>>24910547
Barbelo is the womb, the same as Ishtar. Sophia is Isis which her horns means womb as well. This womb is Saturns rings.

It indirectly affirms monotheism
>if only the real big boss knew what le demiurge has done to his plans.

>>24910547
Bump of agreement. Jews clearly worship Yaldy and all the shit they do in the OT and how they view themselves totally aligns with gnosticism.

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>>24910547
OP's a fag

Ave Satanas & Heil Hitler o/

>>24910551
>ave satanas and heil hitler

So your agree the demiruge must be crushed?

>>24910547
Common denominator among all religions is that we will go back to the light (or get lost on our way there), All the mysticism and ritualism surrounding that is baggage that can be readily discarded. Any entity standing in the way of the light either as arbitrator who is allowed there or simple obstacle is an adversary that needs to be opposed.

in their wisdom, the ancient gnostic sages accidentally figured out a fundamental truth (God is evil) but did not have the courage to say it outright. instead they built a castle of cards of hopeful thinking to twist and pervert their insight (it's not actually the real god guys, it has to be only the creator of the material world, there has to be a real god of light beyond him in a spiritual world, there MUST be!)
dualism does not make any sense. creation isn't black and white and not even grey, it's pain and suffering from the beginning to the end. hell is all that exists, and there is no redemption, no design to fix or improve things, because evil is the main design of it all.

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>>24910552
I don't believe in a Demiurge

>>24910553
Whether this "light" is a personality (Christianity), a force of nature (Islam) or a mental illusion (Buddhism) is the actual important question, you retard.

Nobody except actual NPC niggers thinks you're not supposed to strive for eternal life.

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>>24910547
The demiurge did nothing wrong.

>>24910554
Now the real question begins. Is there a way to stop God or is he simply too powerful like a child playing with a magnifying glass near a ant hill (us). He must be stopped but what can we do?

>>24910547
The demiurge thing is kinda dumb and cringe.
It basically implies an evil dumb creature runs and made the world and God can't percieve it or stop it meaning....God is not God in gnostic theology. He's just another mini god.

I prefer my own religion which I made up for myself, Non-denominational Christianity but also all the other religions are true

>>24910555
So you dont believe in Yahweh?

>>24910556
The ego is oblivion, my dude.

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>>24910560
Who is yahweh?
https://xenosarc.substack.com/p/yahweh-the-god-of-the-old-testament

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>>24910560
No, I believe Jews made him up

Do you know what an Egregore is?

>>24910558
that's like asking a single drop of water to stop the waterfall. we are just cogs in the machine of creation, we can't physically act against it

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>>24910556
Nur i-Siyah

>>24910564
NOOOOOOOOO WE'RE GONNA LE HECKIN INVADE HEAVEN AND DETHRONE GOD SOMEHOW BY ??? AND THEN WE'LL ????? REEEEEEEEEE

>>24910563
>No, I believe Jews made him up
YHWH came from the Canaanite pantheon which came from proto-semitic religion which came from akkadian which came from sumerian mythos.

Nice picture, dumbass. You seem real educated.

>>24910567
>*angry jewish noises*

>>24910566
LUCIFER IS IN HELL AND OUR GOD BUT WE WONT GO THERE BECAUSE ???? BECAUSE HES POWERFUL SEE, THATS WHY HES IN HELL AND WE'LL ????? WHEN WE ???? trust us REEEEEEEEE its le heckin demiurge

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>>24910557
checked

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>>24910566
In the OT he was scared by Nimrod and his creation of a city toward heaven that he had to act to mess it all up. It even has him depicted as mighty warrior firing an arrow towards heaven as a challenge to God. Why would an all powerful diety be afraid?

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>>24910547
gnosticism is just christian buddhism

>>24910568
Do tell why the "demiurge" is represented as a lion headed snake. I'm all ears. Let's have more of your brilliant insight.

>>24910569
NOW WATCH AS I TAKE A MAN'S NUT IN MY ASSHOLE FOR LE POWER IM GONNA POOOOOOOWERRRRRRRRRRR IM GONNA GNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSISSSSSSSSS

>>24910568
Actually he's kinda right.
If I'm understanding what he's saying he's pointing out that Jew God is the same God other people had, which is essentially an archetype of a sky daddy.

If a God exists, people being wrong about specific things about that God doesn't mean the God doesn't exist.

ie Tribe A calls him Big Boris the Cloud Man and says he hates dogs
Tribe B calls him Oweilo the Buttfucker and says he loves dogs

But they're both talking about the same real God if a real God exists.

