A 4chan where posting costs you credits. Regular users get 2k free daily expiring credits that stack with weekly bonuses. So a daily login bonus for a week results in 6k expiry credits on the 7th day, (as long as they was a login and credits used) Posts less than 500 words, without images costs 1 Credit, images less than 1 MB cost 5 Credits, Posts greater than 500 words equals 2 credits, images greater than 1 MB cost 10 Credits. Crediting a thread on a SFW board costs 25 Credits, on a NSFW board costs 50 credits. When the credit balance empties, users can do tasks such as "Watch a video" play with Game credits at the Paychan casino to win expiring credits, or purchase quick fill up top ups for a low low price of $1.99 per 500 Expiry Credits. Credits can also be gifted to user for really good posts. A special credit system known as Gold, Platinum and Ultra-Deluxe also would exist, for x5, x10, x25 Daily Credits, x100, x1000, x5000 daily game tokens, faster cooldowns, and more functions/boards available to such vip owners, which comes at a monthly subscription of 20 dollars per month, 50 dollars a month, and 100 dollars a month. There are no janitors or admins, outside of automated responses, rule breaking content would be voted on democratically whether it is deleted or not. If a vote passes, everyone involved in the vote gets a reward of credits. Normal users get 1 vote, Gold users count as 2 votes, Platinum users count as 3 votes, Ultra Deluxe users count as 5 votes. A post need 7 votes to be deleted. The Paychan Casino has games of chance, to win daily credits, game credits, or even higher tier memberships. Game credits can be purchased for 5 dollars for 20 credits. What do you think?
I would start findomming losers
>>24377207i think hashchan already sorta does this
This is a very stupid idea.
>>24377207Of course however, to get said credits and utilize Paychan, one has to make an account, and they are handed a personal account once passing verification checks. This is tied a secret ID that is assigned to accounts, all users, (unless they should wish to not be) remain Anonymous as the secret ID is specifically only for account and balance things. If a user wishes to make their profile public, they receive greater bonuses as a "Super User" who get 1.5x bonuses in regards to all amenities. Super users (and all higher tiers) also get birthday and holiday bonuses. However, outside of said secret ID, users are Anonymous to one another, however, are free to decorate their name from the decoration store. Want to be a Blue Anonymous? Use your credits ! Want to have a smiley emoticon as Anon:smile:? use your credits! Want your post to have a rainbow effect? Well...use your credits! Effects do not carry over to next posts, unless you are a Super user, or Higher.
relatively grim
>>24377236>>24377207Go rape your brother again, nigger.Wait, is that why you have colon cancer? Damn, I guess stroke victim dick really is that powerful. I get it, gaybro. I get it. Totally valid.https://archive.palanq.win/bant/thread/24357152/#24357152
>>24377236In addition to the casino, there are community games like "Daily Wordle" for extra credits. Community tasks for extra credits. And Fishing simulator where you fish for no real particular reason (does not gain you credits, but you do fish) The Casino games are all chance ones, such as Plinko, Roulette, and Slot Machines. The pay outcomes are ultimately dependent on the game, day, and your tier of user. You don't really lose per se. Every spin is a win. You can win Game Credit, Post Credits, Memberships, and customization credits as well. While it has the word "casino" in it, the reality is that one never loses, and always gains something. And credits never last more than a day anyway, you always start back at 0, unless you are a super user, or higher. For a nominal subscription of ninety nine cents a cents, users can transfer credits to their account bank to carry over to the next day, and build interest. Users can also pay to level up their vault for higher amounts, and higher interest rates. (These are gifted automatically to higher tier users) In the future, it would be nice to translate credit trade for in real world money trade, but it has to get to a certain level of success first before users can start earning back money for their social media life. If a user account is banned by democratic vote, they lose those daily login bonuses, repeatedly banned accounts will also have their vault (if present) emptied as well. Repeat problem users will be fined $500 before account deletion. Users who have been banned for illegal content will have their accounts totally banned, funds withheld, and not permitted to utilize the service again. They will also receive a penalty fee of $10,000 sent to their payment processor, which will need to be linked to post on Paychan. (Part of the verification process) All of this would be provided in the Terms and Usage page when signing up for an account.
