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>>544147437

These threads are intended for individuals who are interested in returning to their true, original, ancestral religion, and have realized that Christianity is a universalist/globalist religion, that is influenced by jews.
Abrahamic religions are not tied to our home soil, it does not, and will never belong to you.
Our religions were present for 5000+ years before the rise of Abrahamic beliefs.

Official /rarg/ introduction video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YttBKKCvtr8

Inspiration and resources :

+ Northern/Central European:
- https://books.openbookpublishers.com/10.11647/obp.0308.pdf
- https://archive.org/details/gri_33125000752341/page/300/mode/2up
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8FLuVGCNNU
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCciXiHIH-A
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EQAseSM7XY

+ Southern European:
- https://archive.org/stream/ReligioRomanaHandbook/Religio%20Romana%20Handbook_djvu.txt
- https://www.scribd.com/document/404075007/religions-of-rome2-pdf
- https://archive.org/details/introductiontoro00sche/mode/2up
- https://file.garden/Zuc260NXKxUqL_hJ/hellenic-polytheism-household-worship-christos-1--annas-archive%20(1).pdf
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EptC0Wd8SJg
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13_kRntszO4

+ Slavic
- https://slavicnativefaith.com/resource-list.html
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEVnS3G09-Y
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4jWWeO4lkc

>inb4 kike
No. Jews and christians are equally as evil, both must perish.
>inb4 jeet
No. There is no correlation between European paganism and jeet Hindu slop. We all want them out of the west.
>inb4 LARPagan
No. It's not really possible to larp as your own people. If anything, aren't christians the one larping? Larping as some foreign desert tribe, christians are on the same tier as white man weeaboo trying to be a japanese shinto.

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1. If your region was not on this list, simply search; "what religion did [Your country/People] worship before Christianity/Abrahamic religions"
Additionally, research your ancestry, and even feel free to do a (Non-jewish owned) DNA Test. Avoid jewish-owned DNA testing companies such as MyHeritageDNA (CEO: Gilad Japhet, an Israeli)
Always look up the CEO/Owner of the DNA testing company you will be using before buying.

2. Don't also just teach these values and beliefs upon your family, if you also have normie friends of a similar ethnic background, tell them to look into their ancestry and ancestral religion as well. I'm sure they feel similar, that everything has become blended and soulless, our people yearn for their true origins.
(Hiraeth)

3. Actually research, and slowly start to practice your ancestral religion. See how it makes you feel. Attend festivals, celebrations, etc.
Socialize and find your tribe.

4. Start a family and teach them these original religions. Create multiple artifacts that can be passed down through your children, and their children, and the children after that, your bloodline.
I would recommend some very short books explaining their origins, and guidelines/values they should follow, and what our ancestors believed, and maybe small sculptures. Things of that nature.
You will likely die before all our people return to our roots, we are the spark and this will be a revival which will grow throughout generations, your grandchildren, and their grandchildren.

This is the ultimate resistance to Christian/Jewish/Abrahamic globalism, do not let a foreign Abrahamic religion overrule you.

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>>25157385
>Returning to Ancestral Religion General

you mean how loki changed his gender so he could get fucked by a horse.
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>>25157385
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>>25157387
Jewish fantasy
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>>25157389
>your heritage
Can you name one ancestor of your's who wasn't Christian? I can't.
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>>25157385
Jews are Jötuns
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>>25157389
Oops sorry I meant to say worship the idol of a guy sucking his own dick. My bad.

>MY ANCESTOR

lmfao
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what's the point if you don't actually believe any of it?
seems kinda fruity
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>>25157390
Yea they were mentally endlaved by a jewish psy op.
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>>25157389
Yes, Loki transforming into a mare to mate with the stallion Svaðilfari and giving birth to the eight-legged horse Sleipnir is a real and well-known myth from traditional Norse mythology. However, whether it makes "changing his gender" a foundational part of his character is a matter of interpretation.

What the Original Myths Say

• The Sleipnir Episode: In Snorri Sturluson’s Prose Edda (Gylfaginning), Loki turns into a mare to lure away the giant's stallion Svaðilfari, saving the gods from losing a bet. As a result of this encounter, he becomes pregnant and gives birth to Sleipnir, Odin's prized steed.
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>>25157392
Bend over Zutt butt
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>>25157392
Those are African. Nice try kike.
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>>25157394
>"we killed and persecuted early Christians to help it spread"
What the historical illiteracy?
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>>25157389
• Other Disguises: Loki shifts into other female forms across the mythology, such as dressing as a handmaiden in the poem Þrymskvíða, or taking the form of an old woman named Þökk.
• Insults in Poetry: In the poem Lokasenna, the other gods mock Loki for living as a milkmaid underground for eight winters and giving birth to children, using it as an insult to question his masculinity.

