The "god" of the OT is not the same God as the One revealed in the NT.Just read Exodus 12 and it becomes clear.>He was a murderer from the beginningThis is what Jesus says about Yahweh. Read John 8.More evidence:https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/18623179/yahweh-satanImage: OT
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>>24827289Jesus constantly quoted the Tanach (Old Testament) so by that logic he himself was a Satanisthttps://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1060&context=second_person
>>24827289Correct.Christ killed yahweh.
>>24827289>>24827290Take your meds
>Then they asked him, “Where is your father?”>“You do not know me or my Father,” Jesus replied. “If you knew me, you would know my Father also.”But they do know Yahweh. Yahweh is all over the Old Testament. They talk with Yahweh, they worship him, they follow him, he teaches them how to prepare food ritualistically, etc.>But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.The Father is higher than Yahweh, who is a fallen angel. The Father was unknown until he chose to reveal Himself through Jesus Christ. This is literally what Jesus is saying here.>No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us. 1 John 4No one has ever seen God, but many people have seen Yahweh. See also John 1:18.The Father cannot be the OT-"god". It's literally in the Bible.It is a loving Father, not one who goes around slaughtering newborns or demanding circumcision. Yahweh demanded circumcision because he wanted to defile God's creation. This is why the NT, which is about the real God and Jesus Christ, is against circumcision.
>>24827294Jesus himself was circumcised (Luke 2:21). Try actually reading the New Testament.
>>24827295Yes, he was also murdered. He suffered a lot under Yahweh's rule.
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>>24827289Jesus Christ is the incarnation of Yahweh.Jesus Christ is the God of the Old Testament.
>>24827296And yet he constantly preached the Old Testament / recited quotes from "Satan's Holy Book" >>24827291What a forgiving guy! This is where you Gnostics really fuck up your cosmogony. You can't have it both ways of the OT being Satanic and Jesus not being Satanic.
>>24827294They know about Yahweh, but Jesus explicitly says they do not actually know God. That is precisely the indictment.In John 8:19 Jesus says, “You know neither me nor my Father. If you knew me, you would know my Father also.” Later in the same chapter he tells them, concerning the Father, “He is the one who glorifies me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God.’ Yet you have not known him” (John 8:54–55).That last statement is decisive. Jesus identifies his Father as the very God whom his Jewish opponents claim as “our God.” His accusation is not, “You worship Yahweh, but my Father is somebody else.” It is, “You claim Him as your God, but you do not actually know Him.”So familiarity with the Old Testament, temple worship, circumcision, dietary laws, etc. does not establish that they genuinely know God. According to Jesus, their rejection of the Son demonstrates that they do not know the Father either.They know about Yahweh and claim Yahweh as their God, but Jesus says they do not truly know Him. In fact, Jesus explicitly identifies his Father as the one whom they call ‘our God’ (John 8:54–55). Their rejection of Jesus proves that their supposed knowledge of God is false.
>>24827300>of whom you say, ‘He is our God.’ Yet you have not known himSays it all>>24827299He was arguing with the pharisees all the time. He has to say *something*. He accepted the reality he lived. He lived under the law, fulfilled it and this is why he was able open the scroll in Revelation 5.
>>24827301John 8:54-55 (NIV) - 54 Jesus replied, “If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. 55 Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and obey his word.John 8:54-55 (ESV) - 54 Jesus answered, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God.’ 55 But you have not known him. I know him. If I were to say that I do not know him, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and I keep his word.Jesus Christ states that His Father (Yahweh) is the God that they (the pharisees) claim to worship without truly knowing.
>/pol/ is finally waking upcould it be?
Yahweh and Baal started as rival, yet very similar, warfaring tribal deities. El was the original benevolent creator/father god of their pantheon, similar to modern Yahweh. As the Yahweh tribe expanded and conquered their rivals, so too did their god's place in the pantheon expand.Once Yahweh was the most powerful among the tribes, he replaced El, taking on his role and aspects. Then some ancient Hebrew priest wrote the single most influential line in history:>You shall have no other gods before meBefore this, the Hebrew pantheon was much like the Greek pantheon, every tribe's god was explained into a shared story. But Yahweh demanded a spot above the rest, and eventually full monotheism. Rome fell to the paradox of tolerance: the Roman pantheon was fine with Yahweh's addition, but the new Christians could not tolerate the Romans, toppling their temples and burning heretics within a century or two of their religion's introduction.Some fellow gods like Baal and Asharah became demonic under Christianity, while others like El were mostly forgotten. Uri-El, Casti-El, Gabri-El...
OP is a lying kike and wants you to believe in hippy/nice/feelings-based Jesus. Most likely a sodomite as well and copes by telling himself God will forgive him for being an unrepentant HIV spreading cock sucker.Spoiler: He won’t.
>>24827301If you already love Jesus Christ in the New Testament, you ought to love Him in the Old Testament as well. The Angel of Yahweh is the preincarnate form of God the Son. Whenever you read about the Angel of Yahweh in the Old Testament, you are reading about the preincarnation of Jesus Christ.Do not despise the Old Testament, for those are the Words of God, just like the New Testament. You cannot have one without the other. Altogether they comprise the Holy Bible. You cannot love the Son and hate His Father, whereas the pharisees claim to love the Father while hating His Son.Love both, with all your heart, and may Jesus Christ baptize you with the Holy Spirit.
>>24827289utter retardation and coperabbi yeshua references the old testament hundreds of times and its literally where he gets his credibility as the "messiah"christcuckery is a jewish mindvirus and no amount of cope will change that
>>24827307cope cope cope
>>24827304This is correct, it's almost like.. One of God's creations rose up against him out of pride to take his place.Almost.Almost like the god of the jews is...