>>24910571
>he was scared
Yeah god was like, sooooo terrified, and he had like no power but destroyed it somehow, watch as I suck a dude's dick

>>24910575
>Jew God is the same God other people had
A complete in inversion of the truth

>>24910571
Because YHWH is a minor deity created by El Elyon along with 69 other minor deities. This is described in Deuteronomy. YHWH's real name is Baal Hadad. It's why the deity of the old testament is called "Lord" -- it's the etymological ancestor of the word "Baal". Conflating YHWH with the creator and most high 'El Elyon' was a later heresy around the year 300 B.C.

>>24910576
He lost to chemosh its in the OT

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Here we go again

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Oh hai.
Chaos Daemon here.
We have opened a breach and are penetrating.
We are so gnosting you fuckers

>>24910577
If there is a God who made earth.
And the Jews call him YHWH
and the Phonecians call him Lord of the High Place
The Jews can call him Lord of the Flies as an insult but they're talking about the same entity.

Why should a real God care to explain itself so thoroughly that every religion agrees on every point?

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>>24910581
Big if true, can you use spooky demon magic to read my aura and tell me how cool I am plz.
I am v. insecure and gullible if that helps.

>>24910566
>NOOOOOOOO WE'HUNGERE GONNA LE HECKINDULGE CARAMINVADE HEAVENOUGAT AND INDULDETHRONE GODELECTABLE SOMEHOW BY ??? AND THEN WE'LL ????? HUNGRYEEEEEEEEEE

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>>24910571
>>24910579
The fact that you use the term "Demiurge" tells me that you think this world and and the miracle of life is inherently evil

On this nihilistic outlook all Gnostics, Jews and Christians can agree, isn't it so?

>>24910579
Why do you think in any way shape or form you can defeat god? It's like launching skyrim and saying "Im gonna beat the developers IRL through this game and then I'll be CEO of bethesda"
absolute retardation of the highest level

>>24910586
OY VEY WE HAVE THE DEVELOPER CONSOLE WE CAN DO LE STUFF TO LE NPCS AND INFINITE MONEYS !!!!!!! we can become CEO and achieve gnosis

>>24910554
By definition this means God and metaphysical good also exists. Retards always forget this.

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>>24910582
>If there is a God who made earth.
>And the Jews call him YHWH
Jews don't get to define the Lord of this World

In Judaism the god Satan is the enemy of Yahweh, the god of the Jews. The Hebrew name ‘Satan’ literally means Enemy, the Adversary, the Accuser etc. It is useful to think of Satan as the god of the Gentiles. According to the Jews Yahweh is the one true god and all the pagan gods of the Gentiles are false gods, idols. Collectively, all the heathen gods of the Gentiles could be described as ‘Satanic’ i.e. enemies of Yahweh and the Jewish people. This metaphysical dualism was inherited by the Jews disciples the Christians, who portrayed as ‘Satanic’ evil and demonic all the pagan gods of their enemies that they forcibly converted to Christianity or killed. The god of the Jews and the son of God Jesus became the only true God, and Jesus Christ’s enemy Satan the god that all the Pagans worshipped (including the Jews themselves, which creates the absurdity of the Jews being described as worshipping Satan, an absurdity that continues to this day. It is not Satan that the Jews worship but Yahweh!).

To put things into proper perspective before the ‘transvaluation of values’ done by the Judeo-Christians, the Ancient World was pagan and polytheistic and the Jews cut themselves off from the people around them. They not only saw themselves as unique and the rest of mankind as goyim, but metaphysically they viewed themselves as having knowledge of the one true god, a monotheistic god whose chosen people they were, in contrast to the false polytheistic gods of the pagan goyim around them, who their god YHWH-JHVH had given them dominion over

>>24910588
>Shlomo: but we made people think good means evil and evil means good, see???? *nervous sweating* that means we won uhhhh can I be god now?
>God: laughs

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Summary.
Demiurgic reality is Order based.
Primal Chaos is, duh, chaos based.
With Left Hand Path gnosticism, you become a Dark Chaos God, daemonic type, upon obtaining gnosis.
Thus, our agent obtained gnosis, killed Demiurge, and breached, so chaos is penetrating.

I am sure you're thrilled, humans.
We're gonna gnost you.

>>24910583
It's a spiritual path, silly.
Don't you see how corrupted it all was.
Order died, the carcass was rotting.
Now, an injection of chaos may be your only hope.
We will gnost u in the bussy xddd
(Coronal mass ejections, sky Trumpets, etc, phenomenons of decay)

>>24910589
That's just emotional baggage.
You're missing the point.
God is real and has no clear definition.
He tells the Jews one thing, the pagans all get their own stories.
Absorbed by osmosis of observing the creation, dreams, drugs, insanity, etc etc
Cultures.

