No friends, No New things? No touching grass? No sex? Well then you are dying my friend.
Nice projection, NEET 15 years and I'm chilling and not even worried about the future, we will be in post-capitalist system where housing is free by then, because current system isn't sustainable anywayMy biggest concern about being homeless is cops fucking with me, not being homeless itself
>>24805488I run 10 miles every single day, sick my dick. I do hate other people,e specially women, and stay away from them as much as possible. Point is, I spend almost half my day outside.
>>24805488Can't wait for the armchair generals to be Good Samaritans and do something to help mentally ill chuds
>>24805489Why don't you have a job?
>>24805488What if I spent decades doing all those things and realized they mean nothing?
>>24805492The only reason I would want a job is pussy and to start a family.It's not worth wasting all my time making capitalists richer in the hope of getting that
>>24805488>Survival mode bad>Normalgroid flow state goodYou are cattle
>>24805488>touch grass>posts image of two homosexuals in the throes of passion.Gay glowie post.
>>24805488There's more information flow now from LLMs and the internet than you can get from real life. There's pretty much no reason to ever go out and interact now unless you need human interaction and relationships.
>>24805488I only left my home once this weekend, is it over for me?
>>24805498Why have you not gone to your local restaurant and overpaid for food? Are you not a patriot?
>>24805491They want to "help you" by making sure they extract the most value out of you for no return. Their wet dream is you spending your income on a single mother, and then dying for Israel.
>>24805489TrueI doubt most NEETs worry about the futureActually, when they start worrying about the future is when they have of chance of stopping being a NEET
>>24805490what are you running from anon? homosexual thoughts?
>>24805499I don't like eating alone in public, I feel too self-conscious. I ordered a pizza though
>>24805488>Staying at home all day all again anon?you're here, aren't you, tranny?
>>24805503Obesity
>>24805488>all day all again Go eat some shit jeet
>>24805488That OP image is 100% correct, it's how the mind works and processes trauma... just gets stuck ruminating the problem over and over until a solution is thought up.
>>24805488You spent the weekend with boring friends and a woman who hates you and whom you hate? You're going to get up tomorrow morning to go to work from 9 to 5 for a lousy salary, all that Repay a loan? You're already dead, my friend.
>>24805488I wish I lived long enough to see our species go extinct.
>>24805488Where I live, unless you're at a water park or public pool, it's too hot to go outside during summer. I can imagine most people are inside with their family.
>>24805509What is a man supposed to be doing exactly? 4chan says literally anything than rotting away on 4chan being insulted non-stop by concern trolling leftists is the bad and wrong. Tired of it. You guys have no leg to stand on telling anyone what to do with their lives. You all obviously wasted yours.
>>24805488>Well then you are dying my friend.This just in: dying feels great and is incredibly peaceful.
>>24805504That's why you need to find a restaurant that's worth eating alone at. If there's not a place worth eating alone at it's not worth eating at!
>>24805488I’m just not going to do it is all.What will you do about that? You won’t do shit.
>>24805488> Staying at home all day all again anon?No, I did a 4 hour bike tour. Warm day today, lots of tailwind, great fun.
Aristocrats basically never left their family homes except to visit other aristocrats and go to battle.
Not to sound like a fag but this describes me to a T. Ive been in a state of analytical paralysis for a long time. I'm torn between doing nothing and trying. Doing nothing (neeting) is starting to get real tiresome. I looked at joining a group like PF but did some research on them and I think they're feds. Maybe just forget about /pol/ and just raise a family or something idk. I feel like I'm just waiting to die.
>>24805488this is retarded normie thoughts who dont understand that not everyone wants to gossip with each other every minute of the day
>>24805488>This isn't X, it's YLLM post
>>24805488Just quit your fucking job. When I was unemployed I had time and energy to actually live my life. I did what I wanted to do, there was no excuse like oh I have work tomorrow or I need to rest because I worked yesterday. My brain was on a different level, much higher cognitive abilities. I had my life so well organized, any problem was immediately met with a viable solution. Now I work full-time again and I'm retarded, tired all the time, and have no time to actually live my life.We work too goddamn much.
>>24805488>Daddy daddy look I took psych 101 in le heckin mine readerPsych majors are so exhausting, I'm so glad they end up making dog shit money when they graduate.
