[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/bant/ - International/Random

Name
Options
Comment
Verification
4chan Pass users can bypass this verification. [Learn More] [Login]
File
  • Please read the Rules and FAQ before posting.

08/21/20New boards added: /vrpg/, /vmg/, /vst/ and /vm/
05/04/17New trial board added: /bant/ - International/Random
10/04/16New board for 4chan Pass users: /vip/ - Very Important Posts
[Hide] [Show All]


Janitor applications are now open. Apply here!


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: images (44).jpg (11 KB, 256x240)
11 KB JPG
Honest Question: Why do feminists hate the "distressed damsel" trope so much? Like ... why is it wrong for fictional men to rescue and protect women in stories?
>In b4 "It's sexist because it implies that men are stronger than women!"
Men ARE STRONGER than women in real life! That's why social concepts like "violence against women", "women's safety" and "man versus bear" exist in the first place! If women were just as strong as men then these concepts would evaporate! Why do you think men are drafted more than women? Why do you think men die in wars more than women do? Why do men and women have separate bathrooms? Why do men and women have separate sports leagues? How come abuse committed by a man is treated more seriously compared to abuse committed by a woman? How come so many people think that women are completely incapable of committing abuse? Why do men accompany women at night to protect them from rapists? Why are the strongest male weightlifters stronger than the strongest female weightlifters? Why do women ask me for help with lifting heavy things? It's because MEN are the stronger sex! Feminists sometimes claim that men and women are equally strong and sometimes claim that women are stronger than men but these ideas are both idiotic! Furthermore, lots of women WANT to be protected by a man and so feminists DON'T speak for all women!
This is the real reason why Snow White and Princess Aurora were rescued by a prince! This is the reason why Mario and Luigi always have to save Peach! This is the reason why Link protects Zelda. Fairy tales symbolize real-world sex differences!
>In b4 "Women won't have sex with you if you talk like this!"
I don't care. People who expect me to lie don't deserve sex with me.
>>
File: IMG_6039.jpg (118 KB, 850x850)
118 KB JPG
The damsel gets GANONDORFD
>>
You need to learn to be concise. Nobody takes your schizo rambling seriously.
>>
>>24420541
>schizo rambling
All I'm doing is speaking obvious truths. What's so schizophrenic about it? At what point did I say anything false?
>>
>>24420494
Feminists don't hate damsel in distress they hate men they include the damsel in their own media
>>24420527
Looks like Dellie art, god I hate that faggots new stuff after he deleted everything
>>
File: IMG_6037.jpg (174 KB, 850x608)
174 KB JPG
>>24420612
No idea who that is but ever since I accidentally posted zelda cuck images and my Link fan fren got super mad over it, I always keep some ganondorf cuck images around.
>>
>>24420612
>Looks like Dellie art, god I hate that faggots new stuff after he deleted everything
Yeah. That pic is fucking perverted filth. It's too bad it's in my thread forever now.
>>
>>24420620
I'm really starting to understand why so many people want to ban porn. What the dick man?
>>
>>24420620
Funny
>>
File: IMG_4821.png (1.06 MB, 713x866)
1.06 MB PNG
>>24420645
I'm an asshole so I enjoy posting thing that make people mad.
>>24420647
Ikr, it's hilarious. He fucking HATES ganondorf
>>
>>24420694
>I'm an asshole so I enjoy posting thing that make people mad.
The best way to make people mad is to just tell the truth.
I mean, do we really need to drag Link and Zelda through the mud? They are lovable characters for a reason. They are very cute and nice together. Link protects Zelda because he is the stronger man and this relationship isn't unhealthy or oppressive because Link likes being the strong hero/gentleman/protector and Zelda likes being protected by a gentleman hero. This is what a realistic and healthy relationship between man and woman looks like.
>>
File: IMG_5972.jpg (290 KB, 714x818)
290 KB JPG
>>24420738
Nonsense. People try that with me all day long.
>haha u poor
>haha u gay
>haha u a mailman
Duh I am. Now suck my dick BITCH.
I think the zelda games are trash and tendo is a nigger faggot company so I don't care about those characters.
>>
I mean, REALISTICALLY if a relationship between a man and a woman is going to work then both need to be aware of the man's superior strength and the man must be wise enough to use his strength appropriately.
... which means that a healthy relationship between a man and a woman REQUIRES the sort of knowledge that feminists consider to be "sexist" and untrue.
>>
>>24420746
Dude, shut up.
I'm trying to have a discussion about how healthy relationships between men and women REQUIRE an understanding of male strength and its implications. Quit ruining my thread with vile pornography and slurs.
>>
File: IMG_5825.jpg (144 KB, 1280x720)
144 KB JPG
>>24420772
C'mon man.. we both know nobody cares for your threads. You always ramble on for way too long and add random nonsense into your texts that are horribly confusing.
People don't read that shit.
Plus, I said I'm an asshole and like making people mad so what the fuck did ya expect?
Oh and I'm banned from vg rn so I have to shit up bant
>>
>>24420494
>Furthermore, lots of women WANT to be protected by a man and so feminists DON'T speak for all women!
