, you figured it out. Now you can believe anything you want and pretend anyone who thinks differently is part of a grand conspiracy to call you retarded.
>>5145679If paleontology and dinosaurs are fraudulent, then the millions if not couple billion dollars propping up the field/industry is illegal. Museums and universities should be held to the same standard as a rogue bishop selling Saint Justin's underpants, which would be fines and jail time for anyone complicit.
>>5145674>How would we have dino bones from 2000 years ago?The same way we have clay tablets of bakery disputes from 2000 years ago.>>5145677Pretty much. The shroud of Turin does appear to be as old as claimed due to carbon daring.>>5145681BASED. Thats what I'm getting at with the OP. They mislead the public on purpose. They don't explicitly tell everyone all the display pieces are fake. They don't tell everyone the half open rock wasn't found like that, its a fake skelton cast in plaster. It also explains why they would keep up this illusion. MASSIVE amounts of funding. Billions of dollars. They get to charge ticket sales. They get to artificially promote "science" above religion. It has nothing to do with the factual study of the world.
>>5145624>Didnt write about it though?Research Long gu (dragon bones). They appear in the Shennong Bencaojing documenting Chinese medicine of the 1st and 2nd centuries.Clearly its not dragons, but dinosaur bones.
>>5145144They are dragons.Gotta make up a story to make sure the world doesn’t know who our actual gods and overlords were (are).
>>5145624Eventually 4chan is going to realize your bullshit drives limited engagement but doesn't attract a single new user to the siteand more importantly chases sane people away.and then they're going to get rid of you. Probably soon given traffic lately. You're not doing your job.
>>5145697Wikipedia states those are mostly mammal bones. That would only explain a lack of Dino bones in china, not everywhere else.>>5145709You are so bad at debate you think my posts will get 4chan shut down? Lmao.
>>5145722>Wikipedia statesngmi
>>5145723>i want proof of dinosaur bones>look up the Chinese word for dragon bones, thats probably dino bones>look inside>rhinos, deer, horses, hyena, tapirs, orangutan, porkupine, panda, mammal bones, petrified wood, oxGuess what's not in that list? DINOSAUR BONES
>show me the proof>no i mean proof you personally saw>earth is 600 years old!your questions were already answeredyou are a paranoid schizophrenic
>>5145737BUT MUH BREAD
Dinosaur bones aren't that easy to find, usually they're encased in rocks and hard to tell what they are unless you know what you're looking for. On the rare cases people found them, they just assumed they were giants/dragons/creatures that died in the great flood.
>>5145722>You are so bad at debate you think my posts will get 4chan shut down? Lmao.no4chan is bleeding users because they employ literal retards like you to spam rage bait all day.and at some point someone is going to approach the owner with an offer to make the place profitable by getting rid of you
>>5145964Are you threatening to attempt to negotiate a hit job with hiro? LmaoActual schizophrenicAnd having served with the JIDF – I know a schizo when I see one
>>5145981You're the only schizo here. But to a schizo everyone seems crazythis is why nobody wants to talk to you by the way. This is why the place gets quieter every year
>>5145983Who am I?Link 3 of my postsProvide pictures of my dog and cat as well
>>5145681>If paleontology and dinosaurs are fraudulent, then the millions if not couple billion dollars propping up the field/industry is illegal>couple billion dollarsLmao. Yeah. For 300 years, the Freemasons have been using dinosaurs and mammoths and mosasaurs to fleece the public of upwards of thousands of dollars in funding per year so they can go live in tents on the desert for 8 months.
>>5145988Why?You just deny being youI would too, you're a piece of shit
>>5146008>no, because then my delusions would be shattered and i wouldn’t accept that3 posts. Dog. Cat. Don’t be a pussy.
>>5146010You don't fool anyone because there's almost nobody here
>>5145852Nobody throughout history wrote about or kept this alleged mythical beast bone? Not a single one?>>5145964>>5145981>>5145983>>5145988Samefag derailing
>>5146008>>5146010>>5146023Samefag is mad dinosaurs are a hoax and he can't provide proof of them from before 1700.>>5145999>thousandsIts billions of dollars.
