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I have tried everything there is to try (from self-flagellation to radical self-compassion to indifference) and have read all books there are to read (EasyPeasy, TFM, etc...). I have tried religion, stoicism, pop-sych self-help, etc. The only thing I haven't tried is talking about this to a psychologist, but I don't think it would make much of a difference.

I don't have a particularly shitty life and actually have many things to be grateful for, including material goods and a beautiful girlfriend who has only ever been with me and has a total "monogamous, loyal, hopelessly romantic and eternally in-love, love story couple" mindset.

I have gone through very long, volatile and shitty periods, though, but even when I'm good, I still use, although to a much lesser extent.

Are some men just destined to be forever pornography users?
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Just troon out. I don't think that would help it would just be funny
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>>24932989
I dunno, I used to crank it at least three to four times a day, but then I got 40 and now I only crank it every couple days.
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Yeah just wait until you get older your sex drive will just dry up
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We're npcs bra this shit doesn't matter the Gods torment us for sport
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>>24932989
Point is, you enjoy it. Not a lot of enjoyable things going on inlife right now, for the past several decades, and nothing to look forward to, am I right? This is your only escape hatch, your only hobby other than arguing with retards on some mongolian basket weaving forum. Your only fun. And it's not even that fun and you know it. But beats everything else.

Or am I completely off the mark?
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>>24932989
>Are some men just destined to be forever pornography users?

Yeah they're called goyim
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My wife wonders why anyone would get with a coomer.
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>>24932989
this and talking to women
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>>24932994
It's only enjoyable in the moment, but you feel like shit afterwards, sometines for a long period, so it is not really a good source of enjoyment, is it?
If I go to the local bar to play pool, I'd enjoy it while I do it and I would feel good afterwards. That's not the case with porn.
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>>24932989

Just use your imagination and you'll feel less disgusting afterwards
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>>24932989
> I have tried religion, stoicism, pop-sych self-help, etc.
>The only thing I haven't tried is talking about this to a psychologist
xDD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm5LQsHf05U
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>>24932989
you seek pornography because your girlfriend doesn't satisfy you sexually
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>>24932989
Just sell your computer and get rid of all the electronic devices in your life. Oh wait, you're addicted. Sorry! You're here forever.
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>>24932989
porn is better than women stop being an improover you stupid cuck
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You’re not busy enough. Try being busy sun up to sun down as most men were throughout most of history. You’ll find you don’t even have the energy to jack off and don’t want to.
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>>24932989
Get a gf to fuck instead???
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>>24932991
>>24932992
GETTING OLDER IS FUCKING SHIT ADVICE
YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO STOP WHEN YOU ARE YOUNG SO THAT YOU CAN CHANNEL/HARVEST YOUR ENERGY TO BUILD A GOOD LIFE AND FAMILY AND FUCK THE ELITES UP

YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ONLY STOP JIZZING WHEN YOU ARE FUCKING OLD AND IMPOTENT!!!
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>>24932989
Stop looking outside yourself for answers
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>>24932989
get a dominatrix to lock your manclitty into a chastity cage
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>>24933001
Not really, sex feels way better with her than with the women I dated before I met her. Most orgasms also feel much better than most of the ones I get from PMO.

However, it is true that my girlfriend can't take the shape and form of a huge variety of women like in porm, or satisfy every single fleeting porn-induced fetish that crosses my mind, but then again, that is not supposed to be a need at all, and it only feels like one due to porn addiction.
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>>24933004
Yeah, this is probably part of where it's at, but I will likely still finds windows to indulge every here and then. Although that's better than indulging most of the time.
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It's not a problem you can solve by thinking and "trying everything."
This is the language addicted people use.
The clearest example of why it's retarded is fat people who are addicted to eating.
Does thinking about how to lose weight make you stop eating? No, in fact it's a form of "productive procrastination" that makes you feel like you're doing something useful towards the end of solving the problem while you continue stuffing your face.
The actual solution isn't thinking, and it also isn't fabricating willpower where it presently doesn't exist.
It's changing your perspective sufficient that you don't want to do the activity.
Things that you want to do are easy to do and difficult to avoid. Things that you don't want to do are difficult to do and easy to avoid.

