Especially with the astronomical levels of corruption happening with big corpo lobbies, asshole whales and the executive branch. Don't even get me started with the brazen corruption involving the crypto and oil markets.Blame the top 1% for inflation being as sticky as it's been. They're the ones constantly spending their money on stuff and trips and all of that shit, creating the mirage facade zombie economy as a result.
>>62366814Stop being poor.
>>62366815a poor person wrote this post.
Socialism means the top .01 controls the country and everyone else gets food rations. .
Salty no-SpaceX-ers itt lol.
>>62366838Only true beneficiaries of SpaceX are current and former employees who got a fuckload of shares pre-IPO. Most of them turned into overnight millionaires. Do you really think your 3 shares will make you rich when giga-whales everywhere are about to dump all over your head?
>>62366849Salty.
>>62366837Scandis aren't complaining. In fact, they laugh at us.
>>62366814That's funny, because I've realized every socialist (left or right wing), is just a mentally ill loser, or a power hungry sociopath that knows how to manipulate mentally ill losers.
>>62366873how much do you make a year?
>>62366883Why would it matter? You're going to give a retarded socialist critique regardless of the answer.
>>62366862They're third-way social democracies for the most part
>>62366814same bro but bootlicking niggers on this site will asslick billionaires for some reasoncommunism is the answer
>>62366927Assmad commie shitskin lol.
American capitalism attempts to work by instutionalizing corruption and bribery as a feature of the system to be made efficient rather than a failure of the system. This is rather than just fix the fucking problem I think, and ultimately just as poor a system as the ones that have failed before it and is propped up by the unfettered consumption of resources that will in the long run lead to a collapse of meaningful societies.
Same, wealth has become too accumulated at the top and is stuck there.>b-but it always has been!Not this level of skewed, no.
>>62366837Exactly, socialism always leads to stagnation and death.>>62366862Their economies have stagnated and countries have been run over by niggers. They will collapse in the next few years while they work endlessly and taxes take all their money away.
>>62366814Communism out here selling dreams like a busted dude promising everybody a mansion while he stealing the fridge out the kitchen. Every single time they talk about “everybody equal,” somehow the regular people end up broke, hungry, standing in lines for bread while the top bosses chilling fat behind locked gates acting like kings.They be saying, “share everything,” but what it really mean is: “you own nothing, the government own YOU.” Wanna speak your mind? Nah. Wanna worship freely? Nah. Wanna disagree? Congratulations, now you suspicious. Whole system move like a control freak ex that gotta monitor every little thing you do.And the economy? Absolute clown show. Folks working hard just to get empty shelves and busted apartments while propaganda posters smiling harder than the actual citizens. History got receipts too — censorship, secret police, people disappearing, leaders acting untouchable while preaching “for the people” every five minutes.That’s the wild part about communism: it start sounding like a superhero speech and end looking like a prison with extra paperwork. They promise equality, then everybody equally miserable except the dudes running the show.At some point you gotta ask: if the system so perfect, why people always trying to escape it instead of rushing in?
>>62366915Yeah, this seems like such an obvious answer. Capitalism is a good economic model, but not everything should be subject to supply/demand principles. Major industries like agriculture and energy are already subsidized. There are plenty of other basics to keep people productive members of society, even if that means they’re just spending money instead of dying on the street. Capitalism runs on consumption, the more people who have the ability to consume the better.Subsidizing shit isn’t communism or socialism, it’s just trying to give your citizens SOMETHING back for all the fucking taxes
>>62366971The only reason why the wealth inequality is so high is because of social welfare creating inflation that props up the assets of the rich. If we just went back to gold standard, even working class men would be wealthy!
Why are there no checks and balances in capitalism? or a way to fairly reset/rebalance the system to stop massive monopolies and corruption decimating the system?
>>62366982All socialism is bad.
>>62366997This dog is well-trained for sure
>>62366902why won't you answer this question?>>62366954>>62366981>>62366997how much do you make a year? i make around $150k depending on bonus payout.
>>62366814>They're the ones constantly spending their money on stuff and trips and all of that shit, creating the mirage facade zombie economy as a result.Thats literally NOT fake and facade. Thats a return to 1900 levels of luxury economy. Back then wealth inequlity was also as big. But its literally the logic of economy that this is normal.
>>62367101It's logic that workers won't accept it and will radicalise against capital more and more
>>62366814Btw the logic doesnt have to be socialism aka more state. It also can be less state, the state then doesnt protect such large ownerships anymore and the people can battle it out. In our natural home, the forest, there is neighter state nor wealth inequality. Its the strongest who wins.
>>62367108Yes but that works long/mid termn´ as seen in the 19th century. But if that doesnt happen, the luxuury economy where most work for few who have all money is not "mirage facade zombie economy", its actually 100% working.
>>62367120Well I went from nihilism to Marxism-Leninism in the last few weeks myselfNo more bullshit, no CIA op fake woke left, it's time for open class warfare. Put fear in the hearts of the exploiter classeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56Zozkh9ke4
>>62366902>>62366954>>62366981>>62366997curious how they never respond to this. (i consider myself working class.) god only knows how poor these beings are, and yet how they worship capitalism.
>>62366997If govt use of taxes too the benefit of people is socialism to you, you must be an anarcho-capitalist.And in that case, your retardation is beyond my patience.
>>62366989It would make the stock market and crypto even less relevant. Which I’m personally fine with, but i don’t think that would solve any current problem. There is more to it than that.
>>62366971Cope bitch
>>62367157A bitch is a female dog, youve been trained to defend your slavers without rewards for the effort. Who is the dog?