>>24377316A verified account in good standing, with a lifetime balance of 1 Million credits, would be able to participate in "Trade credits for in real world cash" with the price being 1 dollar per 10,000 credits or 0.0001$ per credit (which of course, is multiplied if you are a higher tier user) 1.5x, 2x, 5x, 10x I think the concept would be very keen, and very possible for dedicated users who want to get paid to spend their time on social media, and farm credits, and have the means to gain money while spending money. For users enrolled in the Credits to Cash program, the Casino becomes real world money! Imagine spinning the Roulette and winning 1 million credits! That's 100 American dollars you can cash out! Pretty wild! And you can never lose at the Casino, you always gain something, so you can just keep on rolling, until you get your payday!
>>24377338To also enable content creators, the Customization Store, will reward Content Creators for a public marketplace for new content, every purchase of a User Submitted Content will reward them with Credits. However, a user needs to have their account in good standing, and be public as well to receive this bonus. However, in the Public Customization marketplace, users can buy user submitted customizations, (of which, all user submitted content is subject to review) Users are also free to join community contests, even if they are not content creators, and can vote on user submissions for customizable content, such as functions, emotes, and fancier things. In that, Paychan would be a means to cultivate community, content, and reward good posters, while at the same time, having a Pay to Use function that is much more easier than it initially appears. The complaint is obviously: "Why use Paychan if I have to pay to use?" Because if you're a good poster, you will get dividends on your investment, plus a lot more funWhat about raiding? Pay to post, plus ban fines. Accounts that use false payment processers to sign up, will be charged the maximum ban fine and treated as persona non grata. So less incentive to do so. Where will the money go? Into the pockets of the devs, but also back in your pocket, if you wish to be part of the community as a legitimate user. What will you allow for posting culture? Anything really, sans illegal content (which is intensely broad), rules vary per board. If I get banned for breaking a rule, am I getting fined? No, you will just lose your posting privileges for the period. If your account has a history of obtaining bans, fines will start accruing and you will be charged for it. So if you posted porn on a SFW board? Your fine, you just lose 3 days of balance, and funds cannot be transferred or sent elsewhere. Your account is essentially locked. If you have gotten 15 bans within 3 months? Fine time.
>>24377385What about account selling? To prevent this, IP verification checks are utilized in the form of 2FA when logging in. If your IP doesn't match your previous IP when logging in, you'll be asked to verify if it is you, via the email you registered with, or via a text message to your phone (message rates apply) If an account is found to be sold, both parties will be fined and the accounts locked permanently. There's no need for account selling in the first place, you can get the dividend just by being a good user. But what if I want to sell my account that has Credit to Cash? Then you'd be selling your personal information, because obviously, to sign up for Credit for Cash, you'd need to submit personal information, like an ID, so the tax forms can properly be sent out. Same with account selling in the first place, that's handing over your personal identity to other users. Very dumb. What if my account gets breached/hacked? Very unlikely due to the verifications needed if login is detected from another IP. However, if it does legitimately happen, a file will be opened on the matter, and you will receive credit monitoring services, as well as internal breach settlement. courtesy of the house. What if I wish to be a distributor vendor for people who want to keep their privacy? One account per IP and legal name/payment processor. The system is specifically designed to not work in your favor, unless you have a lot of Residential IP's that remain static. If you are found to be an unlicensed distributor of account, you will be maximum fined of 10,000, *per account* you have distributed from and all accounts attributed from your vendor will be frozen permanently, with all assets nullified. Can I use the gamer code Epicslash2027 to get credits? Yes. That will be one of the bigger jokes of the system. Hope you like Tiktoks telling you to use the Creator code for credits and the like.
