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If you are athletic, have a decent amount of muscle mass and low body fat and your wife is skinny and conventionally attractive there's a high high chance you will NEVER end in a sexless marriage Most marriages that become sexless it's because one of the partners (perhaps both) let themselves go and they are now fat, ugly or with health issues. Ask yourself. Are you hot? Are you healthy? What about your partner? If you are obese and look like shit or your girlfriend hormones are all fucked up and she looks like a sausage no wonder you aren't getting horny

>>24398098
fornication is evil.

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>>24398098
No, it’s not evil.

Maybe to some fundamentalist religions it is, but ask yourself, do they do good works or are they indeed the ones who bring evil to the world?

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>>24398101
>Dumb bitch has problem caused by x
>Dumb bitch responds to problem by increasing x

I loathe my potential future marriage

>>24398098
I dont understand being too tired for sex. Just lie there and feel good for 40 seconds

>>24398098
>I have to work all day for my bitch wife at home who doesn't even cook everyday to bitch and moan about doing laundry once every week

>>24398101
Bet she'll still insist on taking half his shit during the divorce.

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>>24398101
My LTR became an absolute lardass, and I lost interest myself. Absolutely intolerable woman. I've had chances to go back to her. I just can't though. She's a repulsive barren obese fat blob with PCOS, on top of being materialistic, and a nightmare she-neet to live with. Why couldn't the dumb whore just not make every day into a miserable hell.

>>24398100
Well it did produce you

>>24398103
Never seen a bad student? Gets a bad grade, feels like a failure, then instead of studying plays videogames before the next test. That's just normal. Brain avoids unpleasant things, while seeking pleasant things. That's why being a winner is easy, while stopping being a failure feels impossible.

No reason to have a girlfriend if she won't fuck you.

>>24398098
>letting her turn you down
unless it's a once in a blue moon type thing then your relationship is functionally over
once this starts happening and you just accept it, it's over

>>24398109
>Never seen a bad student? Gets a bad grade, feels like a failure, then instead of studying plays videogames before the next test.
This was me at university lol

>>24398103
She took the blackpill

>>24398098
>feeding kids takes 15-20 minutes and is nowhere near as retarded as that video makes it look
>manual washing of dishes even though every modern house and apartment has a dishwasher
>scrubbing floor takes 10 minutes
>throwing laundry in takes 5 minutes
>putting kids to bed takes 5-10 minutes
>she is exhibiting complete exhaustion after less than an hour of work
>omg I can't lie here and be given an orgasm by my adonis husband
I hate this garbage.

women are inherently miserable

Hello OP you are a nigger. I just came here to turn your thread into a therapy session.

My hot skinny nerdy zoomette gf moved out of my big boomer house while I was at work and utterly devastated me and ruined me and now I feel like a dead person walking around haunting everything.

I fucked up so bad with this one, boys. Im a bald old ugly poor faggot nerd and its never going to happen for me again. She was too perfect and I think at this point I should probably kill myself. Feel free to respond to this gay fucking effort blogpost to tell me to kill myself, I could use the encouragement.

She was the perfect combination and played music and games with me and the sex was whenever and however I wanted. She really enjoyed anal but honestly I didn't.

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>>24398098
You're supposed to have sex in the morning

>>24398101
kwab

>>24398107
Why were you with her in the first place and why didn't you do anything to avert that development? I continue to just shake my head in aghast bewilderment that so many here who talk so much about alpha maledom and traditional sex roles don't have the balls to assert dominance over a woman and make her a good partner for them. I did this and my wife is grateful for it, and despises women like what you describe.

>>24398116
>She really enjoyed anal but honestly I didn't.
How big of a dildo was she using on your ass?

>>24398107

checked, i know the feel.
my wife gained a lot of weight, stopped doing chores, and has bad hygeine. It's actually mind boggling my current situation. I'm down to try to improve things, but in my mind, sex is a huge part of that. And it's like... idk if she's too retarded to think about that. Or she just doesn't care. I've made a couple advances recently, and been in 8th grade level netflix and chill "cuddling". Which I don't mind, but she's just not into it, and i've viewed her in such a negative light given her weight gain and hygeine, and not cleaning anything in the house... like... in my mind I'm holding most of the cards. Actually insane. Plus I've made gym gains, so there's that. I'm ripped... girls look at me in public, and I'm getting rejected by a plapper in my own house.

my son also had sex recently (gf parents snooped on phone), so I have to think about the fact taht not only am i not having sex, my kid has had sex.

>>24398114
Woman are the weaker vessel for a reason.

>>24398098
Even in cartoons the absolute mid is coupled with a giga chad.

>>24398101
>bf tells her shes gotten too fat to still be hot
>I turned it around and gained 20lbs more the next year

lmao wtf. Who reacts to getting told that they are fat...by getting even fatter. What the hell

>>24398121
If your wife hasn't suggested or initiated sex in a long time ive got some bad news bub....

>>24398107
Wait what are you dating a wookie?

>>24398103
Just don't marry a dumb woman then. But I can already see you are incapable of that .

>>24398101
>hlf30s
acronym for 30yr old female, but what's "hl"?

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>>24398098
I’d totally let my wife peg me

That’s the secret to on demand sex, anon. That and eating pussy

>>24398116
Don't kill yourself anon, there are more zoomers turning 18 every day.
Also, they'll never be marriage material, they just want to use your resources and piss off daddy for a while, I felt the same when my gf who was 14 years younger than me dumped my ass for being sad about the death of a close family member.
Live for yourself. Enjoy your nerdy hobbies, maybe start a new one, look for a new job, idk? Find some way to find meaning in yourself, because a woman won't ever really add to your life, she'll just take away from it.
I believe in you anon. You can do it.
Also, personal advice: find Jesus. It worked for me, might not work for you. I'll pray for you buddy.