>>62366982> it’s just trying to give your citizens SOMETHING back for all the fucking taxes. The bottom 60% don’t contribute to taxes. How about you? I bet you get a tax refund during tax time too lol. Rich people literally pre-pay a big tax bill, brokie.
>>62366862Scandinavia only works because they don't have "poor" people
>>62367172Americans terribly overrate Scandinavia for some reason. They also seem to think my country (Netherlands) is some sort of paradise, well it isn't. We are exploited and keep dependent and no matter how much you work you'll never rise above the median that you can basically reach on welfare alone as well
>>62367157>>62367167how much do you make a year?
>>62367181I don’t work. My family is well off.
>>62367183I don't work either, I'm on disability, I live in a giant government provided house with 3 bedrooms by myself, I drive an Audi, I still hate this system
>>62367183what's that mean? you're a NEET and your parents make $70k? you're clearly some sort of a white nigger at best -- why else would you be on a dead shitcoin board?
>>62367181You DO know the bottom 70% get tax refunds right?And according to statistics, the top 10% or top 1% pay 40% of the taxes, used to be 50%. And bottom 50% pay none I think. Not saying you’re poor but literally 70% of Americans literally don’t contribute much.
>>62367193that is a consequence of wealth inequality.
>>62367190$70k. What?You’re confusing me for another anon. >>62367189You have no networth or assets, that’s why. You live in government housing, you are literally cattle class. Obviously you hate the system.
>>62367200I have like 40k and used to be a crypto millionaire. I'm fully allowed to make and have as much money from capital gains as I can.Still fucking hate the system and the hoarders and corrupt fucks and scammers on top
>>62367195So? No such thing as “wealth inequality.”You might as well say “there are winners and losers.” >>62367190Bro what is with your projection. Average salary in my city is 65k and my dad been calling everyone poor for over 20 years. I didn’t know why even though I have been investing for over a decade. Then 2 months ago, I googled the average salary and went 0.O
>>62366814You are fully economically retarded. No wonder you’re poor as hell. You want the rich to stop spending? You’ll lose your job cucktard.
>>62367205>hoardersYou wouldn’t say shit if you had a hoard. You might as well say you hate the rich. You are a loser and you even mentioned your audi lmaoo
>>62367205And my welfare program has been closed to new entries for almost decades, I'm a literal gibsmedat aristocrat kekBut this alone doesn't provide me with satisfactionWhen I worked I was exploited and barely made more. This leisurely life is lonely and without meaning. I am sickened at what I see in elite circles and they openly talk these daysEven with a million dollars I'm closer to the proletariat than I'd ever be to the haute bourgeoisie because a million is nothing anyway, yet it's impossible to make working in this country.
>SAAAAR YOU HAVE 100 YEARS BENCHOD BLOODY POOR YOU AGREE YES Amazing how even in a completely unrelated thread you manage to try and shoehorn in your shitty talking points.
>>62367209I am literally doing better than the average person my age in material senses, I know how to exploit the system to the fullest, I still want to abolish it and replace it with something better that also gives me more and something to live for
>>62367190I honestly never knew how poor 90% of people were until a few months ago. I thought the average salary of LA would be 200k even with the high salaries bringing the average up. Average salary in even fucking LA is $70k. I make well over $70k doing nothing but you saying “70k” means I already average in fucking LA, man. It is fucking crazy how far behind everyone is.
>>62367200you didn't answer the question or address my concerns. also it's "net worth" not "networth." this but being auto corrected leads me to believe I'm talking to a dirty, stinky, poor NEET on a desktop or laptop.
>>62367207>>62367222you don't work due to immense family wealth -- but you're actively investing? this LARP fell apart very quickly, undoubtedly due to an inferior and uneducated mind.
>>62367225Lmao at your cope. Not everyone is born working class. When i think of “neet” I think of a rich person using money to make more money. When you think of neet, you think of a “ dirty, stinky, poor” person. This already shows the different thinking of someone in the upper arm of the k vs the bottom arm of the k.
>>62367228Bro, I don’t work. Stop trying to bring me down to your level. Is gaming working? Lmao. Is gambling working? People that don’t work don’t work. Fucking crabs in a bucket. You want me down to level lmao.
>>62367228Yeah, it is only larp cause you’re poor. But anyways, only poor people bitch about taxes. Rich people don’t bitch about it cause they make a lot. However, rich people pay more taxes than poor people but only poor people bitch about it while getting tax refunds and as a group, contribute very little.
>>62367232>>62367236>>62367240triple reply by a fat stinking teenage NEET beaner who lives in the working class suburbs of los angeles. keep telling inane lies and worshipping capitalism, it will surely fix your disastrous life
>>62367228Posts like yours is why I love rubbing it in brokie’s faces. Have some self-awareness. Look at the stuff you saying to me>dirty>poor>larp>uneducated>stinky>70kAll these insults cause I said I dont need to work. All these insults yet you’re the one who is bitching about the rich.
>>62367249hi OCPD namenigger
>>62367248Keep it coming lmao. I love this. Post like yours is why I love rubbing it in brokies faces. People view their own surroundings as the norm. I never even think of suburbs. Keep seething bro. The wealth gap keeps growing and each month, new data shows how bad everyone is doing. Haha.
>>62367249>>62367251how many of the replies in this thread are you talking to yourself on the leto furfag residential vpn service?
