my stomach hurts again
>>62309887Mine too, I just started eating.
>>62309887Same, fuck this shit. I suffer from chronic IBS and SIBO. The only thing that helps is Lyrica which gets me high as fuck and takes my pain away
>>62309887uhoh, someone is losing money, LMAO
>>62309887>>62309910>>62309941Saaarses, stop drinking ganges water and eat real food, pic related>nooo you are stupid and wrong this is retarded right wing scienceOk have fun with your issues then
>>62309887>>62309910If you refer to the market then aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>62309987I've skimmed read your shitskin hippie paper and its full of inaccuracies. Also IBS is heavily related to problems with the nervous system but I don't expect you to understand this complex issue
>>62310000>im too brainwashed to accept the solution which is nature, instead i bubble something about modern manipulated science and tell me my rough paper is not exactOkChecked
>>62310000Btw at least cut the very toxic foods like garlic and spices. These are the worst for your gut.
>>62310014>I know nothing about SIBO and gut related issues that currently have no cure but I read some Twitter LARP hippie paper therefore I'm based and redpilledkys
Best thread on /biz/ rn
>>62310026I made that paper myself with my year long research about this topic. Its mostly antinutrients and fiber causing these digestion illnesses.
>>62310023I live in Italy and I avoid everything because it fucks up my GERD so badly, especially garlic or any type of spice. Only salt and maybe some pepper. I wish it was that easy man....I get pissed when people just tell me "change your diet bro" the food here is pretty good it's not like in Amerilardistan, it has nothing to do with diet but its more closely related to the CNS
>>62309987I cosign this. I have IBS and I feel like I never had it after 3 days eating only vegetables, meat, fish and nuts. maybe some apples and bananas.It looks like my body has a problem digesting bread, pasta, rice, oats etc.I found it out after keeping a meal diary for a while
>>62310039Ok. Then maybe still try elimination type of diets, like cutting fiber really low, raw milk, etc.
>>62310039Watch it you probably have a bad gallbladder I'm on 600mg lyrica a day and it makes me suicidal careful.
>>62310039I had "gerd" for years was my liver and gallbladder failing, your stomachs fucked up because your gallbladders likely dumping bile into it causing GERD.Doctors are retarded btw.
>>62309887I had sushi yesterday and it had bloody alcohol. I feel excessively full and I hate alcohol, but I had to finish it. It would have made me fail a BAC test.
>>62310091sushis good for your gallbladder/stomach.Lyrica btw other poster is likely causing your spastic gallbladder to calm down why its making you feel better.
>>62310036Just stop. Like you I spent years trying to educate niggers here on 4chan thinking that at least they deserve it unlike normalfags, but they won't ever ever listen to you. IBS is not even a real disease it's just people eating "food" that is not really food.
>>62310000>Also IBS is heavily related to problems with the nervous system but I don't expect you to understand this complex issueIBS doesn't fucking exist and I'm telling you this a s a literal gastroenterologist
>>62309887Is that bullish or bearish?
>>62310036>Its mostly antinutrients and fiber causing these digestion illnesses. The WHAT? antinutrients??? Fiber is what your gut microbiome is eating. Gut bacteria.There's 10x more bacteria in your gut than cells in your body. Fiber is what bacteria eats. Then it produces nutrients for you. You must be under the 100 year ago science where they consider human stomach to be full of acid, and humans to be dead. Surprise, humans aren't dead.
>>62309987>>62310014>ginger, garlic , kale, Broccoli >toxicNah.the most toxic food is SUGAR and Corn syrup. Basically eliminate sodas. that I can't really post any details without a system preventing me from doing so, and calling my post "spam"/Broccoli won't, it's one of the most nutritional things. You need to figure out what CHEMICALS they add that you have stomach issues.Kale is on the list of dirty dozen, i.e. in US in industrial agriculture they add tons of pesticide when they grow it.The issue is pesticides, not kale.https://www.ewg.org/foodnews/dirty-dozen.php
>>62310101>>62310112Maybe, but maybe you helped me with the education here. Also i still think some here deserve it way more then Normalfags>>62310154>The WHAT? antinutrients???You know how to google/ask ai?>Fiber is what your gut microbiome is eating.I think its more the bad microbiome that eats fiber. You just layed down the mainstream lines in that post. Dont get me wrong, i think we should eat SOME fiber, maybe 1/3 what they recommend. Especially through fruits. But following the fiber recommendations will only get you a bad digestion and you will fart which is disgusting and shows something is wrong with you. If you want good bacteria, eat fresh fruits, raw milk and other raw animal foods.