How Scholars and Interpretations Differ

• Shapeshifting vs. Identity: Traditional sources consistently refer to Loki with male pronouns and depict him as a male god who is married to the goddess Sigyn. Many mythologists argue that his transformations are practical tools for trickery, necessity, or desperation rather than an expression of a modern gender identity.
• Modern Interpretations: Contemporary readers, queer-theorists, and some modern Norse pagans view Loki as a historical example of gender-fluidity or queerness, pointing out that he openly crosses both species and biological sex boundaries.
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>>25157389
Thor crossdressing as Freyja to retrieve his stolen hammer is a real and highly significant story in Norse mythology. The entire tale is recorded in the famous Old Norse poem Þrymskvíða (The Lay of Thrym) from the Poetic Edda.

The Myth: Why Thor Dressed as Freyja

• The Theft: The giant Thrym steals Mjölnir while Thor is sleeping. He refuses to return the hammer unless the gods bring him the beautiful goddess Freyja to be his bride.
• The Plan: Freyja furiously refuses to marry a giant. Heimdall, the watchman of the gods, proposes a clever trick: disguise Thor as the bride by dressing him in a bridal gown, a veil, and Freyja's famous necklace, Brísingamen. Loki agrees to dress up as his handmaiden to accompany him.
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>>25157399
Here come the kikes
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>>25157393
I am an actual Neoplatonist so I do believe it desu. I don’t see my metaphysics as that crazy when it’s the standard in the Asian world
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>>25157400
We don’t care, we’re not worshipping your jewish psy op anymore
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>>25157401
>quoting the prose and poetic eddas, the foundations of norse mythology
>"th-that makes someone a kike somehow!"
Desperation. Try reading about your own "beliefs" (table-top RPG character) some time, tranny worshipper.
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>>25157403
Meanwhile if you bring up any of the abhorrent degenerate shit in the Old Testament you get hit with

>its a metaphor goy
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>>25157403
>"Worship trannies and cross-dressers with us, or you're a jew!"
No thanks, kike.
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>>25157405
Name one example.
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>>25157405
Paganism is anti kike. Seethe kike. I can feel it twisting your insides. The power of the gods will keep you parasites in check!
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>>25157402
that's even fruitier
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>>25157385
Good thread before the last one was (((axed))). Once again, my latest acquisition, of which I am currently a few chapters in. I will say he is very good at bringing in new sources that depict Christians, in the eyes of the Romans, as revolutionary radicals bent on subverting the established order of tradition. This is no great leap of interpretation, but something that was quite openly acknowledged before the Constantinian takeover. He delivers some particularly sharp invectives against Constantine, arguing that Christendom would never have come into being otherwise. I would likewise argue that Christianity could never have generated the Roman institutions themselves, rooted as they were in the traditional religio and mos.

He appeals to Rome, suggesting that 'maybe Rome can save us, if Jesus can’t', in reference to the maladies of modernity and the West, as well as our own (((subjugation))) by a highly motivated close-knit pack of rascals, in which he finds a parallel to the (((modern order))). His is a more detached, scholarly approach than that of an ardent Roman Traditionalist such as Evola, there is only one quote I disagree with about Roman religion 'developing' in an environment with Christianity, rather than emphasising its primal roots like an Evola would, but that's empiricist scholars, and his invective is no less incisive. Highly recommended.

