Argentina court recognizes two goldfish as sentient beings with rightshttps://www.cnn.com/2026/07/13/americas/argentina-goldfish-sentient-latam-intlOn the facade of a sushi restaurant in a chic Buenos Aires neighborhood, two goldfish in a glass display case would go largely unnoticed apart from the occasional child who would tap against the glass.One day, someone took a closer look at the tank, which was exposed to the sun and street noise. It would change the fate of the pair of small fish, named Fede and Magui, who were later recognized in an Argentine court as sentient beings that had rights.“Anyone passing by and stopping to look could see it wasn’t suitable for the fish,” said Matías Trufero, lawyer for the NGO Jaulas Vacías, an anti-speciesism sanctuary that houses more than 200 rescued animals.“It’s not illegal per se to keep a fish in a fish tank. However, it is illegal to keep them in conditions that cause mistreatment or cruelty. For example, inadequate space, insufficient food, and other acts punishable by law,” Trufero said about the legislation in Argentina.
>>5153085Good for those fish, I hope that ruling will be used for more animal rights cases in the future
>>5153094YES
>>5153085>country directly controlled by israel>slowly begins putting animals over (non ruling class) people leading up to de facto meat bans>underclass suffers degenerative decay from insufficient nutrition, enters permanent oppression, actually devolves because brain size can not be selected for without animal products to prompt its growth in the first placeThis is exactly how the cousins of jews and aryan kings (bramman) ruined india. Its the same bloodlines doing the same thing every time. Priests > animals > humans. The slippery slope is very real. Meat production will become financially retarded. Fewer and fewer people will be able to afford it. Eventually almost none “for the climate”. Guess who else does this when they take over? Nordics. Hitler was notoriously on the verge of sending non-vegans to concentration camps. In their original religion, man was created by sky-men as an herbivorous, slightly smarter river-monkey in order to dig irrigation ditches and harvest crops for the gods. A rebellious sky-man gave this monkey the blood of the gods, so he became smarter and ate meat. For this the gods wanted the new humans destroyed but the rebellious god saved us, and cast off his companions, giving man freedom, and urging us never to submit to the sky-men. The ruling bloodlines were chosen by the sky men to undo that rebel’s work. The more you learn about ancient cultures the more you’ll realize there’s more truth in this general story than you’d ever expectJust ask>Why do I have the skin and kidneys of a pig, in the body of a monkey, with a novel brain and remodeled core skeleton, that emerged faster than minor changes do in faster breeding more populous species?
>>5153094“Sentient beings with rights” is a complete inversion of morality from anthropocentric to servile, it places man on par with if not inferior to animals, and WILL be used against people>you are meaningless - why should we favor your numbers over the lushness of the forest? the child culls will begin. humanely.
>>5153102>“Sentient beings with rights” or “being capable of reasoning with rights” is a complete inversion of morality from aliencentric to servile, it places aliens on par with if not inferior to men and pigs, and WILL be used against aliens!>you are meaningless - why should we favor your numbers over the lushness of earth? the alien child culls will begin. humanely.
>>5153096>Why do I have the skin and kidneys of a pig, in the body of a monkey, with a novel brain and remodeled core skeleton, that emerged faster than minor changes do in faster breeding more populous species?
>>5153103>uh excuse me mr alien but i am ethically consistent with the simplest possible principles - all suffering is bad and all life is valuable. if you dont value my individual life you are an ontologically evil hypocAAAAAAAAGH*vaporized*>Jssg,thak hjeedmnasg’s (tl: Not all bodies have the same gravity)
>>5153103If a superior species came to earth and immediately declared themselves our equals, they would indeed be subject to the pains of equality. Would you like a world where you may not punish a dog and if it bites you, it gets 3 months and parole before total freedom?Perhaps it is better for you to accept hierarchy as facy, and that if you do not like a hierarchy, you must fight to change it. Your opponent isn’t even particularly superior here. They can’t do much besides indirectly manipulate a few people.