For years I "tried to quit" cigarettes. It never worked. I "quit" probably 40 times, for 3 days, a week, maybe even two months at a time. It was a constant battle with myself, forcing myself to do something I didn't want to do/not do something I wanted to do. And then I went back to smoking, because I wanted to smoke. Then one day I was a bit mad about it and talking aloud to myself, and started appraising what I liked and didn't like about it. Making a list of pros and cons. And I realized, actually there are almost exclusively cons. That somehow caused a revelation on a subconscious level, and I haven't smoked since. When people I would smoke with asked me how I quit I say, completely honestly, "Just don't want to smoke, so it was easy."
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>>24932996
Your wife sounds like she's never experienced sexual pleasure.
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>>24932989
Kikes and foids hate that men are able to satisfy themselves without spending money on them.
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>>24933006
No young person has ever changed the world. Youth is the enemy of wisdom.
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>>24932989
Jerking off to porn is one of the only pleasures I have in my shit life. Giving that up I might as well just kill myself.
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>>24932989
porn is a distorted exaggeration of sex, it is violence and aggression and the thrill of novelty compressed into a visual drug that you can take 24/7 for free, from anywhere with a smartphone. Modern man's domestication and the general emasculation of the current male experience makes porn even more alluring with it's scenes of domination and power... fantasies that few men are brave enough to try out on their girlfriends or wives, and even less have women in their lives that are interested in being treated that way (at least they think they aren't).

So it's both digital drugs and one of the only ways that young men can tap into their primal animal rage and masculinity, in a castrated world where you are expected to be constantly respectful, polite and obedient to your female betters.

I think the path out of porn addiction is to treat porn like a drug, finding ways to express your masculinity and strength outside of watching other guys face fuck chicks, and to embrace the reality that porn doesn't make you happy, it saps your energy 24/7 and then gives you a little back every time you watch it, so you think it makes you feel better... but only better than the constantly deflated and weakened state it puts you in.

Quit porn, embrace your own masculinity, and let your brain heal.
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>>24933011
improovers are faggots he just wants a gf and doesn't know that it isn't worth it. if he has time to spank it that much hes in a good place in life and hes listening to soiciety saying he has to have a gf to be a man. If you're truly doing it because YOU want to then it wont be hard.
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>>24932989
Try acceptance
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>>24933012
You sound like that faggot destiny whose open cuckolding relationship ended. He also thought about and elevated women's pleasure (and sucked cock) same as you
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>>24932989
I'll think I'll just keep jacking
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>>24932989
Try masturbation without porn, and use your imagination instead. Pornography doesn't satisfy your sexual appetite, it only enhances it.
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Fucks sake, you can't get addicted to porn, retard.

How many times are you jerking off every day, on average? If it's more than 4 than you're either like 14-19 years old or you have a medical condition and should see a doctor. Trust me, as you get older it won't be as much a problem.

It's normal to jerk off to porn. Just don't grip so hard it ruins normal sex. There is NOTHING wrong with it. Stop feeling guilty. What the hell is wrong with you.
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>>24933022
Jewish response. You can get addicted to literally anything.
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>>24932989
Jewish people cant control their impulses... let me guess, you are deep into anal stuff also.
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>>24932998
Sounds like you feel guilty about watching it/masturbation
Just accept it bro
Goon lyfe 4ever
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>>24932989
1) porn addiction isn't even a real medical diagnosis
2) SSRI's like Zoloft will take your libido and toss it into the sun, making life more relaxed without the constant need to FAP
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>>24932989
There's no such thing as a porn addiction. There's no reason to give it up. You should, in fact, be hoarding it before the government cracks down on it. You should use VPNs to get past any existing filters. You should get some goonbuds and just give in to your urges whenever you feel the need. You'll be happier this way.
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i feel down the ai porn generation rabbit hole and made 300 fucking images last night
feelsbadman
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>>24932996
shut up faggot kill yourself
order up you’re a nigger
order up!
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>>24933010
There’s time but not the desire. If you’re occupied and have things to do, it doesn’t even cross your mind nor do you want to because you don’t have the energy or focus. The best ways to quit are to get rid of your internet addiction or time and focus.
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>>24933023
Only if your definition of "addicted" is so weak, broad, and retarded it's meaningless.