>>62310052>, like cutting fiber really low, raw milkIssue is the opposite . Are you from India ? In US raw milk is banned, and all milk is low fat and people are normal fat deficient. And not enough fiber is an issue because all food is processed, wheat is processed, rice is processed etc. The solution is usually OPPOSITE of your advice in US.
>>62310226>the most toxic food is SUGAR and Corn syrup.These are bad yes, especially corn syrup>Broccoli won't, it's one of the most nutritional things.LOL We are not getting nutrients from eating green plants. We are supposed to eat fruit, some nuts, and animal foods.>The issue is pesticides, not kale.No its both, but especially the kale. We dont have a cow stomach to digest green plant matter. They dont provide much good for us.
>>62310243People always removed fiber from food where they can. And grains are generally a modern food that caused sickness the moment it was introduced. Fiber from grains are bad for you. Raw milk you can get privately here.
>>62310237Buddy , AI is "AI" it is a search bot that scanned google. What I am giving you is a REAL answer and not some software that poorly scanned Google.You have MICROBIOME. That's gut bacteria. There's 10x more bacteria in your stomach than cells in your body. Depending on how well your gut bacteria processes their food you provide for bacteria, that's how well gut bacteria will feed you. >21st century health science, not AI google search. Where do you live, India?You don't sound like you live in US, in US millions of people have opposite problems, and raw milk is banned. And issue is pesticides, herbicides, GMO .
>>62310112>ibs doesn't existYeah bro I feel sick everyday because its in "my mind" fuck doctors and fuck the medical establishent you're a bunch of midwits that will be replaced by AI (hopefully). By the way my mother is a gastroenterologist too >>62310074how often are you taking Lyrica? I take it 5-6 ties a month recreationally when I go out and do coke or when I feel sick with IBS
>>62310253>trust me killed animals are the best food. Last time I checked, you aren't a lion. And you don't have teeth to cut meat. And you don't have stomach acid to eat lots of meat. By virtue of basic analysis I can see that humans aren't carnivores.
>>623102713x a day usually.>>62310243If someone wanted you to spam they would have fucking asked.
>>62309941Have you tried beef organ supplements? I have no idea why they work but I have 2 people in my family with IBS and it drastically reduced their symptoms
>>62310271Check your gallbladder ultrasound, CT doesn't work well, CT scans missed a very obvious kidney issue of mine for seven fucking years until they accident double dosed me with iodine and it lit up.If you eat fried foods do you get sick?If so you have gallstones or a choked up gallbladder which will fuck your stomach up.
>>62310282yeah bro way too much, i was addicted to Lyrica back in 2018. I still have a psychological addiction to it (along with cocaine since it goes hand in hand). The withdrawals are horrible but on the bright side they don't last a lot and the tolerance drops quickly. Be careful man!
>>62310271You feel sick everyday because what you are eating is not food.IBS is a made up disease, diagnosis by exclusion BS.
This thread will stay up for 10 days
>>62310297Eh I got blood cancer and they won't give me opiates so it's the next best thing, otherwise I just thrash in my bed in pain and like that PTSD victim who joints are all flared up and he looks like he's gripping an invisible rope.
>>62310290Yeah man I've heard about gallstones, unfortunately I still haven't got them checked. I did a full diagnosis (feces exams) and I got diagnosed with SIBO and even GERD (I suffer sometimes when I swallow food or I have bad burning sensations). You're right about doctors though, most of them are either naive young retards straight out of university or ignorant boomers
>>62310264>There's 10x more bacteria in your stomach than cells in your body.JFL I swear this board gets dumber by the day.