>>5153103>vegan schizo is a palirat victimhood fagNot pictured in your meme:The mortars fired at civilians for decadesThe child soldiersThe dual use of civilian installations as military installationsThe arab colonization of palestine specifically to pre-empt jewish return and drive out christians>the weaker colonizer lost and now they cant throw gays off buildings in that specific region. we have truly lost a beautiful and unique culture that curiously had the same names, language, faith, food, music, and morals as jordan and egypt.
>>5153108>>5153107>>5153106Animal rights are a logical extension of human rightsThe hypocrisy / speciesism is when you treat a trait equalized animal significantly worse then a trait equalized human.For example,Giving lots of rights to a orphaned human being withLissencephaly who will live less long, be less intelligent, be less conscious, be less capable of experiencing suffering and wellbeing, etc then a average healthy young adult pig. If you believe the human withLissencephaly should receive millions in medical care, it should be illegal to do painful medical experiments on them to make new medications or cosmetics, it should be illegal to breed them for meat, etc but you believe the average healthy young adult pig should have no rights or protections from things likepainful medical experiments on them to make new medications or cosmetics, breeding them for meat, etc then you are a speciesist. You are discriminating solely on the basis of species and nothing else. Not intelligence or potential for intelligence in the case of a healthy human baby. Solely speciesBut this leads to reductio ad absurdums.It is extremely similar to feminists who support anti FGM laws while not supporting banning MGM, if you look at penal codes banning MGM they are Sexist as they discriminate solely based on genitalia type.It also leads to reductios like I mentioned in my original post, if you discriminate solely on the basis of being “human” it requires you to define what a human is and can lead to absurdities like believing two non humans gave birth to a human and their parents deserve zero rights while their child should have the same rights as you and I.
>>5153096>Just ask>>Why do I have the skin and kidneys of a pig, in the body of a monkey, with a novel brain and remodeled core skeleton, that emerged faster than minor changes do in faster breeding more populous species?I'd rather ask how long ago you were diagnosed with schizotypal disorder, you absolute nutter.
>>5153110>>5153108>>5153107>>5153106Some will say “but I only believe in “human” rights, and chickens are not ”human””.To this I have a few responsesDefine human, for example thousands of years ago did two “non humans” give birth to a “human”? do you believe that “human” should have rights but not his or her parents? why? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wMxs0Q1TfFo [Open] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sqFbQgVrg7s [Open]If on another planet in another galaxy there was a different species of beings who looked and acted almost exactly like earth humans but they had very different DNA then earth humans and were a different species unable to produce viable offspring with earth humans would you say they deserve no rights? What if they were also unable to reason/ unintelligent and unable to breed with earthly humans do to different dna but otherwise just like earthly humans in all other ways such as appearance?what is your response to name the trait? https://vnarek.github.io/name-the-traithttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrtziO8Ffc4 [Open]
>>5153106>uh excuse me mr alien but i am ethically consistent with the simplest possible principles - all suffering is bad and all life is valuable. if you dont value my individual life you are an ontologically evil hypocAAAAAAAAGH*vaporized*>Jssg,thak hjeedmnasg’s (tl: Not all bodies have the same gravity)I believe in intrinsic goods besides just pleasure like relationships >>5153107>Would you like a world where you may not punish a dog and if it bites you, it gets 3 months and parole before total freedom?No the vegan world is a world where the dog is treated the same as a trait equalized human so a human being who is severely mentally ill. They would be involuntarily hospitalized until they were deemed no longer a danger to themselves or others so this could be the rest of their life
>>5153096>>5153102>slowly begins putting animals over (non ruling class) people>it places man on par with if not inferior to animals, and WILL be used against people The point is to change the respect we give animals to equal (or nearly equal) the respect we give humans, not the other way around. Whatever dictatorship your fantasizing about would have degraded human rights with or without the excuse of uplifting other animals rights.