Try getting addicted to bananas. Or pig shit. Or doing pushups. Fucking retard.
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>>24932989
If it’s that bad just get rid of your internet
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>>24932989
Have you tried just watching more porn?
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>>24932989
it's only hard to stop if you're a weak-willed faggot
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>>24932989
FOOLPROOF PLAN TO OVERCOME PORN ADDICTION:
>do not look at porn
IF YOU FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS YOU WILL SUCCEED.
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I don't say porn anymore I say "pjorn"

Like how bjork
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>>24933014
dumbass
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>>24933024
>let me guess, you are deep into anal stuff also.
>>24933023
>You can get addicted to literally anything.
universal suffrage....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORuy8nYNIZg
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>>24932989
The /pol/ standard is to rail against porn and gooners on /pol/ while continuing to pathologically goon to FacialAbuse.com, having convinced yourself of the moral equivalency.
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I hate imrpooving threads so much. to think we're in such an advantageous place now where we know for a fact even the most 10/10 foid isn't worth a damn here these faggots are packing into gyms and ironically losing their hair so they can impress a non existent cunt who will later wreck their lives. and dont say anybody is doing it for health reasons or to be a better christfag we all know thats bullshit. If we just up the ante and stop dealing with them alltogether the boycott will work, it's already working
>>24933033
ironically this will kinda do it, eventually your sex drive goes down and you'll stop thinking about it unless you hang out with normies or watch romance movies
>>24932989
kys faggot
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>>24933031
>Only if your definition of "addicted" is so weak, broad, and retarded it's meaningless.
"My definition" is the definition and its meaning is the definition.
>Try getting addicted to bananas. Or pig shit. Or doing pushups. Fucking retard.
Many people get addicted to food, and to specific foods. Bananas are among the highest sugar foods, and sugar is highly addictive physiologically and psychologically.
Many people also become addicted to exercise. Do you need me to explain the mechanisms?
Probably not pig shit, although it's possible. The first step is to habituate an activity, building a psychological dependence. If you never consume pig shit, you can't habituate it.
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>>24933039
facialabuse is based because it’s the platonic form of pornography
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>>24932994
I used to do so much that I stopped enjoying it, now I do it stop feeling shitty with its absence
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>>24932989
Why watch porn if you have a gf? Does she watch too? Do you watch together? Have you asked her to play out certain fetishes so you don't have to watch any porn?
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>>24933012
She has. I literally was woken up yesterday morning with her riding muh dik. Though in all honesty I only really got 4 moves:

Hop on top
Flop
Pop
Drop

>>24933023
Real talk.

>>24933029
Cant. Too important. Your cannot use my lingo against me. Order up.
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>>24933044
>>24933044
>Why watch porn if you have a gf? Does she watch too? Do you watch together?
Yeah she loves see girls suck cock at gloryholes and then she tells me how much she would love to suck all the cocks in the videos, gets me off
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>>24933044
To play doubles advocate, I don't know if his bitch can be there all the times when the nigga has a sexual emergency.
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>>24932989
Hey anon youre a guy and youre horny. That's all there is to it.
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>>24932989
>I have read every book there is to read
Doubt. Read more faggot.
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>>24932989

FAKEROOM FARTS MAGGOTS INTO MY EYEBALL
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>>24933047
>doubles advocate
>muttsister so buckbroken by Mcdees that he hears "double" instead of "devil"
How many McDoubles do you order when you go?
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>>24933046
the perfect marriage
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>>24933050
I don't. I'm a dancer. Order up.

>>24933051
Mcdoubles are too small of a food item. Even more with shrinkflation. Order up.
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>>24933046
well at least shes an honest slutt those are hard to find. just dont expect exclusivity and you've got a good deal.
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>>24933053
>I'm a dancer.
:DDD
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>>24932998
You still have other sources of fun. I don't.enjoy pool at the bar anymore, or anything really. Not even porn. I just sleep all day and wake to shitpost on /pol/. Have a good life, anon. Good luck.

