>>24790890
>How do I quit the liquid Jew?
Hitler got his start in beer halls, do they still have any of those there?
start going on 'drunken rants' when you're not actually drunk for some plausible denyability, then see what happens as you amass a group of followers.
But the real answer is find a confessional Lutheran church (just make sure there's no pride flag or female 'pastor' and you'll be set). Eventually you'll find out that the preacher also hates jews, and at the very least you'll hear some nice organ music once a week.

you got more problems than alcohol mate but drinking isn't gonna help you solve em
you need to talk to people
just fucking socialise instead of sperging buzzwords on pol
new rule for you: only drink when in social context
you want a drink u gotta talk to a normal human being
you wanna talk to a normie you need to shower
eat some fucking veg too and it'll cure your brain like nothing
get some fresh air and touch some goddamn grass

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>german
You are more than clear to drink yourself to death Hans. Your people had a chance of glory and you overplayed your hand. At least japs had the willingness to become anime/tech serfs. You just larp as the new "EU ARMY" as your country gets muzzied and anyone who objects to praying 5 times a day is improsined. Shame really.

its not alcohols problem youre a gay retard who also happens to be white

>>24790890
Daily drinker? How much are you drinking? Do you get the shakes?

>>24790890
Just stop drinking it, not hard. Do you have zero impulse control like a nigger? Are you obese too?

>>24790890
you need a new habit, man. your country has some nice areas, go for a hike. maybe try Jesus Christ.

>>24790890
Jesus Christ saves.

Naltrexone for a few weeks. Then switch to kratom. Alcohol is unsustainable for some people. it all depends on how much you drink and your body chemistry, but eventually everyone hits a hard wall if you push too far

>>24790896
Depending how much he drinks, this can be a very bad, even potentially fatal idea. Alcohol isn't weed or cigarettes, you can just brute force those.

>>24790890
Don't buy kike brands
Do it in moderation
Enforce yourself to never drink off the bottle, instead make it special
And go outside and touch grass, literally and figuratively

>>24790899
Yes, switch one fucked up addiction with another. I was taking Kratom for years OP, don't listen to him, he wants to turn you into a fucking junkie.

>>24790899
these people dont get enough water after drinking or before. amateurs.

Im 10 months sober anon after 7 years daily.

Not sure it was divine intervention but at my lowest in hope, on another near midnight drunk walk to get more beer, I came across some disgusting 50 something year old alchy who looked pregnant, wispy hair, vile teeth, cheering me on to get more. I dumped it all out and never touched a drop since.


That said I already knew I was safe from bad or deadly withdrawals, dont under estimate those, tapering off is way harder than cold turkey but it can easily kill you.


Its so fucking worth it, first 6 months to a year are hard though.

>>24790900
A seizure isn't going to kill you that shit is completely overblown to keep their best customers spending money on alcohol. The withdrawal is your punishment for being a retard with zero self control.

>>24790890
Just stop drinking for two months and pick up a creative hobby. Rome can literally be burning to the ground all around you, if you have something like painting, writing or playing a musical instrument and you’re improving at it weekly and composing/outputting something tangible, you will find happiness. This is what the Bible meant when it said we were created in God’s imagine—our purpose is to create. You’re unhappy and drinking because you’ve failed to fulfill your purpose. If you don’t like the biblical symbolism, the Greeks thought the same thing, poets and those inspired by the muses suffer from a divine madness which places them much closer and in communion with the gods.

>>24790902
>>24790899
Joke's on you, I already take kratom. Using it in combination with alcohol and music makes me feel forget my shitty life and feel something close to joy.

>>24790895
About 3 litres of wine 3-4 times a week. I usually rest a day, but not always. It's that cheap hobo wine you can buy almost everywhere. Used to be beer, but it doesn't cut it anymore.

>>24790897
>>24790898
based

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Dunno man, my vice is a small dose of edibles and vegemite sourdough toast

>>24790890
>lost almost all friends and family
Did they die or did you alienate them?

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>>24790907
>About 3 litres of wine 3-4 times a week
How the fuck are you functioning? Going to work hungover?