>>62367220You’re exploiting “the system” yet you’re living like a slave cattle lmao. You’re not even upper arm of the k
>>62367265notice how the namefagging pederast never responds to these posts>>62367259
>>62367217Every person and their family had 100 years to get rich. If you’re not rich, your entire family failed after 2-3 generations in the greatest most economic times ever. This thread is like that twitter screenshot of the 52 year old loser who has no savings or retirement.
>>62367265yeah well sorry for not being born into the silver spoon upper class or having some ridiculous US tier salaries available
>>62367271Yeah yeah yeah. Whatever. Statistics don’t lie. 10% have of Americans have 1m. 2.5% have 1m excluding a house. Bottom 70% don’t pay much in taxes and don’t contribute much or any as a group. Average salary in America’s most famous city is 70k.
>>62367280That’s not the problem. The people is you talking shit about “the silver spoon upper class or those having some ridiculous US tier salaries available.”Like you are mad cause you’re not in that group and you’re talking shit about them. Do you hear yourself? This crab in bucket mentality.
>>62367280Being poor isn’t a problem, everyone is poor. Being poor is normal. Being rich is abnormal. But not liking the abnormal because you also wish you were abnormal is loser mentality.
>>62367280You need some self awareness. Go browse /antiwork. You sound like those people.
>>62367280you're responding to a mentally ill NEET tranny who has been trolling biz with the same schtick for months on end, 12+ hours a day. if there's still a biz archive, look him up as namenigger "OCPD."
>>62367280>>62367334OCPD namenigger changes IDs at will because he uses a residential VPN shitposting front end that is hosted and administered by a pedophile who nameniggers as "leto". OCPD is likely a pedophile himself.
>>62366814> yap yap yapAll commies must hang
>>62366814The fact that so many people will emotionally attack you OP, but not actually explain why you are wrong or talk logically just shows how effective their propaganda is. Boot lickers will cry at the thought of a rich person having to spend money, even though the rich will spend the money gladly on themselves, the rich when confronted with social responsibility and the idea of spending a single cent on anyone but themselves causes them so much immense pain that they have brain washed millions into feeling sympathetic pain. Its amazing the golem sheeple in this thread who lash out at the idea of making society better for them.
>>62367349why do u simp for billionaires that wanna watch u cannibalize ur mother for their entertainment broplease i dont get it
>>62366849why didn't you work at spacex then? if communism is so great move to cuba or china nigger
>>62367349Brokies too. The bottom 90% keep falling farther and farther behind. Listen to that dumb brokie, he literally brought up his vehicle as a status symbol I wonder if it is well maintained lol. Cause shit isn’t cheap per se.I spent 5k on my vehicle last month.
>>62367209Money is only useful when in motion.Hoarding money defeats the point of money.The rich are retards who only care about themselves and are clearly not satisfied. Giving them a raise will never satisfy them. They will forever be wanting.The solution to an addiction is not more of the substance, But to quit cold turkey.It is not enough to tax a billionaire, they must be made completely peniless to save them from themselves. Otherwise they will just lead the entire world to ruin just so they can see some digital ones and zeros go up.sThe rich are fucking retards. I have utter contempt for them.
>>62367369OCPD namenigger post your home address
>>62367361Cause he is doing well or very well. You just need past a certain level and you’re wealthy. You don’t need to be a billionaire.
>>62367368If socialism is so bad why is America bringing over so many people with a commie education?
>>62367376You’re poor. I don’t mind billionaires. I am 40 and never had to work a day in my life.
>>62367369>Brokies too.No, they're fine. That's a temporary state that you're in, that you can pull yourself out of.All commies though, must hang.
>>62367376> Hoarding money defeats the point of money.Nooooooo they must do what benefits meeeee reeeeeeeeeLMAO
>>62367394> That's a temporary state that you're in, that you can pull yourself out of.K shaped economy. Permanent underclas. Top 10% and bottom 90% keeps growing wider gap.
>>62366837Because America doesn't have an oligarch problem, and there is no problem with Americans being able to afford nothing whilst tax dollars go to bomb Palestine. Dumb goy.
>>62367376surely if you were rich you'd be better right? tell us your grand plans to improve society.>>62367386go visit one of those countries and see for yourself, you'll realize everyone in the US having a car and access to basic shit at walmart is actually pretty fucking great compared to the poverty of other countries. you guys want a luxury lifestyle but don't want to put in any work for it
>>62367387You don't mind bilionaires because you are lazy and slothful. you admit it yourself. You probably idolize their lifestyle. The fact that you think its okay to not contribute to society at all is just symptom of the issue. The American Dream is to be a Parasite. >>62367397SO says the billionaire as he gets bailed out with public money, and then refuses to pay taxes.
>>62367397>>62367387>>62367384>>62367369>>62367404Fuck off OPCD jew
>>62367414Also seriously what does socialism even mean? It's bad socialism when it goes to egalitarian social programs, but good socialism when we blank check the pentagon every year...
>>62367361I consider it to be a hilariously ironic situation when I find myself at the butt of a psyop.We have better psyops faggot.Also, the guns.
>>62367183Well exactly that is what op isnt liking.
>>62367421THEY DO CONTRIBUTE. Their money employs you. You fucking poor pos.
>>62367404Respectfully, that theory is nonsense pragmatic bullcrap.You should consider reading up on Austrain economics.
>>62367434This nigga has 25 fucking replies in this thread alreadywhat is going on
>>62367431Fuck op. Fuck poor people.
>>62367172Gee, I wonder how a country manages that.