>>51531111: Human evolution was highly improbable and involved radical changes in a short period of time, including two massive and rapid leaps in development, considering hominids low and slow fertility rate… coincidentally granting primates several anomalous traits basically lifted directly from distant genera2: What we call religion is identical to corrupted history mixed with law and myth. There is no reason to assume our ancestors did not actually know they were artificial creations who dealt with a more advanced species. All of them said so. >>5153112Not all bodies have the same gravity. A fish can not have the same status as a human.A cow can not have the same status as a fish. A dog can not have the same status as a cow. A “human” from another planet could have the same status as a human. But why would they want it, if they could have higher status?The most concerning aspect of the mass devolution built into veganism is that the future of your species does not get a l choice. It would be a global dalit conversion event. A society that eats more meat is taller, stronger, and smarter on average. Some people can take it too far and harm their health (typically requiring processed plants to do so, or a 100% meat diet) but overall it is a massive boon. If veganism were enforced the bottom 95% would rapidly regress to a weaker, smaller brained state from nutrition alone and begin to devolve like fish becoming eyeless in a dark cave. The actual moral position is that humans need to shift away from factory farms primarily because of the risk they pose to us and begin producing artificial but actual meat to fill the gap. Veganism is a devolution cult that puts man back in the biosphere… and specifies his replacements. Ruling men and the gods they serve. The natural consequences of a meatless society are disturbingly similar to a form of conquest.
>>5153116Equality means inferiority is on the table. Equality means the answer to>should we kill 600 people to save an entire biosphere?>should we forcibly lower the level of available tech to protect countless animals?>should people eat meat at all?No longer have immediate anthropocentric answers. It IS moral inversion. A “sentient being” is not the same to you because you constructed a religion around shouting>SENTIENCE REASON SENTIENCE LOGICLike a bad parody of a vulcanThat so called sentient being is a fucking goldfish
>>5153117I see no evidence for this. There’s examples of adults who have been vegan their entire life from a vegan pregnancy who are healthy strong and intelligent.Veganism is not expensive it is cheaper even when including supplements
>>5153115>trait equalizedIf you had to save a friendly dog or a mentally ill human, simply put you’re making the right choice or going on trial for manslaughter at the least. Ethical vegans = moral inversion = misanthropic cult that pursues human devolution or near extinctionYour ethics have no actual basis. You just feel bad about a lesser form of life and ironically want to hurt everyone over it.
>>5153119Equality means inferiority is on the table.Equality means the answer to>should we torture 600 women to death with medical experimentation to find a cure to male balding?No longer have immediate humanmalepocentric answers.It IS moral inversion. Women like non human animals can not enforce their own rights.
>>5153122>If you had to save a friendly dog or a mentally ill human, simply put you’re making the right choice or going on trial for manslaughter at the least.If the mentally ill human is not your child, patient etc you have no legal duty to intervene and save them. People walk past drowning children and let them die every time they spend 5000 dollars on a gaming PC instead of donating it to against malaria foundation
>>5153120There are UPPER CLASS adults who only suffer minor, but still notable deficits because they had ample free time, liquid capital, and a de-facto education in nutritional science to cope as best they could. resources including time are scarce. Most people just stop being vegan because they feel worse or their children aren’t growing. India isnt even fully vegan and meat restriction alone is why their poor regions are below even african tribes in IQ. Veganism is a mass devolution cult. When people are put on par with animals they are also put below animals and made into animals, and absolute natural power is given to those who put them there.
>>5153123This false equivalence isnt even worth a reply. You’re a misanthropic SACK OF SHIT FAGGOT and you are INCAPABLE of having functional ethics. You cant comprehend anthropocentrism. You hate humans. That is your entire belief system. You hate humans. You think their prosperity is worth less than a fish.You see humans as animals and make absurd comparisons like this constantly. >>5153125Here’s ANOTHER post clearly demonstrating that you are a SACK OF SHIT FAGGOT. An ethical vegan is ontologically evil.
>>5153129Do you hate the non human parents who gave birth to a human? But you don’t hate their child?
>>5153117Yawn. If I wanted to sift through schizobabble, I'd talk to a raving vagrant at the port authority bus terminal. One of them said to me once that he can see that I was a beatsmaster (not beastmaster; beats) and that the sound of the drum is life and that's why hearts thump and that I am connected to the beating heart and that I am the eternal presence at which point I interjected asking if I look like I'm covered in wrapping paper and topped with a bow.