>>24398116
you’ll find another; it’s just a woman. Test her and see if she has any friends interested in living in a boomer paradise cash free

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>>24398098
She’s property of bbc and you would be getting sloppy seconds. While you’re at work she’s getting spitroasted by Tyrone and DeShawn.

>>24398103
Thats not women exclusive behaviour, thats adict behaviour and it runs in both sexes, how many alcoholic men drink themselves from normal life to homelesness even when they are fully aware its destroying their lifes? Do you believe junkies doing smack dont know the needle is going to send them to the grave? Many people realize they are adicts but they simply cant stop themselves, modern day slaves.
30 lbs on 3 years on a woman isnt stresses, is food adiction, at least she is aware overeating is her coping mechanism so thats something.

>>24398098
Remember this when the government tries to draft you to die in a war against your will while your girlfriend gets to sit on her ass all day back at home and binge watch Netflix.

>>24398128
half-life
I mean, they're both 30...

>>24398107
Same. Mine was a drunk, not a fatty, but otherwise the same story.

>>24398131
text not test

>>24398107
>My LTR became an absolute lardass
Same but she has a good personality at least

>>24398121
so who cares if your son had sex it’s not a fucking competition. Don’t be a simping loser simple as that no girl likes losers regardless of their weight

>>24398098
Yes you are. Fornication is a sin

>>24398121
>in my mind I'm holding most of the cards.
sweet summer child
you're married with a kid
what are you gonna do, divorce her?
lose the house, half your shit and have to pay alimony?
she stopped putting out because she doesn't have to anymore

>>24398116
Whatever you do, do not reach out to her. Go no contact, block her and delete her number/contact info/socials. Throw away/delete all pictures and any other memorabilia that is tied to or reminds you of her. Delete her completely from your life and you will recover faster than you think. If she moved out so suddenly and without warning for no reason like this she might've even been BPD, which sounds like you dodged a bullet in the long run.

>>24398120
I knew someone would say this, thank you.
>>24398130
Thanks, leaf. Christ is very important to me but I dont live it. We weren't married and I nutted in her 300 times and no babies. I think thats why I drove her away at the end, I was afraid she was barren because she took the vaxx. She was severely libtarded but I had her saying nigger fairly quickly.
>>24398131
Checked and this is one of the only things keeping me going: there are more of them and theyre ALL BROKE RETARDS THAT WANT DADDY TO CHOKE THEM. But I honestly do love her so im in hell lmao

>>24398114
Yeah they always perceive themselves as burdened even when being asked for nothing. The whole "I carried a baby for 9 months!" thing is the same bullshit.

>OP is a faggot
probably, but that's not the point. if your gf/wife isn't gagging for your cock constantly that's on you, simple as

>>24398121
have you tried cheating? make sure to own foreign assets before you do this

>>24398114
>feeding kids takes 15-20 minutes
Kek, you never had a kid or you terrorise them, that's cool bit they will kill you in your sleep one day.

>>24398121
>my son also had sex recently (gf parents snooped on phone)
make a huge deal about this, maybe even get the police and lawyers involved since after all the gf parents have now violated your son's privacy and if he's a minor it's a sex crime. Your wife will get turned on as shit women get hot exercising power over people and ruining lives

>>24398143
you fucked a vaxtard? you're cooked cunt, may as well find that bridge the trannies like jumping off

POST IT

>>24398128
huge lady?

>>24398098
Women acting like looking after a house in the age of washing machines is difficult.

>>24398098
If you do and she doesnt, you're not compatible

>>24398147
>you terrorise them
You don't employ discipline. You have your own consequences to look forward to.

>>24398142
Thanks but there was warning: she gave me a few of them. I became severely verbally abusive at the end, I think because of her lack of fertility. I've been tested and my swimmers are better than good. She would hit me sometimes but i think thats funny, she's just a woman. I also do think she has some things resembling BPD but so do I and im pretty sure its just a very deep trauma reaction. Its all fucked. Im not the good guy. Im also not the bad guy. That's not the point though. She threw it all away over fights that we agreed to work through and the fact that I dont let her stupid dog on my couch.

She also told me the night before when we had a fight that "this is why women choose the bear" and it horrified me. Like I had been living with and dating and loving a fucking REDDITOR this whole fucking time. It was shocking.

>>24398149
Bro the sexual risks I've taken are astronomical. They defy reason. Im lucky i am relatively unscathed from my chadlier days.

>>24398154
This, to be desu. When I was young my mom would beat me with a fridge, one handed. I'm better off for it.

>>24398121
Sorry I am autistic.
Why don't you just tell your wife your complaints instead of dwelling on it for months or years? When I have dated before the very basis of the relationships was just to communicate issues instead of dropping hints because I am retarded when it comes to social queues. We have language yet from what I have seen in divorced couples is one party gets pissed about a topic and lets it fester then every argument compounds on itself and what started as unwashed dishes turned into a nasty divorce instead of someone just saying can you do the dishes.
Anyways, sorry if this is a stupid question. I just never have understood the zero communication method.

>>24398116
Why did she do that
Sorry bro

>>24398144
This whole image is just propaganda trying to make women hate the idea of reproducing.

>>24398128
high libido, I'd assume.

>>24398147
I really wonder how shit the food has to be for feeding a kid to take a long time, in the wild they fight over scraps because food isn't guaranteed.
It's the most unnatural thing in the world for a kid not to eat and people really have to think about WHY they're feeding their kids flavorless lean meat or goyslop ground seed heads.

>>24398155
>that I dont let her stupid dog on my couch.
mind-blowing pettiness of both retards in this "relationship"

>>24398156
nothing like fucking a vaxtard to ensure you die prematurely. you may as well of fucked trannies, niggers and faggots at the monkey pox parade

>he thinks sex exists
When will this meme die?

