Are host countries failing to integrate migrants successfully into their hosts culture due to racism or is it the migrants who refuse to give up their home culture when they migrate due to racism?
>>24487653In this country, immigrants and their kids integrate pretty well, whether they are from race mixed families or entirely ethnic.Maybe that is because we were gradually important Muslims in the past 10 years instead of bringing them all in at once in millions. Like you did, so the school system succeeded in adapting here.I think it's both racism and socio-economic factors that fail to integrate them in the West.
>>24487653>Are host countries failing to integrate migrants successfully into their hosts culture due to racism or is it the migrants who refuse to give up their home culture when they migrate due to racism?neither, reallybut closer to the latterthe demographics are hand-picked to cause damage in target countriesperhaps immigration will always be weaponized eventually, but it doesn't have to be this way
just glowie things, basically...
>>24487671Factually incorrect because Byeloruzzia and Russia have been importing Pakistanis and Moroccans who are known to be one of the most violent demographics in the West. However, both in Russia and Byeloruzzia they are very chill as evident by the statistics if you trust their ruzzdog statistics bureaus
>>24487679i would believe iti think even in the US it went really well for over 50 yearsbut i think OP was specifically referring to countries where it ISN'T going well, by the wording he used, so i spoke to thosebut yeah of course there are cases where migration goes well, maybe it's even the normi'm just saying it gets weaponized and, more importantly, people are put into the false dilemma "is it RACISM or is it the IMMIGRANTS?"when really it's the military setting people against one another
if it's pakistanis idk actuallyyour example makes me wonder though, interestingeither the statistics/reporting are wrong, or it's particularly inflamed in other countries with migrant pakistanis, either for natural (the cultures being different/similar in important ways) or artificial (glowie tension farming) reasonsi'm sure all are arguable, i wonder which it is
>>24487688>>24487690I have a theory why that is the case, but it is so retarded I don't even want to put it outHint: only Muslim men move to Eastern Europe... Make of that what you will.
>>24487661Yeah it does seem like the governments in the west saw X economic issue as a problem so imported Y immigrants to solve the issue without thinking about the social unrest it might cause.Do you think slowing migration and properly prosecuting offending migrants could solve the issue or is it too far gone?>>24487671>>24487675My only experience has been Switzerland and growing up it was very clear that the Swiss Government had a clear migration strategy, importing people from specific countries (having migration "seasons") and helping them integrate effectively making sure the 2nd generation of children have Swiss mentalities and good education/jobs. Having gone back recently it seems like some of the controlled migration has lapsed a lot but not to the point where there's no way to turn things around (hence why Switzerland is voting on a "population cap").>>24487679>Russia>accurate propagandaI think you might need to pick one or the other...
>>24487690>>24487692Two retarded kikes kissing assholes full of shit and nonsense
>>24487699AHHHAHAAH, THINKING YOU WILL GET PENSIONS. HAHAHA THAT PONZI SCHEME IS TOAST ALREADY. You dumbasses are toast. Migrants do not bring in money. They take. And take. And take. Your pension fund will be stolen by migrants. The left said so themselves, and you can look at the US's little Somali day care fraud scheme to see how they steal everything and give nothing. They are replacements, not supplements. Only way white boi you get your precious pension is by killing all the browns and getting your children back to work making babies. And we all know you are too cucked to do that. You sold the countries in the West out in the first place. What even made you think you deserved a pension in the first place? In a world with LEGAL BABY MURDER? Where you let your kids and grandkids get murdered, and then import infinity third world browns to nuke your culture and country. Absolutely retarded.
>>24487699Yeah, I think the West tried to swallow way too much.We've got to drink immigrants slowly step by step, like Russians are doing. But things are increasing fast exponentially even. We will have to have this talk in two or three years. Maybe then they will get the criminal elements emerging in CIS.I have some friends from country of the flag I am posting with. I'll report back on the state over there with some accurate descriptions next year. As of 2026, no significant problems been reported by them even doe a lot of migrants been there for half a decade.