The issue isn't about whether or not you want to, the issue is about having the CHOICE to want to. A female shouldn't feel like she has to rely on a man, that's the actual argument. It isn't whether or not many want it, it's about making sure the other options are available.
>>
>>24420780
>Plus, I said I'm an asshole and like making people mad so what the fuck did ya expect?
Is this how you became poor?
>>
File: IMG_6020.jpg (208 KB, 1200x1320)
208 KB JPG
>>24420791
Nah, I'm just horribly stupid, have no talents or skills and got weapon grade autism.
>>
>>24420760
>both need to be aware of the man's superior strength and the man must be wise enough to use his strength appropriately.
No they don't. There are far, far greater things to worry about if you want to make a relationship stable and healthy. If you sit there and unironically think to yourself
>Gee, my partner sure is physically stronger than me, I ought to find ways to work around that
then you need to take a step back and re-evaluate your priorities. You shouldn't have to worry about the physical strength of your partner unless you find that appealing. In my opinion at least, the communication ability of your partner is a far greater worry than their strength; if your partner can communicate effectively, from their feelings, to their wants & needs, to the compromises they're willing to make for you... that's a damn fine partner. Far better than "grug big, grug hit gruggus for threat wife."
>>
>>24420785
they will say this but they will disapprove other women who act different from them
>>
>>24420555
I think the issue with your OP here was how much redundancy there was. All the rhetorical questions needlessly dragged it out and contributed little to your overall point.
>>24420818
Feminism is like any other ideology: it's a fashion statement. No matter the cause, you picket for a sense of belonging, not change. Any political group disapproves of people who act different from them, that's the nature of the beast.
>>
>>24420494
feminists and leftists in general hate reality
>>24420827
yeah but they have a side and it isn't freedom of choice, or even pro women, it is anti men
>>
>>24420842
>it is anti men
Oh. I'm not gonna waste my time on this.
>>
>>24420785
>A female shouldn't feel like she has to rely on a man
Well ... realistically the world is interconnected and we rely on each other in all sorts of ways. Women are needed because the male body cannot carry a fetus or lactate. Male strength is needed for all sorts of heavy tasks.
Also, some women try to be independent from men ... but then who do they call when they are being mugged? The cops! Will she be disappointed if a male cop shows up? Of course not! Realistically, we all live in a civilization that both men and women have built and so we all rely on both women and men every day!
>it's about making sure the other options are available.
Well ... there are plenty of stories out there about strong warrior women and yet feminists want to erase the entire distressed damsel trope. Why do the feminists complain about Mario and Zelda when Metroid and Tomb Raider exist as other options?
>>
Men? Huge fan.
>>
>>24420808
>unless you find that appealing.
Don't most women find male strength appealing? Don't most men enjoy helping women with heavy lifting? Don't most men like protecting women?
>In my opinion at least, the communication ability of your partner is a far greater worry than their strength; if your partner can communicate effectively, from their feelings, to their wants & needs, to the compromises they're willing to make for you... that's a damn fine partner.
Yes, communication is important. Doesn't everyone know that?
I'm focusing on male strength because so many people nowadays are trying to deny its existence.
>Far better than "grug big, grug hit gruggus for threat wife."
Plenty of men are smart and also strong. In fact, "weak nerdy guys" and "femboys" are stronger than most women due to natural sex differences.
>>
>>24420827
>I think the issue with your OP here was how much redundancy there was. All the rhetorical questions needlessly dragged it out and contributed little to your overall point.
I made all those rhetorical questions because I'm trying to emphasize that nearly every aspect of our society is built around the superior strength of men and yet the feminists still insist that male strength isn't real.
>>
>>24420842
>feminists and leftists in general hate reality
Yes.
>>
It is pretty funny when a strong indpendent wahmen runs into an insurmountable obstacle like a flat tyre or a stuck fastener and immediately look around for a man to help.
>>
>>24420863
>Men? Huge fan.
Me too.
>>
>>24421029
Yep.
Nature made men and women interdependent.
>>
I also want to point out that most normal women enjoy the Disney classics like Snow White and Sleeping Beauty. So ... am I supposed to believe that NORMAL women are misogynistic? lol
>>
>>24421083
Yes.
>>
>>24421086
So ... feminists are completely detached from most women?
What's the point then?
>>
>>24420862
>>24420929
>>24420987
I suddenly feel really bad because I'm bloody spent and can't continue this conversation with good faith arguments.
I will say though, I'm just a humble retard who spent way too much time reading Audrey Lorde and Carole Pateman, so I know more theory than I do praxis. How people actually use and express feminist beliefs... I have no idea, I actually live under a rock and have for many years. Male strength isn't usually what feminist theorists talk about; feminist discourse largely revolves around sexuality and how it's both weaponized and enforced.
>>
>>24421116
Attention whoring
>>
>>24420494
wait until you grow up and realize society protects women, and thus individual men are unnecessary in the equation.