>>24790907
buddy you're not feeling shitty cus your life is bad you're feeling shitty because your body is shutting down
physical health is stupidly effective on mental health and what you desperately need to to kick habitual drinking

>>24790910
I decided that my friends suck so yes in a way I alienated them.

When it comes to family, It wasn't really much my fault. My parents were already divorced and got new partners and moved out of my town. It's just that I finally stopped keeping contact and decided that they suck too much as well. There are a few other family that I lost contact to as well. It wasn't going anywhere anyway. I just pretty much stopped keeping up appearances.

You know you can freely move in Europe right? Just leave the shithole you're currently at and move somewhere nicer. I feel like alcoholism is related to the weather, the less you can stay outdoors in a comfy temperature the more you end up staying somewhere indoors and drink

yeaah nigga sugar juice u a real drinker only that good stuff alcohol with the alcohol innit yea mane

>>24790907
Three liters in a day? You buy these cheap Chateau Clochard 3l Pennerwein boxes from Aldi/Lidl, right? You drink one of those a day? That's a shitload. Have you tested the waters what would happen if you stopped drinking for a week or so? Do you get the shakes, do you start vomiting?

>>24790890
The Lord can give you the strength to quit. Im 2.5 years sober as of now I drank for two decades. The withdrawals became to much for me to handle and I was tired of having to drink to feel normal or drink to go to sleep, like I couldn't sleep without alcohol in my system. I detoxed in a hospital with benzodiazapines and I was monitored in case I had a seizure but after that I gave it up. I was praying alot but I was ready to get sober and now here I am 2 and a half years dry.

>>24790890
Just man up broski… Just find something else to focus your energy on like something to fill the time you would normally be drinking. Just get through the first couple days and you’ll be fine. Find something else new hobbies or some activity you can do for several hours. I quit drinking recently and I’m coming up on 30 days without drinking or anything else other than coffee and cigarettes. I’ve found exercising for multiple hours daily with rest in between different physical activities works well and you feel better and can sleep better at night. On the weekends I try to plan day trips to places and explore different cities/areas instead of sitting at home where I would be much more tempted to drink due to sheer boredom.

Your alcohol habit isn’t even that bad if you’re only drinking 3-4 times a week. I have been down bad on alcohol to the point I was drinking nearly a 1.75L of Grey Goose vodka nearly everyday. Withdrawals are real because I’ve actually had to go to the hospital several times before and the shakes are real and no joke, I even had a detox center send me away because my BAC was .62 and was too high for them to take me in and sent me to the hospital. They literally thought their portable breathalyzer was broken when they had me use it. The shakes actually are scary because your hands shake uncontrollably and you literally cannot stop them. Only drinking a several liters of wine shouldn’t give you the shakes or severe withdrawals because I used to consider a night of going easy was drinking 3-4 bottles of 750ml cheap real French champagne from the grocery store. The bad withdrawals come from never being sober and drinking basically as soon as you wake up in the morning or soon after waking up to prevent a nasty hangover, so you essentially never stop having alcohol in your blood then when you actually do quit the hangover feels like it’s going to kill you. Just taper off with like a1 or 2 bottles of wine one night and quit

>>24790911
You usually don't go to work if you drink that much, unless you're a high functioning cook or bartender or something along those lines. Some people can even hold down a normal job for quite a while, but that shit is noticeable.

>>24790890
That's the alcohol talking. Your brain is wired to want alcohol right now and it has turned off the circuitry that makes you care about everything else. I know the feeling. If you quit drinking, that motivation and desire will come back and you will feel like a different person. It's hard to see how it will happen, especially when you are at your worst trying to stop and feeling nothing but emptiness and cravings. You just have to trust the process and know that it will get better.

Develop healthy habits like eating healthy, exercising every day, and sleeping at the right time, and you will feel awesome when you have broken free from the alcohol addiction. Force yourself to do all of this stuff and it will eventually come naturally. The thought of drinking alcohol at that point will repulse you.

>>24790917
Are you off the benzos? Those are just alcohol in pill form.

>>24790906
Makes sense

>>24790890
Just wait till 7:00pm every day to start drinking. If you can make it till then you’ll be past wanting to drink and you will drink less. The whole “You have to stop if you’re drinking too much” thing is faggot woman political correctness.