>>5153129Speciesism and sexism are both ingroup preference
>>5153125>not donating your money to a shady telescope philantropy scam is the same as watching someone drownIts more like sleeping knowing that the colossal retard who everyone has saved from drowning at least once is jumping off a pier again, and his entire village simply refuses to help no matter how many times we teach them. And every time we save this man, he spends his time on land having as many children as possible and telling them they can walk on water as long as they choose a sufficient deep spot with rip currents. In this case it really is for the best if we leave them alone. In fact, our “help” magnifies the number of future deaths from starvation and disease. All humans are greater than animals, but there is hierarchy within a species as well. Why do we waste our time magnifying the suffering of people who don’t help themselves? We’re turning into a natural force that selects for the very stupidity we’re trying to save them from.
>>5153085crusading for animal rights is unironically nazi-coded. do you know who was one of the first major proponents of animal rights in modern history? do you know that many of the laws he enacted are STILL in effect in some iteration to this day? fucking nazi scum.
>>5153134Over the past two decades, the malaria mortality rate in sub-Saharan Africa has dropped by over 50% per capita, declining from over 140 deaths per 100,000 people at risk in 2000 to approximately 52.4 in 2023.
>>5153130How can you go anywhere if you first have to travel half the distance?>>5153132Unorthodox approaches to lost history isn’t schizophrenia. You might as well go screech at any religious person. They don’t even believe those old stories are mangled and corrupted. They believe every word is true, rather than hinting at something that once was, or an alteration from 600AD. It is still an actual fact that humanity’s rate of evolution was unprecedented and most similar to selective breeding and genetic engineering. We are somehow the only ape with the kidneys and skin that are almost exactly like another genus’ and are typically gradually evolved by species that spend tens of millions of years living in and around saltwater. We also have insane iodine requirements for an ape. You can believe whatever you want based on this. Besides the savannah ape hypothesis. >>5153133Eating and walking both change the state of the world. Sufficiently abstracted values cease to be real. I know specificity scares you and you want a single sentence theory of everything without having to answer why-be-good without a thought terminating clichè. But not everything is the same. The only simple governing rule of the universe is that nothing happens twice in exactly the same way.
>>5153117>If veganism were enforced the bottom 95% would rapidly regress to a weaker, smaller brained state from nutrition alone and begin to devolve like fish becoming eyeless in a dark cave.Do you have evidence that being vegan is this bad for you?
>>5153136Now they’re starving and raping instead. Sub saharan africa was significantly more peaceful and less overpopulated before western intervention created the conditions for malthusian collapse. Not only that… fewer people died from malaria.
>>5153138Yes but every time some rich do nothing rattles off his supplement routine and reminds everyone The Science(tm) “proved” a health obsessed rich man is healthier than one eating mcdonalds every day (the average), totally missing (and inadvertently proving) my point that vegans are retarded. It is genuinely not worth my time to do it for the nth time.
>>5153137>she doesn't know the difference between schizophrenia and being schizotypalOh, so you're undiagnosed. That makes sense. I'll you a quarter next time I see you yelling about the letter J in front of the Aldi.
>>51531392004 vs. 2024 Per Capita Malnutrition Death Rates (Africa / Sub-Saharan Africa)2004: 0.00042 per capita (~42 deaths per 100,000 people)2024: 0.00020 per capita (~20 deaths per 100,000 people)https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/malnutrition-death-rateshttps://vizhub.healthdata.org/gbd-results/
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>>5153142>Stop having beliefs that the experts didnt approve! That’s SCHIZO!There is more proof for humans being engineered or selectively bred by another conscious species than there is for any theory in cosmology or anything we assume about early literate societies. Do you have an alternative theory for a monkey developing 1:1 traits with porcines and radically remodeling its brain and body faster than a rodent has ever evolved to be marginally larger and more carnivorous? Besides the history channel teling you we descend from lucy and evolved to peer over grass?There is also no actual evidence human evolution followed the progression of species we assume. They fit the narrative, but they need not be our direct ancestors and could be offshoots of undiscovered creatures that actually are our ancestors. The primary driving force in modern theories of human evolution is actually the psychological need to contradict tradition and also paint africans as, for one reason or another (to justify slavery or bestow special respect), an ancestral state.