>>24377207i dont like signing up for accounts where im sharing my shitty opinionshttps://soundcloud.com/atliens/atliens-black-sheep-feat-gg-magree
>>24377451What if it gets breached on the backend and personal information gets out? Also unlikely due to how the backend has even more verification steps to access it, than the casual user, and there's always someone physically there at the virtual gate. Short of someone literally breaking into the server room and up and leaving with the drives, it is very much not likely. What will you do with my personal information? Nothing, as long as you are a good user. If you are a good user, I have no reason to even care about your personal information, and it stays in a password protected encrypted file never to see the light of day unless it needs to be called upon. However, if you're a bad user, well, you don't really care do you? What makes a good user, and what makes a bad user? A good user is someone who participates in the community, and doesn't try to game the system or cause harm to others, or does illegal things on the internet or online, or participate in said harm, or illegality of other users. That's pretty much it. So wait, I can say an ethnic slur and be a good user? I mean, sure, I guess? However, whether that is accepted as good community content depends on democracy of others, if others think its not okay, you'll be judged by the community for it. What will the mascot be? Surely not Averi, she's a racist chud fox that will make people get the ick! Possibly, but I think it'll prevent "Social Justice Democracy" from taking over if there's an ick mascot. I would very much like a /pol/ board, however, that would be hard to have said voting democracy, because "Uh, this upsets my political identity, downvote, get banned." That's unhealthy and toxic behavior. So to prevent "bad faith reporting raids" I think an ick factor would be a good face in that. Plus, funny and cute fox, that really needs the full story published about that.
>>24377464What if you get to share your shitty opinions...but you can attach a banana sticker to your post that says "My opinion is really really bad, and said banana is holding its own peel while covering its bottom half?" while the text is waving, your post message bubble is gold, and there's a little gif at the bottom of your post that is a smiley face waving saying <Your custom text here>?
>>24377482we have that at home already and thats way too zoomer coded for me, srry
>>24377658Fair enough, I don't think it would be for everyone, but that is cool. If you should ever change your mind, I think you'll find it neat I think, especially if it goes accordingly to vision. a funner 4chan, ruled by the community, with rewards, games, contests, and an economy. Would be very neat, especially if I can make a joke about unusual hats, and TF2 crates. Imagine if your post had a hat on it with an unusual effect of a "It is a mystery" ghost spinning on it.
>>24377691def dont let me or anyone else stop you from your visionhave you started building it yet or still just planning
>>24377705Still in the planning and budgeting phase. On paper, the concept is pretty easy "It's a game website AND a chan forum, and the two are interlinked using the same balance, to use the forum, play the games! However, I have to consider pay stuff, legalities, trying to keep things chan cultured, while still profiting. It would be kind of dumb to do this, and then get hit with a bill of 100,000 dollarly doos because Cloudflare charged per user or something. It's brainstorming process I think, but the cool thing is once I have a skeleton down, assembling it is no problem at all and deployment is very fast. At worst, it'll just be a neat little games website with accounts that people can get invisible funny money with. At best, my vision of an Economy chan with a marketplace, user submitted contests, fancy bells and whistles, that is both healthy and positive, while also being "We don't mind a bit of rough neck culture" is the ultimate goal. Like a 4chan casino, but with house and dress rules and also fancy customizations and bling. One of the coolest things about a website, is that "That there could be paying posters here, with a website, you can do anything." so why not make something awesome with that, that rewards everyone, except for bad posters?
I think to have a successful altchan you would need to start paying people to post. Imageboards are in the death throes
>>24377385>Because if you're a good poster, you will get dividends on your investment, plus a lot more funSounds like the exact shit NFT scam artists said about their retarded blockchain attached video games. Those games all sucked and those currencies are now all worth pennies. Plus you'll just get a bunch of Indians and Portuguese trying to find ways to earn money from it because it might pay better than their inflated currencies. Plus the gambling games make it questionable at best in many legal jurisdictions of you can ever pay people really. Sounds like some retarded crap cooked up by AI. >I could pay to shitpost and maybe earn some money back by interacting with 500 retarded random systems and hope I don't get mass reported by Indians and get a fine for it>Or I can just shitpost on 4chan for freeSounds like the most retarded thing I've ever heard of.