Sex does not exist. If you THINK sex exists, you are a retard. WHO in their right mind would get naked in front of someone else, put the 2 nastiest parts of their bodies together, and then proceed to perform animalistic positions? You would have to be mentally ill to do such a vile act.

EVERY human being on this Earth as we speak is a """virgin""" because sex is a product of our imagination. The nonsensical notion that sex exists is beyond me. Nobody has sex -- no one. Anyone who brags about having sex is a complete and utter liar, no ifs and/or buts about it. If you claim to have sex, stop saying that. We all know you're bullshitting for attention, and it makes you out to be an incredibly beta loser.

There is no fucking, sex, making out or anything of the sort, PERIOD.

>>24398148
kek
>oy vey I just get so hot and bothered by your legal maneuverings, oy rub my buddah belly honey, oh sweetie I'm gonna sue...
kek you sound so incredibly kike as hell rn suggesting that so immediately. I imagine normal people, just stifle a giggle if they learned their boy was boinking his girlfriend and it made them upset.
What a legal case. "You read her faceberg? One millions shekels dungeon!" Who knows maybe you will get your coin.

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>>24398165
This is a lot of effort for an unfunny shitpost

>>24398162
kids will not eat when it's eating time
then be hungry when it's bedtime
if you then feed them at bedtime, they will not sleep
if you don't feed them at bedtime, they will not sleep
you're just a retard

>>24398101
Yup, mhm, happened to me too. She got fat and her bodily hygiene completely tanked; there were strange odours, her tongue was always white, and when she'd ask why we didn't have sex anymore I couldn't give her an answer.
I just couldn't do it.
We broke up maybe 4 months later.

This was many years ago now and I'm reliably informed she ended up with a man of a similar size, who presumably didn't mind sleeping next to a stinky fatso.

Don't settle for women that don't meet your standards, younger anons. And always make your health a priority.

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>>24398098
No? Women don't have to do shit when it comes to shit like that. Just put them in prone-bone position and use them like a hole

>>24398099
Scientifically proven that women go frigid after marriage. Hotness is not a factor. They have to have sex when searching for a mate, but they universally slow down when that mate is secured.

That is why men are eternally dating - forces them to give sex instead of going frigid.

Reminder that celebrities and other HOT AS FUCK people have the EXACT SAME PROBLEM when married.

Also, it's fine for sex to drop off after kids are made. They suck energy right out of you. You SHOULD be fucking nonstop until that point though.

>>24398155
>"this is why women choose the bear"

She did you a favor telling you this. Hold on to her saying this to you for dear life, as it will help you through this phase of going No Contact/blocking/deleting her. You were dating a facade, as you correctly pointed out, and its good that you realize this now instead of further on down the line if you guys were to get deeper into a relationship. There's also a great Youtuber also called OlderBroSays that gives great advice on going (and MAINTAINING) No Contact, and why its important hold your ground and to not give in, and how to have self-respect for yourself while going through this phase. I highly recommend you check out his stuff, he got me through a rough breakup myself and I successfully pulled through on the other end (not affiliated, just trying to help).

>>24398098
we invented all this bullshit to make housework easier and women still complain lol

there is no making them happy

>tfw happily married and trying for our first child
It really is like catching the last huey out of Saigon

>>24398168
boohoo cry about it?
>I raised my kid on slop food and have set bedtimes and make them sleep when they're not tired
boohoo cry about it, once again?
>Kids are like tomogachis I need to micromanage when they eat and sleep and shit and
uhhhhh, boohoo cry about it?

Strange my cat never has these problems, chickens and pigs never do, humans in the wild never do, actually it's only these modern humans which somehow these problems all magically pop up.

>>24398175
>cat
>chickens
>pigs
yeah, stick to your level
don't ever have kids
retard

>>24398176
>I'm gonna ignore the part about natural humans because then I can emotionally react

>>24398158
Fat bitter women are defensive
If you try to approach them in any sort of kindly fashion and express yourself in a non insulting or volatile way, they will
>a. Become defensive immediately as if they had been waiting for you to make the slightest complaint
>b. Appear to genuinely engage what you're posing but very quickly turn it into "what you don't understand about mE" type of situation where they will gaslight and try and weasel out by narrowing down your concerns to arbitrary specific circumstances like say, "it was just that I had my period last week, that's why" or "I've been really busy this week in an attempt to hand wave away your issues"
>c. Act straight up insulted as if they thought everything was fine and you out of nowhere have come up and insulted them while making demands

>>24398098
>not even married and already sex blockade
she doesn't find you attractive bro, she's just in it until she finds someone better

>>24398099
Underrated post

>>24398098
What is the point of having a gf that doesn’t even want to have sex with you?

>>24398177
I'm gonna ignore a strawman yes

>>24398171
>Hotness is not a factor
Hotness is definitely a factor
+70% of the population in the USA is overweight or obese. Most people are ugly thus sexless once they settle down

>>24398183
>+70% of the population in the USA is overweight or obese
Eh based on BMI, BMI is pretty bad at determining if someone is overweight.

>>24398183
The most prolific couple I know are both hideous, he’s a fat manlet and she’s a hairy skinny big bird looking bitch. They have 7 kids. Ugly people fuck, anon.

>>24398116
If she was living with you there’s no way she just abruptly moved out without some kind of hint that was going to happen eventually

>>24398186
>If she was living with you there’s no way she just abruptly moved out without some kind of hint that was going to happen eventually
You'd think that but no it absolutely can happen. Just a complete blindside.

>>24398101
I'd be as hard as a donkey if my girlfriend gained weight, what a loser.

>>24398116
Lmao eat shit basedlennial nigger

>>24398098
Get a 2nd gf

>>24398098
?