>>62367419No, I'm content. I don't need much. I could probably be happy on the street. My plans to improve society is to have people be well educated, and healthy and then to support a system of self sufficiency. A citizens Ideal goal should not be to live with servants. But a citizens Goal should be to live without the need for any assistance at all. That's a strong and healthy state.Ironically by correctly investing in people, you can get them to be their own productive selves. But no, Gotta complain that poor people are lazy, while supporting people who spend months of the year on a fucking yacht. Yeah the poor are the real lazy ones, That so many people have to work hard just to make that one guy able to lie down by some water. Its a joke.
>>62367421They do contribute. See what happens if they pull out all their investments. lmao.
>>62367454> My plans to improve society is to have people be well educated, and healthy and then to support a system of self sufficiency. A citizens Ideal goal should not be to live with servants. But a citizens Goal should be to live without the need for any assistance at all. That's a strong and healthy state.Redditors say this.
>>62367434IF all they contribute is digital ones in zeros, then they provide no real value, If that money could be given to some one else, who could also then do the same job. Then that person has no value.The rich have no real value. The rich are fucking useless. The people who come up with the ideas, design the products and build the products, and sell the products are not the rich.The rich just steal other peoples products by providing "loans" and "Capital" So that they can profit off of people without having to move a finger.But all that capital could still be there and would probably be more easily accessible if there wasn't a dumb fuck greedy lazy rich fuck in the way. Invest in your people. Not the billionaires.
>>62367434>>62367458Well in nature, which is the forest for us, money doesnt exist. And people are still fine. So workers without money can still work for goods, money without workers does nothing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRGzvnWr0MM
>>62367454> Ironically by correctly investing in people, you can get them to be their own productive selves.Fuck them. Not the responsibility of the rich. > But no, Gotta complain that poor people are lazy, while supporting people who spend months of the year on a fucking yacht. Yeah the poor are the real lazy ones, That so many people have to work hard just to make that one guy able to lie down by some water. Its a joke.Fuck you poor fag.
I really hope they do.Because then they would actually have to pay capital gains taxes, and then it would also reveal the sham that is the fake and gay economy.
>>62367387Also nobody is jealos of a fat 40 year old speding all of his day to spam post on /biz/. Your thread from days ago is still up.>>>62342700
>>62367482How much you make a year? Roughly
>>62367480So you hate your nation and your people .And you only care about the rich. You are a golem. You are a robot for the rich. You are pathetic.
>>62367486Cope brokie bitch. I sleep 8 hours and make than you make the whole week.
>>62367180Exactly, Netherlands and nordic countries are horrible places where you have to work forever with no hope of escape because everything is taxed away from you. This also includes high taxes on job creators which mean that the economy is bad and there are no jobs because they can’t invest in the economy that well or keep their businesses competive.
>>62367360USA will never be a socialist country like Cuba or USSR.
>>62367489I don’t give a fuck about the nation. No one that is rich does.
>>62367496I dont work. And 8 hours sleep is too little. Respond to my point to instead of using the "new racism" word that is "cope".
>>62367487I leech off the government, and do work on the side if I want a luxury.your fake and game status dick waving and money and shit like that doesn't move me or matter to me. I refuse to participate in a system. I tried, I went to school, I got training, I waged, I got promoted, but i realized it all. that i fucking hated it all and none of it was fucking worth it.after about 20 years of labor I figured I had done enough for society and now I just neet it up and make my own art. I'm happy and content. So the rich have no power over me.But its sad to see how many people just want to dick wave as if it means anything to have that many jewbucks, most jobs are fake and gay, and more you make at a job the faker and gayer it is. Ironically the people who get paid the least usually do the most actual work and labor. and then they are usually directed by people who are only marginally better paid, but yet these people are like 99% of what keeps the economy going. Everything above that could be replaced with AI with no problems.
So many brokies itt T_T
>>62367516>No one that is rich does.Total bullshit, there are many rich guys funding right wing movements, and rich jews care about Israel.
>>62367451This is heinous, this kind of injustice should bever happen to the blessed job creators.
>>62366814>Past decade has turned me into a borderline socialistWeird because it turned me into an anarcho-capitalist living in a tax haven (EU can suck my bwc)
>>62367516Exactly the point, so don't cry when the nation no longer cares for you. Don't cry when the laws no longer apply.you had your chance, and you blew it. >>62367513Never say never. Time makes fools of us all.
>>62367520>says the fat perma online 40 year old presumably neckbeard
>>62367524That’s different. You meant home country which is usa.Usa isn’t a real country. The west is lost. Either you’re rich or you’re working.
>>62367535Im from the EU. Why are you so incredible jewish tho.
>>62367530So?The rich are comfy in the k shaped economy. The top 10% pay 40% of the taxes.
>>62367519Exactly to ur last point, the mcdonalds worker unironically works harder than the stacy doing bullshit email job for 105k a year but mcdonalds guy gets paid 15 an hourseriously sometimes a mcdonalds can get over 100 cars come in one hour lmaoImagine that, no office wage cuck nigger wfh retard is doing nearly as much work as that 100 car one hour mcdonalds wagie even in the entire week the wfh dude works.. Its literal insanity man good for you for escaping.
>>62367454what if a person with servants was 1000x more productive than a person without? what if those employed servants lives were improved by taking that job? why would the servants even take the job if it didn't benefit them? how do you deal with the natural tendency for there to be a mass of retards who will never be self sufficient even with education and access to information (like you on the internet)
>>62367535>Either you’re rich or you’re working.Funny btw, in my country you can just get welfare, and millions do.
>>62367535>Either you’re rich or you’re working.You raise a good point. I'm tired of all the Class mixing.We need Classist Segregation.All the rich people should be moved onto an island somewhere, And all the workers to another. That way we won't have any class violence.