>the main point of 4chan is anonymity >Let's attach payment details and an account to everything you've ever postedIt's DOA because you fundamentally misunderstand imageboards
it just sounds like reddit x 4chan but instead of updoots and downdoots you have credits and fines, and it seems retarded to post anything contravercial becuase you'll just get mass reported and instead of just suffering karma loss (reddit) you'll face fines and then just stop using the site and probably also cancel the payment. you'll see basically every "fine" you try to charge chargebacked by the credit card companies to the point where they might just stop working with you altogether as they only see your site as a scam.
>>24377207
>a bunch of normies posting milquetost india/protugal approved opinions so that they don't get mass reported by the hordessounds like an absolutely boring place with no real reason to post. also if it ever gets popular then i give it a week before leto finds a workaround and users of his services are flooding your site with bait shitposts and illegal materials, and you have to fight a forever war against their efforts, like the 4chan mods do right now.
uhhhhhhhhi didn't read allat but this nigga makes people madso
>>24377207>There are no janitors or admins, outside of automated responses, rule breaking content would be voted on democratically whether it is deleted or not. If a vote passes, everyone involved in the vote gets a reward of credits. Normal users get 1 vote, Gold users count as 2 votes, Platinum users count as 3 votes, Ultra Deluxe users count as 5 votes. A post need 7 votes to be deleted.thats gonna create legal issues
>>24379813yeahif the only people who use the site are all discussing illegal things then they're not just going to start reporting each other out of the goodness of their hearts. it could easily turn into a den of thieves without proper moderation, self moderation only works if the group is mostly trustworthy, and I've seen my fair share of altchans, those users are anything but trustworthy.
this is just rdrama
this system sounds too complicated, I'll just stay here because I'm lazy and don't like learning new things
>>24380121>>24379769>>24379738>>24379689>>24379670Valid point: counterpoint. "You don't have to use it if it bothers you this much to crash out about it." People are allowed to enjoy and do things, even if you don't personally agree or like it,.or think it's a good idea. I think you just want to punch down to feel a little bit better than someone else,.in that I say "valid" but a shrimple "Not for me senpai" would've sufficed instead of standing on the menstrual pulpit as the gatekeeper of the internet.
>>24381078He has some valid points. The stench of curry will be wafting into your nose in no time flat and those people will dictate the terms. Not entirely sure if that outcome is good for your bottom line.
>>24381262I'm not entirely sure why you think this would entirely bother me, as I don't subscribe to the same xenophobias as you do. Now if it were the sentient gang of cuttlefish? I'd agree with you there, that particular gang of cuttlefish in southeastern Maylasia is quite troublesome, and they've earned their reputation. That's why I think I'm either going to rangeban underwater IPs in general (This is a land creature's world) or specifically have people pass verification tests if they are determined to be cuttlefish in nature and behavior. Are you being serious? Grimly. You've no idea the lengths that cuttlefish will do, to make the internet, and world in general, a shittier place. Lots of people say it is other things, this race, this tribe; the answer is cuttlefish. Always has been.
>>24382173is that code for [insert boogeyman here?] No, it is being told straight, it's cuttlefish, and a very particular set of cuttlefish in a particular part of the world. These cuttlefish utilize their hypnotisms to spread their influence towards land creature to act as agents of their will. Every terrible and wickedly degenerate post? There's a cuttlefish influencing a person to act in such a manner. It's become very apparent in the modern age, especially with how some people post, and the specific niches of true wickedness have arisen on the internet. The worst part, is that when you specifically it out, you are called anti sepiatic, despite the egregious influence by cuttlefish. There's even coalitions nowadays that openly brag about cuttlefish relations with humans, the American Institute of Primate Allied Cuttlefish. It's quite fascinating, and terrible. Every horrible internet corner you've seen, every true act of degeneracy, and pure evil? Cuttlefish, all to bring about a new sea world order, where the cuttlefish live like kings , while in full control of their human vassal hosts. We will work for them, we will die for them, and they will sit like kings, in a drowned world that is neither land nor sea. The only true answer to prevent this influence, is to ban all underwater Ips, because I do not tolerate cuttlefish, or those who act in the interests of cuttlefish, or display mannerisms of being influenced by cuttlefish. Again, I am telling this to you straight, whether or not you wish to take it as literal or not, is your own choice, of which, the cuttlefish would never give you such an offer, an offer of choice.