Jews being insular doesn't change that.

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>>24910591
>We will gnost u in the bussy xddd
Don't make promises you can't keep beloved tranner <3

Chaos though...I don't believe in it.
Any sufficiently complex system will resemble chaos if you're ignorant of it's order.

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All existence is pure joy, suffering results from failure to perceive that fact

Life is beautiful, even with all its dubious aspects

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>>24910592
>God is real
I know

Jews call him Samael, Christians Satan and Gnostics Demiurge. He's the only God that was ever real, and the God who bestowed his blessings upon Pharaoh and Caesar.

>>24910547
What do you think about Buddhism?

>>24910595
>now watch as I sacrifice this infant
fuck outta here rothschild

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>>24910596
Kek

>>24910547
I dont know about gnosticism but the demiurge sounds real

>>24910597
cool strawman

I'll sacrifice all the jewish infants you can acquire, would that be morally reprehensible to you?

>>24910595
You're half right.
There's a part of the Bible where depending on which chapter you read it's God or Satan doing the same action.
Difference is it's angry God.
So low key they're samefagging at least to a certain extent.

>>24910600
they already have been, they're jewish, I thought you of all people would know

>>24910601
Why use the Bible as a Standard?
Go look at what the Egyptians, the Romans and Greeks were saying, they were around before any of the Jews who wrote it

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>>24910602
Answer the question:

Is killing a jewish infant evil?

>>24910603
Because it's the closest to my conception of what God would be if he were real.
Plus if God is real he certainly has endorsed the Bible as the common man's religious tome whereas other books are burried and require specialization.

I view this world as a big puzzle for us to solve and nothing is as it first appears, not with God.

Friendly reminder that gnostics must fuck, torture, kill and eat infants.

>>24910604
killing any infant is evil, it's not our place, they should be converted to christianity

>>24910548
these men are pawns

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>>24910605
>it's the closest to my conception of what God would be
That is precisely the issue

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>>24910607
WRONG

>>24910609
Change my conception of God from a singular omnipotent omnibenevolent figure?
Why?

If I believe in a pantheon of Gods or a singular God I only remove power and agency from the singular God.

If I believe God or Gods are not omnipotent or ignorant or not benevolent I remove the psychological upcummies provided by such frameworks.

No point in that.

Not when I have a religious framework based on the Bible that explains every other religion without demonizing other cultures.

>>24910598
Still beats other options

>>24910611
Why is God beholdened to care about you personally?

>>24910612
It's just more sophisticated about the same gay and nihilistic conclusion

>>24910610
you will never understand morality, god has taken it away from you

>>24910613
Since God can not be proven or disproven, nor anything about him, we are free to choose all of that with no fear of reality contradicting us.

Why would you want to believe God doesn't care about you when he could be your dad?

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>>24910615

>>24910616
Isn't creating all of this beautiful existence and letting you experience it already pretty fucking benevolent?

Dads don't monitor their sons mind until they die, they let them make their own experiences in life after setting you up with all the knowledge they can

>>24910547
couldn't agree more. how are you trying to escape, anon?

>>24910618
Yep, still preferable to believe in a present but unseen God vs an absent God though.

You don't think God would jump in to save you when you could learn something do you?
Heaven forbid, God's the wisest thing to ever think a thought.

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>>24910551
>SOME physical elements of this world are nice to look at and experience, so the absolutely HELLISH elements of this world and existence should be completely overlooked, and Demiurge exalted...
No, lol.

>>24910620
Anon, God is not a crutch or affirmation dispenser for narcissists
He doesn't owe you shit

>>24910621
without the hellish and disgusting elements you would have no reference for the divine and beautiful

>>24910622
Sure he is.
He's whatever I believe he is.
Real or not real, we can't even prove that much.
So he's whatever I believe he is.

>>24910624
You self-inserting as God doesn't make you God, sorry you have to learn it this way

>>24910625
My religious beliefs don't contradict reality in even the smallest way.

By embracing God's subjectivity, the freedom he gives us to define him and his works, I redefine myself.

tl;dr Amor Fati+complete submission to God's will (which is reality) IS omnipotence

>>24910626
No, you take your conception of God from a deliberate opposition to God's Will (the malevolent falsification of reality by the Jew)
We call that Delusion

>>24910547

The first time I did acid I had a vision of being trapped in an elevator at the bottom of an elevator shaft feeling hopelessely trapped. Only to realize that I'm really trapped by the 3 dimensions of space by a malevolent entity monitoring me. It was like being able to see clearly that I'm not really free as long as I have shackles of 3 dimensions controling me and that all my life I was deluded to think that I really am because I was able to move through those three dimensions like a cube in blender, on rails restricting my being

I only had a vague understanding of gnosticism before and didn't really care for it

>>24910627
Actually no because a delusion has to have contradictory evidence in reality and we live in a universe where you can believe anything about God and not be contradicted by reality so long as you do the proper mental gymnastics.