>>24790890
Gotta stop the slop, well maybe after saturday or something for a while.

>>24790890
Alcohol is awesome. Keep it to six drinks mac per day.

>>24790921
They give you Benzos in order to control the withdrawals. If you're severely addicted, you soazz out on DT which can kill you (no matter what uninformed anons will tell you).

>>24790925
I only drink to get really hammered, or something for the taste like in a restaurant.

>>24790923
Fuck that. Quitting entirely is the only way. Alcohol makes your life objectively worse if you consume it in moderate amounts more than one day a week or so. If you can't moderate your intake when you drink and can't stop yourself from drinking all the time then you are an alcoholic and have to stop entirely. It's not that big of a deal. Life is great without drugs.

>>24790913
It wouldn't hurt you to talk to someone IRL. Look for a therapist who doesn't gross you out.

Just don't go places that sell alcohol.

>>24790890
Marijuana is what got me off the booze. Specifically edibles. It's the only way I can get "fucked up" enough to mimic alcohol. Smoking/vaping/dabbing isn't strong enough to match edibles and doesn't get rid of my cravings.

Been drinking two bottles of wine a night for a decade and it's starting to catch up with me. Many things have added up to be a big problem.

>>24790928
I didn't even drink that much compared to some people here, typical 2-3 bottles of beer/bottle a wine in the evening drinker and I made sure to have regular multi-month breaks each year, but if you're not some "every once in a blue moon" drinker, it's best to just stop with it altogether. It progressively gets worse with most people and this moderation bs takes much more mental energy than just quitting altogether. Smoke a joint every once in a while, if you have a severly addictive personality, stay away from everything. (At least that's my attitude, ymmv.)

>>24790921
I only took them the first night in the hospital and it was to stop me from having a seizure or other bad effects but no I'm not on benzos I don't take shit other then caffeine or nicotine.

>>24790890
I promised a friend at the end of last year that I wouldn't drink at all this year and so far I've kept my promise, I did crave alcohol the first week or so but I've barely thought about it since then. Basically if you start with something small it can change your perspective and make you commit to quitting altogether.

>>24790934
Drinkers who also abuse benzos, now that's the real devil, I now a case. This is usually the grande finale stage.

>>24790918
>>24790920
>>24790917
Thanks for the advice bros and everyone else who replied. Just because I don't reply to everyone, doesn't mean I didn't read it.

Once summer is over, it will probably be easier to deal with. Summer makes me feel the loneliest, because everywhere is young people doing stuff and I'm a fucking hikkikomori NEET. Staying inside is even more depressing. So I mostly drink outside, sitting somewhere quiet and comfy.

When it's colder again I will probably focus more on inside hobbies like watching films or playing vidya.

>>24790890
Buy a graduated cylinder and vodka. Mix the vodka with water and drink and regular intervals, drop by 10ml every three days. Take b complex vitamins and magnesium glycinate daily, as well as lots of Gatorade and coconut water. Takes a while but it’s mostly painless and works

>>24790928
>once a week is moderate
LMAO faggots.

>>24790919
I don’t see why. I drank a bottle of wild turkey a night for a decade and worked in heavy metal manufacturing

>racists are pathetic alcoholics
you cant make this shit up. all my enemies are losers. god loves me.

>>24790937
That's not really the right attitude if you really want to quit, bro. Why don't you go to your Hausarzt and just start a discussion, tell him about your drinking habits, inform him how much you drink and say that you're thinking about quitting soon. You're not the first Alki he's helping to get rid of the booze, he does that every week. You will have a much easier and safer time if you do it with assistance, you don't have to go to some clinic if you don't want to.

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>>24790890
>alcohol
>coffee
>soda
HALT!

>>24790890
hams.cc/taper/ taper off or if you can't get your ass to a hospital to do a medical detox so you don't die. stop killing yourself because the world is gay and kiked, get healthy then get back.

Gay zoomers be all
>The government ruined my life! I'm gonna work more hours and pay more taxes like a faggot!!