>>24487713Yeah it’s been intentional retard they are going to fuck your country up boi
>>24487732Intentional by whom? Globalists aren't in charge there. Something else is up
>>24487692>>24487699hmmmgon digits checked
>>24487705>>24487732exorcismquit chanting that shit
>>24487747>gOn id...
>>24487700>>24487705>Implying pensionCurrently I'm set to get the base rate of UK pension which is £50 a week. Desperately trying to improve my employability by going into debt with a degree at 37 XD
>>24487653its the migrants.we shouldn't want to assimilate them anyway though they will just fucking ruin everything its impossible to civilise people who grew up either living like savages or spent their entire upbringing going through a series of truamatic events in a warzone.there is no way to integrate these people untill they are like 3rd generation and even then they remain fucked up from generational trauma or abuse.we cant keep letting 3rd worlders into our country as they have already degraded our society an unacceptable amount and have displaced a terrifying amount of native working class people.we need to look after our own before we even think about trying to help foreigners, a lot of natives here get less help from the gov than "asylum seekers"
>>24488497>displaced a terrifying amount of native working class people.I will now support deportations
>>24488497Isn't that a failure on us though? Focusing not on the 2nd generation's integration but leaving it for 3rd and 4th generation? I agree that taking in people who have PTSD and all kinds of mental health issues due to the violence they have experienced but shouldn't we as a host country account for that? It seems like the government throws money and lodgings at the issue and presumes it'll fix itself.
>>24489661well the thing is its fucking impossible to 'look after' these types of ppl when its mass migration on the current scale.if there was like only a very small number of them coming then id agree with ur sentiment and say yeah we need to find ways to help them adapt to living here and help them with their mental health issues ect.but at the moment what's happening is the ZOG is allowing human traffickers to mass import the dregs of society from 3rd world countries in an attempt to destroy our civilisantion and because the their corporations can make a quick buck by exploiting them for cheap labour.these ppl are not being brought here for humanitarian reasons they are being brought here to be exploited and because they have the added 'bonus' of disrupting western society.white ppl sleep on the streets where I live while africans and jeets get put up in cushy B&Bs.none of the native locals can access shit like soup kitchens or clinics for homeless ppl because its all overwhelmed by these immigrants.I have no problem with someone moving country for a better life but that's not what's happening at all with these thirdies swarming in every day and no offence but its very naive of you to think the gov has anyone but their own best interests at heart
>>24489757So we need more regulation and deportations? Seems fair, but how do we go about doing something like that without a humanitarian legal and PR meltdown? Either a 1st world country needs to act like a 3rd world country and do some pretty questionable immigration practices or the country could put a major focus on integrating people into UK society. I'd be tempted to start things like "Pork Stalls" in areas where people who have never had pork before in their lives could sample some fine British Pork dishes for free if it's their first time tasting the meat etc. etc. but that would be shot down in a second for being religiously inconsiderate XD.But getting the second generation of kids to have "traditionally British" experiences could help a lot. Think strawberries and cream during the summer months etc. having big pushes to get that second generation onboard with British values and have open conversations as to differences at home and in Britain?I think the UK is a great country and can solve the issue it just needs to shift it's opinion from "mass deport" to "integrate or leave".
>>24490002THE ROME STATUTE OF THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURTArticle 7: Crimes Against HumanityFor the purpose of this Statute, "crime against humanity" means any of the following acts when committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against any civilian population, with knowledge of the attack:1. The Atrocities Committed (Specified Sub-sections):Article 7(1)(a) — Murder:"The intentional killing of a person."Article 7(1)(b) — Extermination:"Includes the intentional infliction of conditions of life, inter alia the deprivation of access to food and medicine, calculated to bring about the destruction of part of a population."Article 7(1)(c) — Enslavement:"The exercise of any or all of the powers attaching to the right of ownership over a person and includes the exercise of such power in the course of trafficking in persons, in particular women and children."Article 7(1)(f) — Torture:"The intentional infliction of severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, upon a person in the custody or under the control of the accused."Article 7(1)(g) — Rape and Sexual Violence:"Rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, enforced sterilization, or any other form of sexual violence of comparable gravity."Article 7(1)(h) — Persecution:"The intentional and severe deprivation of fundamental rights contrary to international law by reason of the identity of the group or collectivity."Article 7(1)(i) — Enforced Disappearance of Persons:"The arrest, detention or abduction of persons by, or with the authorization, support or acquiescence of, a State or a political organization, followed by a refusal to acknowledge that deprivation of freedom."Article 7(1)(k) — Other Inhumane Acts:"Other inhumane acts of a similar character intentionally causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or to mental or physical health."
>>24490039Why is this a Crime Against Humanity?Scale: It is Widespread.Method: It is Systematic. It involves a dungeon, a hierarchy ("The Syndicate"), financial backing (racketeering), and established protocols for kidnapping and torture.Intent: It is a Policy. It is not random violence; it is a calculated campaign to destroy a community, generate illicit profit, and enforce control through terror, facilitated by corrupt elements of the state.Under international law, there is no statute of limitations for these crimes. The perpetrators are not common criminals; they are hostis humani generis—enemies of mankind.
>>24487653In pretty much every country I don't think you see "real" integration until the second generation. This is why it's important to keep immigration at controlled levels so that the existing culture can be maintained.
>>24490052Demographics is destiny as soon as the native population drops below 80% chaos ensues You guys just plug your ears and hope to bargain with devils at this point They just lie. They don't argue anything, and anyone stupid enough to argue with liars is stupid enough to be tricked by liars.Killing liars is the only safe bet.
>>24490059>Demographics is destiny as soon as the native population drops below 80% chaos ensuesThe native population of the USA has been below 80% for something like 200 years and we seem to be holding it together for the most part.
>>24490042>Article 7(1)(k)
>>24490059Fascism only works in the short term, always fails in the long term.
Most immigrants are fine with integrating despite racism against them. Immigrants from Muslim countries tend to stick with each other more often, unless they are Christians being driven away. This was a lot more common decades ago.The big phobia against immigrants from India (our third-biggest group, behind Mexico and Cuba), is that they aren't taking the crappy jobs that we don't want anyway, but the entry level skilled positions.
>>24490108Indians as a community also have a lot of issues with being willing to deal with worse working conditions and fewer/worse benefits than people born in the US, which can make working conditions worse across the board due to job competition. Personally I also feel like Indians have a lot of cultural problems with nepotism - once they have a foot in the door and rise through the ranks enough to be involved in hiring decisions they tend to heavily favor other Indians. Probably a bit of a stereotype but it's something I've seen at several companies I've done consulting for.
>>24490108Lots of religions group together. In your opinion, does that promote the ideals of the host country or create schisms within communities that hinder integration? Should there be religious quotas in areas preventing people of certain religious ideology from surpassing a certain percentage of a given native population or would that be too much like government intervening in a negative way? (it could mirror the national averages, for example)
>>24490002much much more deportations and have coast guard actually patrol and prevent these boats from landing.also close the holes in the asylum system that allow ppl to claim it for ridiculous reasons and not allow ppl in who have criminal records or are fleeing the authorities in their home country.>Pork Stallsppl don't need to eat pork to integrate and shit like that is the least of our concern. teaching things like basic hygiene ect would be far more important.>traditionally British" experiencesanother token thing that would not actually help much.I can feed a donkey strawberries and cream it won't make it act british.>needs to shift it's opinion from "mass deport" to "integrate or leave".idk man I think ethically it would be far better to just deport as many as possible and not do forced integration.the thing that allows ppl to not integrate is having ppl of the same culture as them everywhere which allows them to not interact with natives, not learn the language ect.without mass immigration all immigrants will intergrate out of necessity.
