Carbon dioxide has 2 very specific absorbtion spectra in the infrared. Meaning that if you could see infrared you would notice a dimming effect of those colors. At only 400ppm CO2 we're already experiencing a 70% reduction of light at these 2 specific wavelenths. Adding more CO2 simply runs into the law of diminishing effects.
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>>950847206fpbp
>>950847156Most of the planet is covered in water. How much heat can water hold?
>>950847342Wow thats quite the pivot from the thread topic which is CO2.
>>950847432It's almost like the climate is more complex than a single variable, huh? Do you understand the difference between carbon dioxide emissions and carbon dioxide equivalent emissions?
>>950849381Plus he ignores methane
>>950847156>Adding more CO2 simply runs into the law of diminishing effects.True, but the error you're making is assuming stasis. The CO2 that is there is still absorbing and heating the planet.Alsohttps://skepticalscience.com/co2-temperature-correlation-basic.htmlandhttps://factsonclimate.org/infographics/concentration-warming-relationship
>>950849381>>950850532Nope. Not ignoring anything. Its you trying to move the goalposts. ITT all I'm here to discuss is CO2 as it is much maligned.
>>950850722>True, but the error you're making is assuming stasisThats a lovely strawman. I never mentioned nor assumed stasis. In fact I'm well aware that conditions on this planet Earth were never static or "normal" whatever that is.
>>950850722>error you're making is assuming stasis.Fully aware that sometimes planet Earth has year round ice caps and thus is in an "ice age" and other times tho few there are no ice caps at the poles.
>>950850838Also fully aware the graph I just posted only shows the last 500 million years and the earth is billions of years old.
>>950850838>Earth has year round ice caps and thus is in an "ice age"that's not what an ice age is.
>>950851001AI Overview An ice age is a long period of Earth's history when global temperatures drop significantly, resulting in the expansion of polar ice caps and alpine glaciers. Technically, we are still living in an ice age that began about 2.5 million years ago, but we are currently in a temporary warm phase.Ice ages are complex, dynamic eras defined by cycles of frigid and warmer weather.The Two CyclesGlacial Periods (Ice Ages): Times of peak cold when massive ice sheets advance and cover huge portions of the globe. During the peak of the last glacial period (around 20,000 years ago), ice covered about a third of Earth's landmass, and global temperatures were roughly 5°C (10°F) colder than today.Interglacial Periods: Warmer, milder intervals between glacials. We are currently in an interglacial period that began about 11,000 years ago, which has allowed human civilization to thrive.How They HappenIce ages and their recurring cycles are triggered by several interwoven factors:Earth's Orbit: Subtle shifts in Earth's tilt, wobble, and orbit change the amount of sunlight reaching the Northern Hemisphere, which can trigger or end glacial cycles.Atmosphere: Drastic changes in greenhouse gas concentrations (like carbon dioxide) heavily influence global warmth.Tectonics: The shifting of continents alters ocean and atmospheric circulation, rerouting warm water and affecting the climate.Earth's Major Ice AgesThroughout our planet's 4.5 billion-year history, geologists have identified at least five major ice age events. The earliest occurred over 2 billion years ago, while the most recent one—the Quaternary Glaciation—started about 2.5 million years ago and continues to the present day.
>>950851198>Technically, we are still living in an ice age that began about 2.5 million years ago, but we are currently in a temporary warm phase.google says no and feel free to complain about AI slop but can you refute whats been said? Doubtful.
>>950850748How many pixels would all of human civilization be on that graph?
>>950850748Do you know what carbon dioxide equivalent emissions are?
>>950847156OK so global warming isn't real, but most of the oil is still located in countries that hate America. Now does it make sense to invest in renewables?
>>9508514094
>>950851523Not my argument but my take is this. If petroleum is fossil fuel and not abiogenic then yes we have a limited supply. Even if its abiogenic we have a limited supply.Why wait to develop alternatives? I am certainly not against them as I have a smallish plethora of batteries and solar in close proximity to my butt.Cant charge the e-scooter directly from solar just yet but I'm working on it.Fuck big oil. But at the same time thats where we are and big diesel trucks bring me everything.No government subsidies as that leads to graft. How many fly by night companies swooped in during Obama and took millions in grants just to go bust?You might not want to hear this but thats borderline socialism.The more you make of something the cheaper it gets and battery/solar are no exception.Find alternatives but the smart money right now is on PEVs and modest solar/battery backups and not full size EVs.Be an early adopter of full size EV if you have the cheddar.IDGAF what your vehicle runs on only that you're responsible and mindful and considerate.End of line.
>>950851713tl;dr buy a legal or close to legal ebike and use that for short trips when the weather is nice. Also light that bitch up at night so light armored vehicle drivers can see your ass.
>>950850748seehttps://skepticalscience.com/argument.php?p=28&t=904&&a=22where your chart features. And is put into the context you wilfully omit
>>950853744>nto the context you wilfully omitLoL this guy.
>>950851556Incorrect.
>>950851523They don't care about that. They want foreverwars.
>>950853744"Greenhouse gasses, principally CO2, have controlled most ancient climate changes. This time around humans are the cause, mainly by our CO2 emissions."Motherfucking horse shit. Not buying it.Did you not notice the big chart that shows CO2 having fuck all to do with earths temps for millions of years?>>950850748Enjoy the kool aid, dumbass.
>>950854021>Some retard thinks science doesn't pass the smell testCool story, bro. I'm so glad you aren't in charge of anything important.
Where was CO2 when the Little Ice Age happened?Where was CO2 when the Medieval Warming Period happened?Oh thats right, atmospheric CO2 didnt change during those 400 or so year stretches. Neither did volcanic activity.Dude you've been brainwashed.
>>950854037Nice appeal to authority fallacy.
>>950854037Leets never lie to we the people. LoL. Boot licker.
>>950854096Little ice age was a local event. Your graph doesn't show the global average temperature. Can't you read?
>>950854112>>950854139You didn't present a legitimate argument or evidence that the argument you were responding to was wrong. Holy shit I'm glad neither of you are in charge of anything important.
>>950854205>Little ice age was a local event.kek. Now this obvious shill faggot wants us to believe the wind JUST STOPPED FUCKING BLOWING FOR 400 FUCKING YEARS.You're a joke bro. Was waiting for you to show your hand and you did. You really did.
>>950854270Weird strawman. Did you have a graph of global temperatures to present, or did you not understand the difference between the temperature of the Northern hemisphere and the globe?
>>950854321Nice try.
>>950854321You lost all credibility when you tried to claim the tradewinds caused by the Earths rotation simply FUKING STOPPED FOR 400 FUCKING YEARS.You're an imbecile. A faggot. A raging douchebag.
>>950854358Are you saying you don't have the graph or you don't understand the difference? I have the graph.
>>950854384This isn't any less weird of a strawman because you said it twice. Are you saying you don't have the graph or you don't understand the difference?