None of those tasks are tiring at all

Washing dishes is relaxing lmao

>>24398098
Are you baiting, or did you force yourself on your girlfriend when she wasn’t in the mood?

>>24398179
Correct

>>24398159
We kept fighting because of stupid shit. I would ignore her and say horrible shit to her like shes worthless because she cant seem to get pregnant because shes a retard that took the vaxx. Also I wouldn't let her dog on the couch and I told her to never correct my speech when she got uppity with me because I called her tranny sister "she".

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>>24398107
mine was a drunk fatty
i know these feels brothers

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>>24398098
she's giving you an obvious reward structure and you should be thriving in it as a man. If she seems tired, you figure out why and you help in a way you can. If she is still like this when you feel like you're putting an effort in, thats when communication happens. Thats your key to talking to her in an honest way. Then you rail the shit out if her. Super fucking easy. The difficulty is when you find a woman who doesnt understand that with yourself. If you get frustrated or tired and she makes no obvious effort to understand why or what the issue is. Thats when you start beating her. Other than that, communication leads to the hardest sex ever. I fucking love my liberal wife. She is so fucking tight and I feel like I earn it every day from her. I love the smell of her on my beard at work. Eat that shit off of the bone after doing the dishes as is required of me, like a real man.

>>24398186
It was a blindside and it wasnt. There was an escalating pattern of really horrible behavior from me and she told me I scared her sometimes. I have an anger that mystifies me. I've been to jail. Im utterly devastated about my own behavior and I think I have to finally learn from this.

>>24398194
You fucked up. Do better next time.

>>24398192
what exactly is a gf for if not for exactly that? sounds to me like you bought yourself an expensive liability instead

>>24398196
>does dishes and eats pussies, thinks hes an alpha
get a load of this guy

>>24398197
you gave up the anal zoomette of. You said she loved it but you werent really into it. thats fucked bro. I wish my wife did anal as much as I love it. Give me her number and I'll try patching things up for you.

>>24398103
>>24398133
Generally the cycle is you do the destructive behavior because it soothes your stress, then having engaged in the destructive behavior and the guilt/shame around it makes you stressed, so you have to do even more of the destructive behavior to sooth that stress, ad infinitum. Negative feedback loop. You've learned a bad coping strategy and can't stop coping long enough to learn a good one instead. That's why usually it takes a hard crash; "hitting rock bottom" as they call it in the addiction business; to come out of it, since at that point you stop gathering momentum and are forced against all your will to face whatever demons you've been running away from the entire time.

This is an allegory for America's debt crisis.

>>24398101

>translation: im a superficial whore who is upset my superficial dickhead bf is being a superficial dickhead

>>24398158
As the guy who has been in that situation and did exactly what you think he should do, he would be teeing himself up for false abuse and sexual assault allegations.
>You want me to go to a doctor because I’m 25 and have no libido and you think that’s worrying?
>You’re a rapist sex pest!
Fuck that shit, divorce the lazy, fat bint, anyone who asks gets “irrevocable intimacy problems” as a result and go do something fun for yourself, you’ve earned it. If anyone tells you that you don’t deserve any sex at all, forever, while in a relationship, tell them to kill themselves straight to their face. The only time a guy should deal with that is if his wife was otherwise lovely but has stage 4 cancer or some other catastrophic l, imminent-death illness.

>be me horny
>gf tells me "no"
>lol wut?
>pin her down
>gf repeatedly cries "no!"
>fuck her anyway
>few days later ask her about it
>says she didnt really mean no
>repeat ad infinitum
thats all there is to it boyos, dead bedrooms happen due to failing that one test. hell just a few days ago around her ovulation she was telling me how she wants me to "rape" her again

>>24398101
>said he wasn't going anywhere
>she gained 20 more lbs
KEK

>>24398116
That's life. Most relationships end in divorce, eventually you'll get over the feelings of loneliness you just have to wait them out.

People are too quick to jump to suicide. Omg my girlfriend broke up with me brb killing self. Just hear how gay you sound and cut it out.

I left my ex wife because she's a bitch but then I got a couple rejections from girls I asked on dates and then got back together with my ex because it was easy and I felt defeated. In retrospect that was a huge mistake on my part. I should have just waited those feelings out.

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>>24398196
>she's giving you an obvious reward structure and you should be thriving in it as a man.
cuckold

>>24398098
My boyfriend is literally butt naked at the front door. Face down ass up when I open the door. White women will never reach his level of sexual availability.

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>>24398098
my ex was like this… didn’t work, always “too tired”, constantly behaved like she could do better. Meanwhile i’m
>early 30s CHADIMUS
>6ft
>ride motorbikes and train boxing
>gym 6 days/week, run 4-6km everyday
>85kg of lean muscle, 24.5BMI, 10% BF
>6 pack abs
>full head of hair
>gorgeous green eyes
>run a business
>consistently
And the bitch would carry on incessantly right up until she realised she had been replaced with a woman 10 years younger than her who wants to fuck my brains almost every day, as opposed to “duty/obligation sex” maybe once a month lmao. Women are fucking retarded, man, always looking over the fence at “greener pastures” despite being colourblind cunts

Just had to see which memflag you used, jew

Ain't funny some bioweapons are thinking that they are nigger like their hubby in this threads.

>>24398204
Yeah I just don't get it still. That seems like an issue you should sus out before marriage. If she has a melty when you ask her to do something basic while dating then she will be worse once you are legally bound.
I just do not understand how people live together for a couple of years and never have any slight argument then suddenly it appears after marriage. Again I am an autist and maybe am just oblivious but I have dated women for 2 years at the longest and it was obvious a few months in she wasnt marriage material but I just wanted a wet hole. Maybe most men fear losing hole access and fall for the marriage bait to try to keep hole access.

