Is being gay a mental illness or natural? Hardmode:no abrahamic bullcrap and cherry picked articles.
It's a natural illness
>>24708397pretty much this. wires get crossed in the brain, causing the concept of sexual reproduction and same-sex individuals to align, rather than with opposite-sexes aligning.same reason for fetishes.
>>24708397>>24708398Based
>>24708396It's a mental illness. Jesus and muhammad were both gay, which is why those religions make you convert people (which destroys your own religion by race mixing). Which is why you need to kill all gays
>>24708397>>24708398Faggot made illnesses are not natural.
>>24708400Meds now
>>24708396Choice
>>24708396parasitic infection.
>>24708396Riddle me this champ. What is the purpose of a man having a sex drive? What is the fundamental reason for getting a boner? To shoot genetic material into another reproductive member of your species.If you're looking at a man's dick and your own dick is getting hard, or you're looking at a man's hairy asshole thinking "whoa man, I can sure impregnate that"then you're mentally ill.
>>24708396they infested with worms and demons.
>>24708396Most are born gay. I knew I was gay by about age 9 or 10. We just are as we are.
>>24708396I've seen a male cat dry hump another male cat before.That cat ate tomatoes, corn, and cookies, so maybe there was something not quite right about it.
>>24708405there is no reason or meaning in lifethose are human abstracts that don't apply properly outside of linguisticsyou don't have a sex drive for anything, be careful of truthful descriptions slipping into the 'because of' trap>>24708396varies from gay to gayin general in all it's various shapes it is a sexual/romantic attraction to the same sexif you are talking about pride shit? mental illnesscluster b specifically
>>24708396I contend it is a physical disease that, with some perseverance, can be cured. I contend that it is caused by pathogens in the gut: helminths, bacteria, protozoa and yeasts.It can be cured with antimicrobial supplements and a gut-friendly diet. Also horse paste.
>>24708396To be honest I really don't give a shit about gays and you must to be really gay to hate gays, why would you be mad at a dude wanting to suck dick? Are you a scared faggot that a faggot with balls will steal the dick from your mouth? Like a couple of gays means more free pussy for you, in my opinion every man should be gay only me straight
>>24708396Error in nature. It does not create life
>>24708396Homosexuals on average live decades less than their straight counterparts. What gives? If so why is homosexuality it not designated a public health hazard?
>>24708413There are big interests in the middle so homosexuality is not considered a health hazard because the straights, big pharma, funeral companies, churches and cemeteries are in hand in hand a 2 gays means a big win for all of them
>>24708413same reason as the tranny 41% thingcherry picking of data and the absolute slaanesh pit that is san franciscolike you know how the average age of ye olde were was barely thirty because of all the infant deaths, those who lived to 20 generally lived to 70 ishsame thingmost gays don't have health issues and stds but the denizens of the cursed place is soooooo degenerate it messes with the averagesany of these types of 'gays are bad' studies take a look at the data sources, san fran hookers every time lol that city is cursed
>>24708396Homosexuality is a fetish
>>24708396https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JYJJYo1BoTM
>>24708409>those are human abstracts that don't apply properly outside of linguisticsCalm down Wittgenstein, you know what he means.
>>24708398likely 50% this caused by the mother fucking up the hormones in the baby being a crazy cunt during pregnancy. The rest are made after birth whether molestation and/or butt parasites.
>>24708396It takes a village.
Watch gay porn once and you know fags shouldn't exist
>>24708396>is it natural?Yes, it's natural that in a large enough group there will be deviation>is it mental illness?Yes, those faggots are sick fucks
>>24708409The hypothalamus, amygdala, and PFC aren't abstracts.The autonomic nervous system is also not an abstraction.The autonomic nervous system activates sexual arousal. That mean that sexual arousal is an automatic function. When the autonomic nervous system causes your body to respond sexually to a non-sexual/inappropriately sexual stimuli then this is dysfunctional.If your body responds to a man's hairy asshole as though it is a reproductive organ, then your nervous system is misfiring and sending signals to your body in a dysfunctional way.ALL sexual behaviors can be explained scientifically. A woman putting a man's penis in her mouth, a man putting his mouth on a woman's vagina, even kissing have complex functions.Kissing has been a thing for hundreds of thousands of years, because the immune system/disease aren't abstractions. A man tasting a woman's vagina has many different evolutionary functions, but one is checking for ovulation as hormones change the texture, scent and taste of a woman's excretions.The same for a woman putting a man's penis in her mouth/tasting his semen. Immune system, reproductive health, hormones, etc.These behaviors are all natural and have natural origins, because primates, hominids, and mammals aren't abstractions either, and many engage in similar behaviors. Giraffes taste the urine of females to check for estrus for example. Another natural behavior.But what is completely unnatural is having an autonomic response to an organ which can never actually be reproductive. Knowing that you are probably going to get feces on your penis during the act, and still being able/willing to engage in this behavior despite the stench.. that is a mental illness.You are mentally ill.