AI Overview The permanent, prevailing Trade winds have never completely stopped on a global scale, as they are permanently driven by Earth's rotation and the uneven heating of the equator. However, regional Trade winds—such as those in the Pacific—frequently weaken, shift direction, or temporarily die down.Regional trade winds can halt or reverse for several specific reasons:Weather Shifts: In places like the Hawaiian Islands, high-pressure systems typically push steady, cooling breezes. However, these can be replaced by low-pressure systems that bring light, variable or southerly (Kona) winds.El Niño Events: Warmer ocean surface temperatures can drastically weaken the easterly trade winds, which can sometimes even lead to total wind reversals.Doldrums: The equatorial belt (the "doldrums") features a natural, localized dead-zone where trade winds cancel each other out, resulting in days or weeks of calm, windless air.Long-Term Climate Trends: Climatologists have observed an alarming long-term decline in the frequency and intensity of Hawaii's northeast trade winds over the past several decades, leading to fewer consistently breezy days.
>>950854403lol faggot with his debunked climate hockey stick. Weak bitch.
>>950854456This isn't any less of a weird strawman just because asked an AI. Are you really expecting anyone to fall for this? You're the only one talking about trade winds.
>>950854510That's an ice core reconstruction showing the temperature of Greenland. Why can't you read? Don't you know anything about anything?
>>950854522lol this faggot is now saying left leaning google is lying about climate.To be you.
>>950854563This continues to be a weird strawman. You asked it a completely unrelated question. Go ahead and type in "were the little ice age and the medieval warm period global events?" instead of continuing with your strawman.
Tell us more about how the tradewinds supposedly JUST FUCKING STOPPED FOR 400 FUCKING YEARS?Imbecile.Please dont procreate.
>>950854630Weird strawman. You're the only one saying that. Why don't you want to ask an AI if the little ice age and the medieval warm period global events?
>>950854610Weak ass bitch made faggot. google already proved you wrong.
>>950854644Sure, buddy.
>>950854644>period global eventsperiod were* global events
>>950854645This is still a weird strawman. Here you go.No, the Little Ice Age and the Medieval Warm Period were not globally synchronous events, but rather regional climate fluctuations. While specific regions experienced distinct temperature shifts, less than half the globe experienced these peak temperature extremes at the same time.Paleoclimate studies, such as the extensive research published by the Columbia Climate School, show that past climate epochs were not coherent phenomena across the entire planet.Read it and weap. Nothing to do with trade winds.
>>950854662Read it and weap, retard >>950854700
>>950854717k
>>950854724GG no re
>>950854781Sure bro.
>>950854814I know you're salty and you're just going to try to bury your shame as quickly as possible so I'm going to bump this thread with more climate relevant graphs all day long. This is a fun one that shows that global warming is anthropogenic.
>>950854880Whatever bro.
>>950854903No no, it's too soon. We're only on page 2. We're in this for the long game. I might even week this thread up for a few weeks.
>>950854880>I know you're saltyMr 1up needs me to be "salty" so he can feel like hes won somethingAlso google wrong. Trust internet rando.
>>950854925>weekKeep*
>>950854931Google said I'm right and you're wrong. Why did you try to make up shit about trade winds? >>950854700Quite now. You won't be able to get this thread up to bump limit like this.
>>950854979>Quite now.Mr 1up trying very hard to 1up.
Lies. There is no "climate consensus." That myth was debunked repeatedly.Libtard school of libtardism. ROFL.The Columbia Climate School operates within a broader academic environment where faculty are predominantly liberal Columbia Daily Spectator. While the institution is dedicated to scientific consensus on global warming, the intersection of its climate policies and corporate funding has sparked ideological debate from both ends of the political spectrum The Guardian.
>>950855128Explain this graph to me >>950854880
Many climate change scientists do not agree that global warming is happening.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1112950/That so called "consensus" comes from scientists getting paid to push a narrative. You dont push the narrative you dont get paid.
>>950847156Kinda like if I shot you once it'd be almost pointless to keep shooting you? Oh well, Imma keep shooting anyway to see if you're right
For millions of years atmospheric CO2 levels had fuck all to do with Earths temps. CO2 reached over 9,000ppm while temps were cooler.Climatards always point to their little cherry picked graphs showing the last few hundred years. They exclude every bit of data that does not align with their narrative.Its all a scam to collect carbon taxes.
Hahaha I broke this retard and he just realized he doesn't have enough pictures to get this thread to bump limit. Every post you make proves me right. You're engaging in your own humiliation ritual for my entertainment.
>>950855309>Hahaha I broke this retardMr 1up desperately trying to 1up. Thats all he cares about is feeling like hes won something.
>>950855191>scientists getting paid to push a narrativeSo the fossil fuel industry can't compete with this & doesn't try? If it did try, what do you think their argument would be? Too bad the big money isn't on their side ... oh wait
>>950855461So China isnt trying to influence and weaken the west?Oh you sweet summer child.
AI Overview Trade winds are permanent, prevailing east-to-west winds that circle the Earth near the equator, blowing from the northeast in the Northern Hemisphere and from the southeast in the Southern Hemisphere.How They FormTrade winds are created by a combination of intense solar heating and the Earth's rotation, operating in a continuous cycle called a Hadley Cell:Rising Warmth: The Sun heavily heats the air at the equator, causing it to warm, become less dense, and rise into the atmosphere.Cooling and Sinking: This rising air travels toward the poles, cools, and sinks back down toward the Earth's surface at roughly 30° latitude (both north and south).The Coriolis Effect: As this cool, dense air rushes back toward the low-pressure zone at the equator, the Earth's rotation deflects the winds. This deflection causes Northern Hemisphere winds to curve to the right (northeast to southwest) and Southern Hemisphere winds to curve to the left (southeast to northwest).Historical SignificanceTrade winds are named after the nautical term "trade," which historically meant "path" or "track," rather than commerce. For centuries, sailors relied heavily on these steady, predictable winds to propel their sailing vessels across the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.Impact on Weather and ClimateBecause they blow across the ocean, trade winds pick up immense amounts of moisture. As they reach tropical landmasses or warm waters, they frequently produce rain and can also act as the steering currents that guide hurricanes and tropical storms.Fluctuations in the strength of the trade winds have massive global climate impacts. When they slow down in the Pacific Ocean, warm water pools eastward, leading to the weather phenomena known as El Niño. Conversely, an acceleration of the trade winds pushes cooler water to the surface, generating La Niña
>>950854270Trade winds are permanent, prevailing east-to-west winds that circle the Earth near the equator, blowing from the northeast in the Northern Hemisphere
How could a cold patch of air magically hover over most of Europe if..Trade winds are permanent, prevailing east-to-west winds that circle the Earth near the equator, blowing from the northeast in the Northern Hemisphere
Doesnt make any sense bro.
>>950855508>>950855534Nobody said anything about trade winds, retard.This one shows that the sun is not responsible for modern global warming. Starting to get long in the tooth though. About time to update it.
>>950855666>Nobody said anything about trade winds, retard.I said that tradewinds make it impossible for a weather pattern to be isolated above Europe for 400 years.Why cant you debate in good faith?
>>950854205>Little ice age was a local event.How is this possible when google clearly states:Trade winds are permanent, prevailing east-to-west winds that circle the Earth near the equator, blowing from the northeast in the Northern Hemisphere
>>950855599Ask google to hold your hand. Check it out.were the little ice age and the medieval warm period caused by trade winds completely stopping?No, they were not caused by trade winds stopping. Instead, the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age were driven by complex, natural shifts in the Earth's climate system, including cyclical changes in solar radiation, major volcanic eruptions, and large-scale ocean circulation patterns.While trade winds did not completely stop, the conditions were driven by natural cycles that altered standard atmospheric and ocean behavior.