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>>24398098
>Am I evil for wanting to have sex with my girlfriend after a long day of work?
Yes. Having a girlfriend means that you're happier than many men. You're hoarding happiness. You're greedy. And therefore you're evil.

>>24398196
you have been trained like the fucking dog you are, cunt
>woof woof
Good boy! A special crumb of very average pussy for you

>>24398101
>erm, but it's the fags who are the degenerates
Straggots are insufferable. At least fags get (rightfully) jabbed when they do retarded shit in public. You will never see this couple get reprimanded for their behavior.

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>>24398208
bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark

>>24398101
>I(HLf30s)
The fuck does that mean? Are people so fucking lazy nowadays they can't type a few extra letters for context so that anyone outside of their retarded circle of drama queens can understand what they're on about? This phenomenon of abbreviating *everything* has to end.

>>24398188
Nigger

>>24398098
The only innocent people I cant hate at this point are kids and I refuse to bring one into this bloody toilet called reality.

>>24398196
She's probably not in the mood because she's having sex on the side

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>>24398185
Those are freaks
They don't represent the majority of the population in any shape way or form

Ever wondered why most people into bdsm, Polygamy and cuckoldry all are fucking hideous

>>24398098
if shes not giving you sex on demand as your girlfriend, its going to get way way worse when shes your wife.

leave her today. when she texts you "hey" in a few weeks, invite her over for a booty call and nothing else. kick her out after youve busted. do that again for a few more weeks. then once youve trained her to give sex on demand you can let her live with you again but minimize the time hanging out, doing nothing "being friends". you have to train her that when you're home, shes putting out.

i have a lot of experience in these matters. 4 kids and my wife still understands that the second they're all in bed, she's supposed to be sucking my cock. i wont give her any attention otherwise.

>>24398101
I have a positive story on this topic. After 4 years of being with each other my girlfriend and I both went through a period of massive life stressors and both put on a lot of weight. Our sex life dried up completely and our life was generally pretty shit. We lived like this for just over two years before our life circumstances got a little better.
As life got better I started working out again and stopped drinking and smoking. After I had started shedding the weight I started encouraging my partner to engage in healthy habits as well. We both ended up below our original pre depression weight and having sex regularly again.
Not all women are this cooked lads, there are definitely loyal, loving, hardworking ones out there that are receptive to feedback.
That period in time has left me with a permanent disdain for fat cunts as well as an understanding of why they eat. Without exception they are all deeply fucked up people that need intense counselling to deal with their demons.

>>24398213
>If she has a melty when you ask her to do something basic while dating then she will be worse once you are legally bound.
She never did this. She was basically obedient and had a libido even slightly higher than my own, and mine is above average. That bitch drained my balls for several years straight. Things slowed down when we moved from our respective parents’ houses together (this was also a high school sweetheart relationship and the oft desired “teen love”). I thought that was normal, it’d be too nice to have such a girl. She was my best friend for nearly 10 years, lots of shared hobbies and interests but she has some of her own.
The moment we got married all of her hobbies disappeared and turned into anime watching and doom scrolling Instagram. The moment we moved into a house, I cannot understate this, it was as if a demon killed my lovely wife and took over her body.
She suddenly hated children, wanted tattoos, wanted to dye her hair, started spending huge amounts of money with her friends, started spending way too much time texting a (boring and lame) male coworker, abandoned all of our shared hobbies, even her behavioral patterns were drastically changing. She used to always know where she was going but started to get lost driving places thinking she knew where she was going. Terrifying.
Women are fucking cursed. She either pretended to be a certain person for nearly 10 straight years and went full mask off within a a few months, a demon possessed her and I needed to call a priest, or she had a brain tumor or schizophrenia or something, but really all of her retarded desires and behaviors were exactly everything I’ve read incel posters, blackpillers, /pol/, etc. talk about.
If she waited to do that until we had kids, I would have caved her head in with a baseball bat. I think she knew that, so she waited for a house, the next best thing. I had the house sold and the divorce settled in under two months.

>>24398098
Men have needs. Women need to understand this.

I'm just grateful to have a girl. I used to be one of those 'forever alone' types.

>>24398225
So you married her before you lived together in an apartment or something?

>>24398225
Mine already came with dogs and tattoos and smoking and im still surprised that she skated on me in secret like Anne frank. I guess im retarded.

>>24398098
All that fucking shit shes doing takes like 2-3 hours tops. Cuntholes pretend basic adult responsibility is work. I guess it is hard work, for them.

>>24398101
>be man
>oh hey I put on 30 lbs
>time to hit the gym
>end up in best shape of my life

>be woman
>30 lbs? No problem
>30 more
>30 more
>noooooo, I'm sad now
>300 more

>>24398228
>>24398229
I married her while we lived in our first apartment.
To try to put it in a way that maybe some can understand just how dedicated this cunt was, she had (until the last major space exploration update) a 100% achievement rate in fucking Factorio.
I don’t fault anyone else for what they went through, every bit of research I did had everyone’s situation more obvious and grim and even then dudes would basically sacrifice their entire lives to suffering eternally (this is what at least some bitches want).

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>>24398231
im a man and did the bottom one. some people are just fucking dumb. im full whale mode now, too ashamed to leave my house just eating myself to death on pasta and red meat.

>>24398233
On the plus side you are probably muscular as hell under all the fat. You basically did the dirtiest of dirty bulks. If you start lifting weight and cutting calories you'll be head of other newbie lifters.

>>24398205
Yep I believe you are legitimately from Trinidad and not using a proxy.

>>24398135
so.. they're being stupid cunts failing at understanding the purpose of acronyms("hey, lets add superfluous letters because why not be dumbasses?!")