People need to understand that these dogmas are designed specifically to enslave the masses. Anyone telling you they speak on behalf of creation is a lying jew. What arrogance does it take to think you can speak on behalf of creation?
>>24827306correction: The Angel of Yahweh is a preincarnate manifestation of God the Son.Thank you for your time.
The old testament was practically made up over night. Its not going to e consistent.Yahweh is the devil though
>>24827298Why don’t jews worship Christ then? Jesus is the antithesis of your gay demon yahweh.
>>24827312>The old testament was practically made up over night.yeah, you're completely full of shit and have no ida what you're talking aobut
>>24827313All true Jews do worship Christ. Jesus Christ is the incarnation of Yahweh.
>>24827315>all true Scotsman Shalom
God is love, brother. And sometimes a loving father has to show His children justice. Sometimes He has to prove that He is God and that He is in charge. When you read the Bible, there is only one single person in there without sin, and we all fall short of His glory. Jesus was God in human flesh, and sacrificed Himself. If He sacrificed just a normal human, He could not be considered a loving and just father. So he took on human form, lived a clean and sinless life (which literally nobody in the history of the world can say they have done), and sacrificed Himself as a clean offering to pay for our sins. God never destroys without reason; He takes care of His people, He protects His people, He loves His people. As much as I see the Christian revival happening in 2026, I see demonic forces trying to steer people away. If Christianity wasn't seeing such an uprise, threads like this wouldn't exist. Satan FEARS the Word of the Lord. Satan works through our fears to make us doubt God, or shun Him. But trust me when I say that the Devil is a fucking retard who has already lost and is grasping at straws to try to gain some semblance of authority. But God has the ultimate authority, and Satan is a loser.
>>24827316Nope, it's just Truth.Romans 2:28-29 - 28 For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. 29 But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God.Romans 9:6 - 6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel,The "jews" that have sold you out to their father, Satan, are just one pagan denomination among many who all together reject Christ. Those "jews" are actually your spiritual brothers, united in your hatred of Christ together.Netanyahu, Trump, and Epstein are perfect examples of non-Christian heroes & leaders etc.
You know what fuck off, either god can explain it and fix this confusing bullshit or we should put religion on the back burner until he does.Cause otherwise I'm not going to waste my time with this shit.
>>24827319>either god can explain itRead the Bible for the explanation of how and why this world works the way that it does. Make sure to ask God for illumination through the Holy Spirit. I hope that all goes well in your study.
>>24827320>read the heavily edited book of second and third-hand retellings years after the alleged impossible events, with multiple volumes missingalready did, actually, and all it explained is that the religion is nonsense.
>>24827315Yeah you're full of shit. May your wicked deeds be known to all normies and may god smite you from this earth.
>>24827320>Read the Bible for the explanationNo thanks tranny.It's not my job to fix God's problems however he or they may or may not be (though one is likely more real than the other).Honestly you know what buddy I don't give a fuck who god is. If he wants to be popular maybe pop by a few more times rather than just random intervals around some mentally ill jewish guys.I'm more focused on finishing the work of my ancestor Yakub and finish the philosopher stone.Then maybe we I meet the fellow I can ask if OP was a faggotHint: he was.
>>24827321>Make sure to ask God for illumination through the Holy SpiritPeople not being guided by the Holy Spirit will be unable to truly comprehend the Holy Bible.>>24827322I'm sorry you feel this way, feel better soon.
>>24827302He's telling the pharisee they don't know the father which Jesus refers to. They could be talking about the same, but it seems like they aren't. That's what he is pointing out in those quotes.
>>24827289>>540716989
The whole thing just exists so that jews have a hail mary to hide behind when people get fed up with their shit. And the Christians job is to deradicalize the "bad pagans" like us and make sure they are pacified by the jews suddenly finding jesus as soon as the propaganda stops working. The whole thing is bullshit from the top down even if you still believe in God.
>>24827326I don't care if you pieces of shit found christ. Too little too late. And I thought it was up to God to judge you anyhow. I prefer it that way so we don't have to deal with your stupid faggot bullshit here on earth.
>>24827324>holy SpiritI asked god when I was "guided by the holy spirit" as in when I was Christian.what you're saying is that it's the fault of the holy spirit and not me. I went looking and found nonsense. the holy spirit must be a shit guide.
>>24827289>Yahweh is SatanWhy are christians so theologically retarded? Satan is Yahweh’s enemy. That literally what the word Satan means.
Modern “jews” don’t even follow the Ten Commandments, so I don’t know what they’re supposed to be. Demon worship certainly isn’t out of the question.
>>24827323Alright.>>24827325>My Father, whom you claim as your God>It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God.’Jesus Christ is telling the pharisees that the God (Yahweh) whom they (the pharisees) claim to be their God, is His (Jesus Christ) Father.>>24827327>>24827328The truth of the matter is this. This world belongs to Christ and His saints, whom are called as Christians. The Christian is to bring as many as possible to the light of Christ.Every non-Christian, regardless of background/creed/upbringing/etc. is at risk of being thrown into the lake of fire to perish if they have not been sealed with the Holy Spirit.>>24827329How are you so sure that you were Christian? What made you sure?>>24827331"In Revelation 2:9 and 3:9, the phrase "those who say they are Jews and are not" refers to individuals who claimed Jewish identity but rejected Jesus as the Messiah. These groups are described as the "synagogue of Satan" and are characterized by persecuting early Christians and spreading slander against them."
>>24827331In this case, since God calls them the Synagogue of Satan...then surely we can simply call those "jews" Satanists?