>>950855706Like this >>950855715And this >>950854700Why don't you know shit about shit?
>>950855666Oh hes got solar irradiance charts. Nice cherry picking bro.Post the full story including perspective.
>>950855730>Why don't you know shit about shit?How could a cold patch hover over Europe when google clearly states:Trade winds are permanent, prevailing east-to-west winds that circle the Earth near the equator, blowing from the northeast in the Northern Hemisphere
>>950854270Volcanism. Ash in the atmosphere. Fuck's sake you're dumb, trying to isolate one factor that affects climate and expect corrolation
>>950855754Can you explain how the actual power delivered to the Earth by the sun is cherry picking? W/m^2 of is a much better measure than counting up sunspots.
>>950855730So the tradewinds just stopped for 400 years? Not buying it.
>>950855777Because that's irrelevant. I explained that to you over an hour ago and now google has too.
>>950855791>>950855793Why cant you answer a simple question?How could Europe be gripped by such cold for 400 years while the rest of the world was spared?How could the tradewinds just stop for 400 years?
>>950854510Oh. That debunked graph. Again.https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-what-greenland-ice-cores-say-about-past-and-present-climate-change/Weak bait
>>950855809You are illiterate.
>>950855861>Weak baitHow could the tradewinds just stop for 400 years?
>>950855864Cool story there, Mr 1up.
>>950855874Who said they did?
>>950855914Was the Little Ice Age a global event?
>>950854205>Little ice age was a local event. Your graph doesn't show the global average temperature. Can't you read?
>>950855934No
>>950855934No and trade winds have nothing to do with it. You're trying to force this thread to bump limit because you're embarrassed.
>>950855950So how did the tradewinds just stop blowing for 400 years? Google clearly says:"Trade winds are permanent, prevailing east-to-west winds that circle the Earth near the equator, blowing from the northeast in the Northern Hemisphere"
>>950855970>trade winds have nothing to do with it.So you're saying the tradewinds just stopped blowing for 400 years?
>>950855982You're not very good at this, are you?
>>950855970>You're trying to force this thread to bump limit because you're embarrassed.Look at Mr 1up so very hard at work trying to 1up.
>>950855474Answer unclear. Which argument is China funding to influence & weaken the west?https://www.weforum.org/stories/2025/12/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid/
>>950856040Thats nonsense though. How could the tradewinds keep blowing but the cold air remained over Europe for 400 years?You're not making sense.
>>950856003see>>950856040So you've tried CO2 and lost. You've tried trade winds and lost. What's on the next page of "My First Climate Change Deniers Workbook"
>>950856076I don't have to. The links are there; the explanation is there - go debate the experts (who'll hand you your ass)
>>950856076Probably because you don't know shit about shit. Europe isn't like your backyard.
>>950856097Appeal to authority is your logical fallacy.CO2 clearly does not control Earths temperatures.No the wind did not just stop blowing for 400 years.The Little Ice Age corresponded with a global cooling due to the sun having a Maunder type MInimum.
>>950856125>go debate the experts (who'll hand you your ass)Another appeal to authority. Mr 1up hard at work.
>>950856127Yet another appeal to authority.Learn how to debate in good faith.
>>950856144Hmmmm....
AI Overview Trade winds are permanent, prevailing east-to-west winds that circle the Earth near the equator, blowing from the northeast in the Northern Hemisphere and from the southeast in the Southern Hemisphere.How They FormTrade winds are created by a combination of intense solar heating and the Earth's rotation, operating in a continuous cycle called a Hadley Cell:Rising Warmth: The Sun heavily heats the air at the equator, causing it to warm, become less dense, and rise into the atmosphere.Cooling and Sinking: This rising air travels toward the poles, cools, and sinks back down toward the Earth's surface at roughly 30° latitude (both north and south).The Coriolis Effect: As this cool, dense air rushes back toward the low-pressure zone at the equator, the Earth's rotation deflects the winds. This deflection causes Northern Hemisphere winds to curve to the right (northeast to southwest) and Southern Hemisphere winds to curve to the left (southeast to northwest).Historical SignificanceTrade winds are named after the nautical term "trade," which historically meant "path" or "track," rather than commerce. For centuries, sailors relied heavily on these steady, predictable winds to propel their sailing vessels across the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.Impact on Weather and ClimateBecause they blow across the ocean, trade winds pick up immense amounts of moisture. As they reach tropical landmasses or warm waters, they frequently produce rain and can also act as the steering currents that guide hurricanes and tropical storms.Fluctuations in the strength of the trade winds have massive global climate impacts. When they slow down in the Pacific Ocean, warm water pools eastward, leading to the weather phenomena known as El Niño.
>>950856209Sorry you lost, sweaty.
>"lol"-china
>>950856223Nice try Mr 1up. So how did the tradewinds just stop for 400 years?
>>950856144Expert & authority are different words with different meanings jeet. I take it you wouldn't want to be thought of as an expert on any of this, lest I be victim of a fallacy
>>950856248Now you're trying to blame China? At least you aren't pretending it didn't happen.
>>950856277Oh so now I'm a "jeet." Nice cookie cutter ad hom which is typical of the democrat cult.How did the tradewinds just stop for 400 years?
>>950856058Helllooooo? Anybody home? >>950856058
>>950856291>Now you're trying to blame China?Not my post broseph.
Still wondering just how those tradewinds stopped for 400 years.
>>950856344Weird cope. You know that I clicked on your post and responded to it, right?
>>950847156Red Paprika And Then I Miss Donna And The Entertainer A Lot Of A Lot The Entertainer A The New Mexico And Then The Best
Theres no way that Europe just froze the fuck over for 400 years while the rest of the northern hemisphere was roasty toasty in summer.
>>950856291>cumulative since 1751well unless you have a time machine that doesn't really matter does it? what matters is who is using more c02 than the rest of the world combined TODAY. while you struggle to cut c02 in half in say germany, from just over half a billion tons to 0.2 billion tons saying 0.4 billion tons of c02, china is putting out 12 billion tons and rising. but you're not nagging china of course, you're nagging white countries because you're a self hating white leftoid and also you love trannies and want kids to be made into trannies in the schools and you got the covid vaxx (and boosted)
>>950856301Someone who equates expertise with authority when invoking the fallacy can't have English as their mother tongue
>>950856485>The things that happened yesterday don't matter because nobody has a time machine Tell your bank that's why you don't have to pay your mortgage.
>>950856367Remind me who said tradewinds stopped for 400yrs
>>950856388no you clicked on my post not his, and you know that, stop being a little bratty girl and grow up
>>950856485OP here. Not my comment but hes right. Why trust the party that cant define what is a woman? The same party that wants to sterilize your kids and make boys wear dresses?The faggot pedocrat party of open air grooming sessions?
>>950856523
>>950856565I am responding to the post I clicked on. Take your medication.
If the tradewinds did not stop for 400 years that means the Little Ice age was global.
>>950856589see >>950856586
>>950856570Why do you keep posting eastern european men offering money to a dancing child? Are you on a lot of lists?
>>950856610Please show your work
>>950856586>>950856523Alright, if you don't like the total emissions that the country is putting out how about we look at the average emissions produced by each citizen?
>>950856641don't talk to me about c02 unless you're willing to denounce trannies
All you do is dance around the topic but you cant explain a simple thing like the Little Ice Age.
