I don’t think people realize how much upside space actually has. You guys thought the semi run was a bull run? Just wait until the space industry takes off.
>>623041462 more decades until we go back to the moon! Trust the plan goyim
>>62304146There is literally nothing in spaceThat's why it's called space
>>62304197>reddit space
>>62304197>free real estate for as far as your eye can see (actually even further than that)>nothing to gain
>>62304146Yes when we are modular reusable astral deployments orbital data centers and hyperlink quantum communications the fifth industrial revolution will have arrived. It will be the golden bull run to make the others look like nothing.
>>62304244>duuuude we are going to colonize Jupiter's moons anyday now. Just a small 30 year flight and voilà it's donelay off the crack pipe
>>62304244Go live in the ocean, that's free and it's much more hospitable and accessible than space.Seriously think about it, we can't even make seasteading work and you think humans are going to live in fucking space? A zero gee vacuum bombarded with radioactive charged particles which dissolves our bones? Ridiculous fantasy. If you want to do something in space do it with robots.
>>62304146space exploration and colonization is a meme. all it takes is a rocket exploding with 30 tourists on board and it's gg. there is no way to fully prevent this from happening. modern society has no tolerance for loss like this and will ream any company that has this happen to them.
>>62304293it's retards that have watched Interstellar and other space films that have these insane views. Anybody with an IQ above 100 knows that space exploration is unfeasable, our solar system alone is gigantic and we're just a grain of sand on a beach. The nearest solar system to us is 30 light years away and that would take us roughly 40,000 years to reach. A complete meme
>>62304322I'd welcome space exploration if we did it with robots. We could get cool video footage of other planets in the solar system and maybe find if life formed anywhere else. But there's no way we are going to colonize space. It's just too hostile and inaccessible. We are tied to earth, we're part of the biosphere as much as any other animal.
>>62304340the Soviet expeditions to Venus were pretty cool but this doesn't happen anymore since the Cold War is over and nobody needs to flex this type of achievements. These type of missions costs tens of billions of dollars. For example the Venera probe lasted 2 minutes on the surface of Venus before melting. The Russians eventually realized it was a gigantic waste of money lol
The valuation of SpaceX is entirely based on AI speculation
>>62304375AI will unlock the stars for us and enable asteroid mining then colonization of the moons.
>>62304372We can do this considerably cheaper today though. Those were hand built probes. SpaceX has revolutionized the cost per mass to orbit, and the cost of small space probes can be brought down the same way with mass production.Why not have 1000 video linked probes going all over the solar system for the cost of putting some clowns on the moon?
>>62304146UFO and ROKT etfs
>>62304153>>62304259>>62304262>>62304294>>62304322Keep sleeping on it then, you won’t be able to come back to it in a few years and will be priced out for life as part of the ground walker underclass In reality space launches are becoming incredibly cheap. SpaceX, FLY, RKLB, China, Russia will all have reusable rockets and the option to refuel in space essentially uncapping how much mass we can move to anywhere in our solar system. Not only that but we won’t be dependent in slow gravity swings to get mass places and will be able to get more mass more places faster. This is the bottle neck and once broken will unlock an entire new industry. >Fiber optics made in space are much better>Top universities already experimenting with additive manufacturing of organs in space (the organ industry will be massive)>Pharmaceutical companies are already experimenting with drug manufacturing in space>Materials science and any product requiring specific crystallization or isomers will be massive in space>Data centers in space are a meme but if cost to orbit allows this might actually be the cheapest place with feee cooling and free energy>Communication industry in space already profitable without government subsidies >Earth imaging for agriculture and navigation of upcoming autonomous vehicles and robotics>Asteroid mining, again once mass to space and refueling becomes a thing there are literal asteroids made of gold, gold baggies will be btfo
>>62304392>Why not have 1000 video linked probes going all over the solar system I'd be in favour of itBut at the end of the day I don't trust Musk at all, there is just zero economic incentive for space exploration (don't listen to the retards talking about asteroid mining on /biz/)
>>62304390>for us>like my parents do for melmao who programs this retarded bot spam
>>62304146>Just wait until the space industry takes off.lol
>>62304322There is no space.