>>24790938
>Take b complex vitamins and magnesium glycinate daily
Every drinker should do that for risk mitigation/harm reduction purposes, especially a high quality Vitamin B Complex, but if you fuck your body with booze, you tend to not prioritize these things.

>>24790890
Stop pretending it is a jew doing it to you rather than you yourself, because in this case at least it absolutely is yourself you are facing.

Excuses just prolong the suffering, either quit or succumb but cease the pointless continued struggle as both sides are you thus them fighting eachother hurts you most.

>>24790941
Racism is natural. Everyone is racist to a degree.

But why do white nations have to be for everyone while asia is for asians and india for indians and africa for africans?

>>24790907
>About 3 litres of wine 3-4 times a week
thats nothing lmao

>>24790948
go back to your alcohol, druggie. you are pathetic.

>>24790949
I meant each time 3 litre. So 12-16 litres total. Not a combined 3 litre

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>>24790907
Switch back to beers again, get some weed bruder - stop pounding your liver

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>>24790890
I I know the feeling, neighbor. I recommend starting a small farm—living off the food it produces and drinking your own alcohol. The responsibility of caring for animals and plants won't let you drink constantly, and your own homemade booze is always better.

The reason we feel drunk when we drink is because the alcohol thinks it's receiving glucose but it's not, so it's slowly dying, that's the effect we feel as we drink. And the reason you can't get drunk as fast if you recently ate is because your brain just got a big load of glucose and can still function.
So every time you drink, you're suffocating your brain and doing permanent damage.

>>24790946
Wernickes encephalopathy is the most terrifying part of alcoholism. If at any point you feel off from eating carbs you need thiamine immediately. I can’t stand how hidden information on tapering is because they just want you to strap yourself into their state torture facilities like it’s the 1940s

Keep drinking

>>24790890
sounds like there's bigger problems than alcohol, work on those.

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>>24790951
Which of these exquisite nectars do you prefer?

>>24790928
You’re a little bitch and you’re the problem with men. This is such politically correct feminine nonsense

>>24790890
At least you find joy in drinking. I hate alcohol and I hate weed. Hate video games, movies and tv shows. What can I do to take my mind off things?

>>24790899
Holy fucking shit, no. Quit drinking and stop using drugs. The only way to do it is to get your shit together and follow a healthy lifestyle that naturally makes you feel good. Your brain does not operate properly when you are always pumping it full of drugs. Let it heal and you will feel normal again.

Find purpose in your life, whatever it is.

If you want to stop the alcohol cravings when you get home from work, just consume a huge load of pure carbs (not fat and carbs like donuts or ice cream or pizza)
Drink a bottle of orange juice if you have to, or take spoonfuls of honey or drink maple syrup. You won't crave alcohol at all because you have enough glucose, your body's main fuel. People think sugar makes you diabetic but it's fat that does that. Nobody consumes a bunch of sugar and gets diabetic, they consume fat and sugar which is cheese, donuts, ice cream, cookies, sandwiches, burgers, the american diet.

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>>24790958
It's not a 3 litre pack, its 3 times 1 litre. Keep looking.

>>24790960
Look up negative thinking traps. Depression can be brutal.

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>>24790911
There was a time, about 50 years ago, when 70% of the workforce was either drunk or hungover on the job; anyone who didn't drink was said to be an informant for the authorities. Its started to shift around 1990's

>>24790964
Why is this shit always sideways?

>>24790890

Drink a non-alcoholic beverage between every glas of alcohol.

>>24790960
>What can I do to take my mind off things?
Hentai

>>24790967
You can buy 3 liters of wine for 6 euros.

>>24790955
I hear that some people have good experiences with taking N-acetylcysteine (NAC) an hour before drinking as well. But as we've discussed, a high quality (one that actually gets absorbed) Vitamin B Complex is a non-negotiable for every drinker. Magnesium is also very important, you're always deficienct when you're a drinker.

>>24790890
>How do I quit
Stop drinking.
It's literally that simple.
t. 15 months sober alcoholic

>>24790958
Primitivo is not bad

>>24790973
Keep it up. I fell off the wagon after my 5 year sober anniversary and thought I deserve a glass of wine. The journey never ends.