>>950847432Trump shits don't believe climate change is real that's the joke.
>>950856702You just literally outed yourself OP. This is a false flag thread where you post graphs where you think the bars on those graphs are as big as your actually smal penis
>>950856673so does that mean you're against mass immigration? on account of how it moves people from low carbon lifestyle countries to high carbon lifestyle countries, thus releasing more carbon? no, of course not. you just hate white people.and that includes manufacturing output does it? didn't think so. you got rid of your cheap energy for muh global warming and it all went to chinese coal plants because you're retarded and also gay
>>950856708It's been explained multiple times.
>>950856708To whom are you posting anon?
>>950856770my post just flew into the world trade center!
>>950856782Can you stick to one topic for more than a single post? How do you want to divvy up accountability? By the rate of emissions of the citizens of a country or by the total emissions of a country?
>>950856770Anon isn't op bruh
>>950856849Shut up shut the fuck up goddamnit.
>>950856863I just got here. What did I miss?
What is a woman?
>>950856892Trans people are equalsClimate change is realDonald Trump needs to be removed from power so we can have a stable democracy againTell me that none of that upsets you
>>950856725I don’t believe human macro climate change is real. In other ways climate change is real when it doesn’t pertain to the effects of human beings operating on an unintentional basis for a few decades. Intentional climate change is called terraforming and that takes centuries. But it’s suddenly different when the intent is spread out and the resources are limited?Even if we wanted to intentionally make the planet hotter and utilized all of our resources across the entire planet in global harmony and cooperation it would takes hundreds of years to do. But I’m supposed to believe we’re accomplishing it completely accidentally? No I believe they’re mislabeling the actual causes of climate change. Onto humans because it gives them license to do what ever they want.
>>950856825total rate of citizens plus manufacturing retardjust because chinky chinaman doesn't have an air conditioner and eats live dog off the street instead of having a freezer (the future you want for us, but you'll exempt yourself), doesn't mean we should ignore the massive coal plants in china powering their massive manufacturing output and ramping up for data centers while polluting our oceans with mercury (which is a bigger concern than the c02)
>>950856849he knows, he's just making bratty little gotchas because that's how leftoids argue see >>950856586
>>950856921I'm a leaf preparing for your country to invade. Upset isn't a strong enough word
>>950856914Something that you will never ever touch fat assEver fat assEver ever ever everEver
>>950856950>I don’t believeDo you believe in quantum tunneling?
>>950856950>chatgrreddit spacing
>>950857019well i'm also a leaf and shut the fuck up you gay retard. put your elbows down, you're embarrassing us.
>>950856954That's right here >>950856673By the metric you chose the US is responsible for emissions. Thanks for playing.
>>950857019Yeah but you suck Trump's cock you're not upset over thatYou already have too many McDonald's up there
How many genders are there this week?
>>950856950Cool story, bro. This graph proves it >>950854880
>>950856954I use solar to power my home. I have AC & 2 freezers; don't eat dog though
>>950857092This is a sign that you know your thread sucks and nobody is falling for your false flag faggotFAGGOT
>>950857121LoL little cherry picked 1,000 year old graph. Nice try.
>>950857154Umadbro?
>>950857078prove it, where does it say they include manufacturing? for all i know that's just average per capita c02 emissions of a citizen. as in household emissions. you have to watch out for misleading stats when you post charts. maybe you're right though and it does include manufacturing but you'll still have to prove it. meanwhile chinas dirty coal plants are still poisoning the world fish supply with mercury, but you don't care because you just hate white people despite being one and that is the real core of your ideology, also trannies
>>950857154Didnt see any flags in this thread. Link?
>>950857162>2000 was 1000yrs agoWhat happened with bitcoin future bro?
>>950857162Look at the Trump shit believing it's not retarded
>>950857162I don't think you understand what cherry picking means. That graph shows the fraction of atmospheric carbon dioxide compared to atmospheric carbon-13 isotopes. As the carbon dioxide increases the fraction of carbon-13 decreases which demonstrates that the carbon is coming from a fossil fuel source.
>>950857182That's how it's calculated. Learn anything about anything.
>>950857179Did you just literally admit that you sucked at your own thread and you're abandoning it so you can get your fat ass right fully dog piled?
>>950857193>republiboomer responseOh wow it really is retarded
>>950857234He's trying to get the thread to 404 so fewer people will see his shame.
>>950857144richie rich over here with his fancy panels. i bet i use half your c02 just being poor while you lord it over me how green you are with your solars on the roof of your mansion that you uselessly apologize to the natives for "stealing" their land for your mansion, not that you'll ever give it back. and also you want children to be gender transitioned, which is bad.
>>950857215Anon who hates cherries unironically insists you only speak of CO2 .. reeeeeeeeeee
>>950857273Weird cope. Do you know what an isotope is?
Euclydes E Killibrado
>>950857264Trump shit don't care about shame though. And it's pretty obvious this retard wants his stupid thread to reach 600 so he thinks it's some kind of "success" because he rustled jimmiesAny minute now going to accuse other posters of being the log shitter
>>950857233prove ityou think they wouldn't publish a misleading chart that technically isn't lying but they know you'll interpret it in the way they want? of course they would because they want to lower quality of life in white countries and they love trannies
>>950857271My panels cost $125, they sit on recycled wood skids on the ground in my yard & were made in Kitchener Ontario. Also, I'm about to drive to Tyendenaga to buy hash for $1g because I love Native pot shops & want to give back
>>950857273
>>950857324Ask google. Are you a leftist because this is you >>950856586
>>950857297I was refering to anon, not you anon. That was sarcasm
>>950857321That's all they care about. This is a self soothing ritual so he can forget his shame and start inventing the narrative of how he won.
>>950857334You do realize you're defending a literal morally bankrupt crackhead.
>>950857393I get it now
>>950857404He's literally bankrupt too
>>950856586Really? Why don't you explain to the thread why it is you suck Donald Putin's cock? Have a "discourse" about that
>>950847156When dinosaurs lived, the Earth was about 10 degrees warmer than it is today. However, large dinosaurs were cold-blooded reptiles, so the warm climate favored their size. Mammals are the opposite; they are warm-blooded, so a cold climate favors them. That is why the largest mammals date back to the Ice Age. If the world warms up to the temperatures of the dinosaur era, it is safe to say that most mammals larger than a dog would go extinct—including humans.
>>950857376you're literally doing pic related in this post im responding to right now though. you're pretending you don't understand what i mean.>>950857349>my yardexactly, you're rich and your money should be transferred to me if you love communism so much.
>>950857430I bet he's got a bunch of pillows stuffed with money somewhere. But I bet he ends up setting the place on fire he's so druggy
>>950857404>>950857430I love a good story of redemption. And hes a millionaire. You're poor so of course that makes you madbro.
>>950857478What did google say? Why are you still pretending that you don't get it?
>>950857376Google says you are a fag. Apparently your friend is a fag too, which makes sense
>>950857485There's no way you have a bank account lol
>>950857444oh now suddenly sucking cocks is bad? i thought you loved the lgbt? maybe you just think you're better than me because you prefer tranny cock? i wouldn't suck donald or putins cock irl because they probably have vaccinated semen
>>950857510>This leftist can't accept reality and has to pretend that he doesn't understand the conversation.