>>24398158
>Sorry I am autistic.
>Why don't you just tell your wife your complaints
I am also autistic, and I call women on their bullshit constantly when we're dating which is why I'm single at 38...
>>24398143
>Christ is very important to me but I dont live it. We weren't married and I nutted in her 300 times
I know that feeling brother, lmao. Been there. Living for Christ an actually taking the bible seriously helped me see where I had been going wrong. I'm sure there are men who can fuck without getting attached, but I'm not one of them (I hate to admit it, but I can be a real simp... ), so I am trying to go the proper christian route at this point, not that I have much hope of meeting a woman who is willing to do the same, but also doesn't view me as a meal ticket. If the Lord wants me to be alone, I'm ok with that.
That being said, was she on birth control or something? One of the things I respect about my zoomer ex was she told me the first time we fucked that a) she was on BC and b) If I did get her pregnant, she was going to abort.
Sometimes I wonder if she did get an abortion, but wasn't brave enough to tell me, there was a n "STD" scare near the end of the relationship that she stopped talking about really fast..

>>24398098
women dont do half that shit

>>24398168
>then be hungry when it's bedtime
rule with an iron fist on this one, it fucks up sleep and the next day that you'll be dealing with.

I have 3 kids, 5, 1, and 1 months. It's pretty easy when you set expectations. The hard part is when their mother doesn't have the same expectations.

>>24398208
Esther Vilar is a fucking hero for writing
https://libgen.com.im/book.php?md5=28f290c2c95a46156aa3c6ea5be6dc56.
Every man should read this book, it would blow their minds.

>>24398098
>>24398100
Inferior beings like you lastmen shouldn't breed. Only superior aryans (viltrumites) like me should be populating the world, the only purpose you all have is existing as genetic stock to prevent my new race from being inbred.

>>24398218
I think it's "High Libido female in her 30's"
for the record, I only used reddit back in 2016-2018 when the_donald was around, and only because the place I worked blocked 4chan on the wifi and I needed to get my shitposting fix in. Yes I am a faggot.)

>>24398239
Just put them to bed earlier. That's how I solved this with mine. Haven't had an issue about this in a long while.

>>24398103
>dumb faggot posts troonery in response to dumb slut story
Oh no!

>>24398098
Stay at home women lie about their amount of work.

I was a single dad. Had two kids with me full time starting at ages 6 and 9 and no family remotely close. I held down a full time job, their school, sports, making meals, laundry... all of it.
Still had some time chill by myself in the evening, re-charge my batteries.

Just bitching and complaining now as I'm pretty tired of how hard women think they have it..
They don't.
They will, very soon.
But for now its a cake walk.

>>24398237
>meal ticket
After our last fight and we were talking about deep shit I told her I wonder if she only sticks around with my bullshit because her and all her cohort are broke. She said lately, yes.

Bitches are losers. I love that loser bitch.

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>>24398099
truth
beaners know all about how this shit works
pic rel

>>24398098
Now imagine being married, and a 6 month old is part of the equation. And your wife is more affectionate, loving and kind to the baby than she's ever been with you.

>>24398100
>/pol/ is now mad about married people having sex
god, I hate this place

>>24398246

Kill yourself

>>24398203
tits + timesta... er... nevermind, we don't want to see your nasty fat bitch tits. Just stfu and gtfo

>>24398098
Yes. If you are a man wanting to have your needs met makes you an evil piece of shit.

You cad.

>>24398107
Have you tried administering beatings? Works wonderfully for me.

>>24398098
My wife almost never says no. Sounds like a skill issue

>>24398247
if you're ok with that, more power to ya anon.
I want to believe in love, even if it means I won't find it anywhere other than Jesus.
I was just talking (more to myself really) about dating as a Christian; and saving sex for marriage, it's not hard to find a woman who wants to do that, but the issue is I know I'd feel like she's only doing it because she doesn't actually want me, and just wants my bank account and resources. Even if she didn't care about that, I know myself enough to know that I'd lose my shit over it, while at the same time trying to save it for marriage. I dated this Christian girl for a while (she actually saved me, and I will always be grateful to her for that) and we got on really well, but thanks to a car crash she didn't like being touched, and it made me feel so unnatractive and insecure I couldn't handle it. That and her claim that she was a virgin at 28, who hadn't even been kissed, but she had been engaged.. and I just couldn't get the idea that she was either one of those "born again" virgins, or else just a secret massive slut for some guy or other, but not me.
Idk, thanks for listening to my rant.

>>24398241
I found the book to be highly amusing because I actually did deliberately train my husband Pavlov style to do chores and be my slave. I even felt sorry for him and tried to get him to read it, but he declined. I guess he's happy to work for me, maybe I did too good of a job on him. I'm making sure my sons don't fall for the same tricks though. My eldest has already read it.

>>24398246
Ah but you didn't have the children at home with you 24/7. It's a bit different then. I would put your workload at about 60% of the difficulty of someone with kids with them all day that is also doing the developmental improvement with them, but also, that is still significant. I don't mean to say what you do isn't difficult also. With no one to trade off with, it's hard psychologically. It's a lot of pressure having little people who depend on you completely. No room for error. I respect it anon.

I agree that most women who stay at home are quite pathetic though. In my years of being forced to interact with them I still am not sure what most of them have to complain about. The worst was the stay at home father I know though. That guy is a disgrace and I have yet to meet a woman who is worse than him. Complains about everything, constant whining about his wife who not only financially provides but designs their homeschool lessons, does all the cleaning and cooking. He doesn't care for his children properly and they are unruly and destructive. He even tried to pawn them off on me but I wasn't having it. He is actually quite cruel to that girl, insults her and lectures her constantly while spending all their money. He didn't pay their car payment for 3 months because he was buying himself accessories for their truck and electronics for himself. I guess disgusting leeches can come in either sex.

>>24398197
I see. I hope you can learn something from this. Good luck in your search for a better partner.