>>24790965
Do you drink that for taste reasons? If not, why would you deal with all the bottles?

>>24790971
Not even that. It cost me under 5€.

Just getting hammered a day is literally cheaper than cooking a whole meal in this country. (unless it is a shitty fertig-meal).

>>24790972
That’s the liver thing right? I’ll look into that

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>>24790969
I bought some ACE juice.

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>>24790976
It's not in a bottle. It's very similar to pic related, but not the exact same. It's what homeless people drink all the time. And me.

>>24790975
I know it doesn't end. But as long as I don't put alcohol in my mouth, I'll be alright.

God i miss good wine but fuck feeling terrible all the time. Its just not worth it to constantly have a headache and only shit solid once a week.

>>24790980
WE dont do that.

>>24790898
i tried saving it's hard, i spend too much on beer and eating out, what's his secret ?

>>24790890
bro there is only one way, cold turkey.
there's no weening this or that, or substitutes. Got myself off weed, coke, alcohol and junk food. One at a time of course. The hardest one has been alcohol because I guess I still drink just rarely, there's been a 6 pack in the fridge since December and I've had 1

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>>24790890
I crashed out on somebody in a parking lot and went to prison for a year, that's an option but I wouldn't recommend it
I've been sober for about a year and a half and feel way better, but the first few months of being around alcohol were tough
You just have to not be a subhuman brown person and use the self control that God blessed us with

>>24790928
>you are an alcoholic and have to stop entirely. It's not that big of a deal. Life is great without drugs.

The problem is that when you sober up you realize that alcohol destroyed your life and it is too late to start a new one.

>>24790900
you shouldn't rage quit smoking as it can be fatal too even there's little studies of it

>>24790959
Lol you think being an addict makes you more of a man?

>>24790980
That's a proper Pennerwein. I don't think a standard bum would walk around with a 3l box, too much of a hassle. A 1,5l box is much more practical.

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>>24790890
Three rules have saved me from alcoholism.
>don't drink when you're sad
>don't drink when you're alone
>don't keep liquor in the house

As long as these remain unbroken I can drink as much as I want which usually ends up being about once a week. This is coming from someone which chronic addiction issues involving many other things but the liquid Jew isn't one of them.

>>24790985
Don’t mistake a habit for alcoholism. That would literally kill any actual drinker

>>24790987
You're right, quitting in my 40s was depressing because the course of my life is already half over and too late to change.

>>24790988
You sweat off a lot of vitamins and minerals and piss them out too, so it makes sense to fuel your body with that.

>>24790985
The worst thing about alcohol is how fucking accessible it is. You can get it anywhere, almost for any price. You can drink it anywhere in the public as well and nobody cares. I drank it completely in the open in the middle of the day and never got any dirty stares. Alcohol is simply super socially accepted. Which makes it the most dangerous drug in existence.

I could never get addicted to weed. It makes me super sensitive, the exact opposite of alcohol. Alcohol makes you fucking numb and makes you not give a fuck.

>>24790993
define actual drinker
some wino with wet brain that drinks a whole bottle of vodka 15 seconds after they regain consciousness every day .. sure it would be bad. Someone who drinks 10 beers a night like I used to? no problem.

>>24790890
You're depressed because you forsook Allah for worldly pleasures. You're being plagued because you refused to heed Allah's warning about the jews and you left alive all the mischiefmakers that flock to your lands which Allah also warns you about.
Drink does nothing but dull the senses when you need to be coming to your senses to begin with.
Stop drinking and switch to 0% alcohol first. Fix your gut health causing your depression, which means cheeses and yoghurts. Ferments like sauerkraut and kimchi. And start regulating your vitamin D3 intake. You're most likely deficient.
Start working out. The moment you stop moving is the moment you start dying, and it seems you have started slipping.
For the sake of Allah you should take care of yourself and he will give you the means to be successful.