>>62304422>It is never worth while exploring new frontiers and there is never any wealth to be made doing so.We are nearing a point similar to the discovery of the new world but imagine if they went from sailing ships to steam in 5 years. We have discovered the potentials of space on paper and loaded the powedr keg and with the launch bottle neck disappearing we are soon going yo light fuse
>>62304649yeah and we're going to explore space with Lockheed and Martin's antigravitational UFOs? Lol
>>62304293The ocean? Hell how about Canada 100 miles north of the us border?
>>62304146What exactly are the enormous commercial possibilities of ovine aviation? Seriously: how will the space industry fix the housing shortage?
I think figuring out earth is more important. If people haven't solved stuff like housing and solar energy/electric, then being super prospective and speculative about space seems counterintuitive.If I can't run around and listen to music on my headphones without someone spitefully fucking up my wireless headphones. I'd never consider being in space with a spacesuit at the mercy of people who would be probably charging me for air, with easier to limit or hoard water supply.If you can use technology to cut off electric engines and disrupt Bluetooth technology, then why wouldn't people be doing the same in space?
>>62304146its the perfect vaporware.>dont need to deliver for decades>mind control the youth with talmudvision to be star whores cucks from birth>easier to deepfake than hire kubrick>proven business model by nasa: release pretty pictures every few years and they will give mo money fo dem programz
>>62304729>muh housing crisis There is no housing crisis. There are just people left behind by time and the economy refusing to move or believing that they are entitled to a penthouse in big city. >What industry?Refer here >>62304418
>>62304418>>Data centers in space are a meme but if cost to orbit allows this might actually be the cheapest place with feee cooling>free cooling>in spacegrug knows space cold so grug think free coolingliteral brainlet-tier logic
>>62304146Virgin Galactic, ticker: SPCE has to pay a really big bill. I wouldn't get too worried for them if you bought actual shares. They are under a 1 Billion valuation and could quickly revalue much higher, once the bill is paid. The rest of the sector is reeling from Blue Origin's explosion. That's part of the game.
>>62305000No vision, enjoy your consumer staples >>62305396Most obvious rug pull yet crypto bro retail still feel for it
>>62304322If your mind immediately goes to other stars when you think of space exploration in the economical sense, you're retarded. Space mining can be profitable in our lifetimes, but they need to pour a shitton of money into it for 3 decades before we get anywhere. If Elon wasn't an autist and also the richest man on earth this would never happen. Now it actually might, but still a thousands ways for it to fail.
>>62304322We have the technology to travel at 50% the speed of light. If the military had continued their development of nuclear based propulsion, in layman's terms detonating nukes behind you and going real fast in space, the first group would litteraly be at the nearest start right now. Star travel is entirely within our grasp. Traveling is the easy part, all it takes is time. The only hard part is getting off the planet against gravity. And that hurdle dissapears the second we build our first real colony on the moon. From there, we will rapidly expand.
>>62304322>the nearest solar system is 30ly awaythese are the people fudding space
>>62305410>No visionHow do you think cooling things works?
>>62304197You are an amoebea with no imagination
>>62304418how can you larp as a goyim dealing in the real world, and not realize gold demand scales with fringe technological advancement? goofy ahh
>>62304375True, but this isn’t really about SpaceX on on its own. Also the AI component is a needed stepping stone for space, similar to how paypal was a stepping stone to Tesla
>>62304146What is there to do in space that I can't do on earth? Getting things into space is extremely expensive so I don't see it being long term feasible except for tourist/travel space flight at high costs.
>>62304146>Just waitFor?...................>underpants gnome meme required here
>>62304146Why'd they post the pic like its a pic for tinder or something lol>Ship, 40
>>62304418Vacuum is the ideal thermal insulator
The traditional space markets are: navigation, communication, observation, national prestige.Navigation is pretty much covered, with 4 GPS equivalents operational and probably a 5th one coming (India's). Annual launches to replenish these constellations are minimal.There's probably not much more money to make in space communication. SpaceX is already subsidizing Starlink terminals, indicating they expect demand to top out soon. Terrestrial networks already effectively cover the vast bulk of the communication market.Space observation still hasn't topped out. The DoD is going to buy more. For example, the DoD's new AMTI project. However, the observation market can probably not demand more than 100 Falcon 9 launches per year.National prestige can make some money, since the US doesn't want to let itself be one-upped by the commies. However, the bulk of the money is in making the bespoke payloads, not the launches.Proposed future space markets are: geostationary solar power, data centers, space weapons, asteroid mining.Geostationary solar power is losing its appeal due to new battery technology, since clouds and night time aren't as big problems for terrestrial solar as they used to be.Space data centers will have problems with high-energy radiation and maintenance access, which will increase costs compared to terrestrial data centers. Space data centers will also need to pack massive radiators for cooling.