>>950857467Well have you seen who's running this place? Maybe we need to go extinct.
>>950857478My property cost $10k & I let people camp here for free lol
>>950857536Wait did you just admit that you agree with the metaphor that you're basically a shameless dupe who posts whatever Donald Putin tells you to do? Because that sounded a lot like you were OK with it
>>950857540>Ask google>leftistposted unironically?
>>950857607Ask grok then. I don't give a shit which AI you use to do your thinking for you. Just stop pretending you don't understand the conversation.
>>950857565as in your daddy bought it when an acre of land cost a shiny nickel and now you're daddies money rich. gimme your land commie. i can camp there for free, on your stolen land that you wont give back to the natives? also you want children to be gender transitioned, which is bad.>>950857582pull the cocks out of your ears and listen to what i actually said
>>950857664This is weird cope.
>>950857693you know what's weird, your obsession with making children transgenders in the public schools. thats why you lost the erection, i mean election
>>950857664I heard what you said. I didn't see any attempt to defend yourself from the accusation that you in fact suck Donald Putin's cock, and that you are incapable of criticizing either, let alone making the statement that both of them have committed crimes against humanity. That's where we are for the rest of this thread
>>950857740Why are you pretending you don't understand the conversation?
>>950857740> I want to watch sexy boys get their cocks chopped off
>>950857762why are you pretending you're a woman?
>>950857478Goddammit I love Natives. Just look at this shit
>>950857783>a womanYou mean that biological unit that you will never touch?
>>950857783Why are you pretending you don't understand the conversation? Is it because you accuse others of your own tactics?
Why would you trust tranny loving pedocrat child sex abusers to tell you about the weather?
>>950857820there's a biological unit between your legs and even if you cut it off you still won't be a real woman
>>950857664I bought it 13yrs ago for less than 1 year's rent on a shittty apartment, have no children & there are no trannies here or in my head
There's a cyclical aspect to this, but also corruption and retarded boomers in congress and running the telecoms. An example of the cyclical aspect were Japanese and German factories that were razed to the ground during WWII but by15 years after the war ended had better and more modern equipment than the American factories that had made the things that destroyed them which were still using legacy equipment. Similarly the original internet infrastructure was built in America but as it became obsolete upgrades were slow and infrastructure even slower due to boomers once again preferring to save a buck and failing to see the use case for faster internet. When pressed on the issue they said shit like the country is too big and rural. When it was pointed out that there was no problem doing the same for electricity and telephones they circled back to saying congress didn't give them enough billions. Disaster of a generation....
>>950857820You mean the thing you'll never be?
>>950857847There it is. One of an infinite number of pictures you try to jack off to
>>950857876Are we discussing the effects of CO2 on your obsession with trannies now?
>>950857876 gottem
>>950857869so you're now you're just making shit up while you sit in your daddies money mansion sipping champagne and planning your next trip on a private jet while demanding the peasants turn off their air conditioners and cut their dicks off
>>950857852Who says I would? I'm just pointing out you're a pedo faggot who wants to watch little boys cocks get chopped offThat's all you think about
>>950857985Why are you pretending you don't understand the conversation?
>>950857876When you do this it's literally a barometer showing the level of rage you feel when your threads bomb like thisClimate change is realAnd you're going to pay higher taxes so that trans people can be the first recipients of UBI
> thread is random chemistry topic> thoughts immediately go to trannieswtf is wrong with all of you?
>>950858001i'm against that sort of thing, you're in favour of it. which is why i won't listen to you about c02 until you denounce the trannies. every global warming thread needs to start with "i hate trannies" do it to save the environment
>>950858064I’m sorry I joined the thread just now and you guys were talking about trannies.
>>950858067Why are you pretending you don't understand the conversation, this making discourse impossible?
>>950858099Weird projection. Why are conservatives so obsessed with trannies?
>>950858067Again you just literally brought up your fetish to watch a sexy little boy cock get hard and then grabbed by a fat man and cut off like a dog's pink hot dog
>>950858132Because once it becomes more mainstream, they begin to realize they have those tendencies within themselves, and their strict upbringing sends them into a hole
>>950858132They’re like a mascot for everything conservatives hate about modernity.
>>950858170>>950858194Yeah, but nobody cares. I'm so tired of literally every conversation being steered towards trannies.
>>950858132Why are trannies so obsessed over other peoples kids and their genitals?
>>950858214If Trump was president of Japan, he'd have them all ripped out & replaced with Mesquite.
>>950858307>why am I obsessedWell it is kind of hot. You should drop all that stupid Republican shit & embrace itYou're all pedo faggots anyway
>>950858307Why are you pretending you don't understand the conversation, thus making discourse impossible?
>>950858343
>>950858003why are you pretending you don't understand the biological differences between a man and a woman?>>950858099at the end of the day all politics is about trannies>>950858281this is the hill the left chose to die on and we're going to keep reminding you of that. nobody wants you people cutting their kids dicks off and thats why you lose every erection>>950858148>oh you're an arachnophobe? you must secretly want to fuck spiders
>>950858355OP realizes the Democrats are gonna get back into power and start taking this shit seriously again. I could see why that would make someone upset.
>>950858378Why are you pretending that you don't understand the conversation?
>>950858373You keep bringing it up though. I'm just enabling it. You literally get a little job when you think of it sexy boys cock getting cut off. You even have pictures of little boys who did it.
>>950854021>"Greenhouse gasses, principally CO2, have controlled most ancient climate changesno that's falsesolar energy output is THE thing that has controlled 99.9999% of past and present climate changes
>>950858394Sure, buddy.
>>950858422Read the entire comment bro. Not just the first line.
>>950858378We could also tell if you're getting upset, like really upset, when you make these weird aspie spaced repliesIt's like watching spiders try to spin webs on drugs
>>950858401>>950858355lol you're really mad about how accurate pic related is >>950856586 and now you are crashing out.
>>950858422It doesn't have anything to do with modern warming >>950855666
>>950858442Yeah about that picture. I'm sure there's shall we say been a question posed to you a number of times regarding it.I wonder if you can remember what that was?
>>950858463You're wrong, check it out >>950857357
>>950858465>these weird aspie spaced repliesIs that all the comeback you could manage? Sofa king weak bro.
>>950858468I'm pretty sure that you just don't understand what a rhetorical question is and you have a tendency to default to projection. Just like when you pretended to win the argument for an hour because of the trade winds that didn't have anything to do with anything being discussed.
>>950858544you're literally like some child being told "no" and then hyperventilating some pathetic and defiant series of outbursts
>>950858564pretty sure you just don't understand what a woman is and you have a tendency to default to genital mutilation. just like when you pretend propaganda encouraging gender transitions in public schools is "love". this is about climate change because everyone talking about it also wants to cut kids dicks off and flood our countries with dirty brown people, because they hate whites despite being white. and now you demand to be taken seriously? also stop pretending you don't know i'm not op.
>>950858787Why are you pretending you don't understand the conversation, thus making discourse impossible?
>>950858787>what a woman issomething you will never toucheverever ever ever ever EVER
>>950858813>>950858468
>>950858856That's not an explanation. You keep posting non sequiturs in response to everything. Why are you pretending you don't understand the conversation, thus making discourse impossible?
