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i looked into the price of SNES games as well as master system back in the days:

-average snes game sold for 50$ in the early 9às, inflation adjusted that's 120$ today
Some sold higher than that : donkey kong came for 70$, so 150$ today

-30 to 60$ for sega master system, but it was the late 80s so like 130$ today.

Why are gooners crying about the price of their vidyas? Things used to be way more expensive for a 2 d platformer that would give you max 100 hours of play if not half. Also today's collector price for most of those games is still LOWER than what people paid for when it came out brand new back in the days, so still no profit after holding for 30+ years kek
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>>62283119
There was a time not so long ago when you could hardly give that shit away. Nobody wanted to play old 2D games when there was amazing new stuff coming out that you couldn't have even imagined a few years prior.
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>>62283119
Oldfag here, they’re crying because all these games were $1 at your local flea market in 2005, AND THEY DIDN’T EVEN WANT TO BUY. It’s even worse than missing bitcoin because it was right under their nose, they saw, they knew, and they shrugged it off.
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>>62283131
snes games were cheap like 10 + years ago. Master system is still very cheap, but nobody gives a shit. I guess rn the money is in xbox / game cube games
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Also, thread's theme:

https://youtu.be/E5_DDRkH70E?t=458
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So as a former soiboi with a massive collection of everything from
>atari
>nes
>snes
>genesis/32x
>n64
>gc
>ps1
>dc
What am I in for and also when/how do I sell to get max value for all this shit that tbqhfam I'm just as comfy emulating? Good crt monitors are like digging for dinosaur bones and composite input screens are like asking about where the bluray players are these days. This shit is collecting dust and I've got projects that need funding
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>>62283119
Back then the only markets were NA, SA, EU and JP, and there were fewer people in those markets. Also it was mostly for kids, while now it's for kids + teens + adults + grandmas, and both genders. Also now China and India have entered the market, so there are a lot more consumers. This allows developers to split the software cost on a lot more consumers, and the production of the hardware became cheaper as well, and online digital distribution basically killed cartridges and discs. The cartridges used to cost a lot.
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>>62284329
>Back then the only markets were NA, SA, EU and JP
We didn't know how good we had it. Aryan markets only. No surprise it all went downhill.

>>62284191
well, some retards actually bought the old game to play them, and the price dropped when they were reedited, like final fantasy 7, got myself a copy for 30$ after the remake. Before that it was 100$.
But, as an amateur of fine things, i have to say there is something unique about playing on the exact hardware of the time.

I don't expect that much of a growth for retro video games because of that. Also the hardware self destruct, you have to be able repair and maitain it and some chips can't be bought back.
However, some stuff is rare and will get only get more scarce so it could increase exponentially this decade.
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You people are so fucking stupid. Its the cartridge. Compared to the 20th century memory and manufacturing is dirt cheap.
People don't want 80$ video games because its genuinely ripping them off. Add in that a majority of game sales are digital now and therefore have lower overhead for distribution costs, and you're really paying that extra 20$ for DEI consulting, infinity third world outsourcing for cutscenes, and to pay one jillion middle managers salaries.
Bundle that with a corporate structure that milks people dry with microtransactions and treating customers like "consumers" and people won't fucking buy.
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>>62284586
nigger, i played 1K hours of counter strike and bought the game 10 years ago for 8 eurobuxxes. Do you think you could get the same value from a 130$ 2 d platformers finished in 30 hours?
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>>62284597
Thats the final factor. Collectible value. Physical copies are tangible and worth their value in resale.
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>>62284605
agreed. But i still find that those snes games and other old gen platforms were extremely expensive. Obviously at the time it was the best video games available so people were happy to pay but that's still very expensive, especially if you play some sega master system who aged so poorly you can't even be bother to play them 2 hours. 130++$ for a game like that was super expensive.
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>>62284628
I just explained it you dumb faggot. READ
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>>62284656
you didn't explain shit, it was very expensive, a bunch of plastic and one mass produced circuit board isn't worth that much
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>>62284666
0 iq mongrel. Kys
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>>62284681
same fagging phone poster, opinion discarded
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>>62283119
I think you'd just rent most of your games from a video store and then get like one or two for Christmas. Also people would share games with their friends because they weren't socially-handicapped tiktok scrollers.
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>>62284778
rent games? so lame. did anyone actually do that? you buy and resell second hand, game cost you 0 basically that's what i used to do with my ps2
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>>62284628
>at the time it was the best video games available so people
Home video games sucked compared to arcade games and everybody knew it, unless you had a Neo Geo (but each game was like $700 in today’s money)
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>>62286204
Street Fighter II for SNES was amazing despite not being arcade where some nignog could chimp out after getting assblasted by Blanka
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>>62285855
>rent games? so lame.
Less so than selling your own games.

