Like how can we be able to live in propper peace with animals and the natural world? How can we build a future where conservation and human life can go together in harmony? How can we restore and maintain the natural balance of the world?
>>5154369Maybe future settlers on a distant frontier planet, but for Earth its basically joever if it remains on its current trajectory.
>>5154369Too late. Only would have worked if, instead of feeding indians, bangladeshis, africans and other trash and letting them multiply into billions, we wiped them out instead. The place will be a barren rubbish mountain hellscape before long
Population control. Over 8 billion people is a ridiculous amount of biomass. All that needs to be catered to. Sure we can build upwards or be inventive with modernized farming but how well nature does is always balanced out with how much humanity uses it. Fortunately, people are planting forests and digging lakes. But we care too much about our survival to keep nature stable. Dispose the worst part of humanity first.
>>5154369i wish miyazaki did more of these morally ambiguous teen movies rather than children storiesyou really cant right now, because theres too much emphasis on the arbitrary value of human life which is the correct response for a species, valuing itself and its own survival above all else. because of how humans function, they dont have a natural kill switch like other animals anymore, most mammals only live like 20 years at most before massive organ failure or inability to eat, while humans doesnt happen until after 40, and even then progression of science and society keeps putting that off and sets it to like 80+ now. so unless youre willing to kill boomers and reduce the levels of technology in the world to wood fires, or invent a perpetual motion machine, its never really going to happen.
>>5154369Matrix style AI enslavement. Either allow/give the choice to/force everyone living below a certain standard to live their life in a utopian AI where their mind is hooked up to a simulation that gives them a life free from all humanly suffering and interconnected to the rest of the plugged in humans and in return the people living in real earth get to utilize their biology for energy, organs, or whatever may be of use to the people still living in reality.
>>5154369Nope, a species only gets to human levels of evolution by destroying everything around it
>>5154385This is probably someone's fetish.
>>5154369We replace the shitty parts with ones we can live with. This is inevitable. It has to happen or your people suffer and die like thirdies. >>5154380Most of the overpopulation is not here. Europe and the US, excluding the recent migrant flood, are not overpopulated, and that’s relatively few people to send back (fuck islam and paganism anyways. convert or leave.)With fewer people we got rid of mammoths and wolves
>>5154369Sauce
>>5154423>the nearly entirely deforested continent isn't depopulated, it's the continents with ample wilderness that are!Cope. By any objective metric Europe is the most overpopulated continent and has been since the industrial revolution.
>>5155283>Forests GOOD! plains BAD! predators GOOD! herbivores BAD! unsafe bug infested brush GOOD! less dense brush inhabited by birds BAD!Any advanced society will shape all surrounding nature to be the opposite of what you people want. Humans like plains, sparse woods, and accessible water. Ants like hills. Deal w/ it. Africans are already eradicating AWDs and hyenas are next. Tusked elephants will go fully extinct when the average african IQ surpasses 90 and they may get smaller if they survive at all. If we depopulate africa they will actually do this faster. >aight nigga, way less diarrhea goin around. now we got time to build some o dem bad ass farms.
>>5155279https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Mononoke
>>5155285You have the mentality of an ape, or someone stuck on a 1920s mode of development, please boil in excrement in hell.
>>5155285You have a large ammountnof melanin in your skin and a severely low IQ
>>5155285This is such a simplistic and chud assessment of history and humanity that I wonder if you're not underage.
>>5155285Absolute chad. Hippies seething. Total forest death. Total predator death. GRASSLANDS AND DEER FOREVER!
>>5154369Unironically the suburbs and rural areas have a decent amount of nature. Sure you won't find herds of bisons, but you can still find diverse habitats and species alongside rivers and the middle of swamps, or a guy who doesn't really care about maintaining his property that much.The modern suburban sprawl that destroys entire forests to make a cookie cutter developments however is absolutely horrible, and so is the leftist ideal where they shove us all into commie blocks.
>>5156577>>5156572>>5156571>t. seething wolf samefagging on overdrive No more hiding in trees and killing shit for you bucko
>>5156611They're right though
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>>5156614>nooooo nature as you found it is… le sacred! the creators will! its more important than us!Life uh, finds a way. *chops down your magical tree, causing the extinction a slightly darker version of a local beetle that only lived in one specific hole in it**kills all the wolves**introduces housecats and starlings**digs a new lake and fills it with mutant killer goldfish**genetically engineers chickenraptors, seeds a population of 1,000*
>>5156621Yet you except everyone to care whether your specific breed of human dies out or not.
>>5154369Coexistance is never peaceful, as humans will always be hunting prey, and carnivores will always be on the lookout for an easy indian kid burger or something. Plus, add to that extremely violent herbivores (elephants in musth), and the consciousless side of nature (tornadoes, tsunamis, earthquakes etc..) always starting shit.The question should be: can humans and nature coexist IN BALANCE? The answer is YES, as we've done do for over 300k years, up until the industrial revolution.So the REALLY interesting question becomes: can POST-INDUSTRIAL humanity coexist in balance with nature? And that's a tough one. There are ways to make it happen... Although 99% of people of the planet would be vehemently opposed to them (restricted breeding, depopulation tactics, old age culling, reduced quality of life, destruction of the globalized consummerist economic network etc...). So it's more of a no than a yesThx for reading my blog
>>5156625In your “ethical” system, you consider it a triumph to strike a balance between dead africans from malaria and the sanctity of the surrounding environment. Why should anyone care what you think? you’d seriously consider shooting a rancher in the back of the head to save 10,000 cows. In my moral system, I give them a continents worth of DDT and then we team up and conquer Israel in the name of Christ. Any extinct birds are replaced with bald Eagles. Palestinians are forcibly converted to judaism. We then rename the entire region American and start farming lions to make burgers. Winning.
>>5156639Restricting breeding and completely and unconditionally banning interest bearing loans would take care of all our problemsThe rest of your NWO BS is so a few people can be rich off an illusion of economic growth and isnt needed
>>5156650Strawman nonsense.
>>5156651>Restricting breedingno thanks commie faggot
>>5156625>humans matter more than animals:osay it aint so!remember that without humans invasive species wiping out entire branches of life is just business as usual. two rats on a floating log. RIP your young ecosystem.
>>5156659Communists are usually anti-Malthusian.
>>5154369Remove all jeets and rightoids and you're a good bit of the way there.
>>5154374never gonna happen unless we finally figure out how to preserve our knowledge the next time we get cataclysm'd. but in our hubris we can't even acknowledge we aren't the pinnacle of humanity, just yet another cog in our ever spinning wheel of death and rebirth. half a million years of humanity couldn't find a cure for our collective amnesia. maybe we're just meant to die with our turbulent blue marble?
>>5155285Humans like forests too, mongoloid. Biodiversity is a good thing. As society advances we have become MORE conservationist, because as a society gets more intelligent it realizes it has to manage resources. Unlike you, who thinks slash and burn farming is the best method. >>5156589Samefagging is pathetic
>>5156650Yeah i would, who cares about 1 rancher? We have billions of people and can make more easily. Humanist loser. >>5156659Cowardly faggot unable to face the truth
>>5154369Places full of white people will be perfectly fine. That demographic actually cares about preservation. Every other area we have to watch out for though.
>>5159177>Places full of white people will be perfectly fineyou sure about that?