>>24933043
Yeah, I don't enjoy it anymore either. I miss when I used to enjoy things, not just this.
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>>24932991
Pussy. I'm 56 and try to mount the Mrs everyday, only then I'll knock one out.
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>>24932989
Isn’t prostitution legal in Argentina? What categories are you jerking off too?
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Is porn actually limiting you? I can't think of a logical argument against it, only religious. Why would you not spend your lifetime in a state of pleasure?
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>>24933047
If it's an emergency just watch some. Can't see how that's a problem but somehow OP thinks he's got a serious porn addiction?
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>>24932989
The reality is that you do not actually want to change, otherwise you would.
True change requires finding the action so repulsive that you stop doing it out of disgust without willpower ever even coming into question.
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>>24932989
I use testosterone blockers; my testosterone used to be at 1200, but now it's under 50 ng/dL. On top of that, I’m enrolled in two degree programs, so I’m always stressed and busy—I don't have time for porn.

You're a guy, so it's normal—masturbation is normal, but porn isn't. Masturbate as much as you want, just don't watch porn. Cut back on porn by watching hentai instead; porn is like heroin—at least try swapping it for something milder.

I've been there; that addiction is just like any other. You keep wanting to watch more and more extreme stuff because nothing else gives you a thrill anymore. Before you end up on the deep web, try to reduce the impact and the frequency.

Stick to hentai—one wank a day to hentai, maybe two, and do the rest without watching any content.
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>>24932989
>The only thing I haven't tried is talking about this to a psychologist, but I don't think it would make much of a difference.


Have you considered that as a mammal you are driven towards sex and that the idea of liking it is not a bad thing?
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>>24932989
https://youtube.com/shorts/yqxt_5fV9Qo?si=EX4pIWYfPILxxMT6
In pooda,
That means you're Chad already.
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Bump this one instead
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/541930944/canada-is-done#bottom
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have you tried getting older?
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I've found the most effective cure for any low impulse thing is to crush it with standards. For example, do you really want to fuck that girl who made fun of your clothes or whatever or do you want someone who actually likes you? Do you really want that mcchicken or do you actually want a roasted cornish hen? This works because sometimes, yes you actually DO want the easy thing. But when you don't or your not sure you don't have to be a bitch to your laziness. For example do I want to jerk off to some random ugly whore just because the camera angle is good for 30 seconds and then it cutes to some guys face or her blown out asshole or whatever? Fuck no. So even if you just try to find 'good porn' it will usually take so much time (if youre an actual porn addict or degenerate youll know what i mean) so by the time youre about to actually commit to jerking off it either took too long OR you saved it to jerk off to later (thus making it something you will never jerk off to). So basically just keep your standards. You dont need to be very negative or neurotic. Just realize that its usually just from boredom, laziness or avoidance. And sometimes jerking off just doesnt mean shit.
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>>24932989
>I have tried everything there is to try
You tried a GF?
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>>24932989
i easily quit all my habits once i realized i was doing them to keep the bad thoughts away. it took a while to get to this point though. i wouldnt be able to sleep at night and my thoughts would cause me to start sobbing. i engaged the thoughts and let myself feel. the main one for me was alcohol, but lots of things i impulsively do were to keep the bad thoughts away.
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>>24933052
Ohh yeah I am 100% going to marry her.
>>24933054
>>24933054
>just dont expect exclusivity
Shes told me all about her past being a whore and she knows I love it. I fully expect her to fuck around on me.
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>>24933061
this. I became a bartender and started hating boose and drunk people so much I barely get drunk anymore. my K/d on cod went through the roof
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>>24933062
>my testosterone used to be at 1200, but now it's under 50

you proudly went from macho to pinche joto :PPPPP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ticWhwzCYog
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>>24933072
Anything is better than being a coomer with a rotten mind, no hair, and feeling tired all the time.
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>>24933070
>Ohh yeah I am 100% going to marry her.
no if im faster than you, such a princess.... i wont lose that train :DDDDDDD
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> 541934318
Well, I do have some advice for you. I was and still am in your situation. Religion helps me a little, but I have already lost my battle. And that is what I want to tell you, please don’t lose yours. You still have your girlfriend. You can still be saved. You can still have a family, marry the woman you love, have a child and live a happy life
I could have had all of that too, but I lost my fight. Not once but twice I lost to this shit. I’m more of a spiritual guy, I believe in semen retention practices and their mantras. But there were still days when I let my guard down, let myself stare and gave in to the urge to fap.
I was weak. I still am. And deep in my heart, I regret it to this very day. Now I’m in my thirties. I don’t have a good job, and I get no attention from women. It’s over for me. I had my chances. I had some truly good women in my life, but I traded them for an instant hit of dopamine. I could have had a child. Instead, I’m living with my mum, wishing it would all be over soon, that I’ll be drafted or die some other way
Don’t repeat my mistakes. Don't fap your life away
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>>24932989
Have you tried just stopping?
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>>24933074
>>24933074
>no if im faster than you, such a princess.... i wont lose that train
What the fuck does that even mean memeflaggot?
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>>24933077
You're asking for rationalization from someone with 78 IQ.
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>>24932989
Actually sincerely not trying to be a cunt but have you tried not wanking?