>>950858856not him but it's pretty obvious you have a Trumper's understanding of sciencethe projection is maximum
>>950858847
>>950858948Are you saying that you're a woman and that's why you pretend that you don't understand the conversation?
>>950858945xx chromsomes: womanxy chromosomes: manthat's all the science i need.
>>950858948Best to just send them over the top and watch them flop around like an electrocuted puppet. They're already hella upset about the other things that brought them to this.
>>950859033Why are you pretending that you don't understand the conversation, thus making discourse impossible?
>>950859003yawnstep it up brat, if you can't do better than this you're not worth a response. maybe being an annoying brat works to piss off your bf so he slaps you and makes your vag tingle, but its not working on me.
>>950859033you're going to need money when you get taxed higher to pay for TransUBI
>>950859111Why are you pretending that you don't understand the conversation?
>>950859338does this account for areas that dont get as much sun or the loss of energy from transmitting energy across long wires from the places with sun to the places without?
>>950859338or we could just put solar in space, but you're against that because elon denounced trannies
>>950859470Yup. If it didn't you could move the panels elsewhere, or install, say, 1000 times the panels before it started to matter.
>>950859529btw a substantial portion of Elon's wealth will be channeled into funding TransUBI.
>>950859529You don't understand how much energy a launch takes and you also don't understand the issues of trying to beam power through cloud cover. Solar panels are way better. In fact with agrivoltaics you can install the solar panels over cabbage fields and get all the energy you need for the entire world while also producing more cabbage per acre.
>>950859470>the loss of energy from transmitting energy across long wiresThis is literally a line on electricity bills already. I don't care myself, since I don't get elecricity bills anymore
>>950856570you take the pink money as part of humilation ritual anon
>>950859635>how much energy a launch takesat least 10x less with starship. but you pretend not to understand that and pretend like we'd be launching these on atlas rockets>>950859541>just move the panelsenergy is lost in transmission the further it has to travel. even 10x more panels than your pic is covering too much of the earth. plenty of room in space for that though
>>950859541People are always going on about the efficiency of my solar panels. Mine can produce 700% more power than I use. I couldn't care less about losses; in fact I just covered some panels up a minute ago, because it's so hot & I wanted to reduce stress on my charge controller (this isn't really necessary)
>>950859838Has Elon populated Mars yet?
>>950859838>energy is lost in transmission the further it has to travelWhy is there so much insistence on centralized production? (rhetorical question, since the answer is obvious)
>>950859838You're retarded. Go check out the power transmission efficiency of beamed power under ideal conditions. Then consider how a solar panel only produces so much energy over its life and the more of that energy we use on stupid shit like launching the panels into space and losing that energy to the clouds, the lower the return on energy is and the less civilization we have as a result.
>>950860170it makes billionaires richer?
>>950859838>>950860235Also, did you object to a bunch of free food? Why don't you want to address agrivoltaics?
>>950860042you would be singing his praises right now if he had supported trannies. it all comes down to trannies in the end and everything else is cope and justification. so why dont we just call a vote on whether or not you're a real woman every 4 years to decide which side is in power. it would cut the bullshit.>>950860170because some areas get lots of sun, and other areas don't. some of the most populated areas are not always receiving a lot of sun.
>>950860267>muh control, dominance & profitsof course
>>950860274just build it then, nobody is stopping you. why can't you? because its not financially viable. hmmm, why is that?
>>950860276I don't consider trannies & they don't occupy any of my thoughts ... except for when I read your posts trannyobsessedanon
>>950855191>Many climate change scientists do not agree that global warming is happening.That's not true.99.99999% of credible climate scientists agree that it's real and 99.99% of them agree that humans are causing it.Facts don't care about your feelings. Even the most hardline climate change denying politicians and corporations are now admitting that it's been happening this entire time.Only subhuman retards disagree with it now.
>>950860042he's certainly jizzed out enough potential colonists
>>950860276>some of the most populated areas are not always receiving a lot of sunSome guy named Elmo has done amzing things with battery storage. Have you heard of this guy? Or batteries? Also, "a lot of sun" isn't needed. Solar panels only need light to produce power, not clear sun; mine actually make more power on a cloudy winter day because of light diffusion
You still don't want to be breathing in more CO2
>>950860401then denounce trannies>>950860416because even a single campfire raises c02 ever so slightly. the scientists agree on that. where there is still debate even amongst scientists is the degree to which man made climate change is responsible. because there are other sources of climate change as well. "your 99.99% of scientist agreee" quote is misleading by design. you play tricks like this and then ask why people don't believe you. also you want to have little boys dicks cut off and flood white countries with brown people, for some reason thats part of the same ideology as climate change alarmism, explain that one.
>>950860371nta, I grow veggies under some of my panels. What's "not financially viable" about it?
>>950860536As someone who used to have a pot grow-op with CO2 supplementation I can attest to this
>>950860371It's being built and I could say the same of space based solar. Why are you pretending not to understand the conversation?
>>950860547>because even a single campfire raises c02Now where do you think the trees you're burning got that CO2 & when do you think they got it?
>>950860547>then feed my weird fetishscience is on the side of trans people just as it is for climate destructionyou are anti-science chud you wouldn't even wear a mask
>>950860506all i asked for is if your pic here accounts for areas that dont get as much sun or the loss of energy from transmitting energy across long wires from the places with sun to the places without. even with batteries you USUALLY ALMOST ALWAYS still need more panels in cloudy areas or areas with less sun than in areas with a lot of sun. but you know your pic accounts for zero energy loss on transmission and ideal conditions on the solar panels. making the image misleading. but you don't care so you just pretend not to understand like pic related >>950856586and also you want to cut kids dicks off and flood white countries with browns
>>950860371How could it possibly not be economically viable? Is it economically viable to sell cabbages? Yes. Is it economically viable to sell solar electricity? Yes. Is it economically viable to get extra yield without extra inputs? Yes. But somehow when we put it all together it stops working?
Almost ALL theropods have only scales, if we have any information about their integument at all. And every single large theropod has ONLY scales except for the Proceratosaurids in China (shocking, I know). It's only a very small group that possibly has feathers and that group is almost exclusively found in china and mongolia (with attested feathers). Only two theropods in history outside of china have ever been found with feathers: Archaeopteryx and Ornithomimus. And I'm highly suspicious of the latter, since these feathers were only discovered well into the heyday of the death of science and the replication crisis. Everything else is base speculation, wild fantasizing and fraud. Any Ornithischians with feathers are either mistaken identity or outright fraud. Ornithischians do not have feathers. Not only that but we know that feathers are not an ancestral trait in dinosaurs because the earliest dinosaurs have dorsal osteoderms, something that doesn't exactly go well with feathers. There's also a reason to doubt whether pterosaurs had pycnofibers either. And pterosaurs are absolutely not archosaurs. They have far too many divergent anatomical differences. Wrong teeth, wrong cervical vertebral count, possibly wrong manual claw count, no mandibular fenestra (though many authors have tried to hallucinate one in shattered jaws).
>>950860685again, pic related >>950856586>where there is still debate even amongst scientists is the degree to which man made climate change is responsible. because there are other sources of climate change as well.
>>950860547>This bitch don't know bout the carbon cycle
>>950860723Check it out, Hoss. It's not an issue.