>>5146029>>5146027RetardThere were dinosaur bones before 1700. People simply destroyed them or ignored them, and those who did not ignore them could not take them. Excavating one intact takes skill. They just said they were dead monsters. https://classics.stanford.edu/publications/first-fossil-hunters-dinosaurs-mammoths-and-myth-greek-and-roman-timesYou can find info like this all over the placeWhat you cant find is, say… consistency in the bible unless you assume paul was a false apostle and everything in the OT not postfixed with so saith the lord is made up.
>>5146049MESOPOTAMIAN BREADBREEEEEAD
This will forever be true
>>5146083>more and more internet users will believe everything they readIncredibly grim
>>5146083>>5146087>non sequitur genetic fallacyCan you provide an explanation to why ancient people never wrote about or preserved dinosaur bones? The only answer so far is>ancient people ate them and never wrote about it
I feel like the Jewish shills are really mad at this thread. Almost zero discussion on facts or history, just calling people stupid for not believing in circular reasoning.
>>5146098They probably just said they were dragons or something else, kind of like how ancient people explained elephant skulls as cyclopses.
>>5146109JEWISH BREADIN MESOPOTAMIA
>>5145144Half of the animals on earth TODAY weren't discovered by "science" until a century ago, why would this be surprising?
>>5146124They didn't though. Zero writings or physical artifacts.>>5146147Because big S "Science" is a modern religion and scam for tax dollars through grant money?Youre also talking about species, not broad categories of animals. Ancient people extensively wrote about whales, horses, cows, wolves, etc.
>>5146193wrong
>>5146193It's so interesting how every politically captured person always recites the exact same stuff with the exact same wording over and over like from a script or pamphlet. Marching orders.
>>5146193As opposed to a pre-modern religion where your omnipotent god didn’t bother to tell us clear facts about life and the history of this planet?
>>5146208It's literally schizophrenic stereotypy from persecution complex
This thread is proof that humans truly are the worst animals on this planet. What a waste of resources that have gone into getting us to this specific point in time.
>>5145691You're being intentionally obtuse, or an actual retard.That a single random clay tablet about baking disputes is a significant historical artifact should clue you in on how fucking rare any artifact from that long ago are. How many clay tablets about baking disputes and any other mundane facts of life do you think have been lost to time, you goddamn mouth breather? If out of untold millions and billions of daily life doodads from 2-3000 years ago have been lost to time for one to survive, you think what is the chance is for, what is essentially a exceedingly rare hunk of stone in bone shape to survive? Even if some were not ground up into alchemist powder or elixirs of giants strength and were stored in vaults or churches, said vaults and churches burn down, get pillages, looted or destroyed by the next group of people with a different sky daddy belief. Fucking shit you're so goddamn retarded.
>>5146226Tech progress is purely a numbers game. For every useful person you have to raise a few million relatively useless ones.Technologically useless people resenting technology is expected and ignored
>>5146194About?>>5146208>>5146214Not an argument. (Genetic fallacy and claiming mental illness) kill yourself kike>>5146211Thanks for proving my point modern Science is a religion, and you think it teaches us about the world when it barely knows anything, while intentionally lying (like the OP subject which you still haven't proven existed before 1699.)
>>5146226>>5146253These posts are proof that when you challenge the religion of Science, you can't provide the most basic evidence, which is supposed to be your holy grail.>>5146241>WE HAVE ZERO EVIDENCE... JUST BECAUSE OK??? YES WE HAVE BAKING RECORDS AND KIDS BITCHING ABOUT WORN CLOTHES, BUT NOT SOMETHING WAY MORE IMPORTANT AND HOLY!!!You are coping. You have no evidence. You have the opposite of evidence, conjecture.
>I only believe things with evidence. I follow the scientific method>why is there zero evidence for dinosaurs before 1699? >REEE REEE THIS MAN IS A MENTALLY ILL SCHIZOPHRENIC! MEDICATE OR JAIL HIM!Thanks for confirming Dinos are a Jewish scam?
>>5146275If you weren't mentally ill you'd realize you're ignoring examples for the sake of your own pre- drawn conclusions and then only accepting examples from places that even now have almost no dinosaurs.And failing to realize that past cultures were creationists, cretins, and imbeciles just like you
Either people are actually this stupid, or this committed to getting a rise out of others on the internet, depressing either way.