>>24827331Jews, like Christians think “demons” are pagan gods and they detest them.. which is why they call them demons.
>>24827301According to you though that "Law" is Satan's law
>>24827332>The Christian is to bring as many as possible to the light of Christ.And away from Paganism. Christians are foot soldiers for jewish ideals.
>>24827332>How are you so sure that you were Christian?how are you sure that you are, anon?
>>24827332>The Christian is to bring as many as possible to the light of Christ.Which is a futile and suicidal time-wasting effort when you are dealing with rabid psychopathic jews who want to murder you. So you can stay busy doing that, but it's going to have the opposite effect. People will think you are a retard who refuses to defend himself and learn from your example. Christians are driving people away from christ with their collective incompetence and weakness.
>>24827333And so since those "jews" are Satanists, then they are truly filled with an antichrist spirit. And these antichristians have unfortunately led the world into believing that Christians are at fault despite evidence to the contrary.>>24827334Demons are the disembodied, rejected souls of the Nephilim. Nephilim are the hybrid offspring of fallen angels + humans resulting in "demigods" like Gilgamesh, Hercules, Theseus, Achilles, etc.The fallen angels themselves are the actual "gods" of the pagan pantheons, these false idols desire nothing more than to see humanity brought to ruin.>>24827336You are referring to "rabbinic judaism" which is a pagan religion. Christianity is the only Abrahamic religion in this world, the rest are pagan ideologies & religions.>>24827337Because I trust Him.
>>24827339>You are referring to "rabbinic judaism" which is a pagan religionJust lying
>>24827339You in this very same thread discuss how your goal is not to seek justice for the victims of jews, but to dissuade anyone from doing so as long as they confess their sins and pretend to be Christian, and it will always be pretend with them. You are a tare.
>>24827339>The fallen angels themselves are the actual "gods" of the pagan pantheons, these false idols desire nothing more than to see humanity brought to ruin.Europe was at it’s strongest when they ruled so more lies.
>>24827289You're only partially correct, as the NT god is the same Semitic demon as in the OT.
>>24827324>People not being guided by the Holy Spirit will be unable to truly comprehend the Holy Bible. or put another way, you should try gaslighting yourself until 2+2=5
>>24827291>Quoting something means endorsing itIaldabaoth has truly blinded his followers
>>24827339>because Iyea, that's what I thought.so did i, anon, and then I realized there is no "him" not trust. glad that's working for you.
>>24827345Jesus is the fulfillment of the torah you absolute retard.
>>24827345Preaching verses from the Tanach directly to his followers definitely does count as endorsing it lol
>>24827289This is correct. Judaism is Satanism because YHVH is Satan. Jewish behavior is so bad because their god YHVH is Satan
>>24827348Every time Jesus said "You have heard it said, but I say onto you" he was directly contradicting the Tanach. If Jesus believed in Tanach he would have thrown the first stone at the woman accused of adultery, etc etc etc, but instead he directly contradicted it
>>248273382 Corinthians 4:3-4 - 3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.I am not concerned with those who will never accept Christ, I understand to not preach towards them. I am concerned with those lost sheep who belong to Christ yet are still spiritually dead in their sin.>>24827340>Just lyingcan you prove this assertion? I will prove mine. Jesus Christ is the God of Abraham. To be "Abrahamic" is to have the faith of Abraham, the same faith that rests in Yahweh: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.Galatians 3:7-9 - 7 Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. 8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “In you shall all the nations be blessed.” 9 So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.>>24827341I'm not quite sure why you are bearing false witness against me. Both mercy & justice will be had through Yahweh, I have faith that He will handle it accordingly.>>24827342When they "ruled" they had your pagan ancestors killing & enslaving each other, selling each other to the Mohammedans through the merchant rabbinic jews. What you see today happening in Europe is basically a repetition of being sold back to the Mohammedans.>>24827346So again, How were you so sure you were Christian?1 John 2:19 - 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.There is no such thing as a "former Christian." There is only Christian & non-Christian in this world.
>>24827349Go say “Hail Satan” to a bunch of orthodox jews and see what happens. Stop lying.
>>24827349This is when it clicked for me. Jesus wasn't born on Dec 25th either, that holiday is when they trick goyim into worshipping cronus. Its all tricks.
>>24827345He was preaching it dipshit
You literally can not argue with christians because they make shit up as they go along. They are some of the most despicable lying deceivers on the planet. We are totally fucked because of these idiots. Shame on all of you.
>>24827352You think performative outrage is an indicator of true faith? You don't think that reaction is just a means of shutting down a noticing event? How did the orthodox jews react when Iranians were burning Ba'al statues?
>>24827355Neighbor, why are you upset?
>>24827289pray tell what does ye-shua mean? should I quote the NT where it explains the name for you?
>>24827350Matthew 5:18>I tell you the truth. Nothing will disappear from the law until heaven and earth are gone.He told his followers the Law of the Old Testament would endure until the end times. How do you square that?
>>24827358Yahweh is Salvation!Hallelujah!
>>24827356>How did the orthodox jews react when Iranians were burning Ba'al statues?They laughed because Baal is an idol of Jupiter and is antithetical to their God Yahweh.
>>24827289"I am He""Before Abraham, I am""Peter, after all this you still do not recognize me? If one has seen me they have seen the Father.""I have come to reveal what was hidden from the beginning.""Upon his thigh was written, King of kings and Lord of lords.""The only way to the Father is through me.""Do not be deceived, i have not come bearing peace but a sword.""Until heaven and earth shall pass away, not one speck, not one penstroke, shall pass from the law."