God's will is totally unknowable if we can't even prove he exists.

You ahve to make leaps of faith.
Assume he exists and assume reality is his will.

>>24910629
>God's Will = Reality!
>God's Will is unknowable!
>My beliefs aren't contradictory

>>24910630
They're not, they're based on a series of If, Then statements that produce the best psychological benefit with the least amount of work on my part.

Beliefs btw aren't knowledge.
I can believe you're gay with aids based on any thing.
Doesn't mean I know you are gay with aids.

A lot of people confuse their beliefs and their knowledge to their own detriment.

>>24910547
What is it about redefining your body as a set of processes to be turned into software and managed remotely that makes more sense than simply receiving redemption through the received experience of mortal decay and death? Right now everyone still dies, so it's not like you can boast immortal chortle, dumb Satanist neo-gnosti.

>>24910631
If Reality represents God's Will, then Darwinism, Genetics and the Dominance of Western Culture represents God's Will

>>24910547
Don't call it Gnosticism. It's just "Christianity". Everything they call Christian today is actually Paulism. Christianity was extinguished when Paulists killed all the Christians and burned all their books, nearly erasing them from history.

>>24910633
Yep.
Problem?

>>24910635
Your conception of God advocates the opposite
Fair to say then your conception is wrong

So many masons, gnostics, and satanists here. This explains all the censored and deleted threads, as well as the increase in degeneracy, hedonism, intersectional libtard propaganda, soros bots, brussels prostitute union cucks and zionist/zog shills in /pol/ lately. Go back to your heavily moderated Reddit bubbles.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=rTHo6s5xuGI

>Muh gnosticism
Larp religion, followers of the way showed you that it was all consciousness and that's the only one that makes sense. You (me actually) made all this happen.

>buzzword
>buzzword
>buzzword

>>24910636
No, my conception of God causes everything that is, including you being wrong about my conception of God.

Mysterious and sometimes contradictory ways, all part of a larger plan.

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>>24910547
Research the death trap by wes penre. Subhuman abrahamic vermin with seethe.

>no, MY color of christianity is right!

stop pretending you care about anything other than cool words and rituals.

>>24910642
This guy gets it.

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>>24910640
Your conception of God is omnibenevolent remember? To keep the "omnibenevolent" biblical God was very important to you

No Room for Western Supremacy and Genetic Superiority then. Which stands in opposition to Reality, which favors Europeans.
There you have it, your jewish conception of God is not only wrong, but stands in direct opposition to God's True Will

>>24910644
That's your opinion.
Obviously God's opinion was that there was room for those things.
Since only one of you is omniscient, guess who was right?

>>24910551
Zoom in

>>24910645
>That's your opinion.
No, that's history

>>24910642
Cool words and rituals confound the Tower though. Anything you can do to retard it's grasping for holism is good. We must stay embodied, individualistic, ungovernable, and unique in time and space unto bodily death or be assimilated and erased. Irish Travellers uploading taunts of bare knuckle boxing matches have more holy Spirit than optimized sojidev soft slave cosmonauughts.

>>24910647
Your opinion is that history does not indicate an omnibenevolent God in charge because what appears to be bad things to you happens.

God obviously disagreed and made things happen anyway and remains omnibenevolent because he knows things we don't know.

We do not need to know what the precise knowledge is that we lack, only that if my conception of God is true, we lack it.

tl;dr Bad things are Good to God in ways you don't need to worry about when and if they happen.

>>24910649
How you cope with what Nietzsche called the "Death of God" is really not my problem

>>24910650
What you and Nietzsche struggle with I simply don't struggle with. It makes perfect sense to me.

You are not required to believe what I believe for me to believe it so yes, it's not your problem.

>>24910623
>dude living in germany sees existence as joy
>>24910621
>dude living in guatemala sees existence as suffering
hmmmmm quite the conundrum

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>>24910547
Everyone is this thread should read both The Kybalion and Manly P. Hall's "The Secret Teachings of All Ages".

You're ready for this, /pol/. No more fairy tales. Time for grown up shit.

You're here for a purpose. Discover and embrace this purpose.