>>24805512I haven't ruined my life at all. I've had a shitty life from the start. There's a difference.
>>24805488Haha haha ha ha. I pooped three times today, had 30 tendies and drank half a choccy milk, now I'm smokin weed shitposting waiting for the nap to hit. When I wake up I'll hopefully shit again and have more tendies
>>24805523Yeah I feel you. That wasn't directed at you so much as this site in general. We're all miserable fucks and shills/success trolls and trolls in general are denial of it while lashing out because of it.
I like my house, have everything I need and genuinely do not like interacting with peopleProblem?
>>24805524Have fun waking up in your 30s realizing you wasted your life on drugs, video games and porn. That's when the true hopelessness hits. There's nothing quite like a wasted youth leading to complete arrested development.
>>24805524Give mommy a big hug for me for making it happen! Can't live without a woman's permission! Yay NEET!
Dyinghttps://youtube.com/watch?v=GvG7CHWyol0
>>24805503Running is great. I did 50 miles a week as a neet. Gives you great thinking time and if you dont listen to music you can chat with God. Also puts you in the best, practical shape. In any sort of physical conflict, the person with better cardio almost always wins if they know how to leverage it. This is true from fist fights to gun fights. You just have to do it to understand.
>>24805489No indoor plumbing concerns? Just cops huh?
>>24805488twitter psychiatrists
>>24805488My will has been exhausted.The lockdowns (2020) combined with discovering /pol/ as well as other alternative outlets and learning the truth has crippled me.Always was an outcast but when I finished high school and went down the self-improvement road I had a plan and hope for the future. I spent 2 days in college before the lockdowns began and both men and women swarmed to me.Weight loss, strenuous exercise, grunt jobs, martial arts, cold showers and austerity beyond normal, all self-imposed for years combined with surrogate and academic education on all practical subjects was my path to becoming what can only be referred to as Nietzsche's Overman.But my will has been exhausted. The veil has been lifted. Reached the conclusion that I am a tax-cattle serf in a prison nation where everything human and masculine is either illegal or prohibitely expensive. I can't hunt, I can't own firearms, I can't drive a motorcycle at full speed. Can't be a man. My only options are to drink, smoke, do drugs and gamble. If you keep up on global events you can see everything and everyone has gradually become gayer and more retarded and insane. Consequently I have become more alienated and ostracized.I'm fine with being alone. Fine with nobody remembering or caring about any important conversation. I'm fine with life being cruel and unfair. I'm fine with at 24 never having had a social circle, a woman, real friendship, or any other milestone. I said it'd get better. It's fine. Life doesn't guarantee "Happiness".
>>24805497when you sit idle your body breaks down, your muscles atrophy, cartilage in your joints shrinks, you become a massive pussy, and no, lifting a few weights in your dungeon means nothing, your cardio goes to shit and you become a beta faggot.
I work construction for 18 bucks a hours. I hate it been doing it for 12 years just turned 30 and never made enough for a down payment for a house lost a lot of money after passing out in my car causing a crash which in all honestly was my fault but a human should not be working as much as me. I was labeled at fault which meant I had to pay for almost everything. Lost 15 grand off it. Last week I turned 30 never had friends a girlfriend or anything I booted up my laptop to read the latest chapter of my her academia and demon slayer and after decided to jerk off I look up sexy cosplayer and find pan piano. After finishing I decided to look up her net worth she pulled in around 500000k a year just by playing piano and wearing sexy cosplay. It caused me to have a existential crisis and realized I wasted my 20s and that working a 9-9 job would never let me do anything more then survive. I quit showing up to work my rent got being I never made enough for a down payment for house. I think I can use squatters rights for a few months before getting kicked out. I have no saving inflation has seen to that. My dad is friends with the guy who owns the company and the company president called him and told him I quit showing up. He called me lazy and good for nothing like the rest of my generation and that I’m not welcome in his house until I start working again. My dad kicked me out the day I turned 18 and I was homeless for a month until he started feeling ashamed from everyone a seeing me on the street begging for money and called his friend to give me the job. I’m honestly lost at what to do at this point. I have no idea on how to do anything my dad and mom never taught me anything. I have no idea how to get neet bucks and from what I hear it’s very difficult to get them in Ohio. What are the political implications of the death of the American dream?Tl;dr cosplaying piano playing whore caused construction worker to have a existential crisis from how much she makes.