>>5153144Africa is overestimating their population. Per capita metrics are useless. The scenery when you go there is obvious. This information is hard to demonstrate with an “expert” source and my preferred links no longer show up on google. https://www.reddit.com/r/Africa/comments/as4jmy/the_case_of_the_25_million_missing_amharas_in/I have actually been to ghana, nigeria, south africa, and sudan. Something of note, is that africans fill out census forms to the maximum. A household of three fills out paperwork for nine people if there is room on the form for nine people. When they do this, they expect their region to receive more aid. When I went to ghana the immediately obvious rate of suffering was as much as one in two. We should just leave them alone or eradicate malaria mosquitoes and THEN leave them alone. They need to learn to walk before we give them climbing lessons.
>>5153148>When I went to ghana the immediately obvious rate of suffering was as much as one in two. We should just leave them alone or eradicate malaria mosquitoes and THEN leave them alone.That is what against malaria foundation does. All they do is develop, distribute, instruct and monitor insecticide treated mosquito bed nets that kill mosquitoes when they land on them
>>5153141>I have evidence but you won't believe it. It is genuinely not worth my time And spewing baseless exaggerations is worth your time?
>>5153141Iodine supplementation costs pennies per person per year. B12 is also extremely cheap. Vitamin D is the most expensive but is still less than a few dozen dollars per person per year.What expensive supplements or nutrients are you referring to? You can get almost all micronutrients you need from potatoes
>>5153085>people in here insisting fish aren’t sentientThey hire fucking lawyers these days. And win cases!
>>5153156>feminists like abortion>feminists want to believe fetuses can't suffer/be conscious at least not until very late in pregnancy>if fish can't suffer/aren't conscious then fetuses can't suffer/be conscious (complex neurological similarities discussed in video below)>Feminists argue in bad faith fish almost certainly can't sufferhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NhCxCLZXYtAhttps://defendingfeminism.substack.com/p/do-fish-and-shrimp-suffer-agonizing
>>5153157Wow tough crowd
>>5153152There’s veganism that simply prevents death, and then there’s the physically and mentally stunted people your ilk produce and always have that you can’t contend with at scale.The proof is in your fruits. Any society where less meat is eaten is a shorter and dumber society on average, much like there are societies that objectively eat too much meat for their physiology. Animals are worth less than human well being. I choose meat over your “principles” based on nothing. Countless people CANT maintain a vegan diet and even you do nothing western cattle are a missed truck away from having to crack and eat a fucking egg. Your answer to why be good is “to be as rational as possible in case an alien that has such values calls me arbitrary or a hypocrite”My answer is “in support of human prosperity, with in-group priorities that expand as they can”. >>5153149What they do is waste time on spot solutions africans cant maintain on their own. We have only two options. Leave and let them return to the state we found them in via mass death, admitting that we are powerless (which would be a lie - we have DDT), or COMPLETELY eradicate all mosquitoes capable of carrying malaria and supplant them with those that can not. the ecosystem still has sufficient biodiversity and breadth to adapt. this won’t always be the case. the clock is ticking. and having seen your holy (literally perforated) nets in ineffective use, i can only surmise that you are a misanthrope building a utopia of african-unmodified ecosystem coexistence atop a growing mountain of dead bodies. And you will not succeed. You’re effectively killing africans to minimize the harm done to a few birds and flowers.
>>5153161>The proof is in your fruits. Any society where less meat is eaten is a shorter and dumber society on average, much like there are societies that objectively eat too much meat for their physiology.Any example I give like vegan seventh day Adventists you will just say they are rich. So it’s non falsifiable Poor vegans in first world countries exist and I see no evidence that they are less healthy than poor meat eating humans from first world countries
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It’s well known among critical thinkers that stats that look good for the meat averse are poisoned by their upper class nature and aspirations. Even then they harm their young. https://www.patientcareonline.com/view/high-iq-children-vegetarians-and-vegansEven meat restriction degrades society long term. Asian countries are a great example. Diet creates biological inequality and ossifies class.