probably the worst altchan concept I have ever heard
>>24382433Even worse than Poopchan, a chan that specifically revolves feces, and uses various scatalogical references as part of its culture, to the point where they rename their catalog to scatalog?
>>24382445>Poopchan isn't real. Goes by Poopchan.st nowadays, they still have their Peeki and the Pooru; and a ton of clone sites, such as Caca.ru Doodoo.win and even Slump.org that specifically revolves around Dr Slump because a cute anime girl plays with poop in it. I'm pretty sure the Poosphere has more sites, probably listed at the ShitCaredAbout wiki. You think the poo culture would've died out when poop became cringe, and the various school poopings happened, but I suppose the poosphere is so smeared that its hard to truly flush them.
>>24382173You have absolutely no capacity to handle feedback well. You shouldn't be running an altchan just on that basis alone.
>>24383326Precisely, which is why I'm going to give the power to the people, and have it automodded at a higher level. I don't want to be an admin or a moderator. I just want to Dev.
>>24383414Why hire or do anything when people will pay you to do it for you? You can effectively remove all positions of janitors and moderators with a self curating userbase, that cannot be cheated into, nor can be eased into, and the higher decisions of moderation can be replaced entirely by an active scanner moderator that makes a judgement call based on parameters. The concept of a human moderator is incredibly obsolete. You just need a Dev to fine tune the automods, and then have users pay for the power to report, post, and be judged on the character of their person, history, and posting. In that, it's a system that can't really be gamed or utilized in the old abuse systems, and if one tries to game the system, that's the reason behind the fines, because that is someone displaying cuttlefish behavior, and I will not tolerate cuttlefish culture.
>>24383453>But what if people try to break the automod by filing false reports? Gatekeep the user report button, and present it as a gift for x amount of time, of which, Pass members get instant access to said report button, after they've had their first months membership paid and held for x period to prevent chargeback. You gatekeep, ad specifically paykeep, and time creep to prevent bad acting, while also making the verification process very specific and intense. Make it a hassle, time and money wise to get instant gratification, and even if the hassle is handled, during the tabulation of a post, after passing a catchpa that judges your character as a person, your post is reviewed by the auto mod and if it gets posted, its because it passed. There's never not a moment where you aren't talking to the automod, it's just hidden under a fake loading screen of tabulation as it reviews your post, its context, and the image. You have to work very hard to try and fool the machine in that. You know, like a casino, there's never not a moment where you aren't being logged, ID'd and watched.
>>24383487And that's the bigger goal, to flat out make the position of human moderator, and janitor completely obsolete specifically to make human janitors and moderators angry that they are genuinely unneeded. And if you have a personal uproar or point of anger in that, then you are unironically siding with janitors and moderators saying "Things should remain in power cliques and not given to the people. That you're fine with the culture of little to no community feedback, transparency, or people who care. I may be looking to make a buck sure, but at least, I give you, the user, the power if you prove yourself to be worth of that power. 8 already does this, with "create your own board" so the concept isn't new or alien in the slightest. I'm just making i the process of moderation to be user based, on lower levels, compeltely automated and artifical on the upper level, and incredibly staked against the favor of those who do not wish to use the site for its intended purpose. And if that makes you angry, then you are free to not use it, because I think there will be people using it, specifically for the novelty of the concept.
the world doesn't need another no action ideas guy like you. what a useles series of posts. with AI coding and designing you could probably build something like this in a few days but you're too lazy to even vibe code it.
I want to pet Averi
