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Why wouldnt this work
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Laboraty log e-2, hopefully the mega deadly killer butterfly doesn't escape its containment cell after we've given it both an aerosolized rabies virus strain and increased tumorous cell growth hormones, that would fucking suuuuuck
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>>5168666
caterpillar doesn't actually become a complete pile of goop, some organs remain intact
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>>5168668
Laboratory Log E-3
pollen
itchy
necter
tasty
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>>5168669
That's not true at all. Google it. Entirely goo. It's pretty wild.
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>>5168666
It does and has
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It's totally impossible nobody has ever done that and nobody has ever tried it
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Beetlemaxxing is antisemetic
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>>5168692
kek
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>>5168669
>>5168696
>>5168697
birdposters
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>caterpillar is liquid
what?
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>you will never take a sip from the caterpilk
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>>5168666
Does the brain become goop too?
Is metamorphosis an actual death of the self, and another ego get birthed from what is effectively your corpse?
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>>5168694
false
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>>5168694
No it's not. If you cut open a caterpillar near the end of its growth you can literally find the already developing wings inside of it.
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>>5168872
There's research showing that moths retain at least some memories of their lives as caterpillars.
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>>5168886
They certainly don't remember how windows or lamps work
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>>5168666
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>>5168893
What the fuck...........
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https://www.neperos.com/article/qt3o6y46c924d4c2

an interesting article about a whacky metamorphosis experiment
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>>5168666
lets assume the absolute best case scenario that it did work, what would come out would be a nonfunctional organism. The wings would not be able to carry its weight.

Ofc it would never get that far.
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>>5169065
Uh.
I always assumed the goop was sorta re-homogenized inside and just used as nutrients for the new thing, kinda like an albumen.
Looks like the segments are still "there" even if melted, if they turn into their proper adult counterpart instead of the entire thing re-doing the full differentiation and resulting in a tiny but full adult.
Gruesome but good experiments.

Now I wonder if there are any archaic metamorphosis pathways in vertebrate/mammals, or if the entire machinery for it was developed after we branched off.
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>>5169075
Well, according to google, the short answer is no.
The long answer is "yes, but only with lame-ass and useless results no matter what you try".
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>>5168893
Not gonna lie the goo looks like candy here.
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>>5168668
There used to be a Disney ride with this exact premise but it got shut down for being too scary.
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>>5169065
neat and educational, thanks
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>>5169075
There was a study some years back that showed that some butterflies retained "memories" from when they were caterpillars.
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>>5168893
>It's still moving as it gets devoured
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caterpillars and butterlies being the same animal is one of those obvious things that I consciously know but it's always so goddamn weird to think about
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>>5168666
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No.
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>>5168666
brb I'm climbing in
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>>5168692
Underrated post
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>>5168892
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>>5169065
>literal fucknugget breeding
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>>5169477
ha
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>>5168893
I can't believe I'm an adult and I did not know it looks like this inside. I thought it gradually grows and loses parts like how mutation is depicted in popular media.
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>>5168893
At least the dubious little creature is having a great time! The half formed butterfly, not so much.
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>>5168893
don't know how to feel about this...
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this thread just ruined butterflies for me
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even if it did, the poor thing wouldn't be able to breathe due to how their respiratory system works. there's reasons why arthropods don't get that big, man.
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>>5168666
Because they would die, if they didn't it would give all of them super mega Giga cancer and they would die in short order before developing. If you could somehow clone the DNA goop it would still fail, if that somehow got to maturity it would die because there is not enough oxygen to support it.
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>>5168666
Everyone here is such a cunt. This would obviously fucking work and they’re too afraid to try. The elites don’t want you to try either
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>>5169065
This is very interesting and also makes me want to throw up.
>A fatal flight concluded the experiment. The third pupa, which has become a butterfly, extends its wings and flies away. Although the two sections of the body had developed, the delicate fabric bridge within the tube broke and the insect fell to the ground and died.
okay yeah definitely gonna throw up
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>>5169065
why did they use a moth and then call it a butterfly over and over
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>>5168666
this is how you summon perfectly ultimate great moth irl
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>>5170241