>>24827347>God says you have to obey the law>God sends in Jesus, tells Jesus that he's King>Jesus tells people that He's King>that's illegal though you can't beKing>so Jesus has to die lol>everyone Jesus knows that could step in and say something just says "no I don't know the guy" insteadI don't know if the resurrection makes this any more stupid or sad.>>24827351>>24827340Technically "pagan" is Latin for "country." When Christianity took over Rome, everyone in the country stuck to the old gods. So the word for "country people" became the word for "non-Christian people."Then you take your slang words minted in 400 AD and try to work them backwards to 95 AD prophecy and earlier letters.It always cracks me up when people arguing theology about THE TRUE GOD just make shit up and pull shit out of their ass but you know juxtaposition is in the closeness of the opposites.
>>24827351>I have faith that He will handle it accordingly.Two more weeks
>>24827351same as you, anon, I trusted him.your platitudes are meaningless and you continue to blame the holy spirit and God for me losing my faith. I went looking: nothing was there. I trusted someone: they weren't there.Since you like dealing in black and white circumstances: Either you admit that god himself decided that I am not a Christian or you admit that your ideology is nonsense.
>>24827294krautslice over here making the same mistake as the legalist worldly deadmen walkingChrist is criticizing the trend of taking of spiritual things and making them material. Sacrifices, circumcision, all forms of ritual, where not about their practice in the material. They were outward reflections of internal spiritual matters.
>>24827332>>24827333I’m aware of what Jesus says in Revelation, and I agree that it makes the most sense >>24827334Pagan “gods” are totally fictional. It’s simple, pagan “gods” are supposed to interfere in human affairs. If I curse the name of Zeus, he’s supposed to strike me down with a bolt of lightning. But try as I might, nothing ever happens when I curse Zeus’ name. The one God is different, and sensible, he has other creations, he doesn’t necessarily “care” about humans in the way that a pagan “god” ought to. I don’t have proof of my claims, but that’s consistent with the idea of “faith”, from my point of view.
>>24827352Jews believe that Satan is YHVH's obedient servant, look it up or ask them
>>24827361>Baal is an idol of Jupiter and is antithetical to their God Yahweh.Is Yahweh is represented by Saturn then?
>>24827367Nothing ever happens when I curse Jesus
>>24827289I STILL THINK JESUS SUCKS ASS BUT YAHWEH IS NOT HIS NAME LOLJEHOVAH I DONT THINK IS EITHERHIS NAME IS WELLI AMEL ROIEL SHADDAIADONAIיהוה
>>24827370>when I curse JesusFor what?
>>24827369Yahweh is a Saturnic figure yes but you’re going to stupidly associate the word Saturn with Satan. Saturn isn’t Satan. Jupiter is Satan.
>>24827342Christians conquered the entire planet lol
>>24827367So you have faith pagan gods are fake and your God is real simply because your God said he does nothing and behold nothing happens when you pray to him?
>>24827367you have to pronounce is right like ZDzeosare you could use his Latin name "IOVE" however that cluster of letters is pronounced hahahahaha
>>24827303I see a suspicious lack of pagan books there. And atheism has always been battered down by cuckolds vouching for it.
>>24827289Christianity is for slaves
>>24827373>Jupiter is Satan.So ... Jupiter is based because it is oppositional to the donkey headed transgender demon Yahweh, that they are deceived into worshipping every Christmas? Should the goyim worship Jupiter instead, and give this demon something new to seethe about, other than its ex wife? Such a bunch of nonsense haha
>>24827375The "name of God" was kept secret by the jews and only pronounced by the high priest on a special ritual once a year. Wizards of old coveted the name of God, trying to invoke him for this purpose or that. They kept their notes secret too.
>>24827377>durrrrryou see the texts that are causing the most, if not all problems in the world.
>>24827379>So ... Jupiter is based Yes. That’s the psy op of the bible or the red pill . It’s to turn the God of Rome into the enemy (Satan). Hail Satan in a metaphorical sense. (watch how the christians will attack me now because they’re essentially programmed robots)
>>24827359The law of the Old Testament, the Ten Commandments at least, generally aligns with the teachings of Jesus so it’s fine. He just added and modified some things.
>>24827365Don’t listen to that anon, saying anything like “non-believers simply lack the presence of the Holy Spirit” is extremely presumptive, and I reject that ideology
abrahamoids will hang
>>24827370Nothing is supposed to happen, lol>>24827375That’s not the only logic involved here, but it is part of it, and what you’ve said is very sensible. If I could simply pray to God and receive things in return, that would be a pointless reality. It’s too easy. As I said, God doesn’t love us in the way that a parent loves their child, so he certainly wouldn’t be giving out boons to humans on the regular, or at all, in my opinion.
>>24827384Don't exclude the possibility out of hand. God personally condemns people without Greek "pistis" to die. This is usually translated as "believers" but in spoken Greek was more of a force of trust between close family members. But Greek athletes also credited "pistis" as the secret to their victory sometimes, in a context that hadn't heard of Christianity. These Greek words that God speaks are older than Christianity, often older than the Old Testament's latest compositional estimate of 300 BC.
>>24827302I have no horse in this race but what are these new versions and what it rewritten throughout the ages by church run by people who had stuff to gain with their influence and whatnot
>schizobabble on top of schizobabbledidn't askpolitics?