>>5153161>the ecosystem still has sufficient biodiversity and breadth to adapt. this won’t always be the case. the clock is ticking. and having seen your holy (literally perforated) nets in ineffective use, i can only surmise that you are a misanthrope building a utopia of african-unmodified ecosystem coexistence atop a growing mountain of dead bodies.If it takes a few years for the holes to develop then they were fully protected for those first few years if they were used correctly and they were effective seeing as each net costs only a few dollars to make and distribute. Also a few holes doesnt mean it’s completely ineffective as mosquitoes will still land on the non hole parts and die from the insecticide
>>5153163Yes, they’re rich and devote their excess capital to their performative moral diet (at least unlike you they admit its religious), and yes, humans are better off eating meatAnd yes, being vegan or vegetarian for “objective” ethical reasons is ontologically evil. You must necessarily at some point harm or kill people for the sake of inferior lifeforms. And when you ask why this is wrong or how preferring human to cow is different from preferring man to woman, you prove me right.
>>5153165This study shows smarter people are more likely to become vegetarian.
>>5153167>And yes, being vegan or vegetarian for “objective” ethical reasons is ontologically evil. You must necessarily at some point harm or kill people for the sake of inferior lifeforms. And when you ask why this is wrong or how preferring human to cow is different from preferring man to woman, you prove me right.That is circular logic
>>5153166>uhm the niggers are doing it wrongThey are 2000 years behind in fucking everything. They are blameless here. They do not have the advanced knowledge, industry, habits, genetics or epigenetics to effectively maintain our technology. It’s like giving nuclear reactors to poor slavs. You kill all of the mosquitoes if you want to save their lives, or you admit you value untouched african nature over prosperous african people. This is a true dichotomy. There are no half measures in saving a human life. You save them, or you let them die. >well, you might be dying, but i saved some people and most importantly no bird species went extinct because of my actionsAnd you wonder why they say wypipo be demons
>>5153168Smarter people are more likely to be upper class, which means they are more insulated from reality and can develop maladaptive beliefs while lower classes worker tirelessly to create the conditions that support their rulers lifestyles. Smarter people are also more likely to become drug addicts or dedicate their life to absolutely nothing useful. >>5153169Logic is subservient to fact. It can become circular, fallacious, or nonexistent before ground truth. At that point, it is no longer needed. We do not have to LOGICALLY PROVE that human prosperity is worth more than fucking cattle. You accept this or you are bad for everyone else. Does holy logic trump human life?No. Logic is a false god. Logic was made for man, not man for logic.
>>5153168>people who do not have to work as hard for a living and depend on exploiting countless others to maintain a life of ease are more likely to believe animals can be worth as much or more than people:o
>>5153170The Against Malaria Foundation (AMF) conducts rigorous, unannounced Post-Distribution Monitoring (PDM) surveys at 6-month intervals for up to 30 months after every major net distribution. Their comprehensive monitoring data across millions of households consistently demonstrates that the overwhelming majority of distributed nets are hung and used correctly to protect families from malaria.Data and country-by-country breakdown reports are available on the Against Malaria Foundation Net Monitoring Page. https://blog.givewell.org/2015/02/05/putting-the-problem-of-bed-nets-used-for-fishing-in-perspective/"We have reasonably high confidence that most people properly use the nets funded by AMF, because AMF requires distribution partners to conduct follow-up surveys on net use. These surveys show that 80% to 90% of households have nets hung up 6 months after distributions..."https://www.givewell.org/charities/amf/december-2022-version#:~:text=Our%20best%20guess%20is%20that%20LLINs%20last%2C,sources%20in%20the%20absence%20of%20AMF's%20work."Data collected by AMF during post-distribution monitoring that includes a tally of AMF nets and non-AMF nets found during monitoring. The proportion of AMF nets found in households is often above 95% and is above 85% in all the data we have reviewed."
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>>5153173“We saved some people for a while”You sacrificed them later at the altar of untouched natureThese per capita graphs>>5153146Are worthless because the population that more than doubled over 30 years did not actually more than doubleAfrica is not, in fact, home to 1.5 billion. Censuses vary by 18% and more. They are likely .5 billion over. Why has no aerial human headcount been performed?1: fewer people = less aid per the law2: many foundations would suddenly see they didnt reduce the death rateKill all of the mosquitoes. Any other choice is murder. If you can provide ecologically respectful nets you can spray DDT. Like we did to ACTUALLY eradicate malaria here where its a bit harder to lie about it!