>>62367538Eu is pathetic.
>>62367419If thats true, why is everyone hyping up China as the new world power? Even Jensen Huang said China could beat US in an AI race. All the big CEOs went there to grovel at Xi Jinping's feet.
>>62367550No, the poors owe the rich now. They fund all the businesses and taxes.
>>62367553This reply is deflecting from my point.
>>62367553EU is hell on earth and will collapse soon, just like USSR did. It is the fate of all socialist countries.
>>62366814>Wants less corruption>Wants socialismPick one.
>>62366915The point is that they're quite socialist relative to our perspective. And it works. The point is to be intelligent about when we want to support particular behaviors even if it costs a lot of money. In fact, we already kind of do - look at police budgets. So we don't even disagree with the approach, we just are making really bad decisions as to what to fund out of the public coffers.
>>62367560Do you fat old neckbeard not even read and understand replies?>>62367478
Btw the spam poster might even be some reddit commie ragebaiting
>>62367517You don’t work but you own nothing.
>>62367566I pick total brokie death
>>62366963>Extortionate credit prices>When the accounts inevitably default, allow professional debt collectors and their lawyers to abuse the courts, employing them essentially as an arm of their collection efforts>Even if you don't owe the money, unless you have proof rock-solid enough that an attorney will take your case on, you're essentially forced to try to negotiate a settlement (bribe)Yeah.
>>62367542First of all the Rich aren't hiring servants, they're laying off workers for AI.Second of all with no one working, who's going to be paying for all that shit.Third. Why do the servants have to toil for the rich persons vision?Why can't the servants pursue their own visions? Why does the rich guy get to be gatekeeper? if the servants want to work for the guy, Then they work as equals together. Why did you even need to frame this question with Caste Hierarchy in mind. Very jeetish.
>>62367541Work =\= pay, dipshitIf a retard kid or fourth worlder can do your job, you a bum ahh loser.
>>62367596> Third. Why do the servants have to toil for the rich persons vision?Then don’t. Another person would be glad at the opportunity to be a servant.
>>62367542>what if a person with servants was 1000x more productive than a person without?Basically impossible. >how do you deal with the natural tendency for there to be a mass of retards who will never be self sufficient even with education and access to information (like you on the internet)Tragedy of the commons has been categorically and objectively disproved.
>>62367601>saying aah unironically off tiktokdamn nigga u really are a teenager like that other guy said kek
>>62367601Most high paying jobs are done by kids and 3rd worlders. Its called nepotism and foriegn countries. So no I don't respect your job of pushing paper around sitting in an airconditioned office as being a real job.Now transporting goods, selling goods, making goods these are real jobs. So to me The Truck driver, The Ice cream vendor, the artist are all infinitely more valuable to both society, culture and the economy.Than the fat fuck who sits around all day pushing paper.
>>62367627Those aren’t “kids” you disingenuous fuck. >nepotismHow come your parents are poor?
>>62367635How come you're retarded? Genetics? You a nigger?
>>62367644>muh nepotismHow come your parents failed?
>>62367541Past jobs by compensation, from least to most.>Safeguarding other people's children>Scooping ice cream>Data entry/reception>Admin assistant (everything the rest of the admin team didn't want to do)>Selling TVs>Selling drugs (manager)>Being on unemployment during the pandemic>Another random office job (nepohire)Everything except the last two was for less than $50k/yr. A lot less.We just have fucked-up priorities.
>>62367601>I'm 40>>62367387>>62367601>ahhhfat teenage pedotroon using teenage slang
>>62367707Broke ahh nibbaqq
>>62367734what's it like living in a single wide trailer in bakersfield with your mom and her boyfriend?
>>62367747Bruh. There are people living in mobile home parks next to a lake saying they live “in a gated lake side community.”Lolsss
>>62367648how have my parents failed? they have plenty of grandkids, I don't have any kids, but I don't give a fuck about my own personal kids, I'm happy enough to support my nephews and nieces, I don't want to burden a child with being a slave to people, when the only reason to have a kid is the shame these slavers put down on me for not having kids.I'm content with myself and with everything I have. How is that not exactly what a parent want for their kids, for their kids to be happy.You're so out of touch man. its honestly sad. You're so desperate to wave your dick about money and status. Just tell us all what you make and i'll make you feel good by giving you a much lower number and claim that its my total net worth and then you can walk away happy. how about that? would that make you happy?
>>62367563I never knew ussr was socialist. Countries past their peak have to go full rich vs poor or socialist. Which one can the country survive on? Obviously the first choice.
>>62367769> they have plenty of grandkids, I don't have any kidsYes, they failed because this was the first and only thing you could mention. >>62367769People aren’t losers because they are poor. People are losers because they cope with being poor in hilarious way.
>>62367799>>62367769This nigga has 50 fucking replies lmao ive never seen shit like this haha is this a bot?
>>62367769Poor people are losers cause they say stupid things. Poor people are losers cause they say winners shouldn’t be winners. Not because they are poor.
>>62367809lmao, and he calls other people losers.
>>62367809he posts this shit 12+ hours a day >>62367334>>62367343
>>62366815if he was smarter he would have tried harder in school or went into a trade that pays over 100k.
>>62367888HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH omg im crying dude what the fuck is wrong with him hahahahahah
>>62367893> or went into a trade that pays over 100k.>tradeNo.
>>62366814If you weren't part of the top 10% in 2025, you're lower class
>>62366814I've had the complete opposite experience.10 years ago, I would have called myself a socialist and the past decade has only made me more convinced that capitalism is the way to go and that socialists are just whiny lazy poorfags who can't be bothered to work or save their own money so they need to spend other people's money.