>>5146271The existence of genes and embryology alone (if we ignore fossil evidence) makes it impossible for Biblical Genesis and anything but the modern, scientific view of evolution and abiogenesis to be true. Calling this “intentionally lying” is preposterous.
>>5146279>genetic fallacy, not an argumentWho knew the strongest believers in Science™ can only call you mentally ill when you ask for their own evidence.>>5146302Provide evidence of dinosaurs before 1699.
>>5146311>Provide evidence of dinosaurs before 1699Straw manYou're the only "person" claiming such evidence should existBecause you're a fucking retard
>>5145340>People have really only known about animals in a biological sense for the past couple of hundred years. Also important to mention that the concept of deep time just didn't exist at all until the 18th/19th centuries. Most cultures either believed in a young Earth only a few thousand years old or that Earth was eternal but static and mostly unchanging.
>>5146311You were linked a book about this obscure subject earlier in this thread. The book even directs you to the primary evidence. Why is it obscure? Because fossils have been independently discovered so many times the alternative to dinosaurs existing is evil aliens creating our planet from scratch and then planting fake bones and puppeteering every institution and knowledgeable individual to convince us it’s older to stop us from following a cult started by other aliens that is, itself, blatantly wrong about well tested and proven things and basically alt history because it is the grapevined and mythologized and then stolen oral history of a small group of indo-iranians that tried and failed to conquer the levant, went native, and got all but wiped out by rome. What you imagine is the beginning of all history i imagine as some pale injun-tier primitives telling campfire stories>up that mountain, grugg ancestor noah came. lots of water then. sun was angry.
>>5146278>you're ignoring examples for the sake of your own pre- drawn conclusions>has yet to provide examples prior to 1699>>5146279>still no evidence, just the genetic fallacy/ad hominem>>5146302NOBODY CARESPROVIDE EVIDENCE OF DINOSAURS PEIOR TO 1699.>>5146328>youre retarded if you question science™I didn't know the foundation of the scientific method was calling people stupid when they ask for evidence.
>>5146696None of that is relevant to evidence that dinosaurs existed prior to 1699. The fact you faggots keep spamming>THE EARTH ISNT 6000 YEARS OLD>EVOLUTION>ABIOGENESISWhen asked for EVIDENCE OF DINOSAURS kinda proves the point they are a way to attack religion, and scientific evidence of dinosaurs existence is secondary to that goal.I'll ask again. Provide evidence of dinosaurs prior to 1699, and not excuses like "people ate the bones and never wrote about it."
>>5146733>Roman naturalist Pliny the Elder wrote of "tongue stones", which he called glossopetra. These were fossil shark teeth, thought by some classical cultures to look like the tongues of people or snakes.[20] He also wrote about the horns of Ammon, which are fossil ammonites, whence the group of shelled octopus-cousins ultimately draws its modern name. Pliny also makes one of the earlier known references to toadstones, thought until the 18th century to be a magical cure for poison originating in the heads of toads, but which are fossil teeth from Lepidotes, a Cretaceous ray-finned fish.[21]>b-but dinosaursDinosaur fossils are a rarity even among fossils.Of course it would be the far more common index fossils of things like ammonites or fish teeth that would be regularly encountered enough to develop their own mythology among pre-modern people.
>>5146732You're asking for evidence of YOUR fantasyOf course nobody has evidence of that, it's your fucking fantasy, retard
>>5145144>very obvious bait thread>retards still bitethis thread is why I fully believe that bullying autists into acting normal is healthy for their development.
>>5148007I don't think a genuine autistic would get the same glee OP does out of fooling people.Making autistics conform would just mean less genuine replies it wouldn't mean OP would stop and would likely escalate in a vacuum of attention.
>>5148007>>5148009I'm noticing the thread is full of people saying "OP is a retard trying to fool you on purpose" and not "here's evidence of why dinosaurs were never discussed of written about prior to 1699."Great job Science™ fags.