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>>24790890
step 1. run twice a week in the morning on empty stomach
step 2. eat clean and no drugs/smoking/etc
step 3. stop drinking
step 4. get an engineering degree (you need purpose)
you're welcome

>>24790997
Quitting 10 beers a night cold turkey would be a terrible idea. I think maybe you had 10 beers once in a while, or on weekends or something

>>24790892
I tried this.. only made me want to drink alone and listen to George Thorogood "I drink alone" even more.
How can I speak to all these normies and complete retards. I have a 140 IQ and I am very social and outgoing, but it's fucking painstaking. Every retard you meet is some arrogant dumbfuck know it all who cannot even understand the hypotheticals or reality you try to logically deduce for them. Never had trouble getting girls or making people laugh their asses off.. in fact people often ask to hang out and I say no.. they don't get it. I'm friendly and cool with most people especially at work but it's just to get by without drama or bullshit anymore.
Why would I want to fucking hang out with dumbass retard clitche boomer drunks who have been wasting away for decades???

>>24790890
I used to drink more heavily than I do now. The appeal then was in the oblivion. I realized it comes down to a psychological factor. If the goal is the oblivion that comes with heavy drinking, you'll keep drinking heavily. It's a bad escape, because the same shitty reality you have done nothing about is there waiting for you when you sober up, and now your body is being depleted and deteriorated. Eventually I found the willpower to do something about my problems, and I found drinking less appealing. I still enjoy drinking but now it is as a way to complement or enhance an activity. I drink socially or during the few hours each week I watch TV and so on. This is healthy. Every now and then the desire for oblivion creeps back in, and sometimes I indulge it, but I view that as a mistake rather than a fix.

>>24790996
It's deeply ingrained in German society. People actually give you looks if you don't drink on drinking occasions. You constantly get confronted by it if you have a halfway normal social life. Some people will be pushy retards. I can't understand why every sixteen year old can still buy wine and beer. Shit is retarded.

>>24790992
That system works in your early 20’s and usually other drugs take priority and alcohol is just a side hobby. When you quit the other drugs and say to yourself well I’ll just drink instead now is how alcohol takes over. Especially when you reach your 30’s alcohol hits different in your life and eases the pain all too well then you start spiraling.

>>24790890
I just find it very easy to not drink all the time. I can't relate. Sorry

>>24791000
I was on around 10 beer a night when I had to go to hospital for non alcoholic issues.
the first night feels weird but never real symptoms of withdrawel.

>>24791000
nope. i had a keg, a chiller and a tap. i know what i was drinking

>>24791000
10 beers a night isn’t shit rookie, that’s just an appetizer to a real alcoholic…

>>24790890
Stop drinking alone reading 4chan. At least go to a bar or pub to get drunk and make some friends and have a good time.

>>24790892
Sorry for the sage.. phone posting and it keeps it there if I don't remove it and post without it. Too much to sage lately on here

>>24791007
I simply don’t believe you. That’s seizure, hallucination territory. You wouldn’t be comparing it to weed and junk food
>>24791008
You still wouldn’t want to cold turkey it

>>24791002
The appeal for me is that it reconnects me to parts of myself that I don't really have access to. I feel like a robot when sober. When drunk I feel more like myself. Like the world is my oyster. I'm more willing to let my "guard down" against the world and see the beauty in it. Which I'm normally not able to.

It must be because of some fucking trauma or something

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>>24790890
You NEED Jesus. He's more than enough, trust me <3

>>24790893
Kek and none of the Muslims there serve, which is probably a good thing, but they're not dying for the EU Jew

>>24790890
Alcohol is like the shittiest drug ever. Not even remotely pleasant. Even weed is far better. If you’re gonna kys yourself with drugs at least use heroin or some shit that genuinely feels amazing.

>be me
>used to drink a six pack of beer a day
>used to use weed every day
>stop, try to live life sober
>interact with people while sober
>realize almost everyone is an insufferable faggot
>retvrn to inebriation
Make good money, however.

>>24791015
Alcohol feels amazing to alcoholics dumbfuck

>>24790999
>step 1. run twice a week in the morning on empty stomach
That's a terrible idea.

>>24791012
methylation of the DNA
you inherited it by your parents or parents parents
basically your body functions better with alcohol in the system from the get go
same for me

>>24791000
Not really. It's only dangerous to quit cold turkey when you drink 24/7. If you are going through periods of sobriety every day then your body will be fine if you just stop.