>[Romans] have thoroughly persuaded themselves that they act rightly in honouring the deities, and that we are guilty of the greatest impiety in making no account of powers so manifest and so beneficent, but directly breaking the laws, which require every one to reverence ancestral customs, and not disturb what should be inviolable, but to walk orderly in following the religion of his forefathers, and not to be meddlesome through love of innovation. Thus they say that even death has been deservedly fixed by the laws as the punishment for those who transgress.
>Eusebius, Preparation of the Gospels
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>>25157399
The fantasy of 'gods' versus reality:
"The death penalty is reserved for two kinds of capital offenses: military treason or desertion was punished by hanging, and moral infamy (cowardice and homosexuality[9]) was punished by throwing the condemned into a bog. The difference in punishment is explained by the idea that "glaring iniquities" must be exposed in plain sight, while "effeminacy and pollution" should best be buried and concealed.[10] Minor legal disputes were settled on a day-to-day basis by elected chiefs assisted by elected officials.[11]" - Tacitus, Germaina
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>>25157407
Numbers 31:17-18 god commanding sexual slavery

The foreskin pile in judges


God getting btfo by iron chariots
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>>25157387
Loki is a retard and the Eddas warn against worshiping him.
No one would ever think Loki is a benevolent deity, much like Satan.
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>>25157409
I see it as much more closer to observable reality for me then any Abrahamic religion desu.
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>>25157411
>we worship Odin, a cross-dressing rapist, but we hate gays bros!

The Poetic Edda (The Poem Lokasenna, Stanza 24)

This is the most famous source, but it is an accusation of acting like a woman or witch rather than an explicit transformation into one.
During the poem Lokasenna, Odin and Loki are trading insults. Odin mocks Loki for spending eight winters underground milking cows and giving birth to children. Loki immediately retaliates by mocking Odin's use of seiðr—a form of magic that Viking culture strictly designated as women's work.
Loki says to Odin:
"But they say you practiced seid on Samsø,
and struck upon a drum like a witch (völva);
in the likeness of a wizard/witch (vitka líki) you traveled among people,
and I thought that was the behavior of an unmanly man (argr)."
The Context: In the original Old Norse text, the phrase vitka líki can mean "the likeness of a witch or wizard". While some modern readers interpret this as Odin physically transforming into a woman, scholars note it mostly implies he was dressing, drumming, and behaving like a female seer (völva) to perform forbidden magic, which ruined his masculine status (ergi).
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Keep seething kikes
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>>25157411

Gesta Danorum (The Deeds of the Danes, Book 3)

If you are looking for a story where Odin literally puts on a dress and acts as a woman, the definitive source is the 12th-century Danish history book Gesta Danorum, written in Latin by the historian Saxo Grammaticus.
In this text, Odin’s son Baldr has been killed. A prophet tells Odin that he must father a vengeful son with a human princess named Rindr to avenge Baldr's death. However, Rindr repeatedly rejects Odin because he is an old man.
To sneak past her guards and get close to her, Odin uses magic to disguise himself:
• First, he disguises himself as a soldier, but fails.
• Next, he disguises himself as a blacksmith, but fails.
• Finally, he puts on women's clothing (puellari veste sumpta) and pretends to be a female physician or medicine woman named Wecha (or Veha).
Under this female disguise, Odin gains entry to Rindr’s private bedchamber under the pretense of "curing" her of a sickness, after which he forcefully conceives his son Váli with her.
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>>25157402
>I am an actual Neoplatonist so I do believe it desu
>I believe in greek shit and that's why i believe in norse shit

lmfao
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Seethe kikes
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>>25157385
Nothing Christian, Muslim or Jewish pre-dates 1000AD.

8 kun ((( D O T))) top/ pol/ res /13610564. html

All Abrahamics are just debased and fraudulent re-branding of Zoro concepts. Kinda like how Beaners can't create car designs, but like to hang lots of dingle-berries on other's designs to make "low riders".


Core Beliefs and Philosophy

The central philosophy of Zoroastrianism revolves around a simple, actionable maxim: Good Thoughts (Humata), Good Words (Hukhta), and Good Deeds (Hvarshta).

Concept Description
Supreme Deity Ahura Mazda ("Wise Lord"), the omniscient, omnipotent, and supreme god of order and absolute goodness.
Cosmic Dualism The universe is a battleground between Ahura Mazda (truth and light) and Angra Mainyu (chaos, destruction, and darkness).
Human Agency Humans possess complete free will and must choose between the path of truth (Asha) or deceit (Druj).
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We’re not worshipping your kike psy op any more
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>>25157412
Moses also wrote,
Deuteronomy 21:
10 “When you go out to battle against your enemies, and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take them away captive,
11 and see among the captives a beautiful woman, and have a desire for her and would take her as a wife for yourself,
12 then you shall bring her into your house, and she shall shave her head and trim her nails.
13 She shall also remove the clothes of her captivity and shall remain in your house, and mourn her father and mother for a full month; and after that you may go in to her and be her husband, and she shall be your wife.
14 It shall be, if you are not pleased with her, then you shall let her go wherever she wishes; but you shall certainly not sell her for money, you shall not mistreat her, because you have humbled her."

