I wish these niggas were still around
>What if a saber-tooth cat, but also a bear and a T-rexit always surprise me ow little popularity they have despite being so cool.Maybe someone should get Spielberg to do a Permian Park movie.
>>5156661>it always surprise me ow little popularity they have despite being so cool.it's better this way, brother, if they get popular like dinosaurs, pretentious idiots will start covering them all over with feathers and act like it's scientifically correct
>>5156740>us idiots will start covering them all over with feathers No, they would be covered in fur instead, since they're more related to mammals than reptiles.
>>5156742>No, they would be covered in fur instead, since they're more related to mammals than reptiles.Your mistake is thinking these science wannabe types care about this, they'd even cover an anomalocarys with feathers if given the oportunityfor the sake of these incredible creatures, its better that the paleozoic remains obscure, it's already bad enough that dinosaurs were ruined
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>>5156740>>5156742>>5156750Different Anon: I like it when they give them a couple whiskers and just a thin coat of fur, it looks good on them and rounds out their visual design more.
>>5156661I've wanted to see them in a Jurassic movie even since i got this bad boy as a kid.People always say Inostrancevia but i think it would be more interesting to use one of the smaller species (like the one this toy is based on) and have them hunt like hounds
>Survives the Great DyingNothin personnel... gorgonopsids
>>5156661the battle between dimetrodons and the entire sailback fauna of the early permian and the weird bearpig fauna of the late permian needs to be recordedsadly the wrong team won
>>5156927They should get Therocephalians for that, there's evidence some species formed packs, and there's also evidence they were venomous.A pack of Wolf-lizards with poisonous bites would be scary as fuck.
>>5158115That does sound great
Kinda insane that, despite all the huge land animals of the Permian, the only thing flying above their heads were insects.The closest thing to flying vertebrates was a group of gliding repitiles.
>no molars>none>as a matter of fact, no rear teeth at all in the lower jawhow tf did they eat
>>5160183Swallow
>>5156976Can't go extinct if you're already dead inside.
>>5155767Why did Dinosaurs out-compete them?
>>5160696Same reason humans outcompeted dinosaurs
>>5156927I had this figure, it was based
>>5160696Therapsids have survived more mass extinctions than Dinosaurs
>>5156750cry more
>>5160686literallymeosaurus
>>5156976>>5160686I'm completely fucking enthralled by this creature. What an amazing bit of world building it has.>Massive extinction occurs and your species is one of the few that survives. >Not particularly good at anything, just kind of a generic, plump, burrowing, pot-bellied chud-like, beast. >However, you can eat shoots & roots, and you're great at hibernating, which was enough. >Become so fucking numerous and uncontested, you literally march and graze down the continent from one end to the other, turn around, and do it again.>Proceed to spread across the planet and account for 95% of terrestrial vertebrates. Evolve into just a shit load of weird forms All Tommorows style.What a time period that must have been.
>>5156740The synapsid equivalent to feathers would be portraying them with mammalian-like skin, straight up fur with cat-like patterns and everything, and whiskers...which is exactly what happens nowadays
>Lives through out most of the TriassicHow did they do it?
>>5156740>>5156742>>5161592This feels like even more of a nothingburger issue then normal since both LOOP and Surviving Earth had their synapsids completely/nearly completely furless
>>5161811Dicynodonts were essentially the cows of the Triassic, there's even evidence of communal latrines that herds would use to shit in. The Triassic is known mostly as the time period where dinosaurs got their start but to me the first dinosaurs were pretty boring in comparison to the other creatures alive at the time. While the Jurassic and Cretaceous are known for having giant reptiles, the Triassic had its own giant animals like dicynodonts and psuedosuchians on land and colossal ichthyosaurs in the oceans.
>>5156661because it's the size of a dog, an T. rex the size of a bus is going to win that coolness factor every time
What was the ancestor of the dinosaurs in the Permian?
>>5161924I wonder why some of them developed beaks. I wonder if mammals could develop beaks.
>>5164086>I wonder why some of them developed beaks.Probably as something better suited tor eating tough conifers.>I wonder if mammals could develop beaks.Unnecessary, since plants nowdays are much more diverse, with the vast majority being easier to eat.
>>5163898archosauriformeshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archosauriformesdinosaur ancestors in permian were pretty much lizard-looking animals into --> half-bipedal lizards into--> bipedal lizards
>>5156661Primeval gave it a pretty kickass portrayal, it even got to fight and defeat a superpredator from the future.
I love the story of life on Earth so much, bros.
>>5160696the dinosaurs were descendants of the true reptiles that were alive at the same time as gorgonopsids, but basically because surviving an apocalypse is easier if you weight some 5 then if your weights is in the hundreds or thousands. most survivors of the impact were small animals
>>5160696Dinosaurs out-competed everything.The therapods outcompeted rauisuchians and cynodonts. The sauropods outcompeted all the other herbivores of the era (Aetosaurs, Dicynodonts, Rhyncosaurs).Why did this happen we aren't sure.Jurassic and Cretaceous is basically dinosaurs competing with each-other.>>5165256The name-sake of the group, Archosaurus lived at the tail-end of the Permian, and was pretty big (About 3 meters). It seems Archosaurs were pretty well-suited for the fucked up Late Permian world.
>>5167023>Why did this happen we aren't sure.Warm blood?
>>5156661What the hell does that little guy think he's gonna do standing up to the big one like that?
>>5167451Could be the classic "act like a rabid animal so they think you are a rabid animal" technique some smaller species have
>>5160686>>5161138>>5161811>>5161924Bulbasaur based on that. Venusaur are based on Pareiasauria. Don't care what Game Freak said.
>>5156661>>5156927I am glad they did not appear in the novel or the movie; how would one get hold of their very old DNA after the Permian and Triassic extinction events?
>>5167751Bulbasaur and its line are actually based on toads
>>5167023>Laughs in Repenomamus
>>5160686Aint that looking like a molerat?
>>5167752There are even older DImetrodons in Jurassic World 3.
>>5167751People have been saying this for years but i never saw the resemblance at all
>>5167752No amber back then so I guess they just wouldn't.
>>5167524Did rabies exist in the Permian?
>>5168186Probably not.
>>5168186that's an interesting question, what diseases could these "proto-mammals" have that still exist today?
>>5168339None, with the rate of virus evolution. For sure there were flu-like viruses, all the others are a crapshoot, but we can infer certain virus strains from our own DNA.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endogenous_retrovirushttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleovirology
>>5168339Spinolestes has the signs of a fungal infection
>>5164086Don't we have the platypus?
YES LETS GO FEATHER VS NO FEATHER SCHIZO VS HIMSELF LIVE TONIGHT ON PRIME TIME 4CHAN
you got to bait them out they’re elusive
>>5155767god i can't fucking wait to see them in pk or jwe3athanasia also has them as a horror game enemies which is neat
>>5167778Dinosaurs lived for longer and dominated far harder.
>>5168884We just discovered Patagomaia and a leopard sized trackmacking mammalMesozoic mammals reached larger sizes than p+reviously thought, and fucked up dinosaurs
>>5156927>>5160702I saw it in a shop and wanted it but my parents wouldn't buy me it
>>5167451It ain't the size of the dog in the fight that matters, its the size of the fight in the dog.
How do we know they didn't have external ears?
>>5169218Because their ear bones were still attached to the jaw
