the EU is very advanced. they’ve made great progress in fining apple, google, and meta.

>>62295550
>ve vil tax you vor 60% of all money und post income tax also
>vhat! du have left ze eu und everyzing ist americana kompaniern
>denn ve vil fine you!
>der kann be kein business im eu! die korporationes sind evil kapistalistieren!
>more taxes! more fines! only des government kann be responsible viv money!
why are there so few startups in europe?

>>62295540
Why does the eu even bother importing hoardes of brownoids? They dont need them to rig elections like in the US, unelected bureaucrats in brussels are just gonna run whatever globohomo plan they want.

>>62295540
socialism.
100% jewish

>>62295540
>blatant pedophilia right in front of a gay nigger with a white child

>>62295540
why are ve so cucked

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>>62295540
I want to burn that whole neighborhood down

>>62295540
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>>62295722
hello russian bots :)

>>62295756
(You)
Thats a low effort troll attempt young man

>>62295566
>60% of all money und post income tax also
I'm german and this isn't happening in our highest income bracket

>>62296162
45% income tax
20% health insurance
65% total already

on the remaining 35% you pay 18% vat and all the other crap like land tax, co2 tax for car...

less than 25% remains after all taxes

>>62295722
Do you like Hellsing AMVs too?

>>62296162
>german thinks not literally having 60% tax is a win
The fact you consider a hyperbolic cartoon strawman even comparable to reality says more than anything.

>>62295576
Punishment for the holocaust

>>62296321
>20% health insurance
Oh no, if only we had private insurance which has lower rates! Also if you're in the highest income bracket you often hit the Beitragsbemessungsgrenze, so the percentage isn't applied to all of your income.

>>62298810
>No goy you need to accept all the fud

>>62300744
>if only we had private insurance which has lower rates
Yes it unironically does, if you have a job.

>>62295540
They are the regulatory superpower.

Europe honestly seems like hell on earth with all the taxes and regulation. Is it even possible to ascend there or are you screwed if you want to reach a higher social class than the one you were born in?

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>>62296162
Your company pays tax hidden from your gross. Then you pay income, social security, etc. Then when you go and purchase anything you pay VAT. And then there are petrol taxes, etc. Look it up.
At least you can rest assured it's all for schools and hospitals
And highly seductive, assertive strangers (happy new year). And Ursula and her army of bureaucrats creating more paperwork to hinder our businesses uniquely. And GDPR. And closing nuclear power plants so you can import Russian gas. It's green gas, we're saving the planet. And the bundescommission on standardisation of localised inspection departments for non-detachable caps. And knives for refugees, they need to cut things. And so on.
But the total tax is like 56%, on the upside it's not 60%. Not even 59%.

>>62301680
Private insurance is only available with specific jobs, if you're self employed or earn more than ~65k pa.

>>62302433
>Your company pays tax hidden from your gross.
Yes, company taxes are nothing new. Also that's not my money so why would I care?
>Then you pay income,
Correct but still nowhere near 60%
>social security
Not a tax and still added to income not close to 60% also easily avoidable when you actually earn a notable amount.
>Then when you go and purchase anything you pay VAT.
Correct, and if it's for my business I can write it off.
>At least you can rest assured it's all for schools and hospitals
Depends on the tax. Petrol and Company taxes are normally mostly affecting the infrastructure.
>And highly seductive, assertive strangers (happy new year).
They'd be a problem no matter how low the taxes are.
>And Ursula and her army of bureaucrats creating more paperwork to hinder our businesses uniquely.
No, most EU regulations affect all companies which wish to participate in our markets. The same goes for other nations too, they also have laws.
>And GDPR.
Just don't sell PII and you're fine.
>And closing nuclear power plants so you can import Russian gas.
Could've easily been avoided if they stuck with coal or invested heavily into renewables (especially manufacturing). In order to cut costs they decided to do neither and now we're dependent on Russia but still decide to back Ukraine.
>bundescommission
Lern erstmal wie man Bundeskommission schreibt
>Hating on standards too
Cringe
>But the total tax is like 56%,
If you calculate it like a retard it might be, however, you're free to leave any time and take out a loan once you break your legs in your insurance-less third world country.