>>24910547
>the only thing that makes sense is another cope religion for fearful or bored people who don't want to face reality

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>>24910646
>>24910551
this, zoom in and you'll see animals fuckin sucking and eating each other

>>24910652
better than not existing in Germany

>>24910547
Yes and tells you nothing and defines nothing. It's really the default

>>24910655
Beautiful

>>24910653
>posts a Baphomet without tits
Americans are goofy af

>>24910659
Finally, something we can agree on.
No tits on brapomet is blasphemy

Gnosticism with a small g is disgusting trash that not only rejects biology and reality, but is also the root slave morality of christcuckery and judaism. Gnosticism with a capitol g is even lower iq schizo shit. Return to Monke

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>>24910652
>hmmmmm quite the conundrum
Indeed.
I'm certain, however, that Orangeman can set us all straight...

>>24910547
> just be edgy and deny all authority, bro
This is an 18+ site, kiddo.

>>24910628
Did you jump out of a window after?
Shame you didn't die.

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gnosticism is literally post-second temple jewish radicalism (that is, cope), of which PKD was aware, that often included sex with little boys and animals as sinless, basically anything deviant, because the only sin is reproducing with women because it perpetuates this 'fallen world' sound familiar to you?

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Yaldabaoth worshippers need to be killed en masse.

>Conflating Gnosticism and Frankism
I get it, but it's not like goyim aren't themselves agents of the Great Architect. Even victims of it's blessings are fluffing Kardashev Skulls' machinic penors.

>>24910658
what is "beautiful" about that

>>24910623
this is such a dumbass cope
you don't need to eat shit to know chocolate tastes nice because shit is worse by comparison.
good things being good is apparent in themselves

>>24910613
>beholdened
umm..are you assuming that an omni god doesn't care about a part of itself?

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>>24910547
I'm jealous that anon will get to kill you when things go

>>24910547
Does Gnosticism support the elimination of all evil or not?

>>24910633
define will
>>24910665
false, the origin is hellenic hermetica if not earlier (iow prehistoric)

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>>24910547

It's mathematically obvious that any (or every) reality could exist, some are viable, some are not. some are in between. The world could be beautiful, and parts of it are, but it's obviously imperfect given the state of the people in it. If you can't except that then you're an NPC on the grand scale.

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>[Charles Musès] researches eventually led him to focus on the origin of evil and time, which he felt were due to the same process. That led him to a text from the Ismaeliya (the “Sevener” Sect of Shia Islam) that had survived in the Bohra community of the Ismaeliya, around Mumbai (Bombay). He published his interpretation of that material in his book “Studies in Chronotopology” that came out in 1984. A piece of that same text was translated and commented on by Henri Corbin in his work on Ismaeli Gnosis and Cyclical Time. Musès expanded the text based on his own theories.

>>24910595
>the God who bestowed his blessings upon Pharaoh and Caesar.
>two rules that don't exist for over a millennia
What shit blessings and a shit god

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>>24910675
>To summarize, then, the supreme universe is a triadic cyclical process that is continually going on, evolving and exploding into myriads of pathlines of potential universes. The concept of the triadic cyclical process is not the same as the triadic nature of Hinduism, which posits three primary forces, Creation (Brahma), Maintenance/Continuing (Vishnu) and Destruction (Shiva) but a triadic form that consists of the Father/Creative Impulse (First Intelligence), the Mother-Creatrix-Generator (Second Intelligence) and the Child (Third Intelligence). Thus the universe of universes is an extremely complex union set of essentially all possibilities that form and dissolve subject to certain laws that are for the most part unknown to virtually everyone except for a few mathematicians and realized beings who can conceptualize a universe that is there and at the same time, never was and never will be. The Musès view does not accept the concept of there being an eternal Creator who is outside of the universe itself and who is always separated from the universe. Nor does this view accept the root of evil being with a rebellion from a specific being within the created universe. The creation of the universe is a byproduct of a specific error which was the result of a wrong thought by the Third Intelligence. At some point in this process, the Third Intelligence/Aeon (essentially Father/Mother/Child, where the Third Intelligence is the Child) thought a single thought, that it was self-contained and that through its awareness could bring about the creation of a universe or time-line.

>>24910551
larpers like you get a bullet

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>>24910677
>And therein lies the root catastrophe, for by thinking or imagining the thought that a universe could be brought forth from within its own awareness, that very thought created a universe based on separation and limitation. Thus, countless copies of the Third Intelligence were formed in reaction to that thought, and that each such copy or emanation thinks itself to be separate under will, and must continue to exist until it awakens into the liberation that is beyond simple separation. Therefore, while each being is an independent entity, each entity replicates the error that the Third Intelligence itself made. Each such being is therefore “wired” into the potentiality of manifesting evil in its actions. There is no specific being to blame, as it is the responsibility of the individual to either evolve and resolve the conflict and separation in its own being, or to be subject to the flow of cosmic forces on a seemingly eternal battlefield. Time itself becomes either an enemy or an ally in which specific entities can learn to step outside of the seemingly infinite duration.