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>>24791018
I really mean this. I used to drink a 1.75L of Jim Beam every 2-3 days. Jesus saved me (for the second time)

>>24791020
You’d survive 10 a night cold turkey unless you had a bad heart or something but it would be hell and you’d never recommend it

>>24791022
I don't get why people recommend cold turkey, when you can have like 2 beer which is ALMOST cold turkey, but would withdrawals severely less painful.

>>24790890
What you need to do is go to the most isolated mountain you can find, get dropped off there, and go for a 3 week camping/hiking trip where you carry 100% of what you need to survive. You wont be able to take very much alcohol and you'll be able to go cold turkey.

>>24790890
Alcohol has been around for a long time and everyone knows it can be so addictive - it is the most common addiction in almost all countries - so if you approach health people and tell them, "I've got an alcohol problem, I need help to quit" and are honest about it, they should be understanding and able to help you.

If you can get free/affordable medical appointments then go and tell them you want to quit drinking.

Maybe there are free/community health things you can go to. They might be able to give you drugs to help you come off alcohol.

If you regularly drink a lot, when you stop it can feel very uncomfortable. People get 'the shakes', feel anxious, or have trouble sleeping. If it's bad enough you can get seizures and die. That's where the drugs come in:

Drugs like diazepam/valium are used to stop the shakiness/anxiety when people stop drinking. The are very safe - they are only bad if you take too much, or if you take them for a while and then suddenly stop. If you suddenly quit them after taking them for a while (sometimes as short as weeks), you can get seizures. So it's important to have a health person who can give you advice on how to use them to get off alcohol.

For if you quit alcohol, there are other drugs that can make you want alcohol less. Naltrexone can reduce cravings for alcohol.
Disulfiram is like anti-alcohol poison: Normally, it does nothing. But if you take it and then drink alcohol, you will immediately have the worst hangover ever. If you drink alcohol once while on Disulfurim, you will never want to do it again.
Vitamin B1 (Thiamine) - for nerve problems from long-term drinking.

Really though - you obviously aren't happy about stuff in life. Lots of people quit alcohol, but keep relapsing and return to it because they've got unsolved problems in their life. From your posts, sounds like leaving the house is a problem for you. You can gradually work on resolving whatever is keeping in this lifestyle.

>>24791000
That is what i m trying to do, like sometimes i just have to let my madness out, then i m calm.

>>24791023
Tapers always better I think, it works, you stay functional and still get to be drunk for a while

>>24791023
Because alcoholics can't moderate their consumption. If an alcoholic has one beer it's a forgone conclusion that he will have another nine after that.

If the problem is so bad that you can't quit cold turkey then you have to go to rehab. The only way an addict can wean off is when someone else is administering the dose.

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To anyone that needs to hear this. Live.
Things might get worse. Hell things WILL get worse. We might see every last white person on the planet obliterated.
But just remember every day you wake up and exist makes them piss and shit their pants seething. You don't even have to do anything. And that shit is hilarious.

never knew an alcoholic that was able to stop being a tedious egomaniac midwit whether or not they drank, so keep drinking until you die

>>24791004
I took up smoking cigars instead. It still itches the feeling you describe without giving me the indignity of being shitfaced every evening.

>>24790890
I got a DUI for being drunk while driving a go cart. I didn’t even know that was possible. I was on a go cart race track and I rammed the shit out of a little 12 year old faggot that was flipping me off and swerving at me and next thing I know I’m in handcuffs.

>>24791022
Not really. 10 beers a night isn't really hardcore alcohol level, you will feel kinda shitty if you quit cold turkey but I guarantee that you have had plenty of hangovers that were way worse if you are at the point where you regularly drink 10 beers a night.
t. alcoholic enough to score a 0.42 BAC without dying and then spent a weekend in the ICU going cold turkey. Being stuck in a hospital was worse than the withdrawal symptoms. Having an IV probably helped, but they didn't need to give me benzos or anything.

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>Lives in the country known for making the best beer in the world
Just enjoy what your country makes man

>>24791033
I already can tell you’re full of shit because alcoholics don’t get hangovers. What is the thrill of lying on 4chan?

