Why hasn't the "Dinomania" phenomenon of the 1990s—which began with *Jurassic Park* in 1993 and culminated with *Walking with Dinosaurs* in 1999—been replicated so far in the 21st century? Attempts were made with the toxic "All Yesterdays" movement in the early 2010s, and a high-quality series on par with *Walking with Dinosaurs* did materialize with *Prehistoric Planet* following the pandemic. There are more new discoveries than at any other time in history, yet a new wave of Dinomania has failed to emerge. What is preventing that feverish interest from taking hold among younger generations?
mooom featherschizo is starting shit again
>>5146921I don't get it. Anyway, I am a paleontologist, though more of an evolutionary biologist than a geologist, born in the late 80s. I lived through the full force of the 90s "Dinomania" phenomenon, which saw the "Dinosaur Renaissance" culminate with Jurassic Park, though there was so much more to it than that. I feel we reached the pinnacle in 1999 with WWD, only for that same year to be overtaken by the Yellow fever of Pokémon, which effectively buried every trace of the prehistoric world, relegating it to a niche interest. But ultimately, it is thanks to dinosaurs and that 90s cultural ethos that I am a scientist today. I am eternally grateful.
>>5146925Just be happy the general public doesn't care for your field. t. former immunobiological technician
well for young generations to get into dinosaurs we're going to need to make it very comfortable, at least profitable enough for a penthouse in miami, and it's gotta be sexy
Nobody older than 12 gives a shit about redditsaurs
>>5146933Pretty sure the problem is the opposite.
>>5146928I’d say that, unfortunately, "normies" and the LGBT community have been showing an interest in my profession in recent years, and they are destroying it with their reinterpretations and political agendas. I saw this, for example, at this year’s "Dinocon". They act like a hysterical mob.
>>5146933>>5146934I’d say that the latest attempt to spark "Dinomania", and I’m referring to "Prehistoric Planet", unfortunately didn’t work. And I don’t see how interest in dinosaurs could ever bounce back to the levels seen in the 90s.
>>5146920Because the dinosaur media we get today sucks dick. Movies are what gets the public interested in things and while the 90's had an actually good movie with Jurassic Park, the new installments are awful. The movies get money but they don't stay in the public's mind after they leave the movie theater
>>5146937I’m going to speak a bit more specifically about myself to criticize this takeover of the paleontological community by the LGBT and "woke" movements. As a paleontologist, I'm specialize in avian evolution; I was born in the late 80s and grew up alongside the "Dinomania" phenomenon and the burgeoning explosion of feathered dinosaur discoveries, spanning the time from that memorable year of 1996 up to when I really took notice in 2002 with the description of Microraptor. I matured alongside these new discoveries and the accumulation of knowledge, and I have watched the evolution of the community interested in paleontology. I am also concerned about how social media is being used to cheapen and, in this instance, distort the public image of dinosaurs. What do I mean? I notice a shift from a genuine cultural ethos, wanting to view them as what they truly are (animals rather than monsters), to the forcing of excessively speculative ideas following the disastrous 2012 book "All Yesterdays". There is even an attempt to force "woke" ideologies onto the subject, turning dinosaurs into tools serving the interests of those who have taken over paleontology, whether as a hobby or, for some, a profession. How did this happen so quickly? I don't know, as I have stayed away from all that for over 15 years, focusing solely on my profession. Yet, the transformation of the paleontological community, not just outside the professional sphere but within it as well, is beginning to bother me.
>>5146939The so-called "Dinocon" 2026, spearheaded by Darren Naish who emboldens these "woke culture" goblins, recently took place. During the event, Tim Haines, the creator of WWD, gave a talk expressing his desire to use AI to assist in creating a dinosaur documentary; he cited the example of an account called "paleorex" which openly uses AI to enhance and subsequently animate its artwork. The crowd publicly booed him. There was no respect shown, nor any attempt to reflect on the subject matter; they simply shut him down. This led me to hope that AI destroys the toxic community of paleoartists.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7hBwgPQQPIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeisAPfvzeEThe paleoartist community must be dismantled and AI will take care of that
>>5146941Just look at this.
>>5146920They went too hard on it in the 90s so now it’s seen as passé. Same happened in the 1910s. Give it 80 years or so and it’ll be back
>>5146920we have pokemon and shit like that now, nigga. how gives a shit about dead animals when you can make 3d monsters fight each other?
>>5146953To be honest, I don't think you're far off the true. I lived through the Pokémon phenomenon from its global inception in 1999, and what you're saying makes sense. Quite simply, the paleontology community couldn't compete, and still can't, with what Pokémon offers. I remember setting aside my own passion for dinosaurs and science back in 1999 and 2000. It wasn't until I entered my teens and broadened my interests around 2001 that I finally moved away from Pokémon; fortunately, my interest in the prehistoric world resurfaced once I was an adult.
Dinosaurs were never cool or popular. I remember all the autists in school that liked Jurassic Park were bullied hard.
because dinosaurs are fake and gay
>>5146920>>5146925It's just gotten kind of old, no real new info or dinos have come out recently. The 90s felt like a revitalizing of dinosaurs, like a new update... But we haven't had anything since.We need to discover cool new creatures.
You need a Ph.D to do any meaningful work in the field. Ph.Ds are expensive, you have severely limited job prospects (especially if you're a white male), and the jobs that are out there don't really pay enough to live on.Such shitty conditions mean that with this absolutely dogshit economy, very few people will go into the field, no matter how fascinating they find the subject. It's a goddamn shame, too, because understanding the past is far more valuable to mankind than "line go up" or "DEI" or yet another dating app.