Probably going to destroy your ego to realize you can't actually beat two scrawny cops with guns and a strong sense of righteousness.

that nothing you do to "protect" women is appreciated, and most of it would be considered a crime that they need protected from

but that's something you'll have to deal with, booboo. Growing up means letting go. Including letting go of your youthful retardation.
>>
>>24420494
what actually protects women isn't the violence of the individual male

it's the wealth of the community

and if you only have violence to offer, and lack wealth, You are the problem women need protected from.
>>
>>24420494
the reason nobody wants you "protecting" women is because you expect some reward from them in return. You only mention women, ignoring children and the elderly or sick who need your protection as well
meaning you're "protecting" women because you want sex in return

in real life society knows this and women know this so they don't want you in any position to "protect" anyone. If you demand sex in return for protection that's just extortion, making you the violent sort of man women need protection from.

you are the bad guy because you think women owe you sex in exchange for protection. Real men protect anyone weaker no matter their gender or ability to reward them because it's the right thing to do. You are evil so you don't understand this innately.
>>
>>24421710
>You are evil so you don't understand this innately.
we don't want evil men "protecting" women or children or the elderly or disabled

we don't want you at all. People that think like OP are a threat not just to women but to society. They usually wind up in prison, and rightly so.
>>
>>24421725
transactional thought is fine. No harm in wanting a reward for protecting people. But if your transaction is
>if you don't have sex with me I'll let violence happen to you
you're no better than the people doing the violence.

and often enough you ARE the person doing the violence. We've spent hundreds of years killing and imprisoning people like OP. Eventually they will all be gone. And that is fine. Everyone will be better off without rapists and their kin, the violent "protectors of women."
>>
And again, real white knights protect EVERYONE, not just hot girls

someone that protects WOMEN while ignoring everyone else is a rapist. Using the threat of violence to try to get sex.
>>
>>24420494
anyways I hope this helps anon

It's perfectly normal for MEN to want to protect women, but we also want to protect ANYONE BEING VICTIMIZED BY VIOLENCE EVEN IF THEY CAN'T HAVE SEX WITH US.

Nothing wrong with wanting to protect women so long as you protect everyone else as well. Otherwise you're just a sex pest and some white knight will probably come along and kill or arrest you because you focused your protection on WOMEN to the exclusion of helping people that can't reward you.
>>
if you say
>I want to protect EVERYONE from violence
you are a hero and we will reward you

if you say
>I want to protect (hot) WOMEN from violence
you are a rapist and we will destroy you.

very similar sentiments
completely different motivations
completely different outcomes
>>
deontology holds true not because the results are bad, but because if you do a good deed for bad reasons you WILL do bad things as well.

the antifeminist doesn't understand this
but society and women certainly get it.



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.