>>24815333Trips of truth.
Yes, but what about black Jesus ?
>>24815333I used to talk smack about the sky daddy believers and now i am saved myselfIts such a crazy change and so thankful for all that has happened to know god
Religion is a mental illness.
>>24815580Righteous guy
>>24817383i used to think this and can see how it seems that wayfaith is a strange thing for those without it
Lot of people talking about bout nigga jesus
>>24818057For humanity.
>>24818279A good example that no matter how high we climb, we can always fall.
>>24820354faith is what picked me up from my several story fall to rock bottoms basement, it wasnt the faith that ruined me, its what saved me
>>24820398What I really meant was that, no matter how smart you are or how close you are to the truth of things, you can always drift apart and end up in a completely different place from where you were previously, regressing all your progress. That's what I think at least.
>>24820424knowledge is cumulative though, if anything i've gained so much more than i previously thought possible because of my new found faiththere are answers in having faith you wouldnt know possible prior to committing oneself to itone thing that was very interesting on my journey is trying to disprove the bible and its story (New Testament)there are certainly things in the old testament that are allegoric and just a story, anyone with reasoning and logic can deduce that (IE: adam and eve)one thing to keep in mind is that the bible was inspired by god, but written by man, there are flaws, its imperfect no matter how much screeching some try to say it isanother thing thats super annoying is those who have faith that think themselves better than others or have some sort of higher moral authority just because 'i believe in le god' which is counter to what Christ taught
>>24820424I needed to hear that. I was getting ready to snap. Thanks
>>24815333Christianity was a smart religion, it integrated many things, and well, nonetheless, the only thing Jesus saves you from is thinking for yourself, which is baaaad, and ironically leads to soullessness. Because I have Ego, I reject Jesus and save myself.
>>24820398>faith is what picked me up from my several story fall to rock bottoms basement, it wasnt the faith that ruined me, its what saved mejust because a mindset helped with your mental state or helped you get your life in order doesn't mean it's actually based on the truth>one thing that was very interesting on my journey is trying to disprove the bible and its story (New Testament)starting with the assumption that an extraordinary claim is true and working backwards to try to disprove it is not a good way to get to the truth. you should assume an extraordinary claim is false until you collect enough evidence that supports it.
>>24821306what part do you think is untrue?>you should assume an extraordinary claim is false until you collect enough evidence that supports ittrue, but that means you gotta read up before you can claim you understand what is actually in the bible. Before I read the NT I completely misunderstood what it contained. even after reading it i still thought it was false including the resurrection for the longest time, that took a while for me to wrap my head aroundthere is a lot of context missing from the bible that takes additional research to understand relative contextmany have tried to disprove it and have become believers in the process which is also pretty fascinating. its now how it happened to me>>24821264i've found it very empowering, but yes letting go of ego is a tough one for manyhumility is very tough for many and no one is perfect which IS the grace of god
>>24821553>what part do you think is untrue?all of the supernatural stuff at least>many have tried to disprove it again, when you're talking about an extraordinary claim, you have to prove it, not start with the assumption that it happened and then try to disprove it
>>24821564>all of the supernatural stuff at leastgod will not come to you if you do not invite him into your life which is the beauty of free willso it takes a willing action on your part to start thatfor me i started talking to the universe and praying consistently until one day he revealed himself and everything changed after that>again, when you're talking about an extraordinary claim, you have to prove it, not start with the assumption that it happened and then try to disprove iti already agreed with you on this and thats where they all start (even me)they cant believe anyone would believe this stuff and think its all false, then when they try to disprove it they become believers in the process
>>24821633>until one day he revealed himself and everything changed after thathow do you know that what you saw or experienced was actually something supernatural? outside of the social context of religion talking to someone who isn't there and suddenly starting to see or hear things would be a sign of possible psychosis most of the time.>i already agreed with you on thisand then used the same terminology again, which made me think you didn't understand what I was trying to say
>>24815333prove it
>>24820354The higher you feel you have climbed the lower you actually are. Jesus saved me from the valley of the shadow of death and I am grateful that I was brought there so I could know Jesus in such a rock solid manner. In all my days of this life I shall not waver from faith and God will comfort me for all my days.Amen
Psalm 23The LORD Is My ShepherdA Psalm of David. [1] The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. [2] He makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still waters. [3] He restores my soul. He leads me in paths of righteousness for his name’s sake. [4] Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me. [5] You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies; you anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows. [6] Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life, and I shall dwell in the house of the LORD forever.
>>24821663>how do you know that what you saw or experienced was actually something supernatural?there is no tangible way to describe the experience in a way that makes sense to anyone who hasnt had it happen to thembut it was an undeniable and unique esperience>starting to see or hear things would be a sign of possible psychosis most of the time.yeah i get that it sounds crazy, i really do and thats what makes faith difficult is that it sounds that way until its something you've experienced or understand on a deeper levelfaith does not make logical sense and is very personal
>>24822002Thank you for sharing your testimony."And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death."
>>24822014trying my best, and pray to be more bold with it in the real world which is a huge challenge for mehopefully sharing my unique entry into faith will help others find their path into what has become the best thing that has ever happened to meim thankful every day
>>24822002do you believe psychosis exists? like do you acknowledge that there are people that have a form of mental illness where they see and experience things that do not correspond with reality?
>>24822556yes of course, certainly
>>24822574wouldn't you have to acknowledge there's some possibility that the stuff you're experiencing is not real, then? I know you don't believe this is the case, but wouldn't you have to see how it's possible?
>>24822589yeah thats faith for you and why i said 'faith does not make logical sense' and why its 'faith' I fully comprehend what it looks like to someone like yourself because I thought similarly prior to my acceptanceto be clear, yes, i see how thats possible and wouldnt deny it