>>24398129
a, c, h, j, k

>>24398237
Same brother. I just don't tolerate bullshit. Relationships are give and take but most women see themselves above giving and expect you to serve which is why I tend to go after zoomettes since they do not appear as brain damaged as women around my age at 31.
>>24398232
100% factorio is pretty easy. I have all except the space before x hours cheevo with 52 hours, most of which were afk. Idk I maybe I just think differently. When I date women for 3-6 months I always push the move in together plan because dating is marriage trial. If they dont want to then I start going on dates and dump her once I find someone else to take to 3-6 months and repeat. Longest I ever dated was 2 years and it was obvious long term goals were different but she made good money so I let it go longer than I should have.
Idk maybe I am just retarded or something but I do not see how no red flags appeared while living together.

>>24398254
This is the truth, order will not return until the goyim know. Inshallah!

The hard truth is that with familiarity and children sex becomes less frequent. It’s just how it is and it’s not the end of the world. Marriage after all, according to Nietzsche, is just a long conversation. Sex isn’t the primary thing.

>>24398099
I love fat women so much.

>>24398207
This advice cannot be repeated enough. So many times I’ve seen great friends of mine go back to shitty gfs that constantly abused and cheated on them because they felt lonely while also believing they couldn’t do better anyways. Eventually the nightmare that is being in a shitty relationship won’t outweigh feeling lonely once in a while. There’s still some peace in loneliness

>>24398184
Maybe for men who work out, not for women

>>24398098
I thought women like sex. They're always getting abortions.

>>24398256
>she was either one of those "born again" virgins, or else just a secret massive slut for some guy or other, but not me.
Oh wow what a thought process. Sucks to be a Christian I guess. Humiliated in this life and then go to hell in the next one.

>>24398110
>No reason to have a girlfriend if she won't fuck you.
kinda the definition of girlfriend.

>>24398233
I don't see how you think it's too late to change though. You don't seem that retarded, nothing anyone else could make you feel while you'd be out there would be as bad as what you're inflicting to yourself and feeling getting worse right now, I can guarentee that.

>>24398267
thats my own insecurities, nothing to do with christianity other than the fact that some christian women do that shit.
Been with enough women before I found Jesus to know that when they like you, they'll do anything for you, and when they don't, they'll string you along until they can "upgrade". I just don't trust women, is the real problem.

>>24398120
>How big of a dildo was she using on your ass?
I bet she was a little mean with it, huh.

>>24398158
I must be autistic as well because I don’t beat around any bush. I tell my partner what’s on my mind, both positive and negative thoughts. Dating still isn’t working out for me at 36, but I’d rather be honest than not. I don’t understand pretending everything is fine all the while building resentment inside. But I’ve also tried building up my partner with positive elements about themselves that I like, and they look and act like I’m speaking to them in another language. It’s all such odd behavior tbqhwyf

>>24398251
Why does that post make you this mad?

>>24398270
But you're not supposed to trust the woman in the first place. You approach the father and he is the guarantor of her virginity and honour. If she turns out to not be the woman you were promised, sucks, but you kick her to the curb, keep the kids, and then just simply get married to a prime teen seal pack virgin. What's the issue?

>>24398101
>babe what's wrong
>you're fat
>WHAT THE FUCK WHY WON'T YOU TELL ME WHAT'S WRONG

>>24398167
>This is a lot of effort for an unfunny shitpost
yes. it could have been managed so much better, more execution. etc.

She is getting fucked by Tyrones BBC while you are at work and providing for her

>>24398175
>Strange my cat never has these problems
you can litter train a cat a lot quicker than a human child, believe me

>>24398098
bend her over and take it
tell her you own that pussy

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>>24398101
Pathetic...have some pride, bitch.

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>>24398129
J! J! J! J!

>>24398272
Fool
https://youtu.be/UUOxEwCuEgQ?si=iK17hjR_DbIL59ml

>>24398128
high libido
sometimes when i get sad about being lonely because i'm too ugly and autistic for a gf i browse that subreddit to make myself feel better

>>24398225
>The moment we got married all of her hobbies disappeared and turned into anime watching and doom scrolling Instagram. The moment we moved into a house, I cannot understate this, it was as if a demon killed my lovely wife and took over her body.
yes. my ex went nuts like this over time. she was a pain in the ass.

>>24398100
why?

>>24398223
Only an virgin could write this. How in the fuck is kicking her out training her for on demand sex? Fucking retarded.

>>24398225
>She either pretended to be a certain person for nearly 10 straight years and went full mask off within a a few months,
^^^this

>>24398224
If it had been 3 years she would’ve left you unfortunately. Ask me how I know.

>>24398226
>Men have needs. Women need to understand this.
the penis has needs

>>24398101
>understand you're so fat you can't have sex with the guy you "love"
>do i lose weight?
>nah, time to eat even more!
what the fuck is wrong with this whore

>>24398278
I didn't even have to train mine. Just somehow instinctively shat in the kitty litter. Once he got a flap he even learned to just shit outside, I feel bad for making him shit outside in -20 last winter desu. Real trooper.

>>24398227
>I'm just grateful to have a girl. I used to be one of those 'forever alone' types.
what a fag

>>24398225
She was disappointed with married life. Once it came, she got disappointed, and wanted something different. It’s not your fault. That’s actually just how women are. They’re never happy and usually blame the men in their lives for their unhappiness. The only thing that keeps them remotely on the straight and narrow is the promise of the storybook shit like marriage and kids or the big house or whatever.

>>24398100
too christpilled...

>>24398129
women don't want to sodomize you you retard, they want to get fucked hard

>>24398251
you will never be respected because you don't earn or deserve respect you lazy cunt

>>24398243
>for the record, I only used reddit back in 2016-2018 when the
that's like saying you only sucked cocks for two years. which sounds pretty gay.