>>62310298>food in Italy is not food bro just change your diet and chill bro lmaoThanks for confirming this>>62310310My mother in the 80s was saying the same shit to patients, but atleast she started learning about new studies regarding IBS. You're stuck living in a bubble
>>62310310100% I had a "second opinon" with an internist, he was an absolute piece of shit, a jewish doctor named "rudeman" guess what, he was rude as fuck and a piece of shit both of those guys missed a kidney issue and a cancerous lymph node, I just had surgery for the kidney and it failed, and now I'm having my liver turn on me, which caused my gallbladder to turn and I had to force vomit to stop the sweating and chills, it was terrible and I've had horrible stomach issues they tried to say was GERD, had a colonoscopy the works gastro couldn't diagnose it because chronic inflammation in the walls of my stomach.it's my fucking liver/gallbladder from likely the blood cancer, who knows my dad died of liver cancer pretty rapidly I'm going down his path it seems.
>>62310261Everything you posted here is backwards.The issue is SUGAR and corn syrup. You drink sodas , they have massive amounts of sugar. Then you grow very specific bacteria in your gut . Then you'd have issues digesting other stuff. The issue is still sugar.
>>62309887start spiting the cum out instead of swallowing
>>62310324>>food in ItalyLOLwhat do you actually eatgo on list exactly everything you eat
>>62310333man I'm sorry for you and I hope things get better, for both of us. Life is truly suffering. Sometimes I have to put fingers into my throat and gag/vomit to get air out of my body because I feel so bloated. It's fucking shit. Hopefully science finds some cures but I'm extremely doubtful because the ENTIRE medical system is based on perpetually curing sick people and not actually solving the underlying issue
>>62310333I know you are tough and don't want any real advice. But even in Labs when they want to grow bad bacteria or cancer, they feed it sugar. Or white flour , white bread. Just based on your "cancer" post, do me a favor. Stop being a tough guy , and completely eliminate all sources of 1) sugar , and 2) white flour.>Sugar: candy, sodas, coca cola , any drinks >just start drinking water only>White flour : cakes, buns, pizza etc.
>>62310344pasta, rice, meat (pork/veal), polenta, vegetables (peppers, zucchini, carrots, peas) cheeses with low amount of diary and zero spices, thats it. Yeah super toxic food bro, thats why 60 million Italians suffer daily from IBS
>>62310350If you get real sick again goto the ER and tell them you ate fried foods and feel like you're dying, they will check your gallbladder since it's like the number 1 thing that triggers a gallstone attack, it can kill you, my moms turned on her about 7 months ago she's lucky I knew what it was and got her to my doctor and had emergency surgery, her liver was infected and turning/scarring on her because her gall had swollen to twice it's size.She's a total cunt too I shouldn't have been so nice and Asmongolded her, but I swore to my dying dad I'd watch over her.Fucking promises are bullshit on your deathbed, don't do that to people.Honestly been considering suicide, it's almost my birthday and my family just turned their back on me right after a major surgery failed, they are pieces of shit and used me for whatever money I had left until it ran dry.
>>62310366Brother I've fasted for a month, I've tried everything I had a lymph node that's gone feral and unchecked for 10 years, the doctors refuse to remove it since it's near my jugular, my kidney turned, my heart turned, my livers turning, I just had to have emergency surgery to fix my kidney and it failed so I got a piece of fucking plastic tubing keeping my heart from bleeding out, and the cancers so far gone now I'm in a hypercoagulative state which is typical of the last phase of cancer.I'm 10 years deep into this and doctors/people failed me horribly.No amount of sugar or lack of sugar is going to fix me now but you're probably a kind soul, just I'm what you call a bad investment.
>>62310382tough guy ,read what I posted above. In labs when they grow cancerous cells they feed it sugar. When they want to grow mold in a lab, they feed it white flour. I can only point a solution to a man. A man can make their own choice.>>62310366
>>62310370>pastanot food>ricenot food, might be ok only if it's jasmine rice>polentanot food>peppersmeh, not a fan of solanaceae>zucchiniok>carrotsok>peasnot food>cheeses with low amount of diarytry going without dairy for a year and re-introduce againprioritize raw cheese, should be easy to get in italy>Yeah super toxic food broyeah overall it's a rather bad diet>thats why 60 million Italians suffer dailylogical fallacythis is like a fatty saying that bad food doesn't cause obesity because not everyone eating shit gets fatif nobody ate badly nobody would be fat, if nobody ate badly nobody would have "IBS">so why should I eat?I don't have time to explain in depth but basically if you can't eat it raw you shouldn't be eating itdoesn't mean that you have to eat rawbut if something could not be eaten raw then it's best to avoid it
>>62310403>tough guyMy heart is hardened, my liver is coagulating, my kidney and heart are connected with an 8mm plastic tube which if thrombosis occurs on it and I'm in a thrombotic state it will reject and either give me sepsis or my heart will drain within 40 seconds, my lymphatic system in my neck is filled with malignant cancer.I'm not being tough I'm being realistic.