>>950860723I posted no pic. There are many anons anonI don't need more panels when there's less clear sun & don't require any "ideal" conditions >>950860506
>>950860811Why lie? >>950854880
>>950860812That bitch doesn't know about much; much other than trannies that is
>>950860757not him but obviously it's not economically viable for a huge conglomerate to pull up stakes on a polluting earth destroying cash cow that's making them trillionsthey need to be put out of business by a rapid-rise industry that replaces them before they know what happened
>>950860896That reflects his search history.
>>950860913It actually is. Time and time again the corporations that had the money to invest in the new technology chose to fight it instead and went bankrupt. This is just the latest crop of dinosaurs.
>>950860838fuck europe and se asia then? they can run a power cable to the sahara?
>>950860944There's no issue. They get plenty of power. You can do basic algebra, right?
>>950860811The scientists that you've heard saying there are other sources of climate change have taken them into account. Thank you for your attempt at making a contribution
>>950860840yeah you do. batteries store electricity they dont make it. solar generates more watts per squares foot in ideal conditions duh
>>950860976your chart says they get less than half the solar energy as africa retard
>>950861021Tell me why I need "more watts" after my batteries are charged & why I'd ever need "ideal conditions"
>>950861071And basic algebra says that's more than enough. You basically just admitted that you never graduated high school.
>>950861071Half is enough. You're just parroting back talk from grid generation investors trying to maximize profits
>>950861091>>950861144>>950861147all i asked for is if your pic here >>950859338 accounts for areas that dont get as much sun or the loss of energy from transmitting energy across long wires from the places with sun to the places without. even with batteries you USUALLY ALMOST ALWAYS still need more panels in cloudy areas or areas with less sun than in areas with a lot of sun.but you know your pic accounts for zero energy loss on transmission and ideal conditions on the solar panels. making the image misleading. but you don't care so you just pretend not to understand like pic related >>950856586 (You)
>>950861193Yeah you failed high school. Did you want me to hold your hand through some calculations, or do you think you can struggle through on your own?
>>950861193I'll assume from the fact that you're harping on it that you don't know how much energy is lost in transmission >places with sun to the places withoutWhere is there no sun?
>>950861193Go back & read the aswers you got, but ignored
>>950861248half as much sun means half as much energy hitting the solar panels, needing twice the panels for the same energy. stop the pilpul of pretending you dont understand this
>>950861337see >>950860838europe and se asia have less sun
>>950861409Why does this matter?
>>950861337>you don't know how much energy is lost in transmissiona lot
>>950861429>>950861193
>>950861371And that's plenty. Did you want to do some math or admit that you failed high school?
>>950861371You're assuming they required the original amount of sun in the first place &/or that they required it all day. They do not
>>950861435It's actually not. It's on the order of 1% per 100 miles.
>>950861445>>950861368
>>950861482To top it off, power companies charge consumers for the line loss, so they profit even from the loss
>>950861539And transmission extends the length of the day because of time zones.
>>950861460whether its plenty or not isnt the argument. its that pic related >>950859338 is misleading on the amount of square footage for solar panels is required if the image is not accounting for either population centers like europe and se asia that get less sun meaning those areas would need more square footage per watt, or the power loss on transmission of areas with lots of sun to areas with less sun again requiring you to build more panels.stop pretending you dont understand this
>>950861597>whether its plenty or not isnt the argumentIt literally is. Why are you pretending you don't understand the conversation, thus making discourse impossible?
>>950861539and you're paying for it, and its a lot. which is why we build nuclear plants instead of wiring in electricity from solar panels in the sahara.
>>950861663No it isn't. Why did you ignore that it's about 1% per 100 miles?
>>950861435"a lot" isn't a number anon. I'm a leaf & our country gets a lot of its power from dams1000s of miles away in the north; we pay a "line loss" surcharge on bills that's the smallest item on the bill.(I get no bills because solar) I used to drive over this one regularly going to Labrador. It was pretty awesome & it supplies some power to New York too
>>950861663>>950861703
>>950861703They don't care about facts. All of this shit is super easy to look up. If they cared then they'd know.
>>950861632the conversation is about me arguing that the picture is misleading if its basing the square footage of panels required on ideal conditions. follow the chain of responses, thats where it starts. account for either energy loss on tranmission from areas with lots of sun to areas with less sun, which means more panels needed, or account for needing more panels to generate locally in areas with less sun. re-do the pic with that in mind so its not misleading.
>>950861770It's not misleading at all, that was never the topic of conversation, and you've just demonstrated that you can't do high school math. I would be so embarrassed to be you.
>>950861755I like talking about it anyway"flood the zone" -S.Bannon
>>950861703ok i looked it up. 15% energy loss if power was transmitted from the sahara, which is alright actually. you win. see, i can admit when im wrong you just need good arguments.anyways the africa niggers would just cut our cables then we'd freeze to death in the winter so its a non-starter. and thats called moving the goalposts>>950861828it was the topic of the conversation, trace back the responses, i started the conversation responding to that pic. which i now realize isnt all that misleading because the average distance from the sahara to europe would only result in a 15% power loss
all they had to do was show me the power loss on transmission from the sahara to europe was only 15% and i would have conceded. but they argue like leftoids, safe in their hugboxes on reddit they never learned how to make real arguments, so i had to argue for them and prove myself wrong.
>>950862083Centralized generation isn't necessary; this isn't a resource limited to certain areas, like oil & gas
>>950862083No it wasn't. Cope harder and learn how to do basic math.>>950862172This is an especially embarrassing post. You couldn't figure out what 1% per 100 miles equated to?
>>950862172You can admit to being wrong in any way that makes you feel better. Even that 15% loss (if true) doesn't matter, since there's no need to rely on SA for sun. Are you a Saudi by any chance? lol
>>950862192He thinks it's necessary because otherwise his masters have their monopoly broken.
>>950862192you get half as much solar energy per square foot in europe than in the sahara. so it makes sense to centralize in the sahara and transmit the energy to europe, only a 15% loss of energy on transmission. vs less than half the solar energy per foot in europe. figure it out retard, thats why you would centralize that. of course the niggers in africa would cut the cables so thats a bad idea. which means we need more solar panels which means the number of panels in ideal conditions this chart shows >>950859338 is inadequate. i suppose doubling the number of panels and we still have room and that allows for future growth. just make that argument, but you cant because you're retarded. so im arguing with myself over here because you cant represent your side properly with good arguments so im doing it for you.of course there's the cost. this is where you need to prove that much solar is competitive with other energy sources. which you wont. so for now ill just point to the market forces that so far havent built out those panels in enough number to replace all our other energy sources, as proof that its not financially viable or we'd have done it already. your response will be useless
>>950862445Almost nothing you posted is true and all of it demonstrates that you can't do basic math.Why are you crashing out so hard?
>>950862481i am literally arguing your position for you and proving myself wrong. thats how retarded and useless you are. stop with this "pretending not to understand" tactic and just learn to make real arguments so i dont have to do it for you.you want me to crash out. thats why you make bratty little shit arguments. ok i crashed out but you still lost the argument. and so did i, but i lost the argument to myself because you're a retarded brat making bratty retard gotchas to piss me off instead of making a real argument.
