Why are companies taking away remote work? I don't understand it. Unless you actually need to be in the office repairing equipment or if you're working in a cleared, air-gapped environment, literally everything can be done from home with the power of the internet. We would have less people on the roads, less pollution, more free time with families, less stress, and dozens of more benefits. Are we really just goycattle that need to be put in pens so commercial real estate owners don't lose money, oil/automotive industry gets their cattle in cars, spending on vehicles, maintance, gas, etc, and whatever else? Grim if so. The world could actually be a better place.
>>62272565Indians have remote work
>>62272578This.Are you an Indian, OP? Go to the office like a proper white lad. That'll be one hour to, and one hour from please.
>>62272565For almost all employees, productivity during remote work is substantially lower than productivity while in the office, and the difference in productivity is more than the cost of the office space.>less people on the roadsyou're free to take public transit>less pollutionyou're free to take public transit or ride a bike>more free time with familiesFeel free to thank me for saving you from that.>less stressWhat's less stressful than reading the newspaper or playing a game while being whisked along on public transit?>dozens of more benefitsYou haven't named a single benefit so far, so I don't believe you have a dozen benefits.
>>62272565executives are low IQ psychopaths who don't understand management or incentives. im a middle manager who works remotely. unfortunately my direct reports aren't grandfathered in to remote, but i don't care to enforce the hybrid requirement. if i ever lose my wfh job I'll probably shoot myself.
>>62272594>>62272578jeets arent human they dont count as people
>>62272603Jump off a cliff kike. Good bait though if you're trolling.>>62272612Makes sense, my aunt is an exec at some corp and she's a complete psychopath and narcissist. I guess those are the traits you need to move up the corporate ladder in this hellscape.
>>62272565everyone knows remote """work""" means gooning to futa loli while on the clock. hopefully you cashed in on the opportunity while it was there because it's never coming back.
>>62272565because we genuinely work less? I used to remote work and so did my colleagues and we literally didn't do shit around the clock most of the time
>>62272697uh, right>>62272727Most office jobs are like only a few hours of work a day, the rest is looking busy. We could easily have 20 hour weeks, probably even less but for some reason that's unacceptable.
>>62272565>fire honest white americans>hire indians>their culture is to fuck over everyone possible including their employer>surprised managers put a lid on it
>>62272776close, but this is what really happens>outsource half of the jobs to India>have 0 control or information what they're working on>but they're cheap>but the productivity dips>require local wagies to return to office in hope this will fix the problem>(it doesn't)
>>62272565Most of the wfh things are the low hanging fruit that are going to get scooped up by ai
>>62272565Employers are either renting locations or own them outright. Hence you have the two reasons;1. If rentoids, its to justify the expense,2. If less people had to go to offices, it would decrease the value of the property which would be bad for companies that own them outright. Additionally its easier to surveil and control people if they are there in person, and their expenses will be higher due to travel costs and they will have less free time, which will stress them out and thus you pay less severance in the long run due to the lower castes inevitable burn out and eventual quitting lol. >We would have less people on the roads, less pollution, more free time with families, less stress, and dozens of more benefits. How does any of this benefit the shareholders?
>>62272895i saw a recent study that showed remote boosts productivity. this was a recent study, not one from 2023 and funded by big tech companies wanting to justify RTO with fake data.remote saves employers money. it basically outsources the cost of corporate HQ (lease, utilities, etc.) and, if the company is smart, they can capitalize on wage arbitrage by hiring in lower paying cities at market wages.
>>62273048Cope harder lil bro
>>62273094im a fully remote senior manager, lil shit skinned niggerbeast zoomer. people who have skills and experience have more options.
I would not want people working from home either. Common sense.
>In officeThe managers/owners see the office drones scrambling to get work done and feel like lords watching their serfs harvest grain to fill their coffers, they even host team building events like a lord hosts a feast to flex on their fellow nobles and display their generosity>Remote workThey feel like they are paying Indians on fiverr to complete a task and are hoping that the result isnt complete dogshit and they know that employees are using a mouse jiggler and getting wine drunk before zoom meetings
>>62273137>in officeI copefarm reddit is every day and the modern office seems like hell.