Keep this in perspective - rather than playing the victim and wailing about
>muh addiction
what you're really saying (similarly to this guy >>24933061) is
>I enjoy the feeling of masturbation so much that I don't want to stop but because of societies stigmas about it I feel self loathing for have such a weak mind and lack of willpower that I can't [don't want] to stop.
PROTIP: with any "addiction" there will ALWAYS be an excuse.

There is nothing wrong with masturbation perse. If it's impacting your life then like any vice you need to do it in moderation and ofc there is a time and place. But it sounds like you just want to enjoy watching strangers get paid to fuck each other for money WHILE wanking.

Maybe have a go at >>24932999 or you know wear sandpaper gloves.
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Just get a hobby. That's literally it. Have a hobby that requires you to go outside and hang out with other people and it goes away.
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>>24933073
i agree, and i respect it, i was just kidding and surprised for such a difference, not subtle going from 1200 to 50, but tired and bald and rotten mind and coomer its just your rhetorical shield now for proudly choosing being a pinche joto :PPP i see epstein and the others with good hair, rotten mind, coomin a lot, and they also don't seem tired :DD
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>>24933078
Probably even lower than that lmao, anyway that memeflaggot can dream I suppose haha
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>>24933077
>>24933078
retards <3 i love ya
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>>24932989
>never seen a psychologist
Well there’s your problem bud. Even taking in outside information from books etc, nothing beats someone who is totally external from you sitting across a room from you telling you what your problems are. Seek help and I mean that in a genuine way. Therapy rocks and I have become a much better and happier man because of it.
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>>24932989
Why stop? Jerking off is fun.
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>>24932989
Your solution is that old 4chan proverb, "Just stop caring." Porn literally cannot hurt you in any way. It's enjoyable and good for you mentally and physically. All of your stress is coming from believing that it's a problem and you should feel bad about it
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>>24932992
no you are just out of shape loser
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>>24932989
You just have a normal sex drive chill out.
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>>24933081
>i see epstein and the others with good hair, rotten mind, coomin a lot, and they also don't seem tired :DD
There is a difference between wanting to be a certain way and having your body and libido force you to be that way; I hate having a high libido. I consider myself asexual and hate being horny I prefer to have a calm mind, free from lewdness, and simply enjoy my life.
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>>24932989
Damn.
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>>24933090
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>>24933088
No, looking at tits is bad.
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>>24932996
You keep fucking up my grocery delivery order. Fix yourself fag
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>>24932989
Sorry you are one of them now
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>>24933093
What are you talking about? I haven't worked at walmart since October.
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I love a nice set of knockers.
To the ladies, yes I will look at your tips while you talk.
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>>24932989