>did anyone actually do that?
Yes and it was amazing, especially when renting those esoteric JP games and playing them with an adapter. It was like temporarily unlocking a new world, you were inviting all your friends to explore these games to the fullest for the weekend.

Of course a lonely consoomer from 2026 can’t get it.
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>>62286216
It was very enjoyable indeed, but still not as good as the arcade version.
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>>62283119
My most sacred memory is when my mom picked me up from 1st grade in 1987 and as we are driving home she told me that she got me a new video game where you can SAVE the game and start from there when you come back to it. WOW.
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>>62283119
When I got my first PC in 1997 at 14 I rarely bought games after that. I had consoles but I didn't have money to buy games and my parents wouldn't just buy me any game I wanted whenever.
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>>62283119
They're bitching just to bitch. There's also like 1000 ways to emulate those games and play them like the originals or better, so really they're retardedly nostalgic to have THE cartridge and then mad a bunch of other people are too
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>>62283133
Nobody is talking about used video games. They're crying because modern consoles are approaching a thousand bucks and moden games are heading towards 100. But anon correctly noted that back in the day, it was $50-60 for a new NES cartridge or a new computer game on three 360kb diskettes, and at the time minimum wage was something like $4 an hour. Adjusted for inflation, a game like Super Mario that you could beat in an hour, or Kings Quest that lasts you a couple of hours max, cost $161.
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>>62283131
>There was a time not so long ago when you could hardly give that shit away. Nobody wanted to play old 2D games when there was amazing new stuff coming out that you couldn't have even imagined a few years prior.
This
I bought a movie rental stores stock for peanuts when they were going broke in 2012, walked in and offered 2000$ cash for the lot (about 5000 DVDs and blu rays and 2500 PS1, PS2 and 360 games). It was a niche movie buff DVD and game store. Have a pretty complete movie and game library and enjoy it a lot to this day. I am randy marsh.
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>>62286669
>Nobody is talking about used video games.
OP was literally talking about "today's collector price for most of those games" but okay
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>>62287668
both can come into discussion, but the idea was that game used to be even more expensive than they are today yet people bitch about their free world 10k hours lifetime game selling for half what a super nintendo game used to sell
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>>62283119
I don't know what a SNES is (Nintendo consoles are for faggots), but I used to buy pirated PS1/PS2 games for $5 from some shady dude back in the day. Even back then, only retards would pay $50 for a video game. I see times haven't changed...
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>>62287668
Yes.
>today's colllector price is still LOWER than what people paid for when it came out brand new
He's still talking about how prices today are still lower when accounting for inflation, even for used collector games, compared to the price for games back in the day.
And he's right. A nintendo entertainment system with one game (Mario/Duck Hunt) adjusted for inflation cost $450.
A New 386 16 with 1mb of ram and a 20mb hard drive with 16 color graphics and midi sound card cost $8500, adjusted for inflation that's $25,000.
People bitching about prices for games these days really have no idea. Their idea of what things cost back in the day is skewed by a combination television where the latest technology was placed "in the common home" as a deliberate advertisement and a long run of (relatively) dramatically discounted prices from the late 90s until the late 10s.
Even today their expectations are ridiculous: "It shouldn't cost as much as when you had physical media because you can just download it!", like servers and connections that can provide fast 85gb video game downloads to millions of people around the world are not expensive themselves.
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>>62283119
People's real wages were also higher.
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>>62283119
I played that game on that console when I was a kid.
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>>62287673
>>62288182
This is true, video games are cheaper in real terms and even in nominal terms today. Even the "expensive" Switch games are not pricier than Street Fighter II in 1993. But the essential things of life are much more expensive (rent, food), which makes video games comparatively just as hard (or harder?) to afford. Hence the complaining.