>>24805508What if there is no solution?
>>24805516nice bike
I'm over 30There's nowhere to go and I don't want to spend money I don't have toI didn't have to be this way but my mom decided to spent my inheritance forcing me to go to college and OH LOOK college degrees aren't worth anything and upward mobility is a lie pushed by 60yos who escaped facebook.
>>24805494According to OP’s post having a job is also good for your mental wellbeing.
>>24805516Nice bike man
>>24805488>you are dyingThank you for noticing.
>>24805536>>24805508The 'solution' is going back in time 20 yearsOh wait that's not possibleThe 'solution' is going back in time 5 yearsStill not possibleThe 'solution' is going back to December 16th, 2025OH WAITSTILL NOT POSSIBLEHUh that is pretty crazy, all the solutions would require a hard redo of everything, but that's not possible, so I'll just keep sinking forever.And if I complain that this is because of every person in my life steering me wrong i'll be told I 'can't keep blaming others forever' while I keep sinking, forever.
>>24805533You forgot your memeflag when you posted this for the 55th time back in August of 25
>>24805488Peace and solitude are awesome, touching grass in the sense normgroids mean it, ie going to bars and the gym or whatever are highly overrated. Walking in nature, alone, is nice though
>>24805543Ever since I started doomposting I felt my soul slowly leave my body. I'm like a person who is no longer sapient, nothing more than a collection of meat and preprogrammed directives. I'm no longer capable of making decisions, it's strange.. and it's like it comes from somewhere else. For example: something happens and I just act, I no longer think what's "right" or "wrong". Interestingly, I don't even believe in right or wrong anymore only better and worse.It's like what happened to Phineas Gage. Possibly part of my prefrontal cortex has been irreparably damaged from trauma. My entire personality has changed since doomposting and becoming a doomer. I am no longer the same person, my hopes, dreams, and wishes have all vanished. Now I only care about stress minimization and avoiding conflict.I have nobody to blame but myself, although I'm no longer capable of blame as I can no longer think for myself. And the worst part? I actually like it. I mean, I didn't choose to, I was programmed to, and somehow it worked...
>>24805489Based, I didn't want to get a job after high school so instead I shoved a kitchen knife through my neck and now I am on govt gibs. I clear about 60k total every year, it's not great but it is enough to support my hobbies.I had to spend about 3 months in a psych ward, which was very comfy and had a nice room service menu. Now I can pretty much do whatever I want except leave the country or get a job.
>>24805488i do not worry about the future, because normalnigger goycattle has shown to me time and time again that there isn't one
>>24805535That's why working to me in current year is a humiliation ritual. These vapid whores and worthless men can just stream and make millions playing video games or being whores. At the same time I feel very guilty about being a NEET for so long. My mind is totally split
how the fuck do you actually form connections or make a social life as an adult? I have pretty much 0 opportunities to meet people outside my job >wake up>go to an office where I'm around the same people few every day, and we rarely talk >go home to an empty apartment >repeat
>>24805542>And if I complain that this is because of every person in my life steering me wrong i'll be told I 'can't keep blaming others forever' while I keep sinking, forever.Are you me?This is my exact problem."Other person" has lied and bullshitted and steered me in the wrong direction so much I've become insanely misanthropic. I'm telling humans since too many of them have wronged me and lead me astray I no longer feel the need to respect them, their rights or their property. I will not listen to a single human being lying to me and trying to call it "help".. when it's obviously pure sabotage and projection...I'm writing a novel about it too, a bit.Debunking the idea that "you can't blame others for your problems"...Because "other person" is 100% always the fucking problem.
>>24805549Hobbies other then vidya and porn. But yeah it's brutal.
>>24805488the are ticks in the grass, dumbass.
>>24805550the problem comes down to the Boomer Experience where 'life has downs, but if you work hard, it gets better' and then their downs were like being homeless at 19 because they did acid and their dad kicked them out in 1979, so they bummed around fucking sluts and then got a job from a friend and started a business and it just kind of worked out because the economy was strong or whatever.For people born in the infinite inflationary slide like us, any setback hurts ten times as much, if your parent steals 12,000 bucks and a car from you when you're 22 you're still fucked years later because it takes so much longer to get cash, wages needed to rise 10% a year for the last 10 years to keep up but that hasn't happened so we are always going to eat shit.And because of this you can't just forgive fuckery. But this brings you into conflict, especially with boomers, since in their heads you should just 'work hard and get over it'. But it doesn't work that way because I can't get back to where I was or wanted to be when I was 23, things will just slide forever. Even if they work out when I'm 63, my life will be over by then.