why would you want to stop gooning though? You can't tell me that you believe the transactional nature of modern relationships is more beneficial than just cranking one out after a stressful day.
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>>24933097
OP is a cucked zoomer who wants the group chat to admire him for finally fucking a 3/10 foid. we are doomed as a species.
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>>24933097
It'll get increasingly difficult to where they're going to be spending $75+ per month as a power gooner.
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>>24933099
onlyfags are down there with footfags and trannies, not even worthy of being called gooners. anyone who pays for porn gets the rope, no exceptions.
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>>24933100
You gotta support your favorite creators otherwise theres no incentive for them to keep producing great, quality content.
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>>24932989
>I have tried everything there is to try
>posts retarded methods
have you tried buying good books, dumping electronics and studying/working for a few months without access to the internet?
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>>24932989
Finding that porn forum with leaks (no free promo) was the worst thing that happened to me. I don't even use it fap I just browse now like I’m catching up on news or something
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>>24933006
>stop so you can channel your energy
What the fuck are you retards all doing? Throughout my 20s I'd jack off 2-3 times a day, sometimes with porn and sometimes without. I had a lucrative career, a girlfriend (now wife), and hobbies. It's never prevented me from fulfilling any obligations and never ruined anything. I still actively pursued my girlfriend/wife for sex and never turned her down if she wanted to do it. Takes like 5-10 mins to jack off. How the fuck is it ruining your lives? Do you idiots just goon for hours at a time or something? I mean jfc...
I have a feeling that most of the retards who claim porn is ruining their lives are just fags who were raised by conservative/religious parents and just can't get over the idea that masturbating is somehow bad/dirty/sinful. Are you idiots overcome with shame and regret after you jack off or something? If so just stop being gay and weird, holy shit...
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>>24933101
>quality content
I know your trolling but honestly, if all the free porn dried up Id draw my own like randy marsh before Id pay a thot. not gunna be a problem for me though.
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>>24932989
>a beautiful girlfriend who has only ever been with me
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>>24933106
I read that part and pressed doubt. shes cheating on him literally right now
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Porn addiction is my favorite piece of retarded bro science so far.
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>>24932989
Masturbating works really well to cure porn addiction. I never want to look at porn after I masturbate.
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>>24932989
just check the fucking Bible already, fruitless discussion
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>>24932989
The only way to beat porn addiction is to get something better.
Unironically you need to get a hobby, but not a hobby like retards suggest where you go start a train collection or some shit and you fail to fixate because you're doing it by yourself. You need to find something that you're interested in that isn't porn, join a community about it, and then proceed to make friends that actively participate, talk about, and focus on it.
You will soon find that you don't have time for porn, mostly because it pales greatly in comparison to the feeling of your interest getting expressed to those others you now have a vested interest in hanging out and having fun with.

Yes, it can be online, or IRL with an online component, in fact if it's totally IRL then chances are you'll fall out of it again anyway unless you live in walking distance of the hobby.
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>>24933112
for me, its studying the blade
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>>24933113
For me its having my gf tell me about how much she loves sucking and fucking cock and that she made just to be a dirty whore
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>>24932989
at least you have a chance
in my 30 years of life I never dated, I never had a girlfriend.
In order to get married in this shithole of a country and for a woman to accept to marry you, you need to live a house you bought, you have to buy 10000$ of gold as a gift for the bride, you have to sign a contract that if you divorce her, you have to pay her atleast 50000$ plus monthly child support, by the way the average salary is 200$ per month in this shithole.
I made a decision that if i can't find a woman to marry and accept my financial situation by the age of 33, i will either kill myself or go on a rampage and bomb the nearest school to my house, i will not forgive this society.
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>>24933115
>i will either kill myself or go on a rampage and bomb the nearest school to my house,
LMAO, for the lulz
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>>24932989
Have you tried to stop being a whiny faggot?
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>>24932989
Bro I have a girlfriend who fucks me constantly, why in the world are you still watching porn? I have zero interest in porn when I can fuck her. Only reason I can think why you might look at porn is maybe you and your girlfriend are not white, and so you're not really attracted to your girlfriend, and prefer instead to see white people fucking. That would make sense. Personally if I was born a non-white I'd just sterilize myself and then kill as many non-whites as possible to help ensure next incarnation will be as a white person.
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>>24933116
iam not going to masturbate for my entire life
either this society acknowledge there is a problem and make it easier for men to marry women or bear the consequences of what will happen
there are at least 11 million women in this shithole over the age of 30 and unmarried, because their requirements are practically impossible in this shit economy, in the next 15 years this number will double
adultery is forbidden in Islam, you have 13 million+ unmarried men over the age of 30, if you deny the men their sexual desires and keep this number growing you are simply poking a time bomb
iam not joking, if i reach 33 without a chance for marriage i will as many people as i can
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>>24932989
Write a journal everyday so there is an external log. And don't stay up late thats when temptation hits for many.
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>>24933119
You wont do shit you brown faggot
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>>24932989

I have a masturbation addiction, I never watch porn because my threshold for sexual arousal is much lower.