>>62367098>i make around $150k depending on bonus payoutNice, I make $60k a year, so you should stop exploiting the proletariat and give me $45k, comrade.
>>62367579Wrong
>>62369236>so they need to spend other people's moneyfunny because capitalism is built on credit
>>62369248you've been an advocate of capitalism for a decade and you only make $60k?
>>62369466thats how it always is.. its poor retards simping for capitalism and the billionaires in hopes that they one day can be the billionairesLOL
>>62366814And you think such lobbies and corruption would stop because socialism? Curious.
>>62366814Why do idiots who see corruption in the government want to give the government more power over the economy to fix the corruption?
>>62369466Only because bourgeois capitalist pigs like yourself have been exploiting the proletariat.When are you going to send me that $45k?
>>62369514as soon as we implement a socialist or communist government. you didn't address my point. i started my career at $57k, back in 2018. today i make $150k. what the fuck have you been doing for the last decade?
>>62369514>>62369523also i'm not bourgeoisie. i work for a living.
>>62369452Funny that you think a loan is equivalent to the seizure of the means of production.
>eat the rich>NOOOOOOOO THE RICH RICHclassic
>>62369526hey john galt i need you to respond to this post. >>62369523
>>62369523How are you going to implement communism with that attitude, comrade? You're not much of a communist if you're going to horde all that wealth for yourself.>>62369525You make almost double the household median. You're petite-bourgeoise.
>>62369526>Funny that you think [something I don't think]other people's money = other people's money
>>62369537That is what you think, you're just too stupid to understand the difference.
>>62369535>petite-bourgeoiseagain, i'm a w-2 employee. i am not bourgeois or any variant thereof. i need you to think before you speak. communication should be deliberate and meaningful, not memetic phrasings handed down by your yarmulke wearing masters. (but then, i suppose, if you were capable of thoughtfulness, you probably wouldn't be making $60k a year?)
>>62366837>Socialism means the top .01 controls the country and everyone else gets food rations. .Why are amerimutts always projecting their miserable existence onto others?Your politicians are corrupt and your political institutions are owned by Israel. The Iran war just proved it.The fact that you believe everyone else is the same only proves that amerimutts are braindead brainwashed retards.
>>62369540That's what I thought. Suddenly the communist is extremely defensive of his property and wealth when he has to be the one to give it away. Suddenly you've become the capitalist.
>>62369549its always lies lies and lies from these fuckersthey just want your money and stuff
>>62369535The fuck is petite-burgeoise.And wtf you all mean by bourgeoise in the year 2026?
>>62369553how much do you make a year? let me guess: $60k?
>>62369539other people's money = other people's moneysorry you lost the argument, maybe phrase it differently next time?
>>62369561see >>62369527fuck off hasan
>>62369561>anon who makes 6 figures is envious of people who make 7 and 8 figures, wants their money>he absolutely will not give away his money to people who make 5 figures and has disdain for those in lower income bracketsThis is why nobody takes you commie faggots seriously.
>>62366814As if it’d be any better in a corrupt socialist shithole. You moron. You’d just be even poorer (everyone would) and possibly even persecuted. Look at shithole Europe.
>>62369575>anon who makes 6 figures is envious of people who make 7 and 8 figures, wants their moneymy take home income would likely go down under socialism or communism. are you biologically capable of understanding nuance or vision?
>>62369491If you’re not retarded and you apply yourself and make smart financial decisions, in America, given time, you CAN and WILL be rich. Seethe faggot.
>>62369575>>62369583also the goal extends beyond individual redistribution of wealth, to include fixing market incentives (or disincentives) that harm society. have you ever found it curious, for example, that poisonous slop food with no nutritional value is not only legal, but encouraged to the extent that "real food" might occupy only 10% of the area of a typical grocery store?
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>>62369592That's great but also not socialism or communism lol.
>>62369583Right, which is why you should give it to me. So when can I expect that $45k to arrive in the mail?I'm also not sure why you're being so hateful toward your fellow working class comrades. All of that bragging about how much more you make than me seems like capitalist pig talk to me.
>>62369592>for example, that poisonous slop food with no nutritional value is not only legal, but encouraged to the extent that "real food" might occupy only 10% of the area of a typical grocery store?So don't buy slop then. Nobody's forcing you to eat junk food, but it's there in the store for the people who do buy it.
>>62369600> All of that bragging about how much more you make than me seems like capitalist pig talk to me.you seem to believe that socialism or communism strives for total equality -- but that isn't the case in theory or in practice. today i am your superior. under communism or socialism i would also be your superior, as some sort of a middling bureaucrat.
>>62369609you're paying for it. you're paying for corn subsidies, the cost of slop inventory and slop showroom space is baked in to the cost of anything you buy at a grocery store.
>>62369610>i would also be your superior, as some sort of a middling bureaucratThis is what every communist thinks. I haven't met a single communist yet who will be the one scrubbing toilets after the revolution.
>>62369610>government good>>62369614>government badmake up your mind
>>62369614Fractions of a penny, perhaps, not enough that I'm going to be throwing a temper tantrum like you about how all food except for the stuff you like should be banned.
>>62369617you're likely some kind of a manual laborer. i'm a middle manager with multiple degrees and an active professional license, employed at a fortune 20 company with deep connections to our federal government and all 50 states. people like me are made for middling bureaucrat jobs.>>62369624is that your perception? what is your educational background?