>>24827388> but what are these new versionsThe Old Testament was written in Hebrew. The New Testament was written in Greek, and some enterprising spirit of the time also rewrote the Old Testament around that time into Greek for easier sharing. Rome's papacy managed to establish Latin as one of the three "holy languages" somehow too. There was a Latin Bible printed out as well long ago.Relatively few people understand these languages now (I'm not claiming to be an expert in Hebrew), so people want English translations. The old scholars that did all this translation legwork from ancient texts are actually all mostly dead. Their successors attempt to lecture clergyman in current times when ministers go through seminary.>what it rewritten throughout the ages by church run by people who had stuff to gain with their influence and whatnotMost Christians will scream and say it's impossible to tamper with the Bible but realistically whatever words they hold up were translated by dead people, who they don't know the names of. At least we have good copies of the originals.>why was the word for "pharmacist" replaced with "sorcerer?"
>>24827289Christcucks are the most amazing people on all of Earth with their degree of delusions and coping. Only trannies can compete with Christcucks when it comes to ignoring reality in favor of their retarded beliefs.The Christcuck will make every single long shot absurd claim about his faith simply to never have to accept the nature of what Jesus was. A Jewish priest (Rabbi) that attended the priestly temple, taught of the semitic national god Yahweh, was circumcised in the jewish fashion, and that all the writers of the text were also Jewish priests. They will make the absolutely most braindead claims of how jews aren't jews (lol) despite the exact same beliefs. They will say that Yahweh is Satan despite Satan showing in opposition (lit: adversary) to Yahweh in the opening verses.Do Christcucks deserve pity, mocking, or simply laughter?
>>24827381>Mao>StalinMhm.
>>24827392are they gods?
>>24827391I don't know, but you should be spreading your ass for Vishnu
>>24827393Might as well be with cult of personality and how many of their own they killed, lmao.
>>24827391Christianity is like the alien from The Thing. It adapts and changes form to keep itself alive.
>>24827394I don't do gay sex or believe in third world mysticism. But I'm sure your gay orgies are fantastic anon.
>>24827391As I said in a previous comment, so-called “jews” do not even follow their own Law. In fact, they make a mockery of it. So how are they even “jews”? I don’t care that Jesus was jewish, “jewish” doesn’t mean “bad”.
>>24827391Bible God and the Accuser both play by the same rules. But Bible God was first and therefore right to rule, or so I would assume. The Accuser serves a purpose where he always looks for flaws in Bible God's words and plans.
>>24827289>The "god" of the OT is not the same God as the One revealed in the NT.WRONG.
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>>24827401Wonder (((who))) might be behind such beliefs?
>>24827396Not really, just read the words of Jesus Christ and everything begins to align and finally makes sense. Adding anything on top of that is heresy.
>>24827398>As I said in a previous comment, so-called “jews” do not even follow their own Law.You mean the people that perform ritual circumcision, consider themselves descendants of the Jewish patriarchs, believe that Yahweh gave them a promised land in the Levant, believe in their superiority and consider others as Amalek fit for destruction, use subtle techniques of power acquisition, fuck over foreign civilizations just like in old times, and overly obsessed with material goods.You're saying those Jews.... aren't like the Jews of the Old Testament!?Fascinating. Tell us more!
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>>24827289OT God and NT God are incompatible with each other.
what does a nigger have to do to get a real christ these days?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPHyR92MQic&ra=m
>>24827403>Not really, just read the words of Jesus Christ and everything begins to align and finally makes sense. Adding anything on top of that is heresy.It starts to “make sense” to you because it’s a mind control book.
>>24827289>The "god" of the OT is not the same God as the One revealed in the NT.You're a religious retard, and even at that you're bad. You know nothing of your own book or worship and need to patch lies you were fed with other lies of your own.
>>24827289>>24827290>>24827294Nobody:Retarded pedophile Satan worshipping kikes: UM ACTUALLY JESUS IS SATAN!!!!put kikes in camps
>>24827403not really, it only confuses things more.I understand reading Christ's words, ignoring the messiah/yahweh nonsense, and thinking that he was pretty alright. but that's it.
>>24827410>reddit meme >reddit spacinggo back.
>>24827397>He thinks he has a choiceSpread those cheeks, boi
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>>24827295This is to show that even if you've been marked in the flesh it doesnt stop you from being saved, its only when you're marked in the soul revelations that you cannot be saved.
>>24827415You’re in a cult
>>24827404>Thou shall not kill>murders children by the thousands in GazaWhat did the real jews mean by this?
>>24827413>Christcucks are so low on personal agency that they will allow themselves to get anally raped by literal imaginary beingsLMAO. Man you guys are something else.
Rabbi Yeshuah, your God, adopted everything from the Old Testament, Jewish Tradition and Halakhah as given. The Old Testament, the Tanakh, itself was built on an amalgamation of Egyptian cults with the cult of the Sumero-Semitic God El or Ilu and his 72 Elohim sons who were worshipped by others but not Israelites. Later, Israelites started to worship a storm God YHWH which was an equivalent to Baals or Zeus in Greece and then merged him with the figure of El, the first-mover, in the same way that Zeus took over the role of Dyeus Pater as the omnigod.
>>24827411Fair, well then, just align your behavior with the teachings of Christ and you’ll be fine. I don’t think anyone needs to do any more than that, in reality.
>>24827417Nobody tell this guy about the amount of conquest and murder Jews committed in Biblical text. Poor thing couldn't read.
>>24827414Not a single one of those words means what is written on there.
>>24827289Du bist krank im kopf. Heil Wotan!Das Schwein als Kriterium für Nordische Völker und Semiten.
>>24827423I share the sentiment, but what's Wotan?
>>24827421So most of those “jews” were always fake jews anyway? It’s really fucking incredibly simple, if you don’t follow the commandments, you’re not in the group. They’re commandments, not fucking guidelines lmao.