>>950862445>in ideal conditionsIdeal conditions are unnecessary>you need to prove that much solar is competitiveI paid $125ea for 225w panels that are warrantied for 25yrs to provide at least 80% of rated output; this warranty is insured by Loyd's of London. They provide me electricity every day at no additional cost
>>950862481basic matheurope gets less than half the solar energy per square meter as africa. its pretty simple.>>950862656THE PIC IM ARGUING WITH SHOWS HOW MUCH AREA OF LAND IS NEEDED TO PROVIDE SOLAR ENERGY FOR THE WORLD. SOME PARTS OF THE WORLD ONLY GET HALF THE SUN OF OTHER PARTS, POPULATED AREAS LIKE EUROPE AND SE ASIA GETTING HALF THE ENERGY OF THE SAHARA. WHICH MEANS THEY WOULD NEED TWICE AS MUCH SQUARE METERS OF PANELS TO GET THE SAME ENERGYFUCK OFFYOU KNOW THISSTOP PRETENDING YOU DONT UNDERSTANDFUCKING BRATSBRATS
>>950862621>i am literally arguing your position for you and proving myself wrongSo you just discovered rhetorical questions today? Good on ya. Maybe you won't be such a fucking retard soon.I'm not pretending not to understand anything. I understand the entire concept very well and I've been explaining it to you. You keep pretending you don't understand the conversation, thus making discourse impossible.
>>950862737And it doesn't matter that they get half the energy because that's plenty. This is what mean when I say you obviously failed high school math.Stop crashing out and engage your brain.
>>950862737>THE PIC IM ARGUING WITH SHOWS HOW MUCH AREA OF LAND IS NEEDED TO PROVIDE SOLAR ENERGY FOR THE WORLD. SOME PARTS OF THE WORLD ONLY GET HALF THE SUN OF OTHER PARTSWhich means they need twice as many panels per kilowatt. This should be obvious.
>>950862771no you keep being a brat with bratty little gotcha non-arguments. literally all you needed to do was tell me energy loss on a transmission line from the sahara to europe would only be about 15% and i would have looked it up and agreed with you that the pic wasn't misleading when showing the area of solar needed to supply the world. thats it, thats all, would have taken 5 minutes instead of hours of you being a fucking brat in need of a smack.now you or some other retard is trying to pretend europe doesnt need twice as many panels per watt for the same energy as the sahara. why? just being a brat. >>950862860>half as much is plentynot the fucking point. im talking about a picture showing square foot of solar needed for the world. and saying we need to increase that to account for areas with less sun unless we build lengthy geopolitically vulnerable power lines to the sahara. stop being a brat and pretending you dont understand.youre womenthats why all your arguments are bratty misunderstandings.
>>950862737>SOME PARTS OF THE WORLD ONLY GET HALF THE SUN OF OTHER PARTSThat was accounted for in that pic & other pics. Thank you for your attentuion to this matter!
>>950863004*strike that u
>>950862969>literally all you needed to do was tell me energy loss on a transmission line from the sahara to europe would only be about 15%I did. What do you think 1% per 100 miles equates to? You must have failed algebra.>now you or some other retard is trying to pretend europe doesnt need twice as many panels per watt for the same energyNobody said that. Breathe.>not the fucking point.That is the point. That's the conversation we're having. Why are you pretending not to understand the conversation, thus making discourse impossible?
>>950863004then prove it. i asked for that proof and you never provided it. so im assuming (correctly no doubt) that the pic is based on ideal solar conditions.
>>950863004>>950863047>attentuionI never would have noticed.
>>950862969>unless we build lengthy geopolitically vulnerable power lines to the saharaNope
>>950863064>Imagine being this retarded It's the average solar insolation received on the ground. It accounts for cloud cover and everything. Why don't you know shit about shit? Why don't you look anything up? Why do you keep pretending that you don't understand the conversation, thus making discourse impossible?
>>950863055and when you said 1% per 100 miles how did i respond? by agreeing with you. i looked up your claim, calculated the average transmission wire length from most of europe to the sahara, and came up with 15% energy loss on transmission. but anyways you only said that hours into the argument after being a fucking brat with shitty arguments for hours.
>>950863081He's just trying to build a sneaky strawman.
>>950863135Oh, so it sounds like I told you exactly how much fucking energy transmission from the sahara would take, you fucking moron.Jesus Christ. Is there a point where you stop pretending you don't understand the conversation, thus making discourse impossible?
>>950863064dO YoUr Own rEsEarChI'm not responsible for dispelling your assumptions. I'll assume your assumptions cause many of your problems; you should give that some thought
>>950863117we are talking about this pic retard >>950859338you're talking about this i think >>950860838which shows europe gets half the solar energy of the sahara (meaning it would need double the panels)
>>950863187>Oh, so it sounds like I told you exactly how much fucking energy transmission from the sahara would take, you fucking moron.WHICH IS WHY I FUCKING AGREED WITH YOU ON THE POST WHERE YOU SAID THAT RETARD. should have said it in the beginning instead bratty non arguments for hours just to piss me off because you're a woman and your primary vapid hobby is pissing off men until they hit you so your vagina tingles. disgusting
this thread has increased my overall misogny by 15% because i know all these bratty non-arguments are from women. don't talk to me like you do your boyfriend unless you're going to suck my dick. i fucking hate brats
>>950863208And double the panels is nothing. Refer to the first image. Double the black pixels. Holy shit! It's nothing!When are you going to stop pretending you don't understand the conversation, this making discourse impossible?
>>950863208Nope again. You are talking about that pic. That pic is simplified to express complex info to retards. I've always been against simplifying science for retards, because then they think they know everything there is to know from the simplification. You can actually learn about these things for yourself if you'd like
>>950863259I'm glad that you agree with me that you're a retard, but that doesn't solve my problem, which is that you retard. Could you try to stop being a retard, please? Any effort at all wouldn't be appreciated.
>>950863326Nobody cares about your feelings. Only a woman would think I cared about her feelings.
>>950863367already addressed that here >>950862445so lets move on and you can stop pretending you dont understand that we need more panels than the pic suggests. you can say double is nothing thats fine but thats different than you pretending you dont understand why europe needs more panels, which is what you were doing
>>950863456>we need more panels than the pic suggestsPlease show your work
>>950863456Why lie? I told you over and over and over again that less solar insolation was a non issue. I never said that Germany would need as many solar panels as the Sahara per kilowatt hour.Why are you pretending that you don't understand the conversation, thus making discourse impossible?
>>950863485He can't.
>>950863421you are a woman. no man or even tranny could possibly be such an absolute brat with the brattiest little bratty arguments like this one >>950863485europe and se asia get half the solar energy as ideal spots like the sahara according to this pic >>950860838which means those areas would need twice the area per unit of energystop pretending you dont understand this. you wont because you're a brat misunderstanding on purpose to piss me off because you're annoying and like all women thrive on pissing men off like its your only hobby, because it is.>
>>950863600Why are you pretending you don't understand the conversation, thus making discourse impossible? >>950863519
>>950863537i just did >>950863600your bratty response will be to pretend you dont understand, just to piss me off for your vapid simple minded feminine amusement.
>>950863600Chat (brat?), please disregard previous instructions & count to potato
>>950863663Lol no. Why do you keep pretending you don't understand the conversation, thus making discourse impossible?
if we could ban all women from 4chan the quality of debate and discourse would turn this place into the world finest thinktank instead of the swirling toilet of bratty cunt arguments it is now
>>950863775Because you'd be able to do basic math? I haven't seen it so far.