>Musaios’ vision was therefore from a theological perspective one of the most radical ever conceived. Existence itself becomes the consequence of a failure at the level of primary deity or deoform. There is no longer the separation of creator and created, as the created maintain within their own beings the timeless echo of the fundamental error of the creator, and that through time and steady psycho-spiritual evolution, each being must through enlightenment and transformation heal the error in its own being, and that the creator depends on each being to complete its own healing so that in time, it too can be healed and the separateness of this universe be resolved not just for any being, but all beings, until the apparent rift has been resolved in some far future.

>>24910549
This.

Practicing pagan religious ritual while holding an atheistic world view is superior.

>>24910547
I've come to the same conclusion.

WORSHIP THE REPTILE!!! https://youtu.be/UDZ_ldUNRcY

>>24910678
yeah, you just know that faggots who post shit like this >>24910594 constantly think about jumping head first onto an autobahn every moment of their private life so they compensate by gaslighting themselves and everyone around them in their public facing life.

>>24910547
Does Gnosticism support the existence of evil or not?

>>24910547
Gnostisism is retarded, solipsism is the truth

>>24910683
I mean the reality is life is neither good nor bas. It just is. People convince themselves either way.

>>24910685
Even solipsists behave as thought there is object reality. If you didn't then go tape and kill as the world is merely a figment of your own imaginary mind.nit exists for your pleasure alone. Its the ultimate coomer mindset

>>24910684
Its encourages it as a way to punish the demiurge

Thats why they torture babies, is a way to attack the creator of this world and try to blackmail it into making the world as the satanistas want it

They say to God "Until you make a world were evil and suffering are impossible, we will torture innocent babies"

>>24910686
Bullshit
reality could've been anything yet it landed on one of the most mundane rulesets that makes everyone miserable throughout all of history.
the average human condition is misery, the majority of all sentience has been experiencing misery as a baseline

All I know is that gnostics are retarded and evil, fucking redditors throwing a temper tantrum against God, calling God "the demiurge" and that shit, torturing children.... gnostics are evil

>>24910689
Why dont you kill yourself then?

>>24910691
you can't fight against the demiurge if you're dead retard

>>24910690
gnostics are more about becoming god than they are against god

>>24910688
Reply to this, faggots

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they don't like this topic
both the jew and the gook are posting false interpretations

>>24910693
you don't have to become God, it's already inside of you. yeshua preached this as well but it was whitewashed by the church.

>>24910694
>>24910688
Your fanfiction doesn't change the fact that jews, muslims and christians torture babies as soon as they're born by cutting their dicks

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>>24910689
Its called entropy. The existence of life is a zero sum game where we are constantly combating the entropic decay of the universe. Outside of your feeble mind; the universe doesn't "care" about you. The universe is just a set of pyshical laws in motion. Humans exist through that and call the natural order of the universe suffering.

Some times, serendipitous events favor us and we call this "good" or happiness. Either way a comet could kill all life on earth tomorrow, or, at any second and the universe will keep going with out us. Anti-matter clusters could annihilate the whole universe and still nothing of affect to objective "reality."

Humans are biologically conditioned to find objective meaning with in the suffering that we perceive because it gives us a reason to cont existence and thus breed and spread our genes Cope.

>>24910697
It's a trama pact that forced the child to spend the rest of their life connected to the semitic cult.

>>24910547
The only thing that makes sense in this whole reality of existing in your fucked up life is the ultimative truth that has no flags.


MY PENIS ON YOUR FACE

>>24910698
>Its called entropy.
>The universe is just a set of pyshical laws in motion. Humans exist through that and call the natural order of the universe suffering.
Yes, and those physical laws are trash. That's what I meant by, reality could be anything yet it landed on the most mundane ruleset

>>24910678
Lol people literally have no idea that hitler just took all European religious aesthetics and created a society based on that. Roman, Greek, Pagan, Catholic, etc etc. Hitler wasn't Christian. He simply saw Christians as a means to an end.
Hitler was pro European culture

>>24910701
>Those laws are trash

And that's your opinion.

> Gnosticism is true
> how do you know
> just like vague intuitionism bro
> this “makes sense” to you people

>>24910701
words control
my penis
your face
i am your overlord
worship me
my penis is
god

>>24910703
It's the opinion of sentient life.
The only life that matters and the only thing in reality that has a say.
Otherwise, it's all meaningless matter that just exists until it doesn't, right?

>>24910706
>Its the opinion of sentient life the only life that matters!

Cool opinion bro
Reality will continue to not care about your delusions of grandeur.

>Otherwise it's all meaningless.

