Why haven't we domesticated deer?
Do we need to have this thread every couple of days now? Like I said last time, we have. They've been domesticated for millennia. What do you think reindeer are?
Why haven't we domesticated deer except for rendeer?
heh
Let's talk about deer.
>>5146764>>5146768The main reason is that people domesticated three other ruminants first (cattle, sheep, goats) and between those three there wasn't really a niche for raising most deer as well. Pretty much any food a deer can eat could also be eaten by those other ruminants. And most deer species are a pain to keep captive, due to how high they can jump; keeping them penned before cheap barbed wire would have been expensive. The one deer species that was properly domesticated (reindeer) is larger and easier to keep contained than most other deer, and do have a clear advantage in very cold environments over the cattle/sheep/goat trio, giving them a useful niche. Now that deer are being raised in captivity (viable since new tech like barbed & electric wire make keeping them penned cost effective, and markets have enough demand for non-standard meats that hunting wild game can't reliably supply) I expect them to be domesticated in a couple hundred years.
>>5146778Fun fact: reindeer cannot eat carrots because they lack top teeth. They can only eat soft grasses and leaves.
>>5146764We have with Reindeer>ok but why not other deerDeer were historically hard to contain as they can leap over tall fences. They're also susceptible to capture myopathy, where extreme stress can cause muscle damage and lead to death. So even if you manage to contain a deer it might die simply from the stress after being caught
is this the deer thread?https://youtube.com/shorts/u-gQWnSBip8
deer are cute i like looking at them :-D
>>5147351me too
I dunno, not meaty enough?
>>5147429dont talk about deer like food nigga! you gon make me mad!
>>5147430What else am I gonna think of them?
>>5147431That theyre cute curious, free spirited animals that will sometimes do weird and interesting things, while having big eyes and being cute
>>5146764Don't know, but I just saw three deer eating a bush across the street from me
>>5147589cool ive never seen deer irl even tho theyre my favourite animal
>>5146764I was under the impression that we have already. So, where does venison come from?
>>5146789That's not true thoAll deer species lack upper incisors. To eat tougher food they just move it to the back of their mouth and grind it with their molarshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK_GhwZB15c
I feel like deers need a bigger tail, look at this stubby
>>5147638whitetails have evolved oddly long tails, i dont think deer generally are supposed to have long tails tho, most dont
>>5147592What kind of a horrible concrete shithole do you live in?
>>5147642nta but could be Africa or Australia, they don't have them there
https://youtube.com/shorts/JTDhp2xJD9kbeautiful creatures
>>5146764Too many STDs
>>5146781>>5146768>>5147167Herd structure also works against them. It's not as tight as sheep, making the previously mentioned penning issue even more painful. Sheep are both easier to contain, and easier to manage when not in containment. You can breed a trait like not dying of stress while barely thinking about it, even being docile is easy enough, but fundamentally changing herd dynamics would be hard to even get started on.
>>5149036kill yourself sexualizing subhuman
>>5147627They cannot eat raw, whole carrots. Those carrots are floppy, meaning they've likely been cooked.
>>5149036based deerchad
>>5149036live yourself sexualizing übermensch
>>5149064It's floppy because it's a slice. The second carrot is clearly raw and it eats it just fine
Our Age of Deer threads is....collapsing...
>>5150710my loafy deer friends
>>5150710Mmmmmm deer cheeseburger....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdRCNM2k42o
>>5147431Look at them the same way that /k/ does
>>5150710Cuddle the deer loaf
>>5152715stop painting them as fucked up!!@ they just like da salt on da bone just like any of us!
https://youtube.com/shorts/uFt-Hw2nFZYwhy did she do that? deer experts answer
>>5152870my cats do this. it is a mystery
https://youtu.be/YM-8HiHl6AQ?si=RLlG54MV7YStn6VXÚltimamente un en wsp ah estado circulando un número de una persona que tiene de foto de perfil a un gto que el asegura aver d3svivido resulta que hay toda una comunidad de gente que hace este tipo de cosas con animales seguidores de una Vanessa "n" la verdadera asesina del animal es Cherry la cual anuncio en su comunidad que estaba descansando en paz sabiendo que alguien más está pagando por lo que ella hizo, este tipo de personas no pueden ser consideradas humanas y debemos hacer todo lo posible para llevarlas a la justicia. Espero entiendan l ña gravedad de esto y puedan ayudar, muchas gracias.
>>5152892are certain animal behaviours just meant to be a mystery for us?
All that Chronic Wasting Disease makes me terrified of deer, desu.