>>62308704Asteroid mining won't be easy. Mining and processing in microgravity is probably going to be a pain. Large quantities of equipment need to be sent to high delta-v destinations. Maintenance will be a pain, since there will be no astronauts that far out. Unless you manage to find an asteroid that has a permanently shadowed crater in addition to good mineral content, the propellant needed to launch minerals to Earth will likely have to be shipped in from elsewhere. You have to do all this in a way that is cheaper than digging a hole in the ground on Earth.There could be a lot of money in space weapons. Space weapons, such as the space component of Golden Dome, could become an infinite money pit for the government. US launches space weapons, China launches counter-weapons, the US launches counter-counter-weapons, China launches counter-counter-counter-weapons, etc etc etc.
>>62306262Sci fi dreams don't necessarily make money
>>62308704>There's probably not much more money to make in space communication.Another problem with space communication is that the Chinese are intent on launching about 30,000 Starlink equivalent satellites (Qianfan/Guowang). China having an independent Starlink with strong global coverage is motivated by national security considerations, and national security alone will be enough to motivate the Chinese to fund this project. Once the satellites are up and orbiting the Earth, the marginal cost of extending service to a new area is essentially zero. So, there is a danger that the Chinese could potentially drive profits to zero, by offering service at almost zero cost other than the cost of the ground terminal, even if for no other reason than to fuck with the Americans.
>>62304146space is not an addressable marketthere are no customers on the moon
>>62304294boeing has survived multiple plane crashes, you want to know how, because they along with airbus are the only companies doing this, same with spacex v blue origin
>>62308771>boeing has survived multiple plane crashes, you want to know howbecause they're a defense contractor for the US government
>>62308771Air travel is extremely safe, because a lot of people would stop flying if it wasn't, even though there is a lot of utility in air travel.Very few people are going to risk their lives for vanity journeys to space that have little real utility.
>>62304146Whats the pitch? Space is going to earn a lot because what exactly?
>>62308794The pitch deck is Star Wars and Star Trek
>>62308769>there are no customers on the moonSounds like someone needs to put them there!
>>62308794>The organ market is already a multibillion dollar industry>We only have donations as supply and millions of people around the world are not able to get one>We have tried manufacturing organs on earth but its difficult. More complex structures collapse before fully growing or fabricated due to gravity >Many Universities have started for over a decade now looking into 3D printing organs from individualized cell lines. This works in space because microgravity prevents collapsingWhat do you think will happen once the mass to orbit bottle neck is addressed? Probably nothing because there is nothing in space. This is just one example.
>>62308714It's sci-reality not sci-fiction and it's happening right now.
>>62308880Then the anon you replied to wouldn't need to imagine anything, would he?
>>62305410Cooling stuff is muuuuch cheaper on earth. Just pump your cooling water through coils, while a fan blows air over it. Don't even need to use water.
>>62308842Is mass-to-orbit really the bottleneck for the space organ 3D printing industry, or is it the lack of fully functional space organ 3D printing technology?
>>62308928Its a problem of both currently how many successful tissue samples have already been produced in space. Wake recently made liver tissue and Eli Lilly and Red Wire have been working on heart tissue. Research is severely limited obviously by mass to orbit but again once this improves the growth and potential are exponential. This is just one use case example of space that is not muh tourism or muh nukes which brainlets seem to jump on immediately. These are valid industries for space but definitely not the ones with actual exponential growth possibilities. In my opinion the key industry for that will be manufacturing, we simply can’t make a lot of things on earth because of gravity. Organs are a big one but also drugs, optics, photonics, etc. https://rdw.com/newsroom/redwire-pioneering-biopharma-production-in-space-by-successfully-bioprinting-live-human-heart-tissue-and-delivering-second-batch-of-pil-box-pharmaceutical-crystal-experiments/
>>62308794A lot of commercial activity that you can’t get on earth. Don’t worry about it though, sounds like your IQ is too low it
>>62307809Have you considered trading options while doing coke in space?
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>>62304197What about all those golden astroids?
>>62304146Humanity cannot expand beyond our heliosphere