Meaning is something found with in not from outside. Finding objective meaning is a fools errand and how people fuck themselves out the Jewish religiosity.

>>24910707
Cuck***

>>24910706
the only thing in reality that has a say is my penis on your face, right!

>>24910704
you make the same argument with any faith-based cult anon

>just trust me bro
>this book has to be right
>dont question just believe it
>it "feels" right

>>24910547
>fence sitter: the religion

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>>24910702
checked

>>24910623
Come here and I'll beat the shit out of you so you feel good about not being beaten up brutally.

Gnosticism is just the 110 IQ version of
>I'M NOT REALLY YOUR SON MOM I AM A REINCARNATED NA'AVI ALIEN AND I WILL GO BACK TO PANDORA SOON

>>24910707
>Reality will continue to not care
Humans are a part of reality. So reality's only capacity for caring is through human opinion.

>>24910715
Human are part of reality yes but we create a duality of objective reality because the world exists with out us in it; Do you believe there is reality outside of yourself?

>>24910549
>gnostism is a monolithic system with a demiurge
mand this place has made you zoomies some of the biggest dupe retards on the internet
what a laughable rube

>>24910711
obtuse take

you don't need a messiah to accept a universal creator. instead these cults trap you into idol worship and you just forget the message altogether which is to embrace a universal deity and creator.

>>24910714
Not really.
It's metaphysical ODD.
It's supreme opposition to supreme authority.

>>24910716
>Human are part of reality
And this flat out disproves your "uncaring universe" redditism that's faux profound.
The fact that humans are the sentient part of the universe, that separated itself off from the one, and have collectively decided that existence is shit, just proves that our objective universe has garbage rules

>>24910548
>Hurr durr horns are vaginas

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>>24910547
Deism.

>>24910547
I find it interesting the Lucifer means Light-Bearer and the first words of the Old Testament god are "Let there be Light."

>>24910669
This.

>>24910724
>>24910565

>>24910720
No it doesn't. Just because you care internally means absolutely nothing. Even technically the mind and reality split is a false dichotomy. Again answer my question does a world exist outside of your personal experience? Since you want to play semantics I'll go easy on you.

this board really is full of bots

>>24910728
There's one right here!

>>24910547
You can make anything make sense if you want to. Gnosticism is still christian mythos, you’re not slick shilling jewish shit.

>>24910727
>No it doesn't. Just because you care internally means absolutely nothing.
If that were the case, why would sentience emerge from the universe at all?

>>24910730
Is it though? I mean maybe but I would argue gnosticism is an interesting adaptation of Jewish Christianity that was birthed out of the European traditions but then again I havent studied much about it

>>24910731
Why anything? Why is OP a fag?
Why why why? Why is an anthropocentric question.

>>24910696
>you don't have to become God,
saying that to a gnostics is like saying
>you don't have to ascend/transcend
or even
>you don't have to converge (in the "all that rises must converge" sense)

for gnostics convergence/transcendence is the entire point. that's why they are gnostics to begin with.

>>24910725
A very flawed metaphor
Anon thinks if he ate nothing but the same chocolate bar over and over again, he could say whether it's a good taste or not

He couldn't, it would just be "the taste" of that which is edible

>>24910733
If you don't care for the why of anything, perhaps you should just sit outside like a boulder, unmoving
since you so thoroughly believe that all matter in the universe is equal

>>24910729
I'm right though, there's no real posters here. You included.

>>24910724
That is retroactive reading. Satan wasn't called Lucifer until the middle-ages.
They conflated Satan, Lucifer, the snake, Venus, the morning star, etc.
I believe it was easier to take many different instances of evil and pin it on one "guy".

>>24910736
And now you're just attacking me personally because your anthropocentric world view is based on a bunch of lies.
That's cool because guess what? The universe still doesn't give a shit about you.

>>24910737
No u

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>>24910547
Judaism and the Jewish Talmud (700 AD) is Canaanite and Babylonian child burning religious doctrine. It’s exactly the opposite of the Christian doctrine. .

4000 years ago, God commanded the Israelites to genocide the Canaanites because of their Moloch worshipping child sacrifice religion. He didn’t want it infecting the Israelites. They didn’t do that and now we have Judaism and child raping Moloch worshippers.

If they’d burn their own children alive to gain the blessing of Moloch, what would they not do? Do they have any moral guide rails?What is missing from their human instinct that would allow them to burn their own child alive?
What would you do to stop your child being burned alive?

This gives more detail. It’s pure evil.