So, no, that verse does not mean "sexual slavery". Adultery was punishable by death under the mosaic law. No one is allowed to have "sex slaves", you illiterate retard.
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>>25157417
Whoa, people come up with stories. Wow.
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>>25157385
Based thread. Have a bump anon

Keep making these, It certainly makes spiritual brownoids seethe
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CHRISTIANS WORSHIP JEWS
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>>25157418
1. Where did I say I was into any Norse shit


2. Neoplatonism isn’t Greek shit anymore then Buddhism is simply jeet shit it’s a whole metaphysical system
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They’re spamming this thread out of existence. HAIL THE GODS!!!!
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>>25157412
Here is the first section. Let me know when you are ready, and just say "next" for the next part.
## Part 1: The Human Tribe is the Active Subject
Judges 1:19 reads: "Now the Lord was with Judah, and they took possession of the hill country; but they could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley because they had iron chariots."
The grammatical structure of the original Biblical Hebrew text clarifies that Judah failed to overcome the chariots, not God.
In the original Hebrew syntax, when a sequence of action verbs is used, the verbs inherit their subject from the primary active agent established in the clause.

* The verse begins by establishing the relationship: "And Yahweh was with Judah."
* The verbs that immediately follow—driving out the inhabitants of the hills and failing to conquer the valley—apply directly to Judah.

Judah is the active physical army in the sentence. God is mentioned as the spiritual supporter accompanying them, but Judah remains the subject executing the physical military actions. Therefore, when the verse transitions to the military failure at the end, the grammatical subject does not change; it still refers to the army of Judah.
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>>25157385
reported
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>>25157412
## Part 2: The Repeated Grammatical Idiom (Lo Lehoriš)
The absolute structural proof rests on the precise phrase translated as "could not drive out." In the original Hebrew, this is written as כִּי לֹא לְהוֹרִישׁ (kî lō ləhōwrîš), which literally translates to "but it was not for them to possess."
This specific grammatical idiom combines a negative particle with an infinitive construct. Throughout the rest of Judges 1, this exact structural formula is used as a repetitive refrain to catalog the military failures of the human tribes, not God:

* Verse 21: Benjamin did not drive out the Jebusites.
* Verse 27: Manasseh did not take possession of Beth-shean.
* Verse 29: Ephraim did not drive out the Canaanites.

Because the exact same Hebrew phrasing is used mechanically for all the other human tribes in the immediate context, grammatical consistency dictates that Judah is the subject failing here, exactly like the others. It describes human capability and failure, not a limitation of divine power.
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>>25157412
## Part 3: Pronoun Clarity and the Broader Context
Older translations like the King James Version used an ambiguous singular pronoun ("but he could not drive out"), which understandably caused confusion for English readers. However, modern translations like the NASB, ESV, and NIV resolve this ambiguity by explicitly translating the subject as "they" to ensure it clearly points back to the men of Judah.
The text is simply stating that despite God being with them, Judah's army allowed their fear of iron technology to stall their campaign. The broader narrative of Judges confirms that iron chariots were never a barrier to God's power. Later in Judges 4:15, God easily throws Sisera's army—which possessed 900 iron chariots—into a panic and defeats them completely when Israel actually acts in full faith.
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>>25157422
>a bunch of Iron Age Jew pinky promised they weren’t sex slaves
> so they weren’t sex slaves

Brain dead mullato
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Never let them convince you that Western civilization built by European Men is somehow related or founded on judeo-cuckstian values.
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>>25157425
>meanawhile your boss and his boss boss is a white man, just sappining your energy for 401k
You burgers are like economic babbies
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>>25157412
It says "The Lord was with JUDAH, so HE drove them out, but they had iron chariots so HE could not drive them out" refering to Judah, not God. Feeble-minded ESL moron.
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>>25157422
It literally uses the word CAPTIVE in the verse