>>24827290>>24827291>>24827289I'm classical Latin the ablative form of Jupiter(ivppiter) is iove or when verbally said in classical Latin, yahwehIs yahweh Jupiter? iove also became jove like the saying by jove, I've got it if you're a boomer you might remember that
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>>24827425>So most of those “jews” were always fake jews anyway?>It’s really fucking incredibly simple, if you don’t follow the commandments, you’re not in the group.You forgot the part where the Hebrew national god doesn't give a fuck about Jews doing wrong. They're still his "chosen" people and they always bounce back from bad behavior in some meme redemption scheme where they don't do anything good but he "forgives" them and now they're even more important to him.Why didn't your precious Rabbi Yeshua appear as a Scythian or Roman far away from Jerusalem, dumbass. We both know why, you're just unwilling to face reality because you are a Christcuck which means you lie to yourself.
>>24827425>comandments exist>you shall not murder>orders the jews to murder children women and livestock anyways
>>24827427Stop
>>24827426>>24827427Based on what archeology has unveiled, YHWH was a storm God believed to be an equivalent of some Baals and yes, possibly an equivalent to Zeus / Jupiter and one of the 72 semitic sons of El.The Israelites merged the figures of El, the first-mover Dyeus Otiosus with that of their patron deity YHWH but that patron deity comes later both in the tanakh and in the very names: Isra-El itself being an example.If this theory is right, it also opens the door to another one, the same thing happening in the Aryan areas of europe where the original Deus Otiosus, Deus Pater would be cannibalized and replaced in function by Zeus / Jupiter, but in this case, after losing much of his attributes.
>religion is an adaptation of the one before it and tries to cover up the previous religion to gain supremacy no surprise.
>>24827317You are well-meaning, but so am I.>Take a bunch of hyssop, dip it into the blood in the basin and put some of the blood on the top and on both sides of the doorframe. None of you shall go out of the door of your house until morning. 23 When the Lord goes through the land to strike down the Egyptians, he will see the blood on the top and sides of the doorframe and will pass over that doorway, and he will not permit the destroyer to enter your houses and strike you down.>At midnight the Lord struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner, who was in the dungeon, and the firstborn of all the livestock as well. 30 Pharaoh and all his officials and all the Egyptians got up during the night, and there was loud wailing in Egypt, for there was not a house without someone dead.Exodus 12We see a blood ritual and mass murder, including children.Then we see these verses in the NT:>No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.Yet, in Exodus 12, the "LORD" is seen.>No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.John 1:18Conclusion: the "LORD" is not God.>Then they asked him, “Where is your father?”>“You do not know me or my Father,” Jesus replied.Jesus' Father does not go from house to house and kills firstborns if the door is not marked with blood. Do you say he does this? In the OP link there are other hints. Like the episode with snakes vs bread, etc.>You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
>>24827424>WotanThe root word for "God" in the English language comes from Godan > Woden
>>24827429If we’re taking the Old Testament as historical fact, then your arguments fail. “Jews” are punished, by their own God, multiple times, and oftentimes in a collective fashion, through plagues and exile and such. So they’re not universally “Chosen” in the sense of being habitually granted success by God. Jesus appeared where he did because he was the Messiah…again I don’t care that he was jewish.
>>24827430That’s why I take issue with the Old Testament
>>24827432So why would the people of Zeus do this to the people of Yahweh if they were worshipping the same God? You guys may actually be mentally handicapped. Yahweh is a modern name for Yod Heh Vav Heh or YHVH.
jews worship Baal, the Lord of shitskins. That's why they can't type "God" properly.
>>24827439No they fucking don’t. Baal is Jupiter. >>24827431
>>24827439>>24827440See >>24827428>>24827426>>24827427
>>24827438>why would schizos attack schizos>durrr they worshipped the same godyou are too confident and dumb to know you're dumb. this sort of shit happened all the time and it's the core issue with religion.>well god told ME we should do it this way! >that can't be so because the same god told ME to do things another way!take any squabble that gets out of control and becomes a fight and insert "I say that god said this" as their justification. religion is grounded in emotion, not reason.
>>24827441Dude… I’m gonna say this for the last time. Yahweh is a modern english word for Yod Heh Vav Heh or YHVH. Stop spreading this lie.
>>24827436>“Jews” are punished, by their own God, multiple times, and oftentimes in a collective fashionRight and they always return to being the perfect dinduniffink covenant holders worthy of a special relationship in his eyes kek. Must be amazing that no matter how many evil deeds you do or crimes you commit, you're always the winner in the end HAHAHAHA.>again I don’t care that he was jewish.Of course you don't. You serve your master, the Jew.
>>24827438>So why would the people of Zeus do this to the people of Yahweh if they were worshipping the same God? You guys may actually be mentally handicapped.You're reasoning like a mentally deficient person while pointing the finger at me. I'm discussing the possibility of pattern similarities in two neighboring theologies based on an amalgamation of archeological evidence about the past status of YHWH among israelites and that some speculation and your answer is "but if brazzas why fight?" Are you confused or just trying to confuse me?>Yahweh is a modern name for Yod Heh Vav Heh or YHVH.According to the current state of your perpetually evolving and religion, maybe so. According to archeological findings, it's a storm God who was merged into the figure of El / Ilu which pre-exists even the notion of Hebrews in the Sumero-Semitic pantheon.In the same logic, the code of Hammurabi precedes the laws of Moses.The story of the birth and survival of Sargon of Akkad precedes that of Moses.The story of Genesis was taken from the Akkadian Atra Hasis itself derived from the older Sumerians.
