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Can the laws of physics change? Can we change them?
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Imagine setting down a cold cup of coffee and it heats up. This isn't forbidden by the laws of physics it's just incredibly unlikely. Things cool down just because it's more likely for the energy to spread out. But could a fundamental constant of reality be changed? Like big G or planck's constant or can the framework be changed entirely? Van you have a universe without gravity, electromagnetism, ect.
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>>24561785
Depends on my ID
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We can ignore them. We already ignore medicine and other science, so physics is on the list as well.
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>>24561797
You are talking as if science was invented, not discovered. A part of mathematics is learning that numbers don't exist and are just definitions, the universe doesn't care about whatever number Planck's constant is.
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>>24561858
Did your ID do anything?
>>24561859
>Awoo ID
No politics please
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>>24561864
>the universe doesn't care about whatever number Planck's constant is.
The constant is an abstract representation of something describing actual reality Mr. Midwit. If the number were different then we'd be describing a different physics of a different reality.
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>>24561877
Then what's your question? If physics changes does the law of physics change?
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>>24561858
>Race id
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>>24561903
his question is like whether physics as we know it is a subset of or emergent from something else which may be influenced, i guess. which is a very good question. laws of physics as measured/defined today are fixed so long as the superset it could belong to or adjacent set it's influenced by doesn't change
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>>24561903
There are fundamental properties of the universe from which all other interactions and physics emerges. Can we build a machine that can change those fundamental properties or even delete or add new ones?
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>>24561903
>>24561908
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-structure_constant

>In physics, the fine-structure constant, also known as the Sommerfeld constant, commonly denoted by α (the Greek letter alpha), is a fundamental physical constant that quantifies the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between elementary charged particles.

>Physicists have pondered whether the fine-structure constant is in fact constant, or whether its value differs by location and over time. A varying α has been proposed as a way of solving problems in cosmology and astrophysics.[33][34][35][36] String theory and other proposals for going beyond the Standard Model of particle physics have led to theoretical interest in whether the accepted physical constants (not just α) actually vary.
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>>24561922
hugely interesting. will ponder on it for months/years to come
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>>24561908
>his question is like whether physics as we know it is a subset of or emergent from something else
Yeah. If there was a multiverse are all possible universes just universes where these fundamental constants would be measured as different values or is every imaginable and unimaginable universe possible?
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>>24561915
I think if something big happened that changed a constant like gravity then the reason for the shift will be known and it'll just be saved as a new constant. The original gravity will still be there under whatever conditions the universe was in before.
Like how atmospheric pressure is a standard value but in physics homework they will always specify that you're in conditions where it isn't
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>>24561940
it's kinda falls between the idea of physics being solely reactive which would mean the former and life being active (beings as actors) which could mean the latter, as in each decision made would have an alternate universe with the other decision being made.

>>24561953
maybe it can be changed locally and not necessarily for the entire universe as a whole.
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>>24561938
Ponder upon your love for niggers
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>>24561989
i dont EVEN HAVE an iphone! leo is not me
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>>24561865
>Did your ID do anything?
well KWRAC sounds a lot like Kurac which is a popular vulgar term for penis here
I don't know what this means tho sorry
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>>24561953
>The original gravity
It would change the orbits of celestial objects. But yeah it would still be the same basic behavior as in it gets weaker at an inverse r^2 distance consistent with newtonian and GR models. If you had a force that got weaker with say the inverse r^5 distance could a force like that just start existing for either no reason or because of some clever machine.
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>>24561785
They laws are a law unto their own.
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>>24561785
We should launch every nuke on earth we have into outer space and let them just fly.

Imagine being an alien species and one of your cities gets nuked randomly and you have no idea where it came from.
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>>24561785
>Can the laws of physics change? Can we change them?
they wouldn't really be LAWS of physics if we could
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sure. up until the 1800s, we used to perceive light by shooting beams out of our eyes in an omnipresent fluid called the luminiferous aether.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether

then some sorcerer decided it was actually tiny magical particles but they're not REALLY particles, sometimes. also the particles are SO enchanted they retcon our previous reality.

also if you walk into a vault in Paris and chisel away at a big ball, 'a kilogram' changes. remember: metric units are scientific and not based on nonsense like feet or stones!



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