Its an albino sugar glider. See the wing membranes
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>>5168694
I googled it, and the other guy was right. You're a fucking retard
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>>5169065
>or if the entire machinery for it was developed after we branched off.
Well yes, because that kind of metamorphosis is entirely unique to insects and even then only some of them.
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>>5170291
Breathing is not what limits arthropod size, this has been debunked for years now. It's the exoskeleton, specifically the need to molt.
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>>5169065
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>>5170687
In order for the change from a caterpillar to a butterfly to take place within the pupa, the caterpillar begins releasing enzymes that literally digest nearly all of its own body. What’s left inside the chrysalis is mostly just a very nutrient rich soup from which the butterfly will begin to form.

It was thought until very recently that the caterpillar was completely converted to goo, excepting certain special cells necessary to create the butterfly body parts. This idea has recently been debunked with researchers at Georgetown University proving that moths retain at least some of the memories they had when they were caterpillars. For this to be the case, at least some of their memory storing neurons must survive the enzyme digestion process. Further, these neurons must somehow be incorporated into the moth or butterfly’s brain, which is quite a bit larger and more complex than a caterpillar’s brain.

Also left within the goo are very tiny imaginal disks, which are similar to embryonic cells. These disks are actually present within the caterpillar its whole life, but they stop growing at a certain point in the caterpillar’s development and only start again when it is time for the caterpillar to morph into a butterfly. Once the proper time comes, the imaginal disks use the nutrients from the digested body of the caterpillar as they form into different parts of the butterfly’s body, with different disks forming into different tissues. For instance, there are imaginal disks that will form the legs, antennae, specific organs, etc. of the butterfly. There are even four imaginal disks that form wings. If one of these forming wings is removed, the other three will simply adapt to form bigger wings to compensate for the loss of the one wing.
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>>5169065
>>5170810
This is just telling me Josef Mengele did not 8n fact die in '79 but kept living and eventually became an entomologist
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>>5169065
me on the right
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>>5170637
The little guy really thought he made it
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Seriously, wtf was wrong with this person?
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>>5169065
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>>5168695
proofs?
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>>5170939
I mean, SOMEONE's gotta uncover all the secrets of lepidopteran metamorphosis, if he didn't someone else would
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>>5170861
Anon, those are photos in a textbook from the 60s, Mengele was alive and well when those were published.
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>Truman & Riddiford removed the brains from pupae and transplanted them into the abdominal cavity to generate ‘loose-brain’ pupae. These ‘loose-brain’ moths retained the pattern of eclosion – the brain did not have to be connected to exert its effects!
>Developing a novel housing system, they then exposed the pupae to different lighting regimes in different areas of the body – the head in light when the body was in darkness and vice versa (Fig. 1).
>Whether the brain was in the head or the abdomen, the timing of eclosion matched the lighting schedule of the brain – the brain itself was sensing the photoperiod and driving eclosion to match its input.
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>>5168666
It does work. Thats how your mom was made
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>>5174167
have we tested this on monkeys yet?
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>>5171782
I had all of those books as a kid.
I remember the ocean one having a truly disgusting page where it was just an illustration of all the worms and shit in the ocean.
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>>5170939
The caption to this image mentions this was its first flight, and when it landed the plastic tube broke and it dieded.
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>>5168666
kill
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holy fuck I just thought caterpillars slowly morphed into butterflies like tadpoles into frogs

I had no idea about any of this goop shit wth
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>>5174199
worms are cool
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>>5168666
It would be extremely painful.
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>>5174245
You're a big bug.
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>>5171405
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>>5169065
Absolutely horrifying, saved, nightmares imbound, thanks for sharing!
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>>5174361
fpbp
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>>5174409
Nigger what?



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