>>24827442You want to tell me Jews worship Zeus….Thats the hill you’re going to die on?
>>24827419>Dyeus PaterWas reading up on him recently anon funny to see it come up again
>>24827289Praise be to God Almighty.
>>24827289Name a book of the bible that is called "God"
>>24827302The Pharisees worship Yahweh.The Pharisees think Yahweh is the Father. Therefore, the Pharisees think they are worshipping the Father. Jesus is correcting them, telling them they don't even know the Father.Which would imply that the god they actually worship (Yahweh) is not the Father.
>>24827446see >>24827433are you going to pretend to be retarded or are you going to exercise the common knowledge that religions change and are usually based on myths and traditions from previous religions?
>>24827451You think jews worship Zeus…
Just call him The Demiurge
>>24827452>pretending to be retardedor actually retarded. oh well.
>>24827289The relationship changed with the New Covenant Christ brought. Same GOD. Before the New Covenant, the only way for sin forgiveness was animal blood sacrifice. Only for his chosen people (the white race). The New Covenant opened mercy for everyone who obeys him, etc.
>>24827289Jesus said the throne of Satan was in the city of Pergamum, where the throne of Zeus was. Zeus flooded the world, punished Prometheus for bringing humans sacred fire, and was terrified of being dethroned. His Vedic counterpart Indra was also terrified of being dethroned so he tempted sages who were trying to attain moksha. It goes back to the battle between Enki and Enlil, or Tezcatlipoca and Quetzalcoatl, the serpent God known as the "Lord Of The Star Of The Dawn" the Morning Star AKA Lucifer.
>>24827443>Nooo it's just a cohencidencee
>>24827454You really think jews worship Zeus
>>24827452They worship some kind of tranny, and I don't like it.>>24827455>Only for his chosen people (the white race)Get the fuck out of here
>>24827447Dyeus Pater an expression of the same reasoning as the one that resulted in Shangdi for the Chinese, Tengri for the steppe asians, Anu for Sumerians, Ilu for Semites and Atum for Ancient egyptians (or Amun-ra).The initial postulate is that we come to be and cease to exist in a pre-existing realm and that very thing (the absence of nothingness) being a revolting mindfuck leads one to conclude that there is a first-mover omnigod which is either a supraconscious separate entity or the aggregate of all things in the universe.Going from that postulate and over the course of centuries, the people start to speculate about the metaphysical and this God and a pattern repeats itself across civilizations: he has sons or projections of himselfs that express a portion of his attributes and these are then lower Gods who are believed to be more useful for everyday worship because The God is believed to be a Deus Otiosus (a demiurge who is less involved in answer your prayers than the lords bellow him). Eventually, the Deus Otiosus becomes almost completely irrelevant, or so until monotheistic cults recenter the focus on it.
>>24827455>white cope>based on a human sacrificelol kiked.
>>24827449If they didn't know the difference between good and evil, as the fruit of the tree would have given them...how were they supposed to know that they were committing great sins against GOD?
>>24827456So this >>24827428Makes more sense then
>>24827463This is a JIDF troll
>>24827428Yes.
>>24827456Didn't both Indra and Zeus slay an evil serpent? I know Indra did.
>>24827462So, original sin, was literally by gods decree, was unknowable to them....how were they supposed to know the difference, considering that god didn't allow them to know the difference, until they disobeyed god?
>>24827289El is top God. Yahweh is his son. It's in scripture.
>>24827467"God" didn't allow us to know the difference until we disobeyed god.....right?how is this a sin?if we never got the ability to choose?
>>24827466Yeah, Vritra. The Slavic version of him is known as Velnias/Veles. He had one eye and led processions of spirits across the sky, and he would shapeshift into a serpent to fight Perun, the thunder God. To the Celts he was Cernunnos.
>>24827462>how were they supposed to know that they were committing great sins against GOD?They weren't. They were innocent. Ignorance was what made them sin. Wisdom is what can bring you back to paradise.
>>24827460>Going from that postulate and over the course of centuries, the people start to speculate about the metaphysical and this God and a pattern repeatsSo you believe this pattern happened naturally or that they all source from the same primordial religion? I am open to both and have seen evidence of both just curious about your opinion.
>>24827469makes more sense if "god" is the demiurge and the serpent was sent to save Adam and Eve.
>>24827469Oh Fuck, Goyim Know!!!!!
>>24827468EL and the 72 Elohims. Among the sons are also Baal-Zebub, Baal-Pheor, Baal-Hamon, Ishtar / Innana, Marduk, Enlil and every single one of the deities of bronze and iron age mesopotamia.This El itself appears to be borrowed from the Sumerian Anu and his sons. Anu being the patron deity of the world oldest city, Uruk.
>>24827472>So you believe this pattern happened naturally or that they all source from the same primordial religion?There was once one monotheistic religion. It was taught by Lucifer.
>>24827471>Ignorance was what made them sin.God made us ignorant.So our sin, was GOD's sin that he thrust upon us?We were literally granted the title of SIN?
>>24827289shitskins, shitskin religions and their retarded larps. You all shudder when presented with a 8th grade math problem
>>24827477im telling you, it''s literally just human jews.not even your god.
>>24827477we were never allowed to make a choice....GOD chose to make us sinners. from birth.So saith the jews.
>>24827477>God made us ignorant.Yes we did not know pain or discomfort. We willingly embodied to find out.
>>24827481>willingly>IgnorantOh, do tell.
>>24827482We were ignorant of disease, discomfort, and death yes.