corresponding verses state they were CHILDREN

spiritually jewish pilpul
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>if you go back to the original Hebrew it ackshully means this
>no I will never once read a pagan text in original Latin
Kike mullato
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>>25157412
## Part 1: A Record of Corruption, Not a Divine Command
The account of the foreskin bride-price is located in 1 Samuel 18:25–27 (not the Book of Judges). The most critical point to understand when responding to attacks using this passage is that God never commanded anyone to collect foreskins.
The entire idea originates from King Saul, who at this point in the narrative is depicted as a deeply corrupt, jealous, and spiritually fallen ruler. Saul's actual motive was murder: he asked for 100 Philistine foreskins as a bride-price for his daughter Michal, explicitly hoping that David would be killed in battle trying to fulfill the impossible task.
The Bible records many historical events, sins, and acts of political brutality without endorsing them. This text is a historical narrative exposing Saul’s malicious political schemes and David's ruthless ambition to secure a royal marriage. It describes the wicked actions of human rulers rather than a moral law handed down by God.
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>>25157412
## Part 2: Ancient Near Eastern Context (Proof of Casualty)
To a modern reader, collecting foreskins sounds incredibly bizarre and grotesque, but in ancient Near Eastern warfare, it served a grim, practical purpose: it was a metric for an accurate body count.
In ancient battles, victorious soldiers frequently brought back body parts—such as hands, ears, or heads—to prove exactly how many enemy combatants they had personally killed in order to claim their military rewards.
Because the Israelites practiced circumcision as part of their covenant, a foreskin was the only definitive physical proof that a slain soldier was a Philistine (famously referred to in the text as the "uncircumcised") and not a fallen fellow Israelite. King Saul demanded this specific trophy so David could not cheat the arrangement by killing random local civilians to hit his required military quota.
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>>25157412
## Part 3: The Theological Contrast to Christianity
Using this passage to attack Christianity fundamentally misunderstands how Christian theology handles the Old Testament narrative.
First, the Bible contains both descriptive passages (history recording what happened) and prescriptive passages (commands on how to live). This narrative is purely descriptive; it is an unvarnished look at the violent realities of ancient warfare and the deep flaws of Israel’s early kings, not a moral blueprint for readers to follow.
Second, Christianity teaches that the political and military system of ancient Israel was superseded by Jesus Christ under the New Covenant. In the New Testament, physical circumcision—and the ethnic warfare tied to it—is explicitly declared irrelevant to salvation. The passage simply records a corrupt king's assassination plot and ancient battlefield accounting, which carries no moral obligations for Christians today.
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>>25157438


Nice chat gpt


The Loki story is the same thing as the foreskin pile a instructive tale
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>>25157413
But Odin and Thor are cross-dressers too. And Odin rides the horse born out of Loki's transsexual bestiality relations.
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>>25157426
When you say you're a Neoplatonist, do you believe Odin and the other Norse gods actually exist as divine beings, or do you understand them as symbolic expressions of a deeper, unified reality?

Or are you just looking for some kind of white european identity
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>>25157436
It’s a bot don’t bother
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>>25157443
I believe there is the one. Everything emanates from the one reality, gods, spirits all of it like light being refracted
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>>25157443
> do you believe Odin and the other Norse gods actually exist as divine beings, or do you understand them as symbolic expressions of a deeper, unified reality?
What do you think a 'divine being' is, genius?
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>>25157420
Ancestor Worship seems comfy, factual and logical.

WTF else should a person "worship" and the flip side is you should ensure that you will have people worship you some day and be worthy of their worship.
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>>25157432
More like:
>"the same pentateuch I'm quoting vague passages from and projecting my perverted delusional fantasies onto God with to assassinate his character that make no explicit mention of sex slavery, also explicitly forbid sex slavery and label any sex outside of marriage including such as a capital offense"
Based on the reading comprehension you've displayed so far, I'm not surprised you didn't comprehend my post, similar to how you cannot comprehend the Bible.
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>>25157436
>captive = sex slave
What the ESL?
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>>25157445
Ironically deep Abrahamic shit comes to a lot of the same conclusions.

No for me this goes beyond white identity like this is my actual metaphysics
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>>25157441
>genetic fallacy
I accept your concession.
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>>25157451
You forgot to edit out the AI writing cliches from your rapid fire slop posts
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>>25157446
>What do you think a 'divine being' is, genius?