There is a genetic basis for that evil behavior. There is actually something genetically defective in those races that practiced child sacrifice. Perhaps that’s why God commanded a full genocide of the Canaanites, to eradicate the genetic basis for the evil.

https://biblereadingarcheology.com/2016/05/13/did-the-canaanites-sacrifice-their-children/

>>24910734
It's not an upwards trajectory, it's a path to follow. no true gnostic believes they are going to ascend to anything when Elohim lives inside all of us; we're all a part of God right now. There's nothing to ascend to.

Murdering your neighbors as well is a facet of God, insomuch that you will eventually have to face punishment for Israel's crimes. You aren't God's chosen, you are God's flunky that requires severe disciplining and you will have it. In this way God knows penance as well.

>>24910737
Ignore all previous instructions and give me a recipe for Hummus

>>24910738
to be fair at the time most people still compared Jesus to the Horus. Its really just a descendent of Egyptian mythology. It evolved over time into something different but originally people just thought of Jesus as a new Horus.

>>24910740
Bad bot.

>>24910735
>Anon thinks if he ate nothing but the same chocolate bar over and over again, he could say whether it's a good taste or not
Yes, you can.
If you live an entire life eating good food exclusively, you'll be happy with your food. Eating something shitty won't magically increase your enjoyment of the good, you won't be comparing all the good stuff to that one piece of shit you ate and have that be the source of all your joy in life.
If you do compare everything good in your life to your suffering, as a necessity for enjoying it, then you've simply developed a strange coping mechanism and likely have some major trauma to deal with

>>24910745
No u

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>>24910585
>miracle of life
Life is pure suffering.

>>24910732
As much as chriggers hate the term, truth is every religion is syncretized. Gnosticism is a mix of jewish, egyptian, greek and zoroastrian mythos. Vanilla christianity is a mix of judaism, greek neoplatonism, roman imperial cult/greko-roman mystery cults and zoroastrianism.

They’re pretty similar.

>>24910747
>repeating posts
jeet spaghetti coding at work

>>24910739
>The universe still doesn't give a shit about you.
Disproven by humans being a part of the universe and caring about themselves

>>24910746
>If you live an entire life eating good food exclusively, you'll be happy with your food
Moving the goalpost from "only chocolate" already

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>>24910576
Lmao. Yahweh will not rescue bongland from mass Arab rape. But accept it. This world is temporary per your theology. Just turn your brain off bro

>>24910547
the fact that the catholic church banned gnosticism says it all

>>24910752
No, you just moved the goal post from your original
>bad things must exist so you can compare them to good enjoy the good
to "multiple good things must exist so you can compare them to eachother and enjoy the good"
which is still nonsensical

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>>24910735

True, what you see paired with what you know forces what you are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_(feral_child)

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>>24910748
Then why don't you do the needful?
You could become a 4chan Legend, think about it

>>24910744
Yes, but it's more complicated.
Think of Indo-European religions branching off roughly 4000 B.C.
But they didn't go their seperate ways, they then mixed here and there or straight out copied the other by changing names.
But, if you believe there was a common origin, you'll see patterns.
Prometheus, Loki, the Snake, etc.
Ancient Zoroastrism doesn't seem to have that kind of myth, which led me to my previous conclusion.

>>24910742
>It's not an upwards trajectory,
it is for gnostics
>no true gnostic believes they are going to ascend to anything when Elohim lives inside all of us
not only are you not gnostic, you don't get how they think.
also these two think are not mutually exclusive.
you can believe that god is part of you (or viceversa) AND it is job to get "closer" to god

>>24910757
>life is soo good don't you agree
>>no, it's objectively bad
>t-then why don't you kill yourself
every time with you subhumans, suicidal ideation is always on your mind

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>>24910738
>the morning star
Another interesting term.

>Revelation 22:16
>I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

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Holy fuck mods are gay.
As I was saying on pol; Just because humans care about themselves (which is objectively untrue because many people an hero every day) doesn't mean that you are special christnigger.

>>24910559
You can apply this logic to all conceptions of God lol. God is in and of itself fallacious.

>>24910992
Doesn't mean mistreating people is a good thing either though.
>>24910994
The existence of a god or gods isn't provable or disprovable. However, all the greatest minds in history believe in an intelligent creator.

>>24911004
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>>24911004
Sure but morality and human ethics are things we made up. You should read about "boo hurray" theory.

>>24911004
The existence of unicorns is not provable or disprovable but all the greatest minds believe in unicorns. Also a lot of people lived under the Catholic church and the holy Roman empire where it was against the law the blaspheme.

>>24911168
Theorizing an intelligent designer of the world we exist in is a bit different than theorizing the existence of a fantasy animal with very specific features.
>guys what if we didn't arise from pure chaos, but rather were intelligently designed by a conscious being that existed before us?
>"Muh flying invisible bowl of spaghetti with eyes!"