>>24805534I have a squat rack, barbell with 600+ weights, dumbbells, kettlebells, a stationary bike, and a bunch of other shit to keep me busy daily. I literally never need to leave anywhere. It's amazing.
>>24805550>listening to the outside voices steers me wrongThat little voiceInsideIf you obeyWill be your guideWhy do youTry to hideFrom that little voice Inside?
>>24805488saying "one day at a time" like it's a bad thing? ngmi
>>24805488How am I even supposed to have time to go out on weekends? I go to the gym every weekday then on saturdays I do meal prepping + like 2 hours of studying then I go play footy for 2-3 hours. On sundays I clean my house, study a bit more but I am way too tired to even be effective with my time, let alone have any desire to go out. Still, after that I have to fill my expenses, buy somethings online or any other fucking chore thats required. If you really want a healthy body then its impossible to do anything else besides work.I need to get someone to clean and cook for me, for real.
>>24805527Been homeless no problem before, I'll do it again if I have to>>24805528Fuck yeah dude my mom rocks
>>24805488The only solution for this problem is invading neighboring countries and starting a war.Then life will finally be fun again.
>>24805549Talk to people in your office anon. Do small talk, learn their birthdays, bring them cake on their birthdays, ask them about their weekend, remember what they tell you about them.Or go to the gym and little by little start meeting random people. Gym friendships dont run very deep but its way better than nothing.
>>24805560Eeeew brownoid psycho advice.
>>24805488>xitter screenshot>pop psychology invented out of thin air
>>24805488i spend weeks at home without leaving but im outside all the time. today i built this tree stand to shoot deer
>>24805561What's psycho about what I said?
>>24805539Hasn't worked for me yet. Back to NEETing and finally gymmaxxing.
>>24805488comment SEND to get that one step tutorial
>>24805488>Well then you are dying my friend.Thank God
>>24805563Janky
>>24805488Kek. It's on par with men that think women will feel regret without having children or a husband when they're older
>>24805488Total Kike Death Heals the Entire World
>>24805488>>Twitter Screenshot
ive been working from home for years and dont go out unless i need groceriesive never been happier in my life being at home is fucking great
>>24805564Trying to get hooks on your coworkers and invade their private life.People go to work to earn a living, not to make friends with people like you.Same thing with the gym, people go there to work out not to meet random people.
>>24805573Stupid autistic Swede. People at my previous job loved me and it was a fun place to be. Its not "invading" if you ask nicely, if they want to share something its up to them.Making friends at the gym is a bit harder and chitchat runs for shorter amounts of time but you can still just say hi to people you see regularly and have a little bit of community.
>>24805574Well well, you brown people are like children always chitchat fun and games, constantly socializing can't stand solidarity for even a second.
>>24805553>For people born in the infinite inflationary slide like us, any setback hurts ten times as much, if your parent steals 12,000 bucks and a car from you when you're 22 you're still fucked years later because it takes so much longer to get cash, wages needed to rise 10% a year for the last 10 years to keep up but that hasn't happened so we are always going to eat shit.Definitely and I've had this happen. My alcoholic mom and her abusive alcoholic boyfriend stole $2,000 of scholarship money from me after I graduated from HS and kicked me out... I was homeless at 17 and essentially HAD TO go into student loan debt to go a college with a dorm for a roof over my head. It fucks you up to start way behind like that, no vehicle either because that was too expensive for the alcoholics. >And because of this you can't just forgive fuckery. But this brings you into conflict, especially with boomers, since in their heads you should just 'work hard and get over it'. But it doesn't work that way because I can't get back to where I was or wanted to be when I was 23, things will just slide forever. Even if they work out when I'm 63, my life will be over by then.Right, that's my exact problem, people fucked up my career path, my finances, my vehicle situation, my living situation... other people, my "family" and "friends" ruined all that for me and usually it was in the pursuit of pussy for them...Being kicked out of a house so someone's girlfriend/boyfriend can move in is a common theme in my hell. They set you back, it's hard to recover in the inflationary environment.You're a good and worthy anon, though, thanks for being kind and insightful.