I'm asking if he thinks these gods exist as actual spiritual entities, or if they are simply used as symbolism of some kind of ideal.
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>>25157447
>worship dead people who couldn't even save themselves from death
Futile and worthless idols. Extremely low IQ and cringe-inducing.
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>>25157448
>women taken captive in war just willingly become loving wives
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>>25157454
>worshipping a guy who couldn’t even save himself from execution and instead his followers are still coping it’s 4d chess 2 milliena later

Zero self awareness golem
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>>25157453
>doesnt understand the implication, semitic level of abstraction ability

Yes yes, don't worry, they are literal beings like us, just move on to the Christcrazy thread.
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>>25157452
I didn't forget anything. I don't care if you can tell I use an AI to structure/format my argument more quickly and not waste hours responding to multiple posters. You are a demon-possessed simpleton, seething that you can't waste as much of my time, manually and archaically typing out responses to you. With voice-to-text, I can BTFO your idiotic arguments in seconds and quickly pull up multiple sources, instead of manually searching for them. Genetic/origin fallacy is a concession that you cannot address the substance of my argument. Therefore, I accept your concession, pseudointellectual midwit with no understanding of basic logic or reasoning.
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>>25157453
I don’t understand the difference, both?
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>Odin: Be your friend’s true friend. Return gift for gift. Repay laughter with laughter again but betrayal with treachery.
>Paul: Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone.

>Odin: Wherever you recognize evil, call it evil, and give your enemies no peace
>Jesus But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.

>Odin: A wayfarer should not walk unarmed, but have his weapons to hand- he knows not when he may need a spear, or what menace meet on the road ahead.
>Jesus: Put your sword back in its place, for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.

>Odin: Cattle die, and kinsmen die,and so one dies oneself; but the good name never dies of him who glorious lives.
>Jesus: Do not practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

>Odin: Never be the first to break the bond with your friend; sorrow eats the heart if you cannot tell someone all your thoughts
>Jesus: If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

>Odin: This I advise you first: that toward your kinsmen you act blamelessly. Do not seek vengeance, though they provoke you; they say the dead profit from that.
>Jesus: Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
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>>25157456
>raises Himself from the dead
>"couldn't save Himself from execution"
>was purposely executed to pay for mankind's sins, by becoming one of us
Fundamentally illiterate and retarded false equivalency.
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>>25157458
Tell me more about women captured in war become consenting wives en masse
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>>25157457
>doesnt understand the implication, semitic level of abstraction ability
>Yes yes, don't worry, they are literal beings like us, just move on to the Christcrazy thread.
You either don't understand MY implications, or you just don't want to think about them.
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>>25157385
>Return to your roots, Timmy
Ok.
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>>25157461
>it was actually 4d chess
>2000 more years and he will be back

Yawn
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>>25157460
Odin cannot defeat a giant dog. My God conquered death, itself. Questions, LARPagans?
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Shiva is the eastern Dionysus, the son of Zeus (Look up Beltane, the Anthesteria, and Maha Shivaratri) and Aghorism is the surviving version of the old Greek Dionysian rituals that included the Sparagmos during which sometimes humans themselves were torn apart and eaten raw. That's why he was called "The Cannibal", and doing this was seen as eating the God and drinking the wine during was "drinking his blood". Today Aghoris eat the dead and enter into frenzied states, use different substances during rituals, force themselves to confront the most "disgusting" aspects of reality to break through, etc.
Alexander the Great himself identified Shiva with Dionysus, recognizing his rituals as being practically the same as their own in Greece.
Their extreme ways are part of realizing the non-dual reality of things and they are a particularly rapid way of doing so. Rudra (Shiva) also closely ties to another European figure: Odin. Kundalini is a fundamental part of Shaivism as well, tying to the Thyrsus, the seven pieces of Zagreus (Dionysus before being reassembled) in Orphism, and Odin hanging on Yggdrasil.
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>>25157463
I understand your implications, they are just of a lower order and the same literalism that caused the Christians to regard the immortal gods as chthonic entities inferior to their version of the concept, and therefore it can be discarded. Meanwhile, you still haven't gotten it, nor understood how the ancients, particularly Platonists regarded and spoke about the gods.
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>>25157462

Address the Straw Man: Legal Rights vs. Emotional Consent

You are not arguing that these women fell in love with their captors. You are arguing that the Mosaic Law stripped the soldier of his wartime "right" to treat women as sexual property.
• In the Ancient Near East: Captured women were routinely kept as chatel slaves, used for immediate sexual gratification, passed around to other soldiers, or sold in markets when the captor grew bored.
• Under Mosaic Law: The law completely upended this. If an Israelite soldier wanted a captive woman, he was strictly forbidden from treating her as property. He was legally forced to elevate her status to a full wife, giving her the exact same legal protections, household rights, and financial security as an native Israelite woman.
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>>25157462