I can masturbate to any representation of the female form. This is far worse than porn addiction.
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>>24933121
screencap this you cumskin and check the news 3 years later, 200+ child will die and more injured and mutilated in school in Egypt
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Some men do have porn addictions and will sit in their room and goon all day. However, jerking off to porn when you are horny once or twice a day is not an addiction. It's shame for being a human.
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>>24933123
HAHAHAHAHAH, fuck you sand nigger
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>>24932998
>but you feel like shit afterwards,
That is only if you have some weird psychological hangup. Either from actual trauma or you got brainwashed by some of the more backwards religions like christianity. I fixed my head recently and jerking off is the most normal thing in the world. It wasn't even part of any stuff i was fixing. It is literally like sleeping or eating.
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>>24932989
>start getting coom brain
>empty balls
>go about life with 100 percent clarity
I don't see the problem.
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>>24933119
I'm 33 and only just now found my wife. I was planning on killing tons of people at this age and actively making plans but ended up meeting her through gardening.
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>>24932989
Can't you just try practicing jacking it with a blindfold on while imagining your girlfriend in particularly slutty situations?
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>>24932989
>The only thing I haven't tried is talking about this to a psychologist, but I don't think it would make much of a difference.
You don't know until you try. Tbh anon that sounds like an obvious solution

I know the ethos on pol is that psychs are Jews or whatever, but talking to someone serious instead of a bunch of misanthropes on the internet sounds like exactly what you need. You sound very thoughtful and like you've put serious thought into this. I'd say at least give it a try
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>>24932989
>understand the reason you're giving it up
The civil war started and it's time to start killing jews and their bioweapons (women and boomers included). This is the only acceptable reason.
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>>24933128
I hope you have a fruitful garden and produce a beautiful family that brings you fulfillment and purpose
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>>24932998
>If I go to the local bar to play pool, I'd enjoy it while I do it and I would feel good afterwards. That's not the case with porn.
Then go play pool whenever you feel like masturbating. Why do you keep missing the obvious solutions OP?
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>>24932989
Its practically impossible for atheists
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>>24933128
Just know that she is a whore like all women lmao
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>>24933135
Don't listen to this incel jeet. Your world will be irreparably altered once you have your first child. Have children, raise them, build the future they deserve
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>>24933136
>Don't listen to this incel
lol, you sound like a woman yourself hahahah. All women are fuckin whores you thick fuck
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>>24933137
you will never have children.
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>>24932989
Just transition and get it over with.
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>>24932996
When you see this guy post it's time to log off for the day.
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how the fuck does anyone get a porn addiction? I need weapons grade mesugaki if I want to force a second in the same day
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>>24932989
Stop worrying about it and just be busy
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>>24933140
Why? Too much truth? Why would any bitch wanna be fuckin with a gooner?
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>>24933135
True.

>>24933132
I hope so too but last night she drank two bottles of hand sanitizer. At least within a few days she'll be in a detox and hopefully get over withdrawals and not die.
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>>24933142
This. I mainly avoid porn by having better things to do. You have too much idle time if you have time for porn
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>>24932989
just stop watching it lol. its that easy
if you need to jerk off, jerkoff stalefish looking at your own ass in the mirror
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>>24932989
Get an escort once a week or month
Move on
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>>24932989
I like furry porn
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>>24933057
your goo is low-quality.
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>>24933144
Don't fret; you can have presidential ambitions with a woman like that
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TFM worked for me to stop alcoholism (I don't even think about it, and there's no such thing as relapse); now I perceive it as dumb.
TFM worked for a motor repetitive habit with pencils that I had since high school. It felt like I couldn't will myself to stop it; I would only think about it. Now I think it's stupid, and I don't do it anymore.