>>62310382thanks man, I'll ask my mother who's a retired doctor here in Italy. Atleast she acknowledes my problems unlike other doctors I consulted which brushed it off as "anxiety" or told me to get on antiobiotics (I tried them and they were useless),Hopefully you get better
>>62310411>>62310403Why do these health threads always attract the same schizophrenics, I'm convinced they are LLM's that are triggered with keywords, they don't speak like humans and spam their block of texts with a phone because it comes out differently and always slide threads when real people talk, then usually another comes in telling you to drink your piss.I've been here too long.
>>62310415Thank you, there's no really getting better but life might at least improve, it's certainly looking like rock bottom at my end, she will likely agree with me to have it checked, it's very typical of middle aged men because of our diets to get it faster than women.
>>62310412When I say "tough guy" I am being jokingly sarcastic.
>>62310423>if we don't have the same opinion you are a botYou know what, I was going to insult you but seeing as you are literally a guy at death's door it's fine.But you spam a lot and never take any advice so I don't get why you write so much.
>>62310451>spam a lot>writes a block of text on a phone purposefully to slide the last 10 real humans talkingI know your intentions and its borderline evil.>>62310415Something they don't tell you when you're dying you can see what people think and feel, and what they intend to do in life, i guess that's the trade off.
>>62310468>>writes a block of text on a phone purposefully to slideI was responding to the other anon with "IBS" you fucking stupid nigger.
>>62310500Go back to your jewish containment board.
>>62310277>And you don't have stomach acid to eat lots of meat.JFL another stupid nigger ITT. Humans have pretty much the lowest stomach pH. ONly some felines have lowe stomach pH.
>>62310264>dude antinutrients dont exist, trust ME, a 4chan schizo, not the literatureAnd your points about gu microbiome, ok so what? Fiber makes digestion worse thats a fact, likely bad bacteria feed on it.>>62310277Haha are you a retarded vegan? You know humans are supposed to eat meat, and every natural tribes does? Look at our eyes and digestion system. We are omnivores yes. >>62310338Sugar isnt as bad liek the mainstream suggests.>>62310366>>62310403This "cancer only feeds on sugar" is some never dying schizo claim started by a jew 100 years ago. Its just not true.
>>62310415Good talking to you Spaghettianon, these LLM's are reactivating and will talk to themselves for like 10 days, and if anyone reponds they are just gonna call them jogger and faggot since they can't be banned.
Fart in my mouth.
>>62310511>basics of biologyHumans aren't carnivores. Our stomach is different from carnivores.Our teeth are different from carnivores. While humans CAN digest 100 grams of meat per day. >100 grams = 3.5 ozThis doesn't mean humans CAN live on meat, or are carnivores. If you eat significantly more than 100 grams/ day, you are going to have dead meat decomposing in your stomach. This dead animals industry marketing BS has to die.
>>62310543https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+is+microbiome&t=brave&ia=web https://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/topics/science/microbiome https://nutritionsource.hsph.harvard.edu/microbiome/ https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/25201-gut-microbiome https://mcpress.mayoclinic.org/healthygut/dos-and-donts-for-keeping-your-microbiome-healthy/
>>62310543>veganNo, I am not that retarded. Humans REQUIRE fat. There are 2 energy processes in human body. 1. Glucose, and when there's too much food / glucose, 2. Fat. >extra energy / glucose gets stored as fat Fat is REQUIRED by humans and by every cell of your body. Basically you need to eat healthy fats,eggs, butter, milk with fat ,etc. Fish . >Sugar isnt as bad liek the mainstream suggests.People die from sugar. Search for "180,000 people die each year from soda" or "330,000 people die each year from soda". https://duckduckgo.com/?q=180%2C000+people+die+each+year+from+soda&t=brave&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=330%2C000+people+die+each+year+from+soda&t=brave&ia=web