The Power Dynamics of Deuteronomy 21

The rules in Deuteronomy 21 are explicitly designed to cool down male lust and give the woman institutional backing:
• The Delayed Timeline: The soldier had to bring her into his home, shave her head, and trim her nails—actions meant to strip away her immediate wartime physical appeal and halt impulsive, lust-driven assault.
• The One-Month Buffer: She was granted 30 days entirely to herself to mourn her family. The soldier could not touch her during this time. This effectively instituted a legal cooling-off period, completely counter to standard ancient war-rape practices.
• The Trapdoor (Freedom from Slavery): Deuteronomy 21:14 states that if the husband later decides he is "not pleased with her," he cannot sell her, trade her, or keep her as a servant. He is forced to grant her total freedom specifically because he humbled her. In the ancient world, an unloved slave was sold or killed; under this law, she became a free agent.
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>pilpul ai bot

Shill nigger
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>>25157462

The Mosaic Capital Punishment Context

Your opponent's sarcasm ignores how strictly the Pentateuch regulated sexual activity. Under Mosaic Law, sexual access was exclusively restricted to the boundaries of marriage.
• No Concubinage/Prostitution Rules for Captives: Leviticus and Deuteronomy carry strict capital penalties for extramarital sex, rape of betrothed women, and adultery.
• By forcing the soldier to marry her, the law forced him into a lifelong covenant of provision. If he engaged in casual sex slavery or used her outside of a legal marriage framework, he violated the strict code of holiness and faced divine or civil judgment.

How to phrase your direct rebuttal:

"I am not arguing that these women were 'consenting' in a modern romantic sense. I am pointing out that the Mosaic Law legally abolished the ancient custom of sex slavery. In the ancient world, captive women were treated as unprotected property to be raped, sold, or discarded. The Mosaic Law stripped soldiers of those rights, forced them into a 30-day cooling-off period, and legally compelled them to provide the woman with the status, permanence, and security of a full wife. If the marriage failed, she could never be enslaved or sold—she was granted total freedom. It was a legal framework designed to restrain wartime brutality, not condone slavery."
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>>25157466
>LARPagans?
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>>25157412
>iron chariots meme
Lol this died like 10 years ago. It was talking about Judah there, not God Himself.
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>>25157474
>oy vey if you read the Hebrew it actually means this

Don’t care
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>>25157462
## Part 1: The Adultery Law (Death Penalty)
If a soldier used a captured woman for casual sex without marrying her, he violated the absolute prohibition on extramarital sex.
Leviticus 20:10

“If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.”

Deuteronomy 22:22

“If a man is discovered committing adultery, both he and the woman must die. In this way, you will purge Israel of such evil.”
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>>25157462
## Part 2: The Rape Laws (Equated to Murder)
Mosaic Law explicitly addressed non-consensual sexual violations, isolating the woman from blame and demanding the execution of the rapist alone.
Deuteronomy 22:25–26

“But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is just like that of a man who attacks and murders his neighbor...”
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You should Genuinely be banned for shitting up the thread with lazy chat gpt slop
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>>25157462
## Part 3: Prohibition on Commercializing Women
The legal codes strictly barred transforming women into unprotected, commercialized sexual commodities.
Leviticus 19:29

“Do not profane your daughter by making her a prostitute, lest the land fall into prostitution and the land become full of depravity.”
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>>25157473
>"your own people"
>*has 0 traceable non-Christian ancestors*
Well, maybe you do actually, since you seem like a jew.
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>>25157471
>textbook genetic fallacy, because no argument
Concession accepted.
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>>25157475
Even in English it means that. You just don't know how to read.
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>1/3 of the thread posts are chat gpt
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Yo Op the Snark Left discord is full if psycho faggots, trannies and retarded Leftyz. Try joining it kek.
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>>25157480
Denounce the Talmud and Bible and Quran nigger
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Spirit indians and jews don't want Timmy to know Christ is Creator. It's that simple. They're working for the Devil.
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>>25157465
The crucifixion was planned since before the beginning of time and is prophesied in the Old Testament. Furthermore, the Shroud of Turin proves unequivocally in the resurrection. You are willfully blind and ignorant.
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>>25157484
Wtf are you talking about
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>>25157473
It is a Larp because Leftist and Libshites hate families and the concept of raising a family. Its Basic Commie Trannie logic kek.
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>>25157485
>There's 100,000 years of human history
Kek
>Using secular slop "BCE"
Kek
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>>25157488
Join the 4th Reich kek.
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>>25157490
>earth is 2k years old
Even other Christ cucks laugh at you tards
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>>25157486
Christ is not and was not God. Sorry.