>>5146928Maybe people are tired of letting their kids be indoctrinated by "scientists" or "doctors" or "teachers." Every day we stray further from G*d and let chemical companies fill our bodies with toxic vaccines instead of relying on raw foods and natural immunity like we were designed for.
>obviously AI slop thread gets this many repliesYou're all retarded
>>5147068AI usually sounds less robotic than OP
>>5147068good eye, a giveaway is the character I hightlighted here, which is not on a normal keyboard.
>>5147067Maybe you should stay on facebook
>>5146941is there footage of the tim haines talk? genuinely curious
>>5146960top 10 4chan lies.
>>5146941>>5146942>>5147180look I find AI sloppa abhorrent, but Tim Haines is just being reasonable here. Paleorex, despite being a soulless plagiarist, has made shorts that portray extinct animals which are undoubtedly more photorealistic and life-like than what modern CGI and animators can produce.Is it so wrong to look at this technology and see potential in it? Especially from the creator of WWD, which was itself quite avant-garde for its time?
>>5147202AI is taking all the jobs from mentally ill people that they used to require to pretend to be intelligent and high statusWithout a job as a CGI T rex animator karen is just an average mentally ill womanTherefore AI bad
>>5147180Apparently, no one recorded it, but the whole drama, especially on Bluesky, is more than confirmed.
>>5146925>>5146920Because it's a trend. Trends usually last a few years to a decade before petering out.
>>5147067The last person who said something like this to me in real life proceeded to light up a cigarette less than 5 minutes later.
>>5147243>Apparently, no one recorded ituh why? were cameras prohibited or something. you'd think tim haines talking publically at a dino convention would be prime "i better record this" material
>>5146935>"normies"just say normalfag
>>5147103I'm still pissed that AI has made people schizophrenic about using proper punctuation especially after years of using proper punctuation. It's not hard to press alt+0151.>>5147295>>5146920>Why hasn't the "Beatlemania" phenomenon of the 1960s— which began with *Please Please Me* in 1963 and culminated in *Let It Be* in 1969— been replicated so far in the 21st century?
Hey are you the same tardmotron who keeps making threads in /co/ asking why people don't still talk about thirty year old cartoons
>>5147067Start eating raw chicken for every meal
>>5146941>>5146942But that's completely correct, AI-slop is for retards who don't want to learn a skill or don't want to pay someone who has a skill. Kill yourself.
>>5147553>implying you aren't a retard
>>5147553true
zoomers don't care about anything that happened before they became conscious
>>5146920I've started encountering people irl who say dinosaurs never existed except ones that are dragons from the bible.
>>5146920Because dinos only attract the worst kind of schizos and autists. No one likes to be associated with that.
>>5146936I mean it might work if the paleo world weren't so interested in spreading disinformation these days. People know when they're being lied to and they don't like it. Prehistoric Planet and the slew of mockumentaries made after it very intentionally were skewed away from science and towards wild ass speculation, sometimes that was directly anti-scientific. That's not going to get anybody interested. Supposedly these were the most popular things ever made like everything else that the government makes in conjunction with pedowood. They lie. The truth is anybody who's actually interested in paleontology hated these things.
>>5147458But people do talk about 30-year-old cartoons.
>>5146939>As a paleontologist, I'm specialize in avian evolutionThis is literally the exact problem with paleontology these days. Every moron with access to the internet thinks that paleontology means ornithology now. It doesn't. Birds are not that fucking interesting. Let it go.
>>5147060There's tons of new info. The problem isn't that new information isn't being discovered. It's that it's being ignored while outright lies are being promoted in the public sphere. There's all kinds of information about new species, new information about diet, ecology, new paleobotany, invertebrates, etc. But reddit doesn't pay attention to any of that. All retards want to hear about is the latest ideas for their fursuit.
>>5148901who cares what reddit does or doesnt pay attention to
>>5148304So basically they're still saying they never existed but actually did exist under a different name. That's retarded.
>>5146921You’re like the little kid from the odyssey who screamed at Odysseus
>>5146920Kids not reading books anymore has to be a huge part of the problem, and I don't really see a way we're getting back to a voluntarily-literate population in our lifetimes. I was born in 1987, and when I was in elementary school, I'd save up my allowance for months to get sick-ass dinosaur books that told you all their stats, had cool art, and talked about how paleontologists figure shit out. Print edutainment on dinosaurs was actually stuff kids (boys, at least) genuinely valued about on the same level as a decent SNES game in our time. Like, you could actually bust out something like picrel when a friend came over and spend a good chunk of your day looking through it together having a fucking blast.
>>5147436>I'm still pissed that AI has made people schizophrenic about using proper punctuation especially after years of using proper punctuation. It's not hard to press alt+0151.You're the only person who understand me.
>>5147202>has made shorts that portray extinct animals which are undoubtedly more photorealistic and life-like than what modern CGI and animators can produce.Just because it's been uncommon for CGI and animators to reproduce it doesn't mean it's not possible.Beelzebufo in Prehistoric Planet season 2 was just as if not more convincing than any of the stuff Paleorex puts out. That's because the animators were given proper direction and reference to what frogs should move like. It's an issue of direction rather than ability.>Is it so wrong to look at this technology and see potential in it?The technology itself is an act of mass-plagiarism/theft and environmentally harmful to boot, so yes.>>5147436>It's not hard to press alt+0151To be fair it's harder to hold a key and press 4 others than it is to just press one key for a hyphen, especially when the average person's num pad is dusty as shit from disuse.
>>5150553>It's an issue of direction rather than ability.i agreebut perhaps AI generated content can be used as a reference to make sure directors and animators tweak their usual mistakes. Of animals either moving too deliberately, too fluidly, or much more banally of having surface materials not properly matching how real life looks when captured by a camera
