The richest 1% of Americans extracted $350,000 from each working adult.
>>62354961With communism, the mentally ill in charge would change, but they'd still extract your life blood.You all were trained to think of communism as the only alternative when this topic comes up.
>his co founder supported the far right in america>but this guy says they stopped it in europe??
>>62354983The alternative to runaway robber baron capitalism isn't exclusively Bolshevik Soviet communism. Your argument is 100 years old and very tired. FDR had a workable answer in 1933.
>>62354994They work to hoard wealth & control. Ideology is just a mind control tool.
>>62354983That's why natinal socialism was developed. It's the workong alternative to communism. Best of both worlds.
>>62354994european far right means nationalists who want ethnostatesthe american far right doesn't exist meaningfully because third parties can't go from 1% to 40% of the vote here and win in a system where they get 60% of the seats in a split election. You just get boomers screaming "yeah boy, my no-good 44yo son is being a baby and doesn't want to join the navy to fight i-ran, says he makes more as a plumber than he would make defending israel.... why back when I was his age in the 80s I was married 10 years already and worked in an office and owned two houses on a single income, that loser rents a house with his girlfriend!"
>>62354961stop giving them your money then
>>62355000That's the answer one gets every time, so I did the inb4. Personally, I want to see society level denial of power over others, personal accountability for everyone. No politburo, no pyramid corporations, no politicians. The last 200 years have brought extreme capability, yet they aren't used to build a society capable of handling it. All this capability is in the hands of the few mentally ill hoarders, who almost destroyed the world dozens of times with simple, too big bombs. Now they got ecosystems of self-improving software & designer organisms. Interesting times.
>>62355024I cannot stop, the economic traps are laid out. Example: If I don't use Microsoft products in Europe, I am severely harmed to compete in many industries. Marketing + lobbyism beats a good product, so if society allows centralized power, a behemoth full of slack and shitty product emerges and captures much of the market.
>>62354961Nuke every jew(ticker:satan)!
>>62355012It seems they were ran by a pyramid power scheme, which lead to catastrophe, because the most 1D brained psychos won the competition for power they had. The problem is that the people who can ignore the consequences best win. Such a system keeps going when it's just about beetles on a meadow, but this pattern of unlimited power aggregation is not compatible with survival of a planet when you got dozens of doomsday weapons.
What happened their super AI targeting that was supposed to completely destroy Iran's capacity to fight?
>>62355098Yes
>>62355098Flock cameras were supposed to stop crime yet people are still shoplifting tomatoes from Trader Joe's.
>>62355000FDR only came up with that answer because of the threat of communism. Absent that threat we get gilded age capitalism, every time. I cannot repeat this to people enough: no communism, no new deal, no welfare state, no compromises. CEOs and bankers go on public record today saying wages can't rise, rise too fast or too much, and that the working class has an attitude problem and think their opinions matter. Fuck these people, only the specter of a noose brought them to the table.
>>62355115I think he wanted the Depression to end more than he feared communism. The Socialists never broke 12% in an election and that was in 1912, not during the Depression. Socialist agitation in the USA was pretty much a non-issue for its entire history, despite the awful working conditions of 20th century industry. American laborers just thugged that shit out.
>>62355105They are good at keeping those safe who do shady business against the interests of many.
>>62355119The new deal was a compromise that brought elements of the socialist movement into the federal government, but yes, more generally it was supposed to help people out of the mire of the worst crash in history. The government had to act or they wouldn't be able to curb the influence of fascist or communist movements. The red scare reversed much of this, however, once things had improved; ww2 was great for American industry. Socialist agitation was not a non-issue before the 1930s. The leader of the socialist party during the 1910s & early 20s, Eugene Debs, was imprisoned multiple times. He was out of the picture by the time of the new deal. The IWW was also fought tooth and nail.
>>62355115This meme style is funny.
>>62355012>govt owned by the corporations We have that now dumbassHitler was funded by the same bankers who funded Bolsheviks and FDR you dumb faggot
>>62355141It seems organizing for a better balance of power became much harder since then, Occupy learned that, now we got all these funny digital surveillance profiling services. I wonder what my metrics are currently, if I wasn't retired, I probably wouldn't be able to get VC or a job in the US, my personal device use is just too hateful.
>>62355141 >The leader of the socialist party during the 1910s & early 20s, Eugene Debs, was imprisoned multiple times. Bolshevism didn't have a great reputation from day 1. "Gibs me dat for free" didn't have a lot of appeal outside of the most destitute West Virginian coal miners or Pullman Porters in Illinois. It was not a popular movement, and the few supporters it had were exceedingly violent and got into trouble once they started interfering with the Postal Service and ambulances.
>>62355160>Gibs me dat for freeBut it's back now, they are bamboozling the people with it. Universal high income and all. Will work out as expected, of course.
>>62355160Debs still got like a million votes while he was serving time in the 20s for protesting US involvement in ww1. Maybe if he could have actually campaigned he would have gotten more. Land of the free btw
>>62355181Maybe today, a socialist could get TWO million votes! And that's after the anal rape of COVID austerity and inflation.
>>62355188If they get two million votes and another candidate is thrown in jail for being a filthy commie, we might actually see some attempt at reform. Not much chance of it happening otherwise
european far right never had such a momentum, not even in the 1930's
>>62355361It doesn't even matter whether it's a marketing lie or not, they want to do this, and the totalitarian digital world let's them do it. It will work even if they are very stupid, it's just too easy to do if you sit close to the money printer. Just look at the recent Kentucky election scandal. It only gets easier.
>>62355361I wonder why. They murder far right leaders while forcing everyone to look at asmongolds beady eyes all over the internet.
Right wing in Europe is mostly bought by Russia anyway, same as some segments of the left, like the Greens.Throw out all of those fake bought and sold parties AND immigrants too.
>>62355361It was just internet memes of the time and the russian invasion of ukraine killed all momentum because it just showed that everyone thinking ”my country’s interests to front” will just lead to a world war again.
>>62355154Almost ten years i've been saying this, and the nazincels still don't get it.
>>62354961The problem is not the 1%, it's the 90% of sheep in human form, that let them do it, with no complains. I feel that there is an almost infinite number of wage slaves in the world, that would be ok to have their labor exploited, for many decades to come. And the (((elites))) can count on them, and import browns totally submitted to waging, for the decades to come. In a few centuries, this mode of production will be seen as horrible, inhuman, crazy accumulation of wealth extracted. But until, it will keep going like that for a long time.
>>62354961They can’t tax what I don’t have.