>>24790998
offtopic why do so many people pick Romania as the VPN exit node? Couldnt you just like fuck off?

on topic, good takes here anons

I have issues with addictions also, but alcohol is not one of them which is amazing considering how much I drank in highschool until univ when I discovered weed and stopped altogether. There were summers when I drank until passout more times than some of you anons fucked, I was at a stage when I knew exactly when to vomit and how to best do it, in order to avoid getting more sick.

Glad I quit speed too, I mean, that the dealer left the country, so Im off that shit for some years.

I am left with weed, coffee and cigs as my daily drugs. Not good

>>24790890
Get a real job, where you can't be hung over.

>>24791036
I live in pipera

>>24790890
Kratom. Just don't let the kratom become a problem afterwards.

>>24790911
I was drinking close to that I'm my prime. I never got hangovers, so it was never an issue.

I have a family member who is alcoholic and cant get over it, and I was thinking and researching how I can help and there are some indications that psychedelics cures addictions, so one good trip of LSD might change your perceptions. If you are willing to try that and happen to find it somehow, you could try it OP

>>24791038
so whats with the allah stuff? Trolling much?

>>24791041
Mescaline. You won't even feel like drinking for a few days after. As long as you're not physically dependent on the alcohol, it's a good way to start the quitting.

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>>24791042
Im 100000% serious frate ba

>>24791035
the hangovers only end for three reasons; you had your hanogver asleep, stayed drunk or finally, your liver finally can't clear the acetaldehyde, at which point your liver is too far gone and you're dying from cirrosis. which, by the way is an awful fucking way to go.

>>24791045
Nonsense. I’ve gone years without hangovers and my bilirubin levels are perfectly fine. hangovers come down to glutamate and gaba balance and alcoholics are on the opposite side of most people

>>24791041
Lol

Trying to fix a drug addict will drag you down to hell with them.

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>>24791044
Well, okay. I just substituted Allah with God in your post and its acceptable.

I take you for a foreigner and thats fine, I hope you like it around here, I mean it.

>pic not related, its just a joke

>>24790890
For me personally I just woke up one day covered in my piss head blaring in pain, as per usual and was just like yeah I’m not doing this for the rest of my life. This actually sucks.

That was that. It was weird the first night, I was so used to just drinking until I passed out every night but I had to actually lay there and just fall asleep.

It’s fine to have a drink in moderation and even fine to get drunk on special occasions if you are into that (I’m really not) but being a drunkard is no way to go through life. Life sucks enough as it is, being drunk all the time actually makes it much worse.

>>24790892
Sir this is /pol/

>>24790932
what's going on? every single night? no breaks? I found that I can drink 1-2 bottles of clean/good wine and not have too bad of a hangover, but if I mix in any amount of bad wine or something like whiteclaw I will have the worst hangover on Earth

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>>24790890
TOTAL LIQUID JEW DEATH

>>24791046
GABA is cheap and great for quitting drinking. It kills that anxiety you get when you quit drinking and helps you sleep. In fact, having a drink with 500mg of GABA feels like 3 drinks and it’s a good way to cutdown on alcohol.

>>24791053
Just switch to phenibut from booze

Trust me

>>24791053
If only bro

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>>24790890
I always wondered why quitting is so easy for me.
I can drink every single day for a solid year straight… then just stop the next morning and stay sober for another year like it’s nothing.
Then, if I get bored, I start the whole cycle over again. it's really weird.

>>24791048
I am indeed and I appreciate it frate multumesc mult.
You're right btw about the vpn exit nodes. Can't even do a single google search without google flagging my IP and making me do captchas.

>>24790954
and yet, people have been drinking since the dawn of man and most people are just fine...

>>24790890
I will be 100% honest with you my alcoholism is the only thing keeping me alive right now.
I have no friends, no dates/gf/hookups, im lonely, i work a dead end minimum wage job. The idea that I promised myself I will kill myself one day brings me comfort and solace now, I feel happy knowing in the back of my mind I am willing to end it all.

>>24791059
well, the alcoholism is killing you so technically you are making progress.
you can do it anon!