>>24827472I think there's a case for both but i believe that even if scattered, the initial postulate for a stone age human is always, well i must have a maker who built this simulation i live in, and me coming to existence and experiencing all these things, being conscious then fading away doesn't make sense, there must be a mechanism by which my existence either perpetuates itself or transforms. Gazing into the infinite and humbling sight of the star filled night sky, stone age anon concludes that his God must be he who sits in the sky or who is the sky.I believe that religion was, is, and will remain inherent to the human condition and no amount of science explaining how mechanistic things work will be able to produce the death of religion as some people seem to believe.So in conclusion, what i think is that our ancestors first speculated the existence of a God and then started to obssess over that thought as the only mentally stimulating and exciting exercise until they built themselves pantheons of Gods and unsubstantiated stories which are the product of their imagination.And i can understand them, that was like movies + anime + science all combined at the time.
Shut the fuck up worthless faggots
>>24827483We were ignorant of sin, yes?What did eve do?Didn't she eat of the fruit of knowledge of good and evil?How EXACTLY can we have our souls destroyed, if we are ignorant of knowledge of good and evil?
All these mental gymnastics just to cope with the fact that you pray to YHWH the god of the jews, you worship his jewish son Yeshua the masiach and his ministry in Judaea, you read jewish legends and myths featuring Abraham, Moshe, Isaac, Jakob, etc, and try to make sense out of 1st century Jewish apologetics by Saul, Shimon, Yochanan and other assorted semites.
>>24827484the death of religion only happens on the individual level and even then the individual still has to put up with everyonr else living the delusion. the masses will always need a cope for the unanswerable questions, so yea, religion will always be around, same as drugs and alcohol.
>>24827486how can disobeying god be a sin, if god doesn't allow us to know what sin even is?
hey god, can you tell us what a sin even is, so we can not do that?>God: "No, guess"
>>24827298Wrong. The Gnostic text that haven't been edited in over 1900 years at least and in that sense are older than the Bible clearly state Jesus came from a higher God than Yahweh and is opposed to Yahweh aka the Demiurge and seeks to free us from him
>>24827491how dare you not be omniscient....God will smite you for this.
>>24827487It’s over. These are the maniacs that are in control of our planet and it’s terrifying.
Christkikes don't know anything about their own religion
>>24827491Gnostics just ripped off from other works. The Demiurge was initially a Platonic philosophy about a shaper-like deity that was inherently good and giving structure to pre-existing chaos, later bastardized by the Gnostics in their works.
>>24827489the best way to think of it is that "sin" is the absence or opposite of "god"it doesn't matter if Adam and Eve were ignorant, they went against God's will, which is sin.why did God make something "in his image" that doesn't inherently know his will, and then punish them when they act counter to the thing they don't know?>he works in mysterious ways that you can't comprehendthey'll say, and that's when I check out.
>>24827486>We were ignorant of sin, yes?Yes, but ignorance of the law is no excuse. We lost our station as a result. >What did eve do?She disobeyed God and she might have had an immoral relationship too. Yes, she ate the fruit. Our soul wouldn't be destroyed its divine. We had to become mortal to know death.
>>24827492those who call themselves jews are our god, and do lie...and are the synagogue of satan...revelations, something something....
>>24827487Dumuzid, the Sumerian dying-and-rising God, was Enkis son, not Enlils. His consort was Inanna. Baldr was Odins son and his consort was Nanna and after Ragnarok Baldr returns/resurrects, and the world is repaired. This is Velnias. Baltic priests would go to a sacred spring and gouge one eye out in his honor.
>>24827488One needs to either live with the acceptation that he doesn't know, will never know, without assuming anything beyond the unserious mental exercise, or he allows himself to speculate as most humans would, introspects about his life, his world, his consciousness, what it means and the fatality of his death then concludes that there must be an everlasting conscious singularity he calls God. Then, this pool of people splits too as some stop here and don't speculate further while others assume that the myths and tales made up by others must at least be party true.
>>24827499Pleasant looking fellow.
>>24827497>Yes, but ignorance of the law is no excuseThan apparently god was aware of the ignorance of his own chicken shit bullshit that caused him to be a failed god to the jewish chicken?The jews are all about blaming jews on chickens.....you are all knowledgeable about this, right?So, the omniscient gets tricked by chickens, all of the time, right?and you WORSHIP this ignoramus?
>>24827289Gnosticism is the lowest IQ disinfo in human history. Even dumber than jew are Israelites or WE WUZ.
>>24827502Wow, you're so edgy.
>>24827495>The Demiurge was initially a Platonic philosophy about a shaper-like deity that was inherently good and giving structure to pre-existing chaosThat's like every single proto-theology from ancient egypt to india.
>>24827502Your omniscient god is being tricked by chickens at literal all times....and yet you still call him omniscient.ironic.
>>24827504nah he has a point. the actions of the alleged "god" are nonsense. supposing he does exist, he isn't worthy of worship.
>>24827506YOUR OMNISCIENT GOD IS BEING TRICKED BY CHICKENS ALL OF THE TIME.chickens aren't even sentient.chickens are smarter than your god.
>>24827507>he isn't worthy of worshipThat's up to you. It your soul not mine. Personal responsibility and all.
>>24827508>chickens aren't even sentient.Chikens are sentient. The word you seek is sapient.
Guys who cares about "original sin" that shit is fucking stone age and basically made up anywayJust listen to Bible God>But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers,* and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.* see >540720065My functional theory is that if you don't qualify as one of these things, then you literally don't get older. But nobody else has interpreted it this way which disqualifies them as "unbelieving." There's a host of other problems with "all liars" if theology is fundamentally wrong but that's a problem for eventually.
>>24827508CHICKENS ARE SMARTER THAN YOUR GOD.