Well. I will try to fucking apply TFM to porn now; I hope it works.
The Freedom Model (Original!Main Text).pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/atkcjz.pdf
The Freedom Model PMO.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/sxrxn5.pdf
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>>24932989
>>24932990
If women had no rights, coomers would be breeders.
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>>24933138
I already have 2 lol. Try again pussy
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>>24932989
Short answer no. If anything I’d tell you to just be mindful as you do it and try to disassociate first from the idea that it’s a problem. Really feel what’s going on past your shame or whatever else. Do whatever is in your power to stay only in the moment of doing instead of just doing it automatically. The more you do that, the less you enjoy it naturally over time. That’s what worked for me with smoking too, just noticing without trying to quit what it actually felt like rather than what I thought it should feel like made gradually realize over time it didn’t feel good, and after enough time that was enough.
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>>24933031
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnSE2YQ445o
Addiction is not real but people can feel trapped by their stupid habits. It's all mental.
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shift+delete

it was literally that simple.
just quit being an npc. human beings, aka those who have ditched all forms of jewish servitude can just effortlessly will things to stop effecting.

and it sounds like you got yourself a spiritual problem.
>self-flagellation
so what are you, christcuck? theres your problem right there. how can it be wrong to watch porn when your literal god was arrested with a naked boy?

questions like these generally arent made visible to the software side, theyre reserved more for the underlying hardware, what you might call the sub-conscious, but its a little more nuanced than that.
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>>24933154
That sounds very interesting.
It's like you cock block your subconscious but keep a very broad attention yet to your ideas in your head and everything else? Maybe that process still ends up settling on unconscious reframe shit in a hasty way?
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>>24933011
This, that’s how I quit drinking. I didn’t even have to make a list though, it was just a very sudden revelation I wasn’t trying to quit ever I didn’t even think about quitting. I actually brewed beer, went to cocktail mixers the whole nine yards regularly. And then one day I woke up fat, angry, and hungover and just said “oh this fucking sucks actually.” And that was enough. Sobriety felt so much better than getting trashed that the thought of going back has never happened. I’ve never had a fantasy of drinking again that I had to white knuckle through, it just became so obviously shitty.
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>>24932989
If you cannot stop any addiction, then you cannot be really considered human.
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>op doesn't have the willpower to stop touching his cock
>vested interests (selling a "cure") and naive idiots help op to legitimise his lack of willpower by calling it a disease.
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>>24933157
Yeah plan out a time consciously. Fuck write it down if you want “9:45pm I’m going to watch this porn and jerk off for 20 minutes.” The taboo is half the reason it stays. If you make it mundane and also finding it uncomfortable you’ll beat it easy. You’ll find it’s simply more boring to watch porn than do anything else and boredom will kill your drive for you. It’s boring to be fat, it’s boring to be really drunk, it’s boring to smoke, it’s boring to watch porn, it’s much more interesting to try to live the life you actually want to live outside of your head all day.
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How much time do you spend watching it?
I like porn, but I only watch it when I fap, I only fap once a day, and it only takes a few minutes
None of those statements are true 100% of the time, but true enough that porn doesn't cause me any trouble
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>>24933011
>Does thinking about how to lose weight make you stop eating? No, in fact it's a form of "productive procrastination" that makes you feel like you're doing something useful towards the end of solving the problem while you continue stuffing your face.
This was basically aa for me
>a bunch of people desperate for drink sitting in a room talking about drinking...
>"Just don't want to smoke, so it was easy."
>>24933158
Ditto for drinking and smoking - I did take naltrexone to 'help' with the drinking but basically I didn't like it anymore and didn't want to do it.

I don't see taking naltrexone as a weakness - more as as assistance.
t. dry nearly 13 yrs.
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>>24933163
I will add also that my sobriety did coincide with grief over my dog. I had just lost him. Somehow the alchemy of grief plus being just plain bored of drinking made it a permanent change. But I have the same disgust response to drinking now that I had when I was a little boy, even smelling alcohol makes me gag. So it was a total almost neurological change.
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>>24933161
Sounds like your method allows for such depth of mind, like you solve everything and figture truth just with your natujral mind.
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>>24933159
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SCWy9gsw3E
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>>24933141
How the FUCK does someone get that kind of low libido, or test, or whatever?
I started at 4 or 5 years old and keep doing it at 29.
Record is 17 times in a row (hand gave up, not dick btw)
Having a girl doesn't help much either
>>24933158
Same, I couldn't stop drinking no matter what anyone said to me. Not even family. Drinking felt good and it was impossible to stop. Then one day at like 23 or so I just woke up and thought that being drunk is "fake happiness" and ever since then I don't feel the need to drink. No luck with porn tho



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