They don't trust you lot to slack off.
>>62272565cos the boomers pension funds (401k, superannuation et cetera) are heavily invested in commercial real-estate which only worth anything if it is fully occupied with low value human capital (aka niggercattle) at all times. remote work does not keep the offices full.
>>62272565>Are we really just goycattle that need to be put in pens so commercial real estate owners don't lose money, oil/automotive industry gets their cattle in cars, spending on vehicles, maintance, gas, etc, and whatever else?Yes. Return to office mandates are primarily about the second order effects of having office workers in downtowns. I'll be as brief as possible. After post-WWII suburbanization, desegregation, and off-shoring of manufacturing...American downtowns died out and cratered with few exceptions (NYC, Chicago, SF, DC?) but even those cities had horrific downtowns in the 70s and 80s. Basically, all throughout the USA, basically the only thing keeping downtowns from becoming complete wastelands was that you had lots of office workers. People would go to the office downtown. From 9am to 5pm, there would be people downtown. They would spend money going to lunch downtown. They would spend money sometimes shopping after work. The businesses that they worked at would spend money on rent. If they owned the buildings, they would be paying large amounts in taxes to the municipal government. These taxes amount to way more per area than single family home ownership or even apartment buildings. Those taxes are primarily what pays for city services (cops, firefighters, public workers) and infrastructure (fixing roads, maintaining water and sewage etc). Keep in mind, the "revitalized" downtowns of the 2000s and 2010s were still a far cry from how dense and populated they were before the 1960s. All these city governments were basically hanging on by a thread, largely due to office workers and their employers. Then they started work from home en masse, and it was like you were ripping the bottom out from these cities. All of a sudden no downtown workers. No one spending money on parking on transit. No one spending money getting lunch or going to convenience stores downtown. Far fewer people going out to dinner after work downtown.
>>62274168All of a sudden the companies have no reason to pay rent on the offices. The building owners start losing money paying taxes and upkeep on the buildings. Then they sell the buildings for way less than they were worth in 2019. Since they sold for a lower price, that means their valuation is lower which means the taxes owed on the property are lower. That means the city governments are getting way less money. Now they can't fund the police and fire and infrastructure payments. Then the quality of life in the city gets even worse. There are fewer businesses open. This means people who actually do live in the city don't like it as much. So they start selling their houses and condos and moving out. The population leaves and takes tax money with it. And it's basically a never-ending spiral. It was largely propped up by office workers, and without them, entire cities literally crumble to the groundPic related, The AT&T building in downtown St. Louis. STL has been a shithole for decades, but even after it desegregated, the downtown area still had a large number of professional office workers at respectable companies. It was the only thing keeping their downtown alive at all besides the baseball stadium (football stadium shut down 15 years ago). Then COVID happened and it cratered.Again, pic related. This Skyscraper sold for over $200 million in 2006. In 2024 it sold for $3.4 million, 2% of it's value less than 20 years ago. All because some people got to work from home for a couple years
>>62272603Correct. Imagining otherwise involves thinking employees are just as or more productive working but corporations just prefer to spend all sorts of money leasing and maintaining a building to torture employees. Which by itself is possible for a retarded lefty, except it also requires imagining companies don't like earning as much money as possible, which generally causes the seething reddit to meltdown.
>>62274169>>62274168This requires a level of retardation to believe companies are mandating this incredibly costly move out of some charitable civic duty.
>>62274231>>62274236how much do you make a year?
>>62274236Nothing charitable about it. They're the ones who own the properties. They're the ones who run the government. They don't want number to go down...they want number to go up. Why would they want the value of their property to go down? How would that help them in any way?
>>62274274>it came to me in a drug-induced dreamMost companies don't own their own building though.
>>62272565Because wagies deserve to be humiliated, removing their commute and letting them get paid for their adult day care job while not pretending to be busy in the office was too good.
>>62274274The companies renting the offices are not the same ones that own the companies.
>>62272603Source?
>>62272565they want you to quit retard
