Does it SUCK to be a herbivore especially mammalian herbivores?>you can't digest cellulose on your own, you need a specific microbiome>you need to spend hours fermenting and digesting plant matter>often times the plant matter isn't nutritious enough and you have opportunistically eat meat>if you're a hindgut fermenter, your young literally have to eat the shit of their mothers to gain the right gut microbiome>if you're a hindgut fermenter, the large size of your body/belly isn't fat but intestines (like manatees/dugong/many monkeys)>if you're a foregut fermenter, you have to spend most of your waking hours chewing cud then belching >you get more nutrients from plant matter compared to hindgut fermenters but you still have to constantly regurgitate then chew and repeatBoy am I glad that we're omnivores
>>5159567They seem to get by just fine. In fact these are some of the chillest mammals with few worries.
Is it worse than being a detritivore?
>>5159567Mammalian herbivores basically evolve to be food for other animals. They are living compost heaps.>Hello, I turn plant matter into food for you.>Please kill my friends so I can reproduce instead.
>>5159569Land snails are detritivore and they are doing pretty well in survival department
>>5159567How is it for pseudoruminants?
For me, it's foregut fermenters.
>>5159567Donβt forget the shit-eaters!
>>5159651They still have to chew cud but they have a slightly different amount of stomach and chambers compared to the usual fourAnd for camels, they're more efficient at extracting nutrients from shitty twigs
>>5159567But bro, the floor is LITERALLY food. That's sweet as hell.
>>5159567It sounds gross to us but these animals probably evolved to enjoy chewing their cud/eating their cecotrope, the same way we enjoy eating cooked foods that are perceived as gross by most other animals.
>>5160431But most herbivores really like our foodThey go crazy for candies and fruits (in candy form)
>>5160687thats because theyre designed to look for the sweetest vegetable, because that means it has the most nutrients in it, that would be a carrot in the wild
>>5159567the worst part is how little of their lives are spent sleeping.
>>5160405Interesting. I suppose it's the best of both world while allowing them to get the most out of everything rather than constantly eat new things like we do.
>>5160717Yeah I think giraffes only sleep like two hours a day or some shit Meanwhile big cats rest a lot
>>5160983compared to human's 8 hours / day sleeping... giraffes live 80 human waking years in just 20 chronological years.
>>5159797At least they realize how many nutrients are wasted if they don't eat their shit again
>>5159567Goats seem pretty relaxed and content while chewing cud. I don't think it bothers them. It would really suck to get bloat tho.
Bump
>>5159567no? food is easy to obtain and is everywhere. its piss and shit easy. carnivory is way more difficult.
>>5162941>food is easy to obtain and is everywherenot in wintertime
>BumpBut an ad you carnivver
>>5164125Typical herbivore All that grass left you with no nutrients to develop your brain
>>5159567>you need a specific microbiomeAnon just about every animal with a gut requires a bacterial biome to help digest.
>>5159569>>5159618I was thinking about it just the other day, but there isn't a lot that actually eats fallen vegetable matter. It's pretty much just fungi, snails, and worms.Throw a salad on the ground, and it'll just rot.