Paul was a false apostle.
Every gospel but mark is pure apocrypha.
Mark is only based on the original gospel. Only the masons even have it.

Also, you're an idolater for worshiping a cross, a bigger idolater for drawing bearded god men, and the biggest if you have every prayed to mary or a saint.
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>>25157492
>Even other Christ cucks laugh at you tards
Go back to your FaggotReddit kek.
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>>25157493
Ok ranjeet!
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>>25157494
How old do you think the earth is bro redpill me
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>>25157480
>your ancestors got fooled
>that means you need to do what the vatican says
No. Even dumber than "your ancestors got fooled, worship lesser spirits".

I denounce the trinity. God is God, the creator. Christ is Christ, the son of man. Worship only the father.

Retvrn to monotheism.

>>25157495
Ok baron rothschild
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>>25157493
>Christ is not and was not God. Sorry. Paul was a false apostle. Every gospel but mark is pure apocrypha. Mark is only based on the original gospel. Only the masons even have it. Also, you're an idolater for worshiping a cross, a bigger idolater for drawing bearded god men, and the biggest if you have every prayed to mary or a saint.
Explain why is this bad. Did some hurt you in life. Because you seem sad. Why do you even hate Christianity or is Theology in general. Honestly i never understood this rage from any of (You) when you can worship who ever you like.
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>>25157497
Muslim nigger what you described is jsut Islam from first principles or jehovas witness
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>>25157496
>How old do you think the earth is bro redpill me
Billions of years old obviously. Why are (You) even asking this?
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>>25157385
>Kike spam thread
>Gets BTFO'd by new random anons daily

Renounce the Talmud word for word and not denounce.
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>>25157498
You shall not make a graven image of anything that is in heaven or on earth to worship
You shall not have any Gods but God alone
God is one

Deal with it
>b-b-b-but the council decided....
Roman subversion.
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>>25157498
Honestly I don’t hate Christianity outside of like dispensationalist American evangelicals desu
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>>25157501
Why can't these retards just admit Hitler was right.
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>>25157385
Majority of ancient religions are based on worship of celestial objects. All these motifs and epics of some dude "slaying" a huge dragon or the like are exaggerated descriptions of what people saw in the sky of which some made things up to pull others to their cult.

Abrahamism is the truth if you really understand history. Christianity is cucked. Judaism is evil. Where are the Saturn and Jupiter worshippers today? Gone along with their dieties. It cannot get any clear than that unless you're inclining towards falsehood because of arrogance.
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>>25157503
>Honestly I don’t hate Christianity outside of like dispensationalist American evangelicals desu
Ok i get that. But this rage seems like you are in sum faggot stage play. I honestly don't care if Pagans want to worship Odin or Shiva. Im just sick of the dishonest slander. Calling everyone Jews or worships a Jew to people they don't like. All the made up "gotcha" morality arguments based on conjecture. Its all just annoying asf anon.
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Based mods
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oy vey they made another pagan thread move it to bant NOW, shut it down
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>>25157385
Welcome to the abyss known as bant. Where your worthless shill thread will die.
>>544175756
Hey kike, do you drink cum like the "Le based pagan" that you larp as? Is that why Tel Aviv is the faggot capital of the world? Same with your canaanite ancestors trooning themselves out for gay demonic favors? Do you really believe that anybody but brain dead boomers believe that you are the Jews from the Bible? You know that DNA testing exists and it says that you are all not only faggots, but you are liars as well. Crazy, who would have thought.
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>>25157403
Cute office. Renounce the Talmud word for word and NOT denounce.
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>>25157466
Based. A fellow human spotted. I'll add you in my prayer tonight anon..
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>>25157526
>renounce
>NOT denounce
Do you know what the difference is?
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>>25157517
>oy vey ((((((they))))) made another pagan thread
kike threads belong in the trash



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