>>5153175>>5153174>when people are polled, they give answers they believe are less offensive to others:o
>>5153179Many ballot referendums on animal welfare have been done and voting is ANONYMOUS. They can vote as offensively or selfishly as they want without being judged by anyone else People vote for slightly more expensive animal products so they can reduce farm animal suffering.
>>5153184These are the same neurotic bastards whose entire agricultural system depends on abusing foreigners for ultra cheap, ultra remote labor. They can vote how they feel good about voting but I know them by their fruits.
>>5153190It’s not clear to me how those farm workers would be better off if people boycotted avocados and cilantro
>>5153192 farming of some sort should be mandatory for landownersMexican workers can always support their own starving population before coming here to be abused for cheap luxuries…BUTThe US government arms the cartels to harvest them as human cattle under the guise of empathy and saviourshipIm sure the alleged bad feelings of a chicken are the issue tho im sureNo, its the idea that a human can be worth as much or less than an animalIts youAnd the well to dos who become vegan/vegetarian to exemplify moral inversion
>>5153195I limit myself to about 300 dollars a month for food and I only spend 10-15 dollars a month on supplements. I can not afford much of many of those labor intensive crops, potatoes are probably the most expensive one i consume the most
>>5153147Schizotypal response (that nobody actually read).
>>5153197I grow my own crops except for wheat, which I source domestically from trustworthy farmers.
>>5153199>you are BAD>no one likes you!Okay, so you dont have any more proof for the institutional narrative of human evolution than there is for humans being artificial, and just fear and hate people who don’t get their approved equally unsupported ideas from the smithsonian. You can’t even defend it with your own reasoning skills. Lol. Is “schizotypal” the new “slow progressive schizophrenia” for you?>inb4 you get confused and lash out because you’re historically illiterate
>>5153147>Do you have an alternative theory for a monkey developing 1:1 traits with porcines and radically remodeling its brain and body faster than a rodent has ever evolved to be marginally larger and more carnivorous? Besides the history channel teling you we descend from lucy and evolved to peer over grass?NtaI don’t think it matters much today and I have not looked into it much but I think there’s debate about if it was eating meat or cooking food over fire that made humans so smart
>>5153205That sounds lamarckian to me. An animal doesnt become smart because more nutrients are available. Mutations for a larger brain can be selected for if the diet can support them. Its possible given the timespan, radical changes, and unrelated adaptations (marine mammal/porcine kidneys, iodine dependence) that humans did not gain these mutations naturally, and our oldest civilized ancestors recorded this. Or we come from an undiscovered coastal ape lineage that never fossilized. There’s that.
>>5153202Schizotypal is as schizotypal does, my schizotypal skelly.
>>5153105is that ai? who drew all of that
>>5153208>people who recognizing prevailing “scientific” narratives as poorly supported and ideologically driven are… le crazy!Yes and only a madman would deny communism’s superiority and truth, comrade. Dissidents must receive the compassionate psychiatric care they need. /s
>>5153209regardless its pseudoscientific and has a bit of propaganda in it
>>5153214>t. schizotypal
>>5153223>historically illiterate, doesn’t get the jokejust wait until you find yourself supporting lysenkoism 2.0 (you probably already do)
>>5153231>my disorder has a first name, it's s-c-h-i-z-o>my disorder has a second name, it's t-y-p-a-l
>>5153096>skin of a pigYou don’t>kidneys of a pigYou don’t>body of a monkeyYou’re a derived monkey>with a novel brainNot a thing>remodeled core skeletonYou don’t>emerged faster than minor changes do in faster breeding more populous speciesIt didn’t
>>5153235>reee trust the science! There isn’t any actual evidence humans evolved at all. Just vaguely similar but completely unrelated ape fossils. Then bam, humans. >>5153310He’s right. Humans are actually way more derived/altered than they should be for less than 6 million years of evolution between us and a berry picking lean gorilla we likely didn’t descend from. Either we come from an undiscovered lineage, are the luckiest large primate ever, or we were made. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16263222/We have a lot more extremely derived traits than pig kidneys and blubber. Most point to an extremely long aquatic stage but the short time span does not make sense. Scientists are just obsessed with proving that everyone evolved from savannah africans so everything they discover is forced into that narrative, but it’s an increasingly unlikely explanation. It may be time to accept this simple fact: We have never discovered a non-human human ancestor. Only evidence of non-human bipedal apes that lived at the same time as an undiscovered human ancestor. If an ape species were entirely coastal we would literally never find a fossil. They are all still underwater.