>I dont like corruption therefore if switching to corruption incarnate
>>62369637>with deep connections to our federal governmentso you are responsible for this >>62369614L O L
>>62369634>Fractions of a penny, perhaps, lumpen "thought" hard at work. i command you to look up grocery wholesale vs. retail cost. next, extend this analysis to include public health care costs.
>>62369637>i'm a middle manager with multiple degrees and an active professional license, employed at a fortune 20 company with deep connections to our federal government and all 50 statesI couldn't describe a communist more perfectly if I tried. You're just like every one I've ever interacted with.
>>62369644you make $60k a year. you probably don't interact with people like me.
>>62369640i work in the health insurance industry.
>>62366814A national socialist?
>>62369641>lumpen "thought" hard at workGonna be hard to convince all those proles to overthrow the capitalists when you middle management petite-bourgeoise types can hardly contain your disdain for us. >i command youYou're not my boss or party leader, comrade. >grocery wholesale vs. retail cost. next, extend this analysis to include public health care costsYou look it up for me, pencil pusher. This is what you were made for, right?
>>62369614I understand your confusion, that's because what you talking about is not capitalism, socialism or communism.
>>62369649so you are paying taxes?that's kinda based ngl
>>62366883>the amount of money compensated by employers directly effects what I think about burning down civilization to revert to food totalitarianismYou literally have no idea how to conceptualize or extrapolate beyond 2nd order effects. You have no soul, no animus, and no intelligence.(You) are not a real human beingjust like every other marxist (any and all flavors) automaton>y-yeah but you WORSHIP my strawman GaPetaLiSmNo, I just see an inherently worse system for what it is. You also don't get that nobody chooses 'capital' as the major driver of geopolitics; it just does, and until the world doesn't run on scarcity (physically impossible), it will be that wayStop asking farcical subjective questions as if they are somehow poignant. Every time you out yourself as a fucking idiot
>>62369667a trained dog performing its trick, insisting that a feature seemingly inextricable from capitalism isn't what it appears. can you explain to me how every western capitalist nation's appeal to low skill, third world immigration also isn't true capitalism?
>>62369647I've interacted with people from all walks of life from poorer than me to much richer than you.It's you middle management types that are the most vocal communists and simultaneously the most hateful to everyone outside of your narrow little income bracket. You got that fancy degree, got butthurt that it didn't make you enough to rub shoulders with the actual elites so you hate them, but you also hate the dregs of society because you perceive them to all be beneath you.
>>62369677idc as long as you pay the taxman, comrade
>>62369676incoherent word vomit.>>62369680i went to a state school and i have no family connections. again, you're an ardent supporter of capitalism -- and you make $60k a YEAR?
>>62369590for sure retard that is why everyone is soo rich in this country right
>>62369684>communist>literally can't readHighly appropriate response
>>62369684>you're an ardent supporter of capitalism -- and you make $60k a YEAR?yepAnd you're a butthurt bureaucrat
>>62369680i love the dregs of society they are way more interesting to talk to. I talk to the homeless all the time, i talked to one homeless guy in cvs and he showed me his shank we had a good chat about religion and went our wayway way more interesting than talking to the 150k a year tech niggers or literal doctors i am friends with.
>>62369692uhm... yes? 1 in 10 people are millionaires >>62369209learn to read maybe?
>>62369695you meant to say "apt." what's the last book you've read?
>>62369702> a random twitter screenshot is realityHAHAHAHAAH OMG UR ACTUALLY A BRAINDEAD INBRED HAHAHAHA NO WAY
>>62369702AND ITS FROM KALSHI LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLPLEASE KYS AND STREAM IT BRO IT WOULD DO MAD NUMBERS ON TWITTER NO CAP
>>62369708>>62369710you are mentally unwellseek help
>>62367180pretty white girls would look at me over there in amsterdam, while here in toronto they treat me like a ghost. So that's a +1 for netherlands.
>>62369706No, it was appropriateI chose the word I wanted to use>let me judge you with another arbitrary metricWhat is it with commies and automatically assuming some wide gap in intellect or experience? The misguided ego on display by this one poster is enormous. Your questions are all thinly veiled traps, and its clear they have no point in mind other than to try and get your evangelism in edgewise
>>62369677I will spin your question.So in the socialism/communism immigrants and trading with other countries is forbidden?
>>62369763There's nothing commies hate more than the working class.
this is the stable version of the world chud, whatever comfortable world you grew up in was a farce
>>62370014After seeing the latest shill brigade (which is the EXACT same script EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME) come in to>simply ask questionsWhich actually means>obfuscate their words and denigrate every anon that engages in good faithI can concur this is true
>>62369706You’re a cunt and you’re why people are so viscerally against communism and socialism
>>62366814People ITT talk about socialism as if Europe and China didn't exist. Not even North Korea or Vietnam are dirt poor anymore.
>>62369209Vtter Trvth Nvkeage
>>62371765China is only doing good because it turned to capitalism and europe is a third world shithole.
>>62371868China's also not doing as well as they'd like you to think
>>62366837democratic socialism is what you need
>>62369617We have more than enough filthy class traitors and scum like you for such jobs. Of course the vanguard of the revolution would take their positions at the seats of power
>>62369701Rich fags only care about their respectability and status and other dumb shit. The same way they'll jack themselves off over a 20k wine bottle but wouldn't touch a meth rock while the latter is 100x more pleasurable
>>62372072Okay shitposting aside this is true. I’m a doctor actually and like to go on festivals (that even blue collar people can afford pretty easily) when i want to have fun because that’s where the people who actually know how to have fun are at. Rich people are pretty timid nerds usually. Also the wealthy people who avoid drugs like plague but then drink alcohol continuosly are rather amusing.