>>24398283
I wonder if high libido really means high libido to those broads. Every gf I’ve ever had either gave me sex on demand or wanted to have sex regularly right up until the end but I wouldn’t say any of them ever had a high libido. In my mind, high libido is wanting to fuck multiple times per day every day.

>>24398246
Men don’t appreciate that some things are harder for women desu. Well, pretty much everything is harder actually. See, when you stay home with the kids it’s just a series of tasks to complete. When she stays home with the kids it’s a series of tasks to complete plus an emotional whirlwind that she experiences everytime she does anything related to her personal life. It’s very taxing on them actually. Not an excuse but it’s true.

>>24398296
I think that might be a Reddit foid. I've never seen that before where they have an empty line between the post number and their reply, it's extremely suspect and most of the time the people posting like that have the most dogshit takes.

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>>24398098
Did you make her cum at least once a week?
>no
There's your problem

>>24398295
>women don't want to sodomize you you retard, they want to get fucked hard
no, some chicks will rape you in the ass with a strap on

look RapeApe is doing a little grooming for Peter Thiel

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>>24398116
I saw this >meme
once and it completely changed my world view. Don't do something stupid because of some young hoe. Get a hold of yourself, you're sounding like a hysterical woman.

>>24398099
There's some truth to that, but honestly most of it comes down values instilled in you when you're young. Most young women aren't really raised to understand and respect men, and it's largely the fault of modern fathers who obsess over keeping their girl as, "their little princess" instead of grounding them in the realities of men, both the good and the bad.

My mom gave me a talk about women before I moved out at 18 and it was eye opening. I had experience prior to that, but boy was I naive. Way too good faithed. I was still innocent.

Fathers need to teach their daughters about the realities men, and mothers need to teach their sons about the realities of women. Sadly, we've lost that. As a result, most men don't really understand women, and most women don't really understand men nowadays. That talk is a rite of passage everyone should go through. It makes them better partners down the road. Also makes them sympathetic to the plight of the opposite sex.

Just as an example, most young dudes think hot women just have it so easy, not grasping just how hard smart hot women have it. People assume they're dumb bimbos, have nothing of value to contribute, and just want to get in their pants. Meanwhile, she has to try to sift through which men are lying to her and which are serious & intentional. Very few things in life are all good or all bad. Most everything is a tradeoff. Having just a bit of sympathy over unique issues each of us face goes a long way.

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>>24398305
>Having just a bit of sympathy over unique issues each of us face goes a long way.

>>24398306
Nope. Been here many many years now. I just try to be a voice of reason wherever I go. I don't really care if people mock it or don't want to get it. All you can do is put your best foot forward and plant seeds that hopefully will blossom someday. I can't control other people, but I can control myself.

To be clear, that doesn't mean you excuse bullshit from women. It just means you call out the good with the bad. Be righteous.

>>24398302
you're being trained like some retarded pet, she does not respect you and will leave you as soon as she can

>>24398308
>you're being trained like some retarded pet, she does not respect you and will leave you as soon as she can
holy newfag, believing the pasta

>>24398111
The last thing my ex wife gave me was a lazy handjob. We hadn't been intimate in months and I begged her, I know I was a loser, and she finally gave in. It sucked so much that nothing would have been better. Not much later she started claiming I was abusive and unless I went to therapy she'd divorce me. I said go ahead and do it. In retrospect, yes I was insecure but I wasn't abusive and she had no cause for divorce other than I was lame. Bow I realize the relationship was dead the moment she started "making up excuses". Shed say she was too tired to have sex, then spend 45 minutes cleaning the shower because " it's not clean ENOUGH" (I cleaned it weakly). Once your woman chooses chores over sex with you, she decided she was over you some time ago.

>>24398116
I don't know how you screwed it up, but since you're telling me you did I'll believe you. Fortunately for humanity you're probably such a gigantic nerd that you're having a massively net positive effect on humanity through your career that to kill yourself would set us all back a lifetime. So for my sake don't do it. But for your own, yeah you're a gigantic idiot and should feel bad. Thankfully for you, those feelings do wear off as you find *someone* who will settle with you're idiocy. So stick around through the worst of it for the rest of us and maybe someday you'll be able to imagine her while having sex with your tat'd up millennial fat, BPD cat lady wife. Or, you know, you could own your stupidity and apologize to Ms. Zoom Zoom.

>>24398305
>Just as an example, most young dudes think hot women just have it so easy, not grasping just how hard smart hot women have it. People assume they're dumb bimbos, have nothing of value to contribute, and just want to get in their pants. Meanwhile, she has to try to sift through which men are lying to her and which are serious & intentional. Very few things in life are all good or all bad. Most everything is a tradeoff. Having just a bit of sympathy over unique issues each of us face goes a long way.
Brother that is easy. It isn't simple, but it is easy. Then again, simple for women is hard, so to them it is hard. But for a man it would be quite easy and simple. In other words, men need to understand beautiful women struggle and then remember that their struggles are hilarious and a joke. I'd much rather struggle with people lying to me to get into my pants than work this freaking career that comes with a mortality rate. I mean, God literally solved the problem for them, just don't have sex until marriage! Women are literally put in a locked room with the key and then complain to men who have to contend with the hostile outside world. Stop complaining you gigantic simp.

>>24398250
Unmarried men, anon. Fornication doesn't just mean sex.

>>24398181
If you're doing it properly, the point is to be determining if you're gonna get married, and then end the relationship if you aren't, and get married quickly if you are.

>>24398161
>High Libido
Can't be that high libido if just putting on weight stops you fucking

>>24400177
Fatness and lack of exercise fucks with your libido. So ex-HL.

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>>24398101
>Half-Life female
>Half-Life male