The crybabies will also complain when a game is free though:
>waaaah I don’t get enough pulls to get my waifu in Genshin Impact, even though I spent $0 in five years of playing daily
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>>62288477
>>62288318
>>62288182
i had a friend at school who had a dedicated playroom room with every fucking super nes game as well as mega drive. Spoiled brat, parents probably were LOADED. That made me diamond at the time
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>>62283119
vidya felt way more expensive and special. buying a new vidya was an important life decision for many, you had to study that shit, read game magazine articles about vidya to weigh which to invest in, you had to save up money, potentially sell other vidya to frens for a bit of cash (like actual paper bills or even actual metal coins). back then when a neighbor kid got a new vidya it was an event and kids would gather to check it out or ask to borrow it someday. i invested all my money in vidya and bought a new one per month. don't get me started on buying a new console, that felt similar to buying a new fridge, something you needed to buy for basic survival because the old one was just not doing it anymore.
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>>62288623
>>62288647
Kek, back then you knew exactly how many games you had, and could recite the list of all your games like it’s a poem.

Each game was considered a rather big purchase and the games felt more "precious" in general. Also true with the PS1-era games.
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>>62283119
muh inflation is a cope shit tier non-argument.
snes and mega drive games were also printed on very expensive cartridges and game makers also had to pay a lot to retail.
now most sales are digital, so there is literally zero actual scarcity or logistics involved and the market is way bigger than it ever was.

basically kys
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>>62288229
>People's real wages were also higher.
No, they really weren't. The people making this claim base it on the price of Gold in 1970 and extrapolate it from there. (or they compare themselves to characters on 70s and 80s television) The price of Gold was artificially suppressed for 30 years by Bretton Woods. The median salary in 1987 was $30,000 a year. If you made above 60,000 you were upper middle class. Pic related was a middle class home and cost 120k new. People also like to pretend that there weren't oil shocks and 20% inflation in the 70s and 80s wiping out that majority of boomers' savings, or that a mortgage for such a home didn't come with a 16% interest rate.
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>>62288801
>there is literally zero actual scarcity or logistics involved
Servers and high speed connections are not zero logistics.
You don't even put two and two together. In the heady days of the wild west internet of the early 2000s, bandwidth was cheap, but it was also slow. People don't realize that because they demanded HD (and later 4K) streaming that infrastructure costs have skyrocketed so much that only the richest corporations can afford to provide that kind of service. You wonder why there's so much consolidation of media, why the major corporations have bought up so many smaller studios, why social media and video streaming is reduced to a handful of winners, it's because the bandwidth necessary to transmit the large amounts of data you're demanding is huge, and Bandwidth ain't actually cheap at all.
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>>62283119
games used to actually be good, and they provided you with hundreds of hours of entertainment. not the dog shit coming out today that you beat in 8 hrs and then never play again
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>>62283119
This game took me 4 days to beat as a kid so definitely not 100 hours.
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>>62289351
>Servers and high speed connections are not zero logistics.
retarded.
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>>62283119
In 1982-83 atari 2600 games were routine 30 bucks, that's over 100 inflation adjusted....
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>>62283119
>inflation adjusted that's 120$ today
wages arent inflation adjusted.
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>>62286669
>Kings Quest that lasts you a couple of hours max
Kings Quest actually had some difficult puzzles. Nobody beat it in a couple hours without cheats and/or walkthroughs
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>>62283119
Daily good were relatively cheaper, so it evened out or felt less bad
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>muh inflation
>>62289351
The developer would have gotten 7 dollars off of a 70 dollar 4MB SNES cartridge. Seven.
Today they get around 20. Adjust that for inflation and they've beaten inflation. About 15 bucks if you take cpi is what the cut in the snes era was worth.

Everything about digital distribution is cheaper than sticking roms into plastic boxes and shipping them internationally for them to sit in warehouses and later retail stores. And it could be even cheaper Steam's monopoly keeps things artificially high.
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>>62291154
>Steam
I've been buying off GOG lately, unfortunately they don't have everything.
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>>6228313
it's cause we literally moved on to zoomer older zoomer and very young millenial nostalgia. It's kind of crazy wathing people froth with nostalgia over the SNES only to forget it followed by frothing at even mid games on the N64. And now things are so warped people think gamecube is the best Nintendo console.
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You could get new Gamecubes and PS2's for like $60-$100 MSRP a few years after launch. Controllers were $20. A Switch 2 is $500+ with $90+ controllers, and the games are way worse. You are full of shit and a retard, OP.



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