>>24805488CHATGPT SLOP
>>24805573>Same thing with the gym, people go there to work out not to meet random people.Nah I'd love to talk to fuckable bitches at the gym it would be a test boost. Most of you candy asses don't even lift hard, so shut the fuck up.
>>24805488total horseshit X slop
>>24805488>all day all againthis language is demoralizing
>>24805578Yeah the women really appreciate when a creep like yourself tries to talk to them at the gym.
>>24805488This new style of get back in the wage cage and spend money in this shit economy cajoling is odd.
>>24805488Busting nuts in jeeta's is pretty fun. I like to wait around for their jeet college friends to return and act alpha around them. They can sense I've been cumming in their women and can smell her cunt juices on my balls.
>>24805488There is nothing outside.
>>24805583That's disgusting Anon. A real racist would never even get near them, not even in a troll post.
>>24805488So what is that one small step?
>>24805512what are you talking about? The life of the normie objectively sucks. A NEETs life with no money also sucks. The goldylocks zone is the NEET with money. Where you have the money and time do to anything you want. Thats how I live, and I tried to live the normie life. I tried to be the 9-5 wagie with a live-in girlfriend working toward engagement, marriage, and having kids. I was miserable. Every relationship I've ever been in, miserable to suicidal. I don't like working all week to come home and find that my weekend is also booked or the constant socialization women expect you to endure. It sucks. I'm not insulting but anyone claiming normie life is winning at life can go fuck themselves. You are a slave with shackles you think you chose. And no one tells you to "rot away". I have a strict health and fitness regimen as well as diet that keeps me youthful, aesthetic, strong, and energetic. I do daily saunas, weight lifting, and cardio. I listen to good music. I eat delicious and healthy food I prepare. At the end of the night I smoke weed out of my bubbler and dick around on 4chan, youtube, play video games, watch sports, whatever. Life is what you make it. I found the life for me that is unassailable. No one can shame me. I haven't been this happy since I was 12 years old at the beginning of summer break. Thats what my life is essentially. Summer break forever. Do what you want in life, anon.
>>24805488I’ve already experienced all of your empty, normie bullshit dude. Fuck society. Better get ready for work tomorrow wagie.
>walk outside>blinded by camera flash from flock camera across the street>step in pile of human feces>nigger music blaring from next street over>police drone overhead demands to see my vaxx report card>stop at food truck for $20 burrito>smelly jeet hands you your mealthink I'll just stay in, thanks anyways
>>24805488I've all heard the lonely people live shorter life span statistics I've all heard the webm with the roastie that says either `adapt` or `die` if you do not `adapt` you do not deserve to continue your genesI've all heard that:/ so your thread is of low value cause all of us know we will not adapt, because the greatest of adaptation is to not listen to what roasties say
>>24805489its all fun and games until your doc prescribes you Lipitor
>>24805587Good effort post. Glad you made it. I'm just venting about how no matter what we say, some troll says it's wrong.Just today I said I work 17 hour shifts during intense manual labor outside... I get called a wagie and loser. Huh. If you're unemployed? You're a loser!If you're employed? You're a loser!4chan loves making us think we can't win doing anything, because all these trolls here want is for you to lose just to gloat at you. I wish I can have you're life but I'm stuck in a permanent hell of poverty my entire life.
>>24805488It is what it is.
>>24805488gotta do laundry and dishes, sorry not sorry normie.
>>24805488I work like 85+ hours a week. I make good money and socialize a bunch. Not only for my work (I own a business) but I do have a few legit friends too. I donate a bunch for kids charity groups. I’m on YouTube too (not a lie). The head honcho figured it would be good to promote the brand through me. My vid isn’t widely viewed by any means but it’s the top viewed one on the channel it was posted on, because I know enough people who were willing to check it out and share it.All of this still ain’t a good way to ‘not die’ because you can see how broken things are in your surroundingsIn my particular case, I cannot for the life of me find a single woman who wants to have a family despite everything I’ve got going for me. Whenever a chick does show some interest, she always gets cold feet and backs off when I try to action that. Being “accessible” suddenly makes them lose interest. It’s pretty nutsMost guys I know cannot even find a good job. I know some dudes that are lonely as fuck and have no friends. Etc. These are all good dudes. They work hard. Do good things for the world and everything. Everyone suffers because socialization got neutered by modern techWhat I’ve learned is that you have to battle your own mind and beat its ass to submission if you want to live well. There are things you simply cannot control and you can’t let that dictate your mood
>>24805488So, then it's a shoah .