>>62302559
>Yes, company taxes are nothing new. Also that's not my money so why would I care?
Lmao euos really are retarded
>social security
>momey the government forcibly takes from you whether you want them to or not to pay for garbage
>Not a tax
Oh yeah if you play semantic games then taxes aren't taxes!

>>62295540
The rich european nations have been stuck at the same point in a country's lifecycle as former nations like the Spanish empire where they rested on their laurels and things eventually went from going amazingly to suddenly being stuck on a sharp decline spiral that most people don't know how to fix and, of the ones that do, most don't want to say it out loud because it goes against what their nation had stood for up to that point. Because of this, they have all reached the point where the powerful (that is, the older generations) just want to keep things the same out of fear till the day they die, making their democratic systems completely dysfunctional.
The poorer european nations are either eastern post-soviet states that were depopulated and sacrificed to fuel the obsolete german machinery (ukraine is next in the chopping block) or places like spain and italy which always have a ton of potential but are led by absolute retards and traitors 99% of the time because of their very flawed institutions and a culture that really doesn't gel well with democracy (it is no coincidence that all the golden eras of both were achieved under the rule or monarchs, warlords or merchant despots), and are now facing a demographic crisis even without much emigration.
On the individual level, the average european is justo too rich to become a desperate thirdie hyper capitalist grinder and too poor to escape the failing systems they are shackled to, so they go balls deep into "IT IS WHAT IT IS" territory while coping about how good life in europe is (though this is semi-true. It is amazing how shit life is in the usa for 90% of people despite how rich the upper half of the country is, and the rest of the first world is going to shit just as hard as Europe).
Eventually things will start collapsing and decisions will have to be taken, but for the time being it, truly, is what it is.

>>62302737
>The poorer european nations are either eastern post-soviet states that were depopulated and sacrificed to fuel the obsolete german machinery (ukraine is next in the chopping block
What do you mean ?

>>62295540
europe is being run by disgusting jews that love destroying the continent

>>62302768
most Eastern European countries lost between 20% to 40% of their population since the 1990s.

>>62302768
Most of eastern europe have lost from 10 to 30% population compared to their peak numbers, and those people that left were all at peak working age, often with higher education that their countries paid for. There are countries like Portugal that have as many citizens living in other EU countries as there are in Portugal.
Where did they go? Mainly the UK and Germany, two countries that were already innefective and stagnant 30 years ago, but who, through those mass migrations, managed to
A big part lf why germany and the uk seem to have fallen off a cliff from the 2010s onward is because they basically ran out of european migrants, so their overclocked aging economies went back to the state they should be at. It is also why they went so hard into non-european migration, only to discover that a well educated Bulgarian and Ngubu the shephard from Kenia are not equally productive immigrants.
Had the germans and brits not kept using the immigration crutch from decades, they would have realized way sooner that their economies were becoming uncompetitive and might have managed to find a solution before the average citizen age reached over 40 and people started voting just with retirement in mind, plus the eastern european nations would currently be at a way stronger position and not projected to be headed towards absolutely catastrophic population declines like bulgaria which is projected to lose another 20-30% population in the next 50 years.
Really most modern european problems started with those early huge waves of post-soviet migrants. The continent as a whole would be much richer if the western nstions invested like crazy on the east back when they had money instead of stripping the east off its future just to put some temporary bandaids on the western economies.
Now the western euros are broke and the ones buying what's left of the east are the Amerifats and Chinks.

>>623027
Where to?

>>62302825
>who, through those mass migrations, managed to
*to make it seem like they were still at the cutting edge of economic growth for a few more decades.

>>62295540
Because I don't feel like dedicating my life to working. In a society that is not comically skewed towards being rich like in USA accumulation of wealth ceases to be a matter of life and death.

Also, there's a lot of other issues, but that's my reason for not really caring that much. I have enough, I live a good life in yurop.