>>24708396common sense tells you you that you'd have to be sick in the head to take a penis into your mouth and suckle it
homosexuality is a natural pressure relief valve with population density exceeds safe levels. the only argument anyone ever really has against homosexuality and the like is "they don't reproduce." why the hell should they? how many more people on this planet do we really need?
>>24708425Our bodies don't respond to things like that. If there were long term starvation or food scarcity, and we'd actually reached our carrying capacity and we were seeing large dying-outs from resource shortages then maybe your theory might make sense.Humans have always lived this way. Look up pre-industrial cities. Even Rome obeyed Marchetti's Constant. You could travel from any point inside Rome to the city center in 30 minutes on foot.Rome had a population of around 1 million people, all contained within a space that you could traverse end to end in 60 minutes, and reach the city center from any point within 30 minutes.
>>24708396It's mental illnesseven animals are bisexual at least
>>24708426>our bodies don't respond to existential pressureswhat the fuck are you talking about
>>24708396naturally applied condition via prenatal hormone imbalance or pre puberty you know what from older men.But its literally free to suppress those feelings even if they felt good at the time
>>24708423I am a self-admitted bisexual man and for men I usually seek out ones with large bubbly phat "fertile" asses and imagine myself impregnating them, so I can definitely see it as an illness or a malfunction of wires being crossed
>>24708428Our bodies don't have a telepathic link to how close we're living to other people. Our bodies know how many resources they're taking in, calories, water, etc. Population density has nothing to do with carrying capacity. We're obviously capable of making 400 million people morbidly obese in your country. America could have 1.2 billion people and maybe then everyone would be normal size, and yet you'd still be capable of feeding everyone. Humans have always lived in incredibly dense tribal communities.Again, look up pre-industrial cities that had populations of 500,000, 700,000, 1,000,000+ people and seriously try to answer the question as to whether population density has any impact on these things.
>>24708396It’s natural. If given the choice (without pressure to procreate) humans would choose dopamine release every time. Once you mix in the reality that society has to replace itself, then it becomes an illness to choose faggotry
>>24708431all creature respond to environmental, societal, and existential pressures. you don't understand life if you think otherwise
>>24708405So what you're saying is if he's shaven it's not gay?
>>24708431I doubt population has an effect on homosexuality but population density definitely has an effect on behaviour and sociallity. Humans are only meant to interact with maybe a few hundred people throughout their lives, meeting people outside your tribe was generally a stressful encounter even if it was peacable, now we see hundreds of strangers on a daily basis, that shit can not be good for the human mind and is probably why people in densely populated areas are so fucked mentally.
>>24708396>Is being gay a mental illness or natural?mental illness due to trauma
>>24708396feces doesn't belong on your johnson
>>24708437this nigga never heard of frotting
>>24708426i mean if your talking in the resource context Reproductive and even elective sex is inherently a commodity so it makes sense why people become prison gay(majority) or roll with the punches and become actual gayif people are sex starved in the sexual context it will breed alternative sexual methods
Being gay is definitely a mental illness. How do I know, I'll tell you. You ever seen a down syndrome person who is gay?? Because I sure haven't, everyone one of them love titties.
>>24708396you tell us, OP, you're the faggot here.>its a natural mental illness>it happens naturally when you reject God.
>>24708396It's basically PTSD from being raped as children.
>>24708396TKDTGD
>>24708396Mental illness.
>>24708397>>24708398Does this mean someone can be a diagnosed faggot? I know a few people who deserve that diagnosis.
>>24708407You were raped and just forgot about it.
Its natural but I think it's an aberration, or not intended by nature. This doesn't mean it's wrong or a bad thing, but it's more than likely just some generic mutation, mind malfunction, etc.There is nothing wrong with gay people and I love my LGBT friends.
>>24708396what's wrong with turks
>>24708396Nothing that ever happens to man is natural
>>24708397Yeah nature fucks up all the time hoping something will eventually work. In some horrible future maybe trying to breed with another mans anus might infer some advantage but for now it just makes you a faggot.
Before the ED, I used to see a vagina and instantly start getting hard. I imagine it's the same with homosexual men just with cocks. The idea of more than one cock in the bedroom repulses me, so I am guessing homosexual men like the idea of there being multiple cocks in the bedroom.Is it mental illness? I think it's an evolutionary shift away from sex being essential for reproduction due to the abundance of food and shelter. Being gay is not a mental illness in itself, but goes against your biology in such a major way that it makes it more difficult to pass on your genes (though many gay couples use surrogates to reproduce).