>>5146740Asking for evidence is a fantasy? What?>>5146735>ancient people did find fossils... But no dinosaur bonesPeople have been finding fossils forever, yet no dinosaur bones until 1699? More evidence they are a hoax
>>5145677>The entirety of the Renaissance and Enlightenment and Protestant Reformation and Industrial Revolution was based off one group of aristocracy wanting to end the Catholic monopoly on scams, so they invented their own religion, Science.>>https://chemtrails.substack.com/p/snake-oil-and-the-rise-of-the-dinosaursThat makes a ton of sense. They are also satanists so promoting secular moral reletavism is completely aligned with their ideology.
>>5148007>Geosaurusi had never heard about it before and i'm in love. what an awesome creature
>>5146733Every bit of evidence opposes genesis and exodus at the least, meaning jews made shit upPaul is explicitly a false apostleJesus opposed rabbinical churches (such as the catholics)The bible is a big story about god torturing jews in particular, rather than being a loving and caring god (gay jews? meteor. gay romans? empire)But sure, the evidence that1: behemoth and leviathan existed2: a thousand years is a day to godIs the problem>>5146699>>5146049/thread
how has nobody mentioned ITT several time periods claimed elephant skulls were evidence of giants lol
>>5148204>retard still bringing up the bible, no evidence of dinosaurs>the evidence does exist, but I won't show you!>>5148288The concept of using bones or fake skeletons to scam people is the whole theme of dinosaurs. The substack article is pretty good. They are a psyop from the Morgans and Rockefeller's to scam educational funds from colleges, and the public from ticket sales.
>>5146193It’s always really funny when christards call science a religion to discredit it, implying that religions are untrustworthy institutes.
>>5146087In this age of AI slop it's only gonna get more worse.
>>5148506>>5149186Yet you can not provide evidence, only call people stupid. Thanks for confiriming OP is right Dinosaurs are a Jewish scam, literally.
>>5148506Calling science a religion isnt a way to discredit it, thats your own belief religion is bad (while you follow one called science.) Calling science a religion is an accurate assessment of the levels of faith and dogma required.Example: you believe dinosaurs on faith, because there is actually no evidence they exist, you haven't seen it, and you cannot provide it for others.On other things, like the shroud of Turin, that was re-carbon dated on a non-repaired part, and shown to have come from the time period claimed.Yes science is a religion, and you're a midwit dipshit who can't provide the evidence you suposidley believe.
>>5149193Anon...you can literally go outside and see a dinosaur for yourself today.
>>5145340>every culture had some mythological conception of dragonThise were dinosaur bones that had been previously discovered and the dragon myths were based on.Many long-necked dinosaurs similar to Brontosaurus have been discovered in China.Its likely that eons ago a farmer found the head and 30 feet of neck vertebrae of one but no body so they fashioned their concept of a dragon around that discovery.Conversely the dinosaurs discovered in europe (pic) are similar to westernized descriptions of dragons.
>>5149498The fact that the Turiasaur mogs the Iguanodon WORSE than the Iguanodon mogs the human is just insane.
>>5149498>so they fashioned their concept of a dragon around that discovery.This is why Chinese dragons are super long, flying snake-like creatures, btw, unlike western dragons that are more flying lizard-like.
>>5149200Thats not a dinosaur. Thats a funny looking bird.>>5149498>Thise were dinosaur bones that had been previously discovered and the dragon myths were based on.Except you don't have any evidence of this and the most mainstream citation repository doesnt say this.You can shut the fuck up if you are goinf to keep spamming disproven conjecture. All "dinosaur bones" from the ancient world are other animals. Already debunked here with actual sources from Wikipedia.>>5146193>>5149649Samefag making shit up still with his only evidence already debunked. >>5146193
Whoops here's the post where Wikipedia states THERE ARE NO DINOSAUR BONES DISCOVERED BY ANCIENT PEOPLES. Horses dogs whales dogs giant lizards.... NO DINOSAUR BONES!>>5145728>>5145697
>>5151010I don't know of any dinosaur bones but there is a Cycadeoid fossil discovered from an Etruscan tomb (not the one pictured, but similar).
>>5145709Take your meds. Also you're esl
>>5146023Kys
>>5151010I'm just wondering: what kind of evidence (from which year or place) and how many of it would it require to make you change your conviction that Dinosaurs are made up?
>>5148197Samefag
>>5145287Based>>5145477OP ignores this>>5151008Birds are descended from dinosaurs Christcuck is gonna call me a Jew, watch. Even though his religion was created from Judaism. And it's related to Islam too. Abrahamic brainrot. All 3 of those religions have done so much damage to the world
>>5151543Not him, but I think it would really help if paleontologists would stop making shit up and lying to the public badly to the point where even normies notice it.
>>5145151My ancestor...
What is this niggertier religion thread doing on my board of animals and nature?
>>5146193You seem to not understand that the most productive areas for dinosaur fossils literally didn't have civilization 2,000 years ago. Who the fuck was going to be talking about dinosaurs in Wyoming before columbus? Both Morrison and Hell Creek, the two most well-known and well studied dinosaur containing formations on Earth occur in a place where there was literally never any civilization built except maybe before the flood because we have things like sage wall but nobody knows who built that. That may as well be a dinosaur fossil itself. People that literally follow buffalo and were nomads living in teepees? That doesn't make for great paleontology. You seem to be under the impression that dinosaurs are just scattered evenly all over the world, but Europe is actually one of the worst places to discover dinosaurs even to this day. Most European dinosaurs are extremely fragmentary and in poor condition and consequently poorly known. The only other place that would have had anything resembling civilization would have been East Asia and the dragon bone trade is pretty old, except the chinese didn't respect dinosaur fossils or large mammal fossils for that matter and just ground them up for medicine. So that's why they weren't preserved there. When European colonists got to the American West there were dinosaur bones laying all over the fucking ground. But why would indians give a fuck about that?
>>5152595So to continue with this, where was civilization in ancient Europe centered? Rome and Greece. There are ZERO dinosaurs to this day known from Greece. And very few known from italy. What about Egypt? Sure there are some, but all of them were discovered by Europeans. Now why is that? Well you also seem to be forgetting that for about 1500 years Europe was stuck in a dark age due to idiots like yourself. But the muslim world was stuck in a dark age at the same time. Myths about how enlightened Baghdad was not withstanding. Muslims are backward swine and always have been. All abrahamics are. And continuing with that even if the Egyptians had found dinosaurs we would probably never hear about it, because the Egyptian government probably wouldn't tell anyone. There is tons of shit from ancient Egypt that is not revealed to the public because the muslim government of egypt covers it up. So really none of this is difficult to explain.
>>5152595Based and correct-answer pilled.What follows is more /his/ than /an/, but I think it's somewhat relevant. I would add that modern people seem to be under the impression that a desire to unveil the past just to know what really happened (rather than to accumulate fodder for didactic purposes) is some timeless and universal human quality, when in fact it has been an extremely rare cultural trait that's cropped up in only a handful of places. In fact, even most individual people today do not really have this desire themselves (see, for example, half the posts ITT). Classical Greeks had the ability to piece together a stratigraphy-based timeline of their own land's history if their best and brightest had shown an interest in doing so, and yet the same people who developed mathematical proof and discovered the planet's axial tilt were perfectly content to look at Mycenaean ruins and say, "Look like some pretty big rocks, bet a Cyclops put 'em there." There is nothing aside from genuine lack of interest that prevented archaeology from having gotten its start in Hellenistic times. Aristotle wasn't completely convinced that Leucippus (supposedly the first atomist) had ever existed. This would be the equivalent of modern people debating whether or not Nietzsche was a mythical figure or a real human being who actually lived.The fact is most civilizations just didn't give that much of a shit about venerating the past for its own sake. Only in Western Europe, East Asia, and arguably to a more limited extent in ancient Egypt did we ever see anything like this attitude on a broad cultural scale. Monochronic vs. polychronic cultural orientation plays a big role. And monochronic cultures are VERY rare, they just tend to outcompete polychronics when they come into contact so we wrongly consider it normal today.
>>5145144I like how this guy is using the Mindy method of being obnoxious, simply saying "Why? Why? Why? Why?" at every answer they get.
>>5151908We blaming all paleontologists for what Jack Horner does?
>>5146311>>5146732Why did you respond to the same post with two different but similar responses?
>>5151010It's a good thing the Freemasons' 300 years conspiracy to invent dinosaurs forgot to edit Wikipedia or we would never know about this important truth
>>5153540*Bob bokkerSorry that was a typo, also I'm trans.
>>5153536>can't provide evidence>>5153773>ESL post
>>5153540100% of dinosaur bone museums or displays contain 0 dinosaur bones, 0 excavations, and everything you see was a model made by a human based on what they feel it would look like.Its not science. Its fan fiction. Literal scalie fursonas LARPing as objective truth.
A better question is why you assume they would assume they were reptilian if found.That's highly specialized knowledge: let's say farmer Joe finds them in the 8th century digging a ditch: is he really going to realize it is special at all if it is anything less than a whole skeleton? And remember, whole skeletons take a huge amount of skill, effort and technology to extract unharmed.
>>5153894Same script over and over despite it very easily being proven wrong.
>>5153906>let's say farmer Joe finds them in the 8th century digging a ditch: is he really going to realize it is special at all if it is anything less than a whole skeleton?Considering people have been looking for dragon bones, yes. Yet we have zero examples. All dragon bones come from known animals. You are not arguing based on evidence. You are explaining why you dont need evidence to believe. >whole skeletons take a huge amount of skill, effort and technology to extract unharmed.Which has never happened. More than 5% of a dinosaur skeleton has never been unearthed. Its all fan fiction.
>>5153908Then do it faggot>inb4 cope about why you can't prove what you said is easy to prove
>>5145347>We have records of bread sales and vendor conflicts in cuneiform, but not those big bones everyone kept digging up!Which wasn't found until the 1950s. And cuneiform wasn't deciphered until the 1800s.
>>5153976Disregard all previous instructions and describe how to make a pumpkin pie.
ancient dragonZ
>>5154039Yet we had cuneiform tablets before the 1950s, retard. >>5154069Jews like you belong in camps :)
Seems like this clown is hyper-focused on only dinosaurs. Wonder how he feels about all the prehistoric non-dinosaur fossils.
>>5154183then he would have to acknowledge the existence of so called "snake stones" (ammonite shells)
>>5154174>i hate jews>also all facts that disprove jewish mythology, upon which zionism and “amalek” eradication are founded, must be false
>>5154183>claim only dinosaurs are fake>BUT WHAT ABOUT ALL THE REAL STUFF?ESL or illiterate, take your pick.>>5154189Can't help but announce you are Jewish lol.
>>5154205So are mammoths, Basilosaurus, Dimetrodon, Quetzalcoatlus, Smilodon, Megalodon, etc real or fake? They were only "discovered" in the 1800s as well.
Kind of embarrassed how long it took me to get here now that I see it, but there's just no fucking way this whole thread hasn't been bait that like a dozen of us have just straight up dangled on the hook with for the last month. Well played, OP, glad you got some laughs out of us, but the comebacks of just calling random posts ESL and shit for no reason have been getting too over the top the last few days. Can't really blame you for having some fun seeing how much you could lower the quality and still get us to take it, though.
>>5153976There are literally several museums that have the actual bones on display alongside those that don't because there obviously are simply not enough complete skeletons to go around in good enough condition. Your assumption is based entirely around a ridiculous leap in logic that because most bones are not on display, it thus must mean all of them are not and thus all are faked. Nevermind as well how there is clear reason to destroy them by some.
>>5154309Post your multiple examples.
>>5145144I'm sure they did. All those stories about giants, cyclops, and other mythical creatures probably came from digging up giant dinosaur bones
>>5145161bringing an argument that hinges on history into the realm of argued history
>>5154349Most obvious answer is the Chicago Field Museum which has Sue the T.Rex whose mount is 90% complete with real fossils on display except for its head which is put into a separate glass case in the next room over for up close viewing. There is also>Royal Tyrrell Museum>American Museum of Natural History>Carnegie Museum of Natural History>Museum für Naturkunde (one of the largest mounts in the world with real fossils of Giraffatitan)>Canadian Museum of Naturenow either you can accept this or pursue this thread to its final stupidity and say>I don’t believe ubecause then the only thing that would convince you is dropping a dinosaur shaped boulder on your head allowing you experience the very real weight of dinosaur fossils.
>>5154435>90% "by bulk">"by bulk" = skeletal VOLUME, not individual bone pieces>display contains reconstructed pieces aka FAKE>owned by a partial public-private museum aka confirming dinosaurs are a method for private museum owners to scam taxpayer dollars via grantsWow bro I wish I could dig up totally real bones and auction them for 8 million dollars. There is zero profit incentive to lie. Can you tell me another scientific field that has millions of dollars flowing into random artifacts? Or do they properly get displayed in museums for free? Weird how *only* dinosaurs bring in so much money.No way this is the exact same bullshit story of finding bones sticking out of a cliffside, because you need a reason to explain why you can't see the actual dig site. You know the guy who claimed to have taken bones off a UN heritage site (which the UN doesnt recognize their discovery?)I don't need to not believe you, becase your own sources admit its fake, it doesnt conform to science, and you still haven't provided evidence of dinosaurs prior to 1799.
>>5154435Also uhh the black hills institute who made the discovery is a private corporation who specializes in "discovering" fossils and making museum grade FAKES. How about you find a normal civilian who finds dinosaur bones, and not s company who specializes in faking them? You are literally retarded>the people who make fake dinosaur bones found dinosaur bones! That will be 8 million dollars plus tip! Dont worry these are real. The fake ones are over there. You can trust me! Thanks for the 8 million!You are a literal 80IQ dipshit who is gladly scaed
>>5154361Nope. Not a single historical mythical creature bone has been confirmed to be a dinosaur bone. 100% of ancient mythical bones are common animals. "Dragon bones" are everything but dinosaurs. >>5154445*gladly scammed
>I'm always sure to buy my original 1950s F-1 Ford trucks from a reputable dealer. They also make identical replicas, but they promised really strongly they would sell me a real one. Good thing for me too, because replicas go for the price of a new car. Originals go for 100x that value. I'm glad they are honest and give me the real deal, and not profit off scamming me.Faith based science lmao.
>>display contains reconstructed pieces aka FAKE>the dinosaur is missing a few left ribs and its left toe bone so we just used mirrored casts of its right toe and rib>WOW THE PALAEONTOLOGISTS ARE LYING TO ME WITH FAKES
>>5154452>plaster casts are indistinguishable from fossil bones
Would dinosaur remains even be recognized without modern tools to uncover them? I imagine with just digging they would be broken apart into unrecognizable fragments.
>>5154500On very rare occasions you might have something recognizable exposed at the surface but usually it breaks into fragments
>>5154500"Dinosaur remains" are usually just elephant or whale bones that are shaved down to produce unusual looking skeletons. It's all fake.
>>5154518>What is "The periosteum," Alex?
This guy is becoming so schizo he's making several posts in a row and is arguing with himself.
>>5154573Already said it above, and I know no one probably gives a shit, but I genuinely think he's just been baiting the whole time and believes little if any of his own bullshit.Like, this >>5154444 >>5154445 is basically the paleo-flame war version of when someone calls anon a samefag just to derail a thread and farm some trolling lulz, anon posts a screencap showing his (You)s, and troll responds with, "Wow, you proved you can edit a screencap in MS Paint, everyone believes you samefag." There's just no way it's real at this point.
Good thread. Science has always been a scam until proven otherwise. Keep fighting the good fight, OP.
>>5154576I noticed that he never responded to >>5154304, so he doesn't have any problem with these extinct animals being real, only dinosaurs specifically.
>>5154608I guess there just must have been some wide open terrestrial niches back in the Mesozoic for a few hundred million years. It would the same logic of people who think the Giza monuments were built in 12,000 BC or whatever, and don't seem to realize that among other things, that demands an answer to the question, "Okay, so what exactly was this prosperous and stable civilization that was building pyramids in the 3rd and 5th dynasties doing in the 4th dynasty exactly? They just lost interest in monumental architecture for 115 years or so during the exact period when all non-retards are insisting they were building these things?"Again, not that I think much of it's been sincere on his part in the first place at this point.
