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>>62275710
The market share will probably be even more after this oil supply shock
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They should just ban EVs. All energy should be used in AI datacenters.
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>>62275740
>>62275732
>>62275710
EVs really won in Trump's economy
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Why do the japanese and the americans hate EVs?
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>>62275849
They’re gay and for fags
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>>62275849
pic related
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>>62275857
Why?
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Ev market is propped up by disability in the UK
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>>62275892
>20% of the British car market is tax payers buying cars for retards
Lmao. Someone post the social contract
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>>62275858
Japan insists on doing stupid things for some reason. Japan, with its lack of natural resources, is a country that should relentlessly pursue EVs in combination with nuclear power and wind power. Yet they insist on relying on imported oil and LNG imported from far away.

Industry influence can't explain it; Japan is one of the big three battery countries, at least when it comes to NMC batteries.
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>>62275966
electric cars are shit dude. The genius minds at Japan's auto makers know that a highly efficient gas engine is more reliable, last longer and is maintainable far beyond electric cars. EV production does more damage to earth (via rare earth mining) then gas engine production, including the carbon output of the engine life!
EVs also weight so much they are destroying the infrastructure they require at faster speeds then a combustion car.
EVs are a joke, rather then those, we should be building electric trams and train systems. the idea of the car is the problem not what fuel it uses.

Toyota had a leak about a meeting where they cancelled their electric car due it not being able to live up to the toyota name, because they just wont last. and battery replacement = new car.
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>>62276108
Electric rail transport is good, however, road transport cannot be fully substituted by rail transport. Hence EVs are still necessary.

No matter how well you might build an ICE engine, it lasts only as long as the availability of fuel.

An EV is usually easier to maintain than an ICEV because of lower mechanical complexity.

Who the fuck cares about pollution, as long as it happens overseas or somewhere few people live.
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>>62276108
>electric cars are shit dude.
No
>gas engine is more reliable, last longer and is maintainable far beyond electric cars.
No
>EV production does more damage to earth
No
>(via rare earth mining)
No, they don't actually need rare earths for battery nor motor
>then gas engine production
then? you're brown
>EVs are a joke, rather then those,
If you can't write english get off this board
>and battery replacement = new car.
This is the one part that's accurate. EVs are a scam, they're built to last 8 years (battery has an 8-year warranty)

$2000 worth of solar and you can drive your EV for life
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>>62275966
That's because they love hybrids which have excellent fuel economy.
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>>62276300
They don't love plug-in hybrids.

Even an excellent fuel economy is not-so-excellent in a scenario in which fuel prices double or in which the country can't import fuel at all
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>>62276108
Japan builds for themselves first and foremost and then uses that economy of scale to dominate in the export business. This is always how they've worked.
Japanese automakers are interested in hybrids and even hydrogen over electric vehicles for that reason. Why? Because the Japanese electric grid is quite literally the worst grid in any first world country. It makes the Americans look competent. To invest in electric cars for their domestic market is suicide, so the world market gets what they get from the Nips.
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2nd hand market will always be a shambles for EVs.
Buying a 10 year old ICE car, which many people do out of affordability, is absolutely fine, buying a 10 year old EV is financial suicide.
You're also a fool if you buy new, up to 50% depreciation (model dependant) after just 1 year.
If you were going to buy one, there's a window where the car is 2-5 years old where it might make sense if you are desperate to get an EV. Outside of that you may as well donate your money to the nearest drain.
I don't want to hear about some Tesla that's done 6 gorillian miles, that's not a typical case.
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>>62276185
>Who the fuck cares about pollution
you do dumbass
as per
>>62275966
>Yet they insist on relying on imported oil and LNG imported from far away.

>road transport cannot be fully substituted by rail transport
are you retarded? it used to exist. final mile by rail no. LA used to have such extensive tram systems owning a car was laughable.
>An EV is usually easier to maintain than an ICEV because of lower mechanical complexity.
yea, I'll give you that, however a 4 banger toyota will out live 2 EVs back to back.


>>62276271
>No, they don't actually need rare earths for battery nor motor
RETARD ALERT RETARD ALERT
>$2000 worth of solar and you can drive your EV for life
DEFCON 1 RETARD ALERT WOOOP WOOP DEFCON 1 RETARD ALERT

you retards wish I was a brown 3rd worlder because I make too much sense. Electric cars still need metal, oil derived products to function. Its like the hippies telling everyone to ride a bicycle (with petroleum made rubber and grease)
Post your Electric cars you retards own since you love them more then your gay lover
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>>62276367
if everyone went electric every gird in every nation would be struggling. weak argument.
Japanese Manufacturers have Honor and won't sell crap that doesn't last. especially when compared to older models.
If you made automobiles would you start producing a new model that wont last longer then an older model?
Its insane
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Nice AI LLM thread.
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>>62276391
>Who the fuck cares about pollution, as long as it happens overseas or somewhere few people live.
>Yet they insist on relying on imported oil and LNG imported from far away.
The problem is the dependence on events outside your own control

You need trucks for efficient capillary distribution. In theory, a country can get by without passenger cars, but good luck convincing consumers of that. There are some people who take public transport only if they absolutely can't afford cars, and never would willingly choose to do so. There are some people who live in sparsely populated areas where rail is not a good transport solution compared to road cars.
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>>62276449
>There are some people who take public transport only if they absolutely can't afford cars
>There are some people who live in sparsely populated areas where rail is not a good transport solution compared to road cars.
Are you big auto lobbyist? you really need to learn history and what used to exist. your car centric brain can't even comprehend that not everyone wants to drive to work everyday if it can be helped.
>sit in traffic for 1-2 hours
>35 min train ride plus walk
hmmmm tough decision.
And if you can't walk due health reasons. that sucks! time to die! This in turn will help the whole economy because those useless fucks die and the younger generation will be healthier due to the walk ability in grained in them.
or i guess they can get a little rascal for ripping around



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