Socialism is what created this. Everything is hyperinflating due to malfeasance through the central bank and spending in DC. The most overly costly debt ridden industries (housing, healthcare, education), are the most "socialized", jam packed with government regulation (artificial scarcity) and government subsidy (artificial demand). This creates scorching inflation. They use your meager tax revenues to pay for their immigrant fraudster coony pets. This is all socialism.In a non socialistic paradigm: failures would be allowed to fail, not get bailed out or subsidized. Things would be cheaper. There would be routine competitive churn. There would be free availability of goods/services, including healthcare. You could pick the dirt cheap doctor, median doctor, or expensive doctor, rather than only having expensive doctors. Expensive higher ed wouldn't be a mandate, due to the free availability of IQ/intelligence testing for jobs, you could walk out the door at 18 and start your career without the debt. Housing could be built freely (as it is in places like SC, FL, TX), wouldn't be subsidized to ensure braindead niggers qualify for mortgages, or foreigners, and would be much cheaper.ITS ALL SOCIALISM
>>62366814Socialism is just another meme at this point. If during the past decade you didn't gradually become either an eco-anarchist/anprim or eco-fascist, then you simply don't have a functioning brain.
>>62366862You know those countries have capitalism right?
>>623748011 in 3 workers in norway and sweden are employed by the government.
>>62374599You sound as stupid and idealistic as the commies. Money isn't some magical things that is we just let people do whatever they wanted everything would be okay. Socialism isn't what's going on, but capitalism used to be going on, and we allowed it cronyism and monopolization to take hold
>>62374816Does that mean they're socialistBecause saying that would make you a retard
>>62366814You're on the right track.The average retard here couldn't even make a difference between Allende and Stalin.Tells a lot about the total lack of culture of this sub-society, which is also part of the whole global npc-society.
>>62374827i realize i'm likely communicating with an inferior and underdeveloped mind prone to the usual prolish hyperbolism and literalism -- but you have to understand that "real world" economics isn't trinary in nature. socialist countries typically employ capitalism to some extent. governments could have ownership stakes in private enterprise -- just as they could have no stake, but a strong voice in governance that, in effect, isn't much different from an ownership stake.
>>62366814What kind of socialist? The gay race communist kind or the national kind?
>>62366862They don’t have niggers or share a border with Mexico. That’s the difference.
>>62377146This is not a valid dichotomy. I'm a gay internationalist, but not in a woke CIA op way for example. I resolutely place economic class struggle at the center of my revolutionary praxis and believe the national Marxist-Leninist state is a stepping stone towards eventually world communism
>>62366814>borderline socialistI too believe we should improve society somewhat but can't be fucked for anything other than casual conversations with communists or socialists who care more about appearances, blind morality or theory of labor than P/Ls and not kneecapping businesses. And commies can't help but let me know they'd love to punch a fascist like me; of course they can't put it together and when they do they never want to go hands on with a pocket full of hollowpoints. Capitalists will always insist you can just work harder, socialists will always insist that finding the money for programs isn't important as every political party overspends. Society is a bit fucked and the only way to heal it is to let it get much worse, much faster. Retards can argue about the top unprofitable stock of the week, which makes sense because this isn't a politics board. I'm trying to only invest in hated yet essential sectors so I can make enough money to be the statist I despise so much yet I'll claim its different this time when the guns aren't pointed at me, as me and mine are the only wannabe despots interested in more than just personal enrichment. I love liberty and the free market but without a boot of outwardly grey and internally highly organized moral character ready to stomp on everything from the corrupt in power to the idiot jeets littering then liberty is a body to be abused and raped & and the market a means of enslavement and lifelong coercion. Its a temporary existence as is given the free market got its shit pushed in by hybrid models with a heavy vertical slice of central planning. As dangerous as it has been historically if gilded age 2.0 is not cleansed it can never compete again. China beat us on many metrics but look solely at electrification for capitalisms embarrassing inability to create nuclear, or other fuel, power plants in response to market needs. This is both a political and social issue that cannot be fixed by voting red or blue.
>>62366982>Subsidizing things isn't communismWe'll its at the very least a step away from lassieze faire capitalism, otherwise the market would just let it die. That doesn't make it inherently wrong if it overlaps with communism or SD/NS. Capitalists would rather lie to themselves about the nature of such programs perhaps because such programs are often abused. We find ourselves in a real jam though because capitalism going full bore now, killing people with AI via joblessness and homelessness, threatens the social order and will lead to reddit tier communists getting into power starvation and all. Yet we cannot afford to expand entitlements and social programs as we are at the cusp of hyperinflation to avoid default. Even if we had the money expansion of programs is unpopular to all but individual beneficiaries due to wealth disparity and fraud. Hard to imagine how it doesn't result in violence, those suggesting to just pay poors to keep them from rioting do not produce enough actual value to provide it. If they did then they'd have no issue providing the same thing through employment yet its not possible with current leadership, organization and overhead.
>>62377516The problem with communism is the dependence on people to do what's right. It's the same problem as capitalism. So why go all in on one ideology and act like things will go well? Acknowledge the flaw is human greed and control, try to protect the majority of the population, and adjust as needed. Not on an ideological basis, but on human needs.It's asinine to insist upon one true model. Programs could be rolled out in different cities and studied as well, which we already do. Results get phone and the program loses funding though. Ask me how I know that. Hint: it was related to DOD, not even humanitarianism> We can't afford to expand entitlementsThat's ignorant. We waste more money on trying to stop people from getting entitlements + inflated contracting to buddies.