>>5153320>schizotypal lady shits herself in ineffectual rage
>>5153320This. Evolutionism is a sham. The multiple origin hypothesis and mediterranean origin hypothesis were rejected without data (despite supporting evidence) solely because it would have meant europeans and subsaharan and west africans were not son and father.
>>5153370No models were rejected "without data", retard. In real science, ideas are tossed when they fail to match new evidence. Key fucking word there, Corky: evidence. Your retarded alternative models mentioned weren't ignored; they were thoroughly tested but were destroyed by better data.Your "multi origin" model specifically was actively debated for decades. That reality spits in the face of your implication that it was rejected out of hand. Furthermore, genetic sequencing is so advanced today that data show that human genetic diversity is incredibly low compared to other primates, and that this diversity decreases the farther a population is from Africa. This strongly implies that Africa is the cradle of humanity and directly contradicts the multiple origin model.It's like carrots. Look, my grandma is central Asian. She's from near where carrots originated from. There are varieties of carrots around there that westerners have never heard of or seen and they're just everyday things to locals. Also corn and potatoes in South America or broccoli in the Mediterranean, where I grew up. The same is true of those. Look at how many varieties of broccoli Italy has compared to other countries. Needle leaf "wild" broccoli, spigariello, is wholly unknown outside of the boot. Several other varieties, too. Meanwhile, Alaska gets "normal" broccoli and that's it because it's farther away from where broccoli originated in Italy. That shit predates the Etruscans who themselves predate the Greeks who themselves predate the Romans. That's how ancient and well established broccoli is in Italy and why there are so many more varieties there than anywhere else on earth. Because that's how genetic diversity and origin works. You fucking idiot. >>5153366She's not schizo-anything. She's just retarded.
>>5153372The multiple origin hypothesis was rejected by the same non-scientists that say race isn’t real and abbos are AMHs? and is totally unable to explain recently discovered 430k year old tools found in the med?The more likely truth is modern humans evolved further north, as a lost coastal species, after leaving africa, and then returned to africa as a part of their later dispersal with significant interbreeding with neanderthals, denisovans, and the african ghost population that makes up 10% of the african genome. Weak multiregionality hidden by extensive backcrossing is extremely likely. Race is a biological and genetic reality. Rejection of this hypothesis depends entirely on rejecting race on political grounds>but we can interbreed and are being forced to live together! race isnt real we arent different enough because i redefined species more broadly for this case!>also, my mixed race children cant find tissue donors and have autoimmune diseases and hernias, and disease risk correlates strongly with race>-politicized scienceWesterners are genuinely terrified of admitting that race is real because as inherent white/east asian supremacists, it would deny their status as the peak of the african lineage. With the reality of race and weak MR, we have to admit that we aren’t the peak, we’re a specialized offshoot that adapted to europe, there isn’t a racial hierarchy where everyone is just a temporarily embarrassed liberal white person deep down inside, and our values are not universal to mankind. They evolved for europe. The very notion of positive race realism (same potential, different natures) completely destroys the justification for the current world order where liberal white countries spend billions forcing their ideals and morals on other races… while acting clueless when the only parts of the developing world that actually develop are the parts they barely/don’t fuck with.
>>5153372whats with retarded posters here and calling everyone she? the cat fanatic CO spammer did the same thingis it how google translate handles your native language or what? is it an insult in german? you sound german
>>5153085>>5153094BAN SUSHI! FOR THE FISHIES!!!
>>5153231Epigenetics is real. Lysenko was actually right.