It's over.
I went outside today to do a thing, simply go to a park about 15 min>people driving REALLY FUCKING SLOW>insane lunatics driving 50+ mph above the speed limit and honking at you if you don't make the right turn immediately>get to park>sit down and try to calm down>red fire ants start crawling up my legs>move to another spot, sit down and watch the bay>mfw a fat nigger and a fit white girl walk right in front of me>suddenly start to realize there's about 2-3 of these couples here>rest are old people doing old people shit like sitting on a bench and gossiping or reading a book in 105 F heatThere is literally no point in this, the outside world just gets me angry and is hostile. Fuck going outside. I came home and wondered why the fuck I wasted an hour. Then I got angry and started punching the cardboard boxes in my house
>>24805488>This isn't X, it's Ychatgpt slop
>>24805488Good for you.
>>24805592separate yourself from the noise, anon. What life could you live that would make you feel like you're winning at life? Where someone could call you a loser and you truly wouldn't care because you'd never trade places with that person. 4chan is full of all kinds of people: NEETs with no money, NEETs with money, finance/tech bros with lots of money, schizos, 50 year olds who still live with their parents, guys working in warehouses, retail, married men living in giant houses with 2 dogs and 3 kids - the complete normie winner package and so on..... We have the whole gambit here. I have seen people berated and mocked for going to college to get a job, and I've seen people laughed at who let the mocking get to them. Its all over the place. The most prevailing sentiment is that you're only based if you're a NEET with fuck you money, or a business owner who doesn't call anyone boss - but these are rare, fortunate places to find oneself and it all comes back to freedom. If you have freedom then that is based. The closer you can get to saying the types of things you say here in real life with no consequences, the more based. The problem with the wagie is that they are inherently owned for a paycheck and have no freedom. But, you have to start somewhere. Learn finance, anon. Work toward a goal of freedom.
WFH hermit here. Its all true. I can barely go out side to do yard work. The more im inside, the less I go outside. I have to force myself with treats like motorcycle rides, trips to the store for groceries because im fucking starving. But the symptoms never lessen, in fact, they get worse. I am a prisoner in my own home and I am my own keeper.
>>24805489Weakest neet.
>the type of thing mentally ill people, poo & poohammed might make up, click, like, read, repeat. Sad. Please stop existing.
>>24805488The excesses of wealth and modernity will be returned to NatureBillions will die
>>24805488>the longer it lasts, the more distant normal life begins to feelBut if you do it for long enough, surely it just becomes "normal life"?
>>24805488I don't get how people just sit inside all day. I can't do it. I'm a NEET but I have to have something to do. If nothing else just go sit on the beach and fish. If I sit inside all day I start to feel like shit.
mod is a jealous dork who will never get pussy lmao.Go jerk off to clavicular you shitskin indian
I was borderline NEET in the years before the pandemic, so while every retard was losing their minds, I just felt like another day to me. I guess I was the retard after all! But its annoying to watch normies act hysterical over how isolation fucked them up. Like no it didn't. But I'm a retard so what do I know.Getting outside is always a good thing, makes you feel more human. Unfortunately my career is in the shitter and at 33 will probably have to figure out another line of work. I love money now and am very materialistic so I would go back to school for a real job if I can figure out a way to make it work. I is dumb but can grind if I need to which is all that matters.Haven't had any puss puss either, so maybe I can squeeze in a little action here and there.But financially I'm fucked. So the new God (Money) consumes me. I need so much fuck you money but here I am on this basket weaving forum. The only reason is because I am stressed, depressed, and anxious to the point of indecision and paralysis.
>>24805601Thanks for the kind words man. I appreciate it.>he most prevailing sentiment is that you're only based if you're a NEET with fuck you money, or a business owner who doesn't call anyone boss - but these are rare, fortunate places to find oneself and it all comes back to freedom.That's what I'm sick of because it's everywhere and draining.It's male vs male ego competition. Dudes love putting other dudes down to feel better about themselves and feel they're winning/gaining.
Mods killed a good thread because it wasn't a leftist concern trolling echo chamber.