>>5152909Humans can't get it, and its all but confirmed that humans created it anyway. Fucked up my beautiful deer friends...
>>5152910W A S T E D
>>5152910>Humans can't get it
my deer friends...
>>5152895fucked up
they got deers in texas
>>5152800They eat meat and bone sometimes too, not just plants or salt. They're not obligate herbivores, they're facultative like many other herbivores and will eat meat or bone if they're short on nutrients.>insert webm of horse eating chicken
>>5155729no. they just want the salt. they are not like evil carnivores...
>>5155718WOULD that doe
>>5155763Kill yourself
>>5155842retard.
>>5146764because they're fuckin' retarded. i'm honestly shocked they haven't gone extinct by now
>>5156454Thats not nice and no they're not retarded, they just have an absentminded look about them because the light reflects off their eyes in a weird way that you rarely see the horizontal line that makes it seem like theres something there, not just black beady eyes.
>>5146764we already have horses, camels, and elephants to ride on. If you want to eat deer it's not really that much more convenient to keep them penned/herded than it is to just hunt them.
>>5155795me too
I wonder what those various obscure tiny deer species would be like as an indoor pet.
>>5157234What does this have to do with cute deer friends? You fucking retard.
>>5157235Prey Shit is objectively smaller, less smellier, and they can probably be trained just as much as Predator animals. NTA
>>5152910Two hunters died from prion disease variants and they hunted and ate meat of cwd infected deers
>>5157234brought it up out of nowhere awardhave another (You)
>>5146781I dont think there will ever be large scale farming and domeatication of deer.Like you said that niche is already filled and in most places theyre abundant.
>>5146764It's illegal where I live
>>5146766t. Santa
>>5157234based
Havent kept up with my deer friends recently as much as I should be doing
deer popularity...has declined...
>>5160574it's doever
I want to eradicate all ticks for our deer friends
>>5163359me too, flies as well, they really like bothering my deer friends in the summer, though i will say i havent seen too many bothering em this year... but that could also be because I havent been keeping up with deer enough this year :'(
>>5146764What criteria do they need to meet to be domesticated?The definition most commonly used is a species of animal bred over multiple generations by humans for a specific function/purpose, that also exhibits genetic changes as a result. Fallow deer meet all of these criteria. They are farmed for meat and pets, come in different color morphs, and are different from their wild populations. The only reason anybody who say they aren’t domesticated is because they don’t believe they should be be in non-zoo homes.
>>5155718>wonky unpolished amateur anthro art for small town companysovl
>>5165327fuck you domestication is evil kys
https://youtu.be/ysVEzSD8Dx4?si=JVCLzcdBbgBFExioThis shit makes me want to cry, both because somebody (interpreted charitably) cared enough about the disabled deer to keep them enclosed and fed, but also at the fact that they too have a bunch of disabilities and suffer just like us humans, pushing through it all. I don't appreciate deer friends enough, I need to be better :.)
>>5146764They've got to be difficult to fuck or something. Everyone talks about various reasons certain animals could or could not be domesticated but no one mentions how easy they are to fuck had to have played a big part.
oh cute a deeAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>5166980wait they wag their tails like dogs? wtf
>>5166983They want to be our pets REALLY REALLY BADLY
>>5166980We know you have them and she has come to collect. Please comply.
>>5166983Yeah. Some of the friendlier ones I feed do this too when they know you have corn and shit for them.
Heard ya'll like naph naph naphhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ1GCSIpWQk
>>5167053I JUST REALIZED THAT DEER CAM IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AGAINONLY A COUPLE WEEKS
>>5167238the snow deer cam is always so brutalthey're always being complete assholes to another
>>5167242its winter, they gotta eat, every deer for themselves...
They really don't offer anything in return for taking care of them. Their meat production is weak, they jump over normal fences so you would need extra fencing cost to keep them in compared to cattle. Meat quality is substandard. They waste too much energy growing and shedding horns all the time. Overall low iq animal. I have a couple herds on my farm and I verbally abused them any chance I get by telling them they are stupid and no one likes them in hopes they will leave forever... Fucking deer.
>>5167426why do people eat them thoguh
>>5167426>Overall low iq animal.Retard fuck you and kill yourself, you also prove yourself wrong, entire reason dogs and cows are easier to domesticate is because theyre dumber and less self determined. Deer are not dumb, they're just more free spirited.
>>5167430Deer hooves wrote this post... I'll give you some time to go grow some antlers and then shed them again like a real